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desijat

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You must be hearing a lot about a presentation that was shown to Modi by Dr. Mahmood, here is that presentation : http://www.zakatindia.org/Files/S. Zafar Mahmood talk - Ahmedabad June 29 2013.pdf

At the outset let me congratulate Modi to be brave enough to lend a ear to Dr. Mahmood and community but also weird enough to not to respond correctly. You can listen to the detailed discussion on report here: http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-buck-stops-here/narendra-modi-s-image-makeover/281398?hp

The presentation raises a few very fundamental question on the ideology of BJP which comes nowhere close to secular, and raises a lot many questions on Modi too. For your consumption, and thoughts.

Something that stood out the most to me on BJPs website: "call to Muslims to adopt Hindu names & Muslim women to wear mangal sutra" and "Modi not implementing already existing scholarships for Muslims which are 75% center funded, ironically MP and Chattisgarh does"
 
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vikas bhai, who is this Syed Jafar Mehmood

desijat said:
You must be hearing a lot about a presentation that was shown to Modi by Dr. Mahmood, here is that presentation : http://www.zakatindia.org/Files/S. Zafar Mahmood talk - Ahmedabad June 29 2013.pdf

At the outset let me congratulate Modi to be brave enough to lend a ear to Dr. Mahmood and community but also weird enough to not to respond correctly. You can listen to the detailed discussion on report here: http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-buck-stops-here/narendra-modi-s-image-makeover/281398?hp

The presentation raises a few very fundamental question on the ideology of BJP which comes nowhere close to secular, and raises a lot many questions on Modi too. For your consumption, and thoughts.

Something that stood out the most to me on BJPs website: "call to Muslims to adopt Hindu names & Muslim women to wear mangal sutra" and "Modi not implementing already existing scholarships for Muslims which are 75% center funded, ironically MP and Chattisgarh does"
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desijat said:
He is a learned islamist and founder of Zakar: http://www.zakat.org/
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Do u agree with following facts given by this Zakat about India

India
"As the world’s second most populous nation, India’s fast growing economy is often seen as an example for other developing countries to follow. Yet this country of 1.2 billion people still has at least 440 million people living in poverty, with 240 million Indians described as chronically hungry. Crushing poverty and malnutrition, and limited or nonexistent health care remain harsh realities for millions of Indians.

Other pressing issues facing the country include: insufficient educational opportunities for the region’s poor, environmental degradation and pollution, an impending public health crisis with the epidemic rise of non-communicable diseases such as diabetes, and India’s increasing vulnerability to natural disasters, especially earthquakes, seasonal monsoons, droughts, cyclones and landslides.

Muslims make up approximately thirteen percent of India’s population and remain amongst the poorest community in the country. They have not fared well within the traditional Indian caste system, which marginalizes them religiously, socially and economically by limiting their access to quality education and employment"
 
sanjeev_balyan said:
Do u agree with following facts given by this Zakat about India

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For the time being i wouldnt care about that, it will take this topic to discussing Zakat which isnt important, but look at more at the questions raised by him on BJP and their blue eye boy Modi on secularism and his ignorance towards the community for which he has presented cosiderable facts.
 
खान्ग्रेस क्यूँ एक सेक्युलर पार्टी नहीं हे ? क्यों खोंग्रेस मुस्लिम लीग की तरह काम कर रही हे ? क्यूँ गांधी परिवार एक मुस्लिम परिवार होते हुए हिन्दू/इसाई होने का ढोंग किये हुए हे ?
 
desijat said:
For the time being i wouldnt care about that, it will take this topic to discussing Zakat which isnt important, but look at more at the questions raised by him on BJP and their blue eye boy Modi on secularism and his ignorance towards the community for which he has presented cosiderable facts.
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देश में अकाल ,बेरोजगारी ,बाढ़ ,भार्स्थाचार ,मंहगाई आदि अनेकों मुद्दे हैं जो बिना जाती /धर्म के भेदभाव के सब को तकलीफ देते हैं ,आप के लिए व् आपकी पार्टी के लिए वे कोई मुद्दे क्यों नहीं हैं । खान्ग्रेस के राज में आज तक छोटे बड़े 33000 दंगे हुए हैं ,भारत भर में । उनका हिसाब कोण देगा ? मोदी के राज में एक दंगा हुआ ,वो भी ट्रेन में राम भक्तों को फूंकने के कारण । उसके जिम्मेदार मुसलमान ही हुए । फिर इस देश में सभी दंगों के लिए खान्ग्रेस जिम्मेदार क्यों नहीं हे । देश के विभाजन के समय 30 लाख लोग मारे गए थे ,उसके लिए नेहरु जिम्मेदार क्यों नहीं हे ?
 
ravinderjeet said:
देश में अकाल ,बेरोजगारी ,बाढ़ ,भार्स्थाचार ,मंहगाई आदि अनेकों मुद्दे हैं जो बिना जाती /धर्म के भेदभाव के सब को तकलीफ देते हैं ,आप के लिए व् आपकी पार्टी के लिए वे कोई मुद्दे क्यों नहीं हैं । खान्ग्रेस के राज में आज तक छोटे बड़े 33000 दंगे हुए हैं ,भारत भर में । उनका हिसाब कोण देगा ? मोदी के राज में एक दंगा हुआ ,वो भी ट्रेन में राम भक्तों को फूंकने के कारण । उसके जिम्मेदार मुसलमान ही हुए । फिर इस देश में सभी दंगों के लिए खान्ग्रेस जिम्मेदार क्यों नहीं हे । देश के विभाजन के समय 30 लाख लोग मारे गए थे ,उसके लिए नेहरु जिम्मेदार क्यों नहीं हे ?
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एक बार अरविन्द केजरीवाल से पत्रकार बात कर रहा था - उसने उससे भतेरे सवाल पूछे पालिसी, गरीबी, चोरी, नेतागिरी इत्यादि को ले कर पर केजरीवाल का जवाब एक ही था- लोकपाल ला कर

आप की भी भाषा कुछ वैसी ही है, भाजपा को ले कर कुछ भी सवाल उठा लो जवाब मैं सिर्फ ये ही मिलता है - कांग्रेस ने ये किया कांग्रेस ने वो किया तो हम क्यूँ नहीं कर सकते, क्या तुक्क है इस बात का ये मेरी समझ के परे है


आप से कोई सीधा सवाल पुचो तो आप टाल जाते है ये कह कर की हर बात का जवाब जरुरी नहीं, आप मुस्सल्मानो को छोडिये जाटो की सोचिये, भाजपा से बड़ी जाट विरोधी पार्टी आज तक तो कोई दिखी नहीं, आरक्षण की खुल के खिलाफत करी, धीरे धीरे सरे जाट नेताओ को हटाया पार्टी से फिर भी आप उसी का डंका बजाते है, क्यूँ?
 
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ravinderjeet said:
देश में अकाल ,बेरोजगारी ,बाढ़ ,भार्स्थाचार ,मंहगाई आदि अनेकों मुद्दे हैं जो बिना जाती /धर्म के भेदभाव के सब को तकलीफ देते हैं ,आप के लिए व् आपकी पार्टी के लिए वे कोई मुद्दे क्यों नहीं हैं ।?
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घोडा घास से यारी करेगा तो खायेगा क्या?? :)
 
desijat said:
For the time being i wouldnt care about that, it will take this topic to discussing Zakat which isnt important, but look at more at the questions raised by him on BJP and their blue eye boy Modi on secularism and his ignorance towards the community for which he has presented cosiderable facts.
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u dont care what zakat said about India.
but u do care , what this Zakat said about BJP / Modi,
 
sanjeev_balyan said:
Do u agree with following facts given by this Zakat about India

India
"As the world’s second most populous nation, India’s fast growing economy is often seen as an example for other developing countries to follow. Yet this country of 1.2 billion people still has at least 440 million people living in poverty, with 240 million Indians described as chronically hungry. Crushing poverty and malnutrition, and limited or nonexistent health care remain harsh realities for millions of Indians.

Other pressing issues facing the country include: insufficient educational opportunities for the region’s poor, environmental degradation and pollution, an impending public health crisis with the epidemic rise of non-communicable diseases such as diabetes, and India’s increasing vulnerability to natural disasters, especially earthquakes, seasonal monsoons, droughts, cyclones and landslides.

Muslims make up approximately thirteen percent of India’s population and remain amongst the poorest community in the country. They have not fared well within the traditional Indian caste system, which marginalizes them religiously, socially and economically by limiting their access to quality education and employment"
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Do you disagree with these facts? Which one? Arent these the problems facing our country?
 
sanjeev_balyan said:
Muslims make up approximately thirteen percent of India’s population and remain amongst the poorest community in the country. They have not fared well within the traditional Indian caste system, which marginalizes them religiously, socially and economically by limiting their access to quality education and employment"
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That is correct. Does not matter which party got the mandate, Muslims have been marginalized and disadvantaged.
 
BJP must be scrutinized as well. People in BJP have not come from a different country or planet.

They are all same. I agree that people have got fed up with Congress mess. But BJP has done no different.

Exceptions are there but in general, same corruption is BJP run states as well.

Even if BJP gets the mandate in coming election would not mean that people will be free of problems and corruption.
 
vicky84 said:
BJP must be scrutinized as well. People in BJP have not come from a different country or planet.

They are all same. I agree that people have got fed up with Congress mess. But BJP has done no different.

Exceptions are there but in general, same corruption is BJP run states as well.

Even if BJP gets the mandate in coming election would not mean that people will be free of problems and corruption.
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Yeh desi ko khush karne ke liye likha hai! :) ..vikasse eibb to khush ho jaa mere yaar
 
Rightly said.

If Congress is the problem, BJP is a bigger one


vicky84 said:
BJP must be scrutinized as well. People in BJP have not come from a different country or planet.

They are all same. I agree that people have got fed up with Congress mess. But BJP has done no different.

Exceptions are there but in general, same corruption is BJP run states as well.

Even if BJP gets the mandate in coming election would not mean that people will be free of problems and corruption.
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vicky84 said:
That is correct. Does not matter which party got the mandate, Muslims have been marginalized and disadvantaged.
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vicky bhai, i dont carry any anti muslim thoughts. all religions are same.
but, just pay a visit to kerala, specially north kerala. u will be surprised.
secondly, they themselves are responsible. nobody has marginalized them on any front.

vikas bhai aapki defination bahut badhiya hai,
agar koi congress p comment kare to BJP ka aadmi
matlab ya to congress jindabad, nahi to Modi ka agent
vaise aap BJP/ modi k bare me congress se bhi jayada jankari rakhte hai,
hats off to you
 
swaich said:
Do you disagree with these facts? Which one? Arent these the problems facing our country?
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I do agree but who is responsible.
we should discuss on these points including muslim marginalization.

secondly, who is this jaffar mehmud. should we discuss on him.
vikas bhai finds every dam thing , where BJP/Modi are criticized by Googling on net.
 
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