Ch. Chautala in NJ

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dahiyarules said:
Chalo Vijay Saab! aap haryane ke baare mein vishesh suchna denaa jaari keejeeye. We have all our years for you. Waiting for that "sectret information" that we "sitting far and away" do not have.
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Well, Bhai Sumit i think you take it in a wrong way. i didn't said that i have some secret information.
I just have objection about the stupid language used by that Jatland member. We may like or dislike any person but using abusive language against any person is not appreciated.
Commenting on the physical disablities in such a harsh manner. What character is shows ?
 
This is jatland and that's how he is addressed in villages(Langaada)...more for his deeds rather than his physical deformities...

n ...try to correct the whole community next time when u think tht jaton kih language is harsh


N "u" need not worry about my career...(carrier) and neither my character as u can't do anything about it...

Aur haan Col. sir sey bol dey kih chautala kih charan dhuli bhijwa denge "Mastak abhishek key liye".
 
vijay said:
And i admire you for ur stupid language about a person who didn't harm you by any means...
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My grand father use to name every new born 'Kaatda' or 'Baachhda' as Chautala...and you can guess why easily

As far as language goes aap ne bhi kami to nahin chhodi Vijay bhai

Chautala (eeb langadu kahunga to chho uthega bhaiana ke) Vancouver mein aaya tha eeb...Akali atankwaadian gelian hande tha Surrey mein...je kise te bhujhi bhi ho te apne hariyane aliana ke bare mein
 
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rohittewatia said:
This is jatland and that's how he is addressed in villages(Langaada)...more for his deeds rather than his physical deformities...

n ...try to correct the whole community next time when u think tht jaton kih language is harsh


N "u" need not worry about my career...(carrier) and neither my character as u can't do anything about it...

Aur haan Col. sir sey bol dey kih chautala kih charan dhuli bhijwa denge "Mastak abhishek key liye".
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Well, if you have been residing in any villege in Haryana, i should have never commented on ur language. But, you are in an another country and people around you like to know about our community. yeah, you can say that you speak with them so decently and leave a good image of jats.
But you can use any words at jatland just becoz they can tolerate your words.
I suspect that being harsh in language is the real identity of a Jat.
If u think so then conversation is over.
 
chhillar said:
My grand father use to name every new born 'Kaatda' or 'Baachhda' as Chautala...and you can guess why easily

As far as language goes aap ne bhi kami to nahin chhodi Vijay bhai

Chautala (eeb langadu kahunga to chho uthega bhaiana ke) Vancouver mein aaya tha eeb...Akali atankwaadian gelian hande tha Surrey mein...je kise te bhujhi bhi ho te apne hariyane aliana ke bare mein
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Amit Bhai,
Whenever a cow or buffello used to give birth, it is always a gud sign and a happy event and they remember someone at that point that's the importance of that person. I am not praising anybody here.
About Vancouver, Indian don't know who is who in the west, and they just met the persons for whom their host suggests.
 
vijay said:
Amit Bhai,
Whenever a cow or buffello used to give birth, it is always a gud sign and a happy event and they remember someone at that point that's the importance of that person. I am not praising anybody here.
About Vancouver, Indian don't know who is who in the west, and they just met the persons for whom their host suggests.
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Bhai Vijay, aap to West ki bhi poori expertise le re ho gamman ke saath...sara bera se ek they meet whoever their hosts suggest...Chautala ki har baat ko beena gane defend karna zaroori he ke...mera Nana kaatde ka naam chautala kyun dharya karta ya mere te bhoojh le ne bhai, tukke marn ki ke zaroorat se mere ladoo...there is huge similiarty in Chutala and Kaatda...both are dangars and with the time grow yet bigger dangars

All in good spirit my friend!!!
 
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chhillar said:
Bhai Vijay, aap to West ki bhi poori expertise le re ho gamman ke saath...sara bera se ek they meet whoever their hosts suggest...Chautala ki har baat ko beena gane defend karna zaroori he ke...mera Nana kaatde ka naam chautala kyun dharya karta ya mere te bhoojh le ne bhai, tukke marn ki ke zaroorat se mere ladoo...there is huge similiarty in Chutala and Kaatda...both are dangars and with the time grow yet bigger dangars

All in good spirit my friend!!!
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Amit Bhai, i don't want to defend anybody. Mr. Chautala is a politician as there are other politicians in Haryana. As simple as that.
What your respected Nana ji do that is his personal thinking and maybe my relative do that for some politicians too. That's not the point. There may be even 100% similarity in some polititician with some creatures. Who is going to decide that ? you can say someone is great and i can say he is a bastard ? Who is the judge ??????

If you try to concentrate my original comment, that is so simple that you may like or dislike any person but should not use the abusive language for anybody.
 
The biggest tragedy of india is people have short term memory. They forget all the atrocities committed on them after every five years.

He is not only responsible for corruption, he even has the blood of farmers on his hands. N who in haryana is not aware of his son's doings.

http://news.indiainfo.com/2005/01/23/2301killings.html

Maybe lot of people have good information about the Meham kaand.

I have no feelings with what so ever of the politicians unless n untill he has something good to give to the society.

N i do not think that such people are worthy of respect just because he was the CM before or may become CM in next 5-10 years.
 
why such a long talk about a person whos character ,whose truthfullness, whose integrity, whose behaviour or whtever work attitude .. is not liked by most in haryana (thats why he was thrown out)
why we make such people heros rathar then giving limelight to some good sports star or good student of our area

thats wht media is doing & we are also a mass media
why we making a thief , currupt, cheap person a hero

just throw them off ,dont give them publicity of any sort,, good or bad
they are not competent ..n we are not short of dustbins just... discard them

m not saying specifically to one politician, for that matter any politician who is a antisocial person or incompetent to carry out the duty should be ignored & discarded

lets spread a word that now jats also want good people to lead them

rathar then giving anybody advantage of emotion or greed or any sort of descrimination ,,other then ability & then let the people get rid of wrong people by way of voting

cribbing n debating is of no use in this field

its high time for jats to open their eyes beyond

can u think that noida has formed & people their developed long back
other side rewari aheer area has developed then why not jat belt
the development which has occured is in non jat belt ,where punjabis, aheer bhais are also there

living std of jats have not that much changed then others (people getting money by selling their land is a diff story lets not go that side)
how many good schools in the area how many good playgrounds ???how many good working hospitals or any govt fascility which is of expected std in the region ????

because i feel all jat leaders feel that if we will develop our village people n jats come along with outside world

who will vote them because then we will ask for qualities rathar then just a mass sympathy or stupid political drama before each election

thats wht happens in BIHAR n haryana is catching up only thing saving us is nearness to ncr not our chosen leaders

or whenever a good deal of any business company or MnC from outside comes these leaders ask for big sum as middle men in development of other jat bhais so we are at same level because of these greedy what u call them .......(middlemen)

manytimes i have heard a good deal by some big industrial group for a jat area is turned down or postponed because the then politician asked for bribe

plz pardon me if m wrong in any thing i said above, but i feel that way n all comments or suggestion will be taken by me as fresh knowledge
regards
 
Its not talk about a person but the reality of the politicians of India. Except few rare exceptions there is no one who is bot corrupt and a gunda..be it congress, Bjp or any other regional party.

They all are similar in character and deeds...we cannot seprate them. no one cares for the public what they care for is their vote bank.

And who is responsible for all this mess and corruption created by politicians....we all....we the public..brcause its we who choose them...its we who tolerate the atrocities...its we who offer bribes...We all are responsible for all this.


We want our work to be done first of all even if we are the last in the line.

A very simple scene all of us have seen...When the FATAk at a railway crossing is closed the road is clogged from both sides and no one can cross easily even when the fatak is open...Its all about me and me first

I have seen people offering bribe without bieng demanded. Last few months I was in my village in Hisar district...and there was very erratic water supply sometime after one day sometime after two days and sometime after three days..people used to give free alcohal to the person who used to take care of water supply so that he can release water for more time. And whenever he did not get alcohal he will not release water.
If he can get free alcohal to drink then why would he pay for it...he will just delay the suply and will get what he need. This is how we start spoiling the system...in the end its the public who is responsible for all this mess.

We can raise voice and can stop it if not in day then definetly in few months.

Discussing the politicians alone is useless as its we who are ignoring our rights and they are enjoying it.

Shamsher
 
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I think people get the leaders they deserve bcoz its the people whom the leader represents. And only way to elect good people is that the voter is educated.
 
We all are Missing the Point

I think we all are missing the point.
Firstly, we need not use abusive language on this forum or any other forum, for that dilutes the discussion. As you all can see, here the discussion has shifted to language rather than the issue that Sumit Dahiya has raised.

Firstly, I would like to thank Sumit for expressing his feelings for me. Sumit you can vouch for me I am not in the business of "Extortion and Corruption". Further the views you have expressed about me, has put further pressure on me to follow my own beliefs that I have been doing for years.

I don't feel bad when some one criticizes me. I had mentioned earlier on this forum "Criticism if it hurts, was well deserved" Kabir has also said
"Nindak niyre rakhiye, Aangan kuti chavay,
Bin Sabun Pani bina, Nirmal Kare subhav."

Now the point of hosting a corrupt politician ( as the majority opinion looks like) Firstly, when some one from your state is visiting here, he might be related to some one, or may be a friend of some one. The politician may be corrupt, but all you know some one may have been hosting the Ex CM of Haryana. Again a lot can be said about it in different ways, as we perceive an individual.

I have hosted a party for Mr. Hooda also. I like what those young MP's spoke and the way they tackled the questions. If, I compare the two political figures, I personally feel, that Mr. Chautala was more articulate, to the point and crisp. This could be due to his long political career as compared to some one who is just beginning his career.

I think, the discussion should be what Mr. Chautala did or did not do for Haryana during his tenure as a CM. Could he have done better. If he did do well, then how come he lost the elections? These are the core issues and I am sure they can be discussed using the decent language.
 
Col Sahab Namaskar,

I think Chautala has definetly done something for farmers or villagers be it any cast. He has done a lot of work in villages during his term. Most of the roads were paved afresh and the village streets were also made Pakki many places with cemented material. I think the work done during his term in villages is more than many previous govts together.

He gave funds directly to Panchayats so that those at block level donot eat into those funds. He also raised more voice for SYL and tried more than what congress govt is doing presently. He tried to give as much electricity to villages as much he could and definetly more than the present govt. He always wanted the minimum support price to be raised more than what the congress is doing currently.

for villages he has done a lot in last five years but still lost the election. probably due to his arrogant son as public say today.

And in the end I am not a Chautala supporter but ignoring what he did will be unjustice.
 
chautala in nj

sabhi jat bhaiyon ko ram ram

main virender bhai sahab se puri tereh sehmat hoon

chautala ek pure politician hai aise hi nahi vo haryana ka chief minister bana kuch to khubia bhi hai par ye baat bhi manane layak hai ki unhone sirf apna pet bhara hai aur kisi se koi matlab nahi

main bhi unka supporter raha hoon lekin sirf isliye ki unhone upne aap ko jaato ka hiteshi bataya par at last unhone jaton ke liye mere khayal se kuch bhi nahi kiya jo bhi kiya apne liye kiya

is visay par jitni bhi baat ki jaye kam hai
 
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rohittewatia said:
Kisano kah kitna bhala usane kiyah hai kabhi gaon maiin jaakar puunch loh...langaade kih dusri taang bhi baarabar nah kar dein kisan taabh bolna...
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oo tewatiyee.... terey taai ekk bey pehlyaan bhi bataaii thii.. ley ibb fer bata dun sun.... SHAKAL AACHI NA HO TEY BAAT SUTHRI KAR LENNI CHAHAHIYEN... par tu nahi maaneyy.... jissi shakal ussii ee baat hain teri 5 mhiney(months) baad bhi... koi na par koshish karta rehh.. ek din to suthri baat kehgaa....
 
bhai saab....

virenpelpa said:
sabhi jat bhaiyon ko ram ram

main virender bhai sahab se puri tereh sehmat hoon

chautala ek pure politician hai aise hi nahi vo haryana ka chief minister bana kuch to khubia bhi hai par ye baat bhi manane layak hai ki unhone sirf apna pet bhara hai aur kisi se koi matlab nahi

main bhi unka supporter raha hoon lekin sirf isliye ki unhone upne aap ko jaato ka hiteshi bataya par at last unhone jaton ke liye mere khayal se kuch bhi nahi kiya jo bhi kiya apne liye kiya

is visay par jitni bhi baat ki jaye kam hai
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bhai viren...

aap ney bina sochey ye baat likh di yahan shayad key jaaton key liye chautala saab ney kuch nahi kiya... ekk baar fir dekh loo key kya likha aapney.... aap aisey pehley jaat ho jisney ye statement de di... aisa to ye kaangressi bhi maantey hain key jaataan key kaam jisssey chautala saab kar gey ussey koi na kar sakta.....

aap shayad kisi ki bhakaii main aa gey...... hehe ;)
 
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