Ch: Om Prakash Chautala a Great Visionary

[ratheetheraist]

datt jaa tu...........................

meri bhi katti bhinn ki bhin jo dr saab khawe sein........

datt ja tuu bhinn ki bhinn aallee.............dekhya naa hukare bharann aalaa........tu dekh te le pehlyaan kiski bhinn ki bhinn maare saii............nain saab aap nu bataiyoo ek be akk kadd kadd aaii thii call appki HPSC main.....???? arr mharree ee saath ke itne balak select ho ge .......i mentioned in one my my earlier posts...........ap ke baat ney lee kee geet gaante rahoo akk pisse liye pisse liyee nokriiyaan kee.............parr ya bhai saab kati illogical baat kar dii.........aarr chaloo maan liyee pisse liyee......liyee te jaataan pey arr laaee bhii nddii ney JAAT ...........parr auran ney shar pey betha liyoo thamm saareyy joo naa thamne boojhen arr naa thaare pissyaan ney........

arr pisse lele ke je chautala saab ne selection karnee thee te nu bata doo buss ke yee baniyee laallee..........arr yee JHANGII...........dudeja ,, kukhreja typee........ye jaatan te faltu dhann daabe bethee sain..........fer yee kyun naa laagee.......HCS.......ulti baatan ki ratt laaee rahoo tham saaree..............

arr laaoo sharat.......ibb na je ye jhangi pangii kitte kee naa laagen nokri te bata diyoo............aaj kall chaal ryaa saii merit ka pangaa.........arr manne beraa saii merit main kee gooll khillawengee apne aale jat raam........chahe bechare mehnat karte hon parr unn baniyaan arr jhangiyaan te te rehwen sain paachee ee.........

fer tonte rahiyoo listtan main naam jaja chandigarh.............

 

[pardeephooda]

Bhai Rathee

In baaton main dum nahin hai bhai. Ke Baat kabliyat se bharosa uuth liya jaaton ki. Itna bhoonda passimist na bane aur sab ne ek laathi na haanke, ib ve din na rahe. Jat are doing extra ordinary well. Jatland itself contains a big chunk(just for e.g). Aur bhai jisne khud pe e bharosa nahin uska to ram bhi rukhala koni.



arr laaoo sharat.......ibb na je ye jhangi pangii kitte kee naa laagen nokri te bata diyoo............aaj kall chaal ryaa saii merit ka pangaa.........arr manne beraa saii merit main kee gooll khillawengee apne aale jat raam........chahe bechare mehnat karte hon parr unn baniyaan arr jhangiyaan te te rehwen sain paachee ee.........

fer tonte rahiyoo listtan main naam jaja chandigarh.............[/QUOTE]

 

[ratheetheraist]

Oops........

Bhai Rathee

In baaton main dum nahin hai bhai. Ke Baat kabliyat se bharosa uuth liya jaaton ki. Itna bhoonda passimist na bane aur sab ne ek laathi na haanke, ib ve din na rahe. Jat are doing extra ordinary well. Jatland itself contains a big chunk(just for e.g). Aur bhai jisne khud pe e bharosa nahin uska to ram bhi rukhala koni.

BHAI MAIN PESSIMISTIC AADMI NAHI HUN JAMA BHIIIII........................jaanyaa........ye to sachaaii ki ek jhalak hi thii mere dubbii............arr pessimistic aap mujhe jab kehte jab main nu likhta akk jat kadde bhi naa aa saktee merit main............bt i never used this term..........

bhai saab humney to jaaton ko mehnat karte dekha haii........batata hun dubara shayad its needful here......bhai sab UNIVERSITY main jitne bhii seniors theeyy saare ke saare gt placed .........and by seeing the results of those HPSC selections only whole of haryan guys were so busy studing tht u can never see a haryana guy roaming around in the city.......they have become really serious nd carrier concious ........nd its jus because the results were just merit based nd gave it full to the deserving guys...............ghana kehte ho te saare bhaiyaan ki list bhej don aap dhoree..............students feel encouraged nd specially JATS........

merit main to shayad aur bhii aaee hongee leking JATS gt the edge thts wt we luv abt tht grt man........hwo is filled with JATISM......

chalo bhaii saab i wont say nything more abt all his feeling abt jats......bt time will tell everything and i tell u one thing few of the frnds who r saing ill of chautala saab,,,,,,,will themselves turn their views and their views will match our views too...........nyways..........time to see........

 

[pardeephooda]

Bhai Rupender

Please go through this URL.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060403/main2.htm

yeh haal to wahan hai jahan pe pani ki ghani dikkat na sai. Haryana ke farmers financially punjab ke farmers se badhiya haalat main nahin hain.
haryana ke farmers ke mil siti na martey bhai.

o bhai hooda saab,,,,,,,,,, aaj haryana mein khaan ke daaney sirf uss ghaar mein naa sein ,,,,,,,,,,, jarey rooj shaam ney GHOONT maar key baddey sein,,,,,,,,,,, unn dhoreey ,,,,,,, GHOONT maran key raapiyey to sein,,, lakin bijjli ke bill bharaan key naa sein,,,,,,,,,,

 

[sukhbirsingh]

datt ja tuu bhinn ki bhinn aallee.............dekhya )



Bhai rathi tum to pakka chautala ka supporter lagta hai well, as u asked for my interview, I went in 2003 and 2004 two time for the post of veterinarian, and the example which keshav dahiya has given is also right, In addition i also want to add that i have seen this money channel very closely how it operates, So please dont tell me who is clean. In that there was sodeybaji of educated persons, iliterate people come and ask marry my daughter we will arrange job for u, was that chautala politics. Now i dont care about that job, and that chautala.

 

[keshavdahiya]

Bhai rathi tum to pakka chautala ka supporter lagta hai well, as u asked for my interview, I went in 2003 and 2004 two time for the post of veterinarian, and the example which keshav dahiya has given is also right, In addition i also want to add that i have seen this money channel very closely how it operates, So please dont tell me who is clean. In that there was sodeybaji of educated persons, iliterate people come and ask marry my daughter we will arrange job for u, was that chautala politics. Now i dont care about that job, and that chautala.

jo aapki meri bhi wahe dr saab...bhinn ki bhinn.....lekin iinke kaan pe jun na renge jib tahin chatala er uski aulaad iska kemme ilaaz na kartte....
koi fayeda na se iss behes ka.......jo sach hai woh to hai hi.....
baaki aapne te bera hi se yeh saaare rathee ek jisse hoya karen bina sir pair ki baat karya karen.......killkki

baaki aaankh miich ke BHINN ki BHINN......hahahhaa

 

[downtoearth]

kimmey baat paaleey na paardi

I think Chautala is most corrupt person of indian Well till now i found only those person supporter of chautala who needs job without hard wrok.

bhai saab sukhbiir,,,,,, jaun sey,,,, 70,70 saal key budhey ,,,, party gel laag rahey sein,,,,,,,,woo bhi naukri ki RARAK mein gell laag rahey sein key ? ,,,

 

[vijay]

First of all what is said by jit that we should compare Bansi lal's and Hooda's government By Chautala's government. Farnkly to say Chautala have the edge over them by too much margin at evry front.

Jit what you know about Haryana's development in Chautala's government ?????

Aur bhin ki bhin karan walo, put up here some real facts but don't try your pre minded thoughts about any person. Have some courage to say right about right and wrong about wrong. If somebody did good work you should appreciate that without any partiality.

Regarding the winning election it's another case. People always forget the good work done by any person because of their personal profits. Do you remember how T. N Sheshan was respected when he implemented the Election regulation on the Indian politician but he lost election too. What that mean he was not the person who came up with power of election commision. So people it's politics.

We are not discussing politics and the political parties but discussing about a man and before that a jat.

You guys feels proud of Malika Sherawat, Randeep Hooda and some other Jats. What they are doing for Jat community that you feel proud on them and have a hate for the person who did a lot about Jat community.

Where is the dignity ????

I think people are doing politics here, too, without doing healthy discussion about a real Jat.

 

[nirajsihag]

Bhai Kesu,
kati sahi baat kahi hai $#it alli hehehhehe
bhai logo kyun seeng uljha rehe ho nu hi!
why dont u ppl wait n watch hooda's govt & then compare it with Chautala's n Bansilal's work! doodh ka doodh paani ka paani ho jaaga jib!!

Are oh Sarpanchon....bhaiyon lagana ish thread ke woh Desi Tala!!
bhai server pe load badh reha hai....talla laga ke chaabi nehar mein fenk de!!

Rock on
Jit

Bhai cooljat tu mana nuyu bata de tana yu thread ke kean lag raya sa jo isti tala lagwana chawa sa, bhai jaha tak server ki bat hai please get some facts cleared about the memory used by these documents yu jatland hai koi banyaland koni hum kanjosi na bartya karte.

Bhai kade Jaipur chod ke kade haryana ke gama mai aa ke puch loga na chutala sarkar mai kis tara kam hoya karte, ye to gama ala sarpanch paisa kaha ge warna chutala shaab ne to pisa ke boriya ke mu khol rakhe dhe.



Pehle T.V pe UPTRON television te add aya karti jis ka mission statement tha

TIME WILL TELL THE DIFFERENCE

yu HOODA ali sarkar ka kam to tham na TiME ea bata wa ga

 

[rkumar]

First of all what is said by jit that we should compare Bansi lal's and Hooda's government By Chautala's government. Farnkly to say Chautala have the edge over them by too much margin at evry front.

Jit what you know about Haryana's development in Chautala's government ?????

Aur bhin ki bhin karan walo, put up here some real facts but don't try your pre minded thoughts about any person. Have some courage to say right about right and wrong about wrong. If somebody did good work you should appreciate that without any partiality.

Regarding the winning election it's another case. People always forget the good work done by any person because of their personal profits. Do you remember how T. N Sheshan was respected when he implemented the Election regulation on the Indian politician but he lost election too. What that mean he was not the person who came up with power of election commision. So people it's politics.

We are not discussing politics and the political parties but discussing about a man and before that a jat.

You guys feels proud of Malika Sherawat, Randeep Hooda and some other Jats. What they are doing for Jat community that you feel pround on them and have a hate for the person who did a lot about Jat community.

Where is the dignity ????

I think people are doing politics here, too, without doing healthy discussion about a real Jat.

Vijay,

A person is judged by both his good and bad deeds. Good deeds alone can not take a person too far in life. As you would appreciate, one bad deed can wipe out 100 good deeds of a person. Every human being has a share of good and bad deeds. Its the degree of badness which always overrides over anything good. I do not wish to get into it any further as deeds of individuals are matter of subjective analysis. Its the majority view about the goodness or badness of deeds which matters and that is what all elections are about I suppose. I just wish to highlight my views by quoting few examples;

1. Hitler was admired by lots of people. He also did a lot to make Germany great world power. Does that classify him to be a great human being?

2. Duryodhan was admired by great many people during the period and this is why large number of kings sided with him. However, histroy does not judge him to be a good person.

Its wrong to say that people vote purely based upon the good work of a leader.Mr Bansi Lal was penalised for his misdeeds during emergency and I suppose Chautala ji also has been penalised for some of his misdeeds which overweighed in public mind much more than his good deeds.

Trust me, I am not at all politically biased in my opinion, even though I have my personal preferences.

Rajendra

 

[vijay]

Vijay,

A person is judged by both his good and bad deeds. Good deeds alone can not take a person too far in life. As you would appreciate, one bad deed can wipe out 100 good deeds of a person. Every human being has a share of good and bad deeds. Its the degree of badness which always overrides over anything good. I do not wish to get into it any further as deeds of individuals are matter of subjective analysis. Its the majority view about the goodness or badness of deeds which matters and that is what all elections are about I suppose. I just wish to highlight my views by quoting few examples;

1. Hitler was admired by lots of people. He also did a lot to make Germany great world power. Does that classify him to be a great human being?

2. Duryodhan was admired by great many people during the period and this is why large number of kings sided with him. However, histroy does not judge him to be a good person.

Its wrong to say that people vote purely based upon the good work of a leader. Bansi Lala was penalised for his misdeeds during emergency and I suppose Chautala ji also has been penalised for some of his misdeeds which overweighed in public mind much more than his good deeds.

Trust me, I am not at all political biased in my opinion, even though I have my personal preferences.

Rajendra

So RK JI,


You agree that one or two faults by Chautala has hide all his good work. Ok i agree maybe he had done some bad descisions but we are here to discuss that things but not to vote. Just a honest thoughts about a person not politician and above all a jat.

About Hitler, If Hitler were an Indian and a jat, i would certainly be proud of him as he had the vision of life and the killing instict like a jat to won the world. But it's only western media that is dominating the world so the basic thought is that Hitler was defeated by USA but the real fact is thet Hitler was demolished by Soviet Union. Same here as Chautala was defeated in election by some other reasons but the media is too outragious about his deeds.

Hypocracy is ruling the world nowdays.

 

[rkumar]

So RK JI,


You agree that one or two faults by Chautala has hide all his good work. Ok i agree maybe he had done some bad descisions but we are here to discuss that things but not to vote. Just a honest thoughts about a person not politician and above all a jat.

About Hitler, If Hitler were an Indian and a jat, i would certainly be proud of him as he had the vision of life and the killing instict like a jat to won the world. But it's only western media that is dominating the world so the basic thought is that Hitler was defeated by USA but the real fact is thet Hitler was demolished by Soviet Union. Same here as Chautala was defeated in election by some other reasons but the media is too outragious about his deeds.

Hypocracy is ruling the world nowdays.

Vijay,

Jats never vote based upon media hype. Had media been responsible for Jat votes, Ch. Charan Singh would never have won any election. Media in general is not kind to any Jat, be it Chautala, Charan Singh, Sahab Singh, you or me. Jat leaders have been created by Jats and not by anyone else. Think coolly, why Chautala JI has been rejected by very Jats who supported him? Where did he hurt Jat pride that Jats went all against him? Jats rarely vote for the work. Had that been the reason, Ch. Charan Singh would not have won a single election. There is a difference in making mistake and committing bad deeds. Charan Singh also must have had his share of mistakes, but no one will say that he committed any misdeeds. Righly or wrongly, a large number of Jats believe that Chautala ji committed many misdeeds and this is why they voted him out of power. Who are we to question public wisdom. Public has its own ways of rendering punishment. As one of my professor used to say; observations can not be questioned, only interpretations can vary. You and me might extend any interpretation,but the observation remains that public voted him out of power. Overlooking public feelings is not going to change truth irresptive of how much we argue our sides.

Rajendra

 

[vijay]

Vijay,

Jats never vote based upon media hype. Had media been responsible for Jat votes, Ch. Charan Singh would never have won any election. Media in general is not kind to any Jat, be it Chautala, Charan Singh, Sahab Singh, you or me. Jat leaders have been created by Jats and not by anyone else. Think coolly, why Chautala JI has been rejected by very Jats who supported him? Where did he hurt Jat pride that Jats went all against him? Jats rarely vote for the work. Had that been the reason, Ch. Charan Singh would not have won a single election. There is a difference in making mistake and committing bad deeds. Charan Singh also must have had his share of mistakes, but no one will say that he committed any misdeeds. Righly or wrongly, a large number of Jats believe that Chautala ji committed many misdeeds and this is why they voted him out of power. Who are we to question public wisdom. Public has its own ways of rendering punishment. As one of my professor used to say; observations can not be questioned, only interpretations can vary. You and me might extend any interpretation,but the observation remains that public voted him out of power. Overlooking public feelings is not going to change truth irresptive of how much we argue our sides.

Rajendra

Agreed RK ji, whatever you said, public is God for every politician but you are still not getting my point. I am not in favour of any politician but i am discussing about a jat, a true jat by heart. No politics please !

Did any politician ever said proudly that they are Jat and proud to be a jat except Ch Devi Lal and Mr. O. P. Chautala.

Anybody Charan Singh, Bansi lal, Hooda, Surjewala who else ... ?


Who is real Jat and who is mere a politician ??????????

 

[rkumar]

Agreed RK ji, whatever you said, public is God for every politician but you are still not getting my point. I am not in favour of any politician but i am discussing about a jat, a true jat by heart. No politics please !

Did any politician ever said proudly that they are Jat and proud to be a jat except Ch Devi Lal and Mr. O. P. Chautala.

Anybody Charan Singh, Bansi lal, Hooda, Surjewala who else ... ?


Who is real Jat and who is mere a politician ??????????

Bhai Vijay, the taste of pudding is in eating. If Ch. Devi Lal and Mr Chautala said that they are proud Jats and still the people of Haryana did not accept that, one has to ask questions to onself. Was it that Jats took their assertions as hollow and defeated Ch. Devi Lal 3-4 times? Honestly, even I don't know how public mind works. Its a matter of research indeed. I would leave it here now Vijay. Hope I did not hurt any of your feelings while putting my views.

Rajendra

 

[devdahiya]

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.Anybody who tries to be bigger than his/her boots will have to bite the dust and this is a universal truth.No human being can be God and no one is invincible on this planet.As i said some where in this thread.......We all do our best,the thing we know well.I think we must get over this Hero worshiping and let our politicians do their job.....I think they all know better than us as to what are they suppose to do.

 

[vijay]

Bhai Vijay, the taste of pudding is in eating. If Ch. Devi Lal and Mr Chautala said that they are proud Jats and still the people of Haryana did not accept that, one has to ask questions to onself. Was it that Jats took their assertions as hollow and defeated Ch. Devi Lal 3-4 times? Honestly, even I don't know how public mind works. Its a matter of research indeed. I would leave it here now Vijay. Hope I did not hurt any of your feelings while putting my views.

Rajendra

Well RK Ji,

You didn'r hurt me by any means. As i already said politics may is anything but not an humanity and in politics peoples just want to harvest their own benefits. It's dirty business nowdays.

But my point of view is still not politics. I am sorry that you still not getting my point that i am talking about a person and a jat and you are trying to answer about a politician.

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[keshavdahiya]

Aur bhin ki bhin karan walo, put up here some real facts but don't try your pre minded thoughts about any person. Have some courage to say right about right and wrong about wrong.

Mr Singh its quite obvious from the discussion so far that its all about getting in to $%#@ for nuffin gud but.........this PUTING facts is work of FICTION & purely the personal point of view of who so ever is active in the discussion without any prejudice.......its baseless

Regarding the winning election it's another case..........

how can you say winning election is another case nevertheless its the absolute way of how the people think about there political leaders.......a BIG ques. again POPS up alwayz as to why Devilal was defeated three cosequtive times ...u know from where he lost.......and the way the whole family thot it wud be one nite fight and knocked on every door in the villages to ask for mercy.......but invain

Where is the dignity ????

are you asking for dignity and espeacially from a tyrant like chautala.....who didnt even cared about the MLAs.........of the respactive contituencies..........and with his son looted what belonged to the people.......billu ka mafia is quite famous till date...

I think people are doing politics here, too, without doing healthy discussion about a real Jat.

Of course its getting political thread here as we are comparing the way 2-3 governments are working. I think you are acting imature here and getting to serious about the discussion......if you are really so concerned then I think you shud do something at the grass root level and there is no way here that you can ...........any thing discussed here on WEB wont be fruitful in any way.....I think you understand these simple words and wud sleep in peace..........

 

[vijay]

Mr Singh its quite obvious from the discussion so far that its all about getting in to $%#@ for nuffin gud but.........this PUTING facts is work of FICTION & purely the personal point of view of who so ever is active in the discussion without any prejudice.......its baseless




how can you say winning election is another case nevertheless its the absolute way of how the people think about there political leaders.......a BIG ques. again POPS up alwayz as to why Devilal was defeated three cosequtive times ...u know from where he lost.......and the way the whole family thot it wud be one nite fight and knocked on every door in the villages to ask for mercy.......but invain


are you asking for dignity and espeacially from a tyrant like chautala.....who didnt even cared about the MLAs.........of the respactive contituencies..........and with his son looted what belonged to the people.......billu ka mafia is quite famous till date...



Of course its getting political thread here as we are comparing the way 2-3 governments are working. I think you are acting imature here and getting to serious about the discussion......if you are really so concerned then I think you shud do something at the grass root level and there is no way here that you can ...........any thing discussed here on WEB wont be fruitful in any way.....I think you understand these simple words and wud sleep in peace..........

I always sleep in peace Keshu,

Well i don't want to comment about the people where from Devi lal lost elections as in my point of views people are same everywhere at least in Haryana. But there maybe some regional preferences too and it's everywhere so not an issue.

But keshu, why didn't you read that i am not discussing about a politician but discussing about a jat.

No politics please as i hate politics. If you want to discuss politics only i am not into it. You can do politics residing in Germany but can't evaluate a person without seeing the hard realities at here in Haryana.

Well i didn't expect such theory from an intellectual person like you.

Things changes here every moment. You should be aware of that.

Now i really think that i should not discuss here about any person as people are doing politics.

REALLY.

 

[keshavdahiya]

No politics please as i hate politics. If you want to discuss politics only i am not into it. You can do politics residing in Germany but can't evaluate a person without seeing the hard realities at here in Haryana.

Well i didn't expect such theory from an intellectual person like you.

Things changes here every moment. You should be aware of that.

Now i really think that i should not discuss here about any person as people are doing politics.

REALLY.

dear Vijay its not about politics from me either thats why i never m so keen on the heated discussions here........not my peace of cake either......

secondly me saying anything about some politician or any ground reallity from (so far away) here does not mean that i m not aware of the situation back there.......i have been the part of all the system a few months back only and i m quite aware of the lacks......does not matter any way...

otherwise participating in this discussion does not mean that you are talking politics either.....but its all about going "yaya wawa" about chautalaa and his contemporaries & not about any JAT.......there are enough JATS who we can site examples and discuss in a positive way.....
the pain resides in here.......as to way people are talking about a person who is so disgusting to be a HUMAN being than a JAT......
ANY way this wont end just like that.......continue......

mera kaam se killkki paddna.....why shud i get involved in such a discussion and waste time.....there is enough to do else where........

cheers brothers and sisters

 

[vijay]

dear Vijay its not about politics from me either thats why i never m so keen on the heated discussions here........not my peace of cake either......

secondly me saying anything about some politician or any ground reallity from (so far away) here does not mean that i m not aware of the situation back there.......i have been the part of all the system a few months back only and i m quite aware of the lacks......does not matter any way...

otherwise participating in this discussion does not mean that you are talking politics either.....but its all about going "yaya wawa" about chautalaa and his contemporaries & not about any JAT.......there are enough JATS who we can site examples and discuss in a positive way.....
the pain resides in here.......as to way people are talking about a person who is so disgusting to be a HUMAN being than a JAT......
ANY way this wont end just like that.......continue......

mera kaam se killkki paddna.....why shud i get involved in such a discussion and waste time.....there is enough to do else where........

cheers brothers and sisters

You are right Keshu,

We may agree to disagree at any point but don't want to get involved in politics by any means.

So cheers bro !!!!!!!!!!!!!