Challenges and Chances before AAP

[phoolkumar]

main ye to nahin kahunga ki purani parties ne zero se hi kuchh nahin kiya farmer ke liye, bahuton ne bahut kuchh kiya bhi hai, lekin fir bhi farmer ki haalat kuen mein gire hue insaan jaisi hai, aur isiliye maine poochha hai ki us kisaan ko kuen se nikaalne ke liye kya formula hai AAP waalon ke paas ya fir wo ban jayegi ki kuen se nikaalne ka ankaha laalach dikha, "KHAAI" mein dhakel gaye........


doosron ke paas achchi thi ya buri thi, but policies to unke paas rahi hain, but AAP waalon ke paas to wo bhi nahin aur naa hi koi bata raha agar kuchh hai bhi to

Bhai Phool Kumar - Bahut badhiya mudda uthaaya aap ne.... Lekin ek baat aur - "देश की कृषि और किसान को ले के Congress aur BJP ke paas jo नीति hain (Ya neeti hone ka daawa karte hain) unse desh ke Kisaan ko sahi maayne mein kya mila yeh bhi hamein poochhna chahiye !!!" Also, you should ask this question to INLD, SP, BSP, TDP, RJD, JDU etc etc as well ! ......Otherwise, it will be unfair to ask this Question only from AAP.



...............aur haan, before you call me AAP supporter, let me tell you.........agar AAP Kisaan hit mein niti nahi banaati to ek bhi vote nahi dena chahiye inko !!!

 

[fateh]

An "EX-income tax commissioner" can surely be AAM AADMI if he is honest and has not made any money by bribe means !!!!

Dear Anil are you sure that he was honest (A bania+income tax), he was certainly a class one officer, does class one officer comes in the categori of aam admi, please consider the point practically, what salary, previllages,perks, power he has enjoyed, I am sure he is part of first 15% top population of India, Brother, I do not deny the credit of this movement to him but we cannot say that he is an aam admi

 

[anilsangwan]

Sir - For me AAM aadmi is someone who does not earn money using illegal means and who stays down to earth always! Someone who represent masses and is from masses. Someone who does not show off his status by any means. AAM aadmi does not mean someone who doesnt have money !!!

Dear Anil are you sure that he was honest (A bania+income tax), he was certainly a class one officer, does class officer come in the categori of aam admi, please consider the point practically, what salary, previllages,perks, power he has enjoyed, I am sure he is part of first 15% top population of India, Brother, I do not deny the credit of this movement to him but we cannot say that he is an aam admi

 

[phoolkumar]

क्या अंतर है दोनों में बोलो ........... गरीब लोग "दारु और कम्बल " के लिए वोट बेच देते है ..... मगर पढ़े लिखे लोग ... "पानी और बिजली" के लिए वोट बेच देते है!

क्या अंतर है दोनों में बोलो...... 1977 के जन आन्दोलन के समुन्द्र-मंथन में लालू, मुलायम और पासवान निकले थे और अब ये निकले हैं....... क्या अंतर है दोनों में बोलो?

ज़रा संभल के ओ वोट के धनी! - Phool Kumar Malik

 

[swaich]

क्या अंतर है दोनों में बोलो ........... गरीब लोग "दारु और कम्बल " के लिए वोट बेच देते है ..... मगर पढ़े लिखे लोग ... "पानी और बिजली" के लिए वोट बेच देते है!

क्या अंतर है दोनों में बोलो...... 1977 के जन आन्दोलन के समुन्द्र-मंथन में लालू, मुलायम और पासवान निकले थे और अब ये निकले हैं....... क्या अंतर है दोनों में बोलो?

ज़रा संभल के ओ वोट के धनी! - Phool Kumar Malik

Kambal to theek hai par Daru ka Pani aur Bijli se comparison? Kavi mahoday, ek ayyashi ki cheez hai aur baki dono zarrorat. Ab yeh mat kehna ki paani aur bijli bhi ayyashi ki cheezein hain.

Aur isi tarah, desh ki khatir, bhagwaan kare aapka doosra comparison bhi galat sidh ho

 

[phoolkumar]

Daaru ko hata bhi lo to "Note" rakh lo, aakhir gareeb ke liye "NOTE" bhi utne hi jaroori hote hain jitna ki "Kambal" ya fir kahi ki ek padhe-likhe ke liye "Bijli aur Paani ke Bill"......aakhir bill chukata to wo bhi notes ke jariye hi hai...... so uske bill kam hue to usko paise mile na......fark sirf itna hai ki jinke yahaan bijli-paani nahin unko direct de diye jaate hain vote ke time aur jinke yahaan hain, unko bijli-paani kam karne ke bahaane diye jaate hain.......

comparison to shabit ho chuka hai Jaspreet, yakeen nahi hota to yah video dekh lijiye:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qxI_xdOUuY

Kambal to theek hai par Daru ka Pani aur Bijli se comparison? Kavi mahoday, ek ayyashi ki cheez hai aur baki dono zarrorat. Ab yeh mat kehna ki paani aur bijli bhi ayyashi ki cheezein hain.

Aur isi tarah, desh ki khatir, bhagwaan kare aapka doosra comparison bhi galat sidh ho

 

[rkumar]

Daaru ko hata bhi lo to "Note" rakh lo, aakhir gareeb ke liye "NOTE" bhi utne hi jaroori hote hain jitna ki "Kambal" ya fir kahi ki ek padhe-likhe ke liye "Bijli aur Paani ke Bill"......aakhir bill chukata to wo bhi notes ke jariye hi hai...... so uske bill kam hue to usko paise mile na......fark sirf itna hai ki jinke yahaan bijli-paani nahin unko direct de diye jaate hain vote ke time aur jinke yahaan hain, unko bijli-paani kam karne ke bahaane diye jaate hain.......

comparison to shabit ho chuka hai Jaspreet, yakeen nahi hota to yah video dekh lijiye:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qxI_xdOUuY

There is no doubt that Kejriwal is on back foot on this issue. However, this alone won't be enough to convince that BJP is any better than congress. As debates are getting more and more intense, truth about all parties is coming in open. Its sickening to watch drawing room politicians of congress and BJP on TV. Even if AAP is 10% lesser corrupt than congress and BJP and can dismantle these entrenched political dynasties, people will celebrate. Arrogance among politicians has gone to the level that;

1. DSP level officers assist them to put on their shoes.
2. Head of the department level doctors are routinely called home even for their cold and cough like ailments.

List of office misuse is really long and one can write books.

RK^2

 

[drrajpalsingh]

There is no doubt that Kejriwal is on back foot on this issue. However, this alone won't be enough to convince that BJP is any better than congress. As debates are getting more and more intense, truth about all parties is coming in open. Its sickening to watch drawing room politicians of congress and BJP on TV. Even if AAP is 10% lesser corrupt than congress and BJP and can dismantle these entrenched political dynasties, people will celebrate. Arrogance among politicians has gone to the level that;

1. DSP level officers assist them to put on their shoes.
2. Head of the department level doctors are routinely called home even for their cold and cough like ailments.

List of office misuse is really long and one can write books.

RK^2

People have given a strong message through AAP that entrenched political system will not do; they want change and change for better.

Which soever party succeeds in convincing the masses to provide a cleaner, transparent, all inclusive growth based system of governance in internal affairs and affirms strong foreign policy in external affairs would garner the maximum support of the electorate in the forthcoming Lok Sabha General Elections.

If statements and acts of people like Prashant Bhushan, Minister Rakhi and Kumar Vishwas as well as the speech of the LG in Delhi ASSEMBLY which is silent on corruption issue are any indicators, then the AAM Party has not been able to formulate comprehensive internal and foreign policy so far. The only slogan raising is not likely to carry the party on a long journey to power to govern India. They have to provide a solid roadmap to achieve that goal.

 

[virj]

I don't think AAP will be able to repeat its success in Lok Sabha.

There are a few things which we should note that the party doesn't have any ideology. It is a movement and the votes are result of public anger which is momentary. They don't have a party stand on issues. Its members speak different language.

In my opinion they should just focus on Delhi at the moment and prove themselves there. If they fail in Lok Sabha it will hard for them to win in Delhi again in case there are re-elections.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

You have rightly pointed out about the need of clear cut programme and policy for a political party to win the battle of ballots at the national level.

The different voices of a handful enthusiasts cannot be allowed to spoil the fair name of party which is determined to demolish other well trenched political parties hold on political horizon of India.

 

[anilsangwan]

Before asking AAP, you should ask this Q to a party which is ruling India for last 9 years and will come to you again for votes ( will you vote for them on this point? ). Kejriwal or AAP or Modi have not got any chance in last 9 years, so asking this question to them is overkill.....!!! Baaki teri marji s...!


Again, you are saying others had policies... Tell me the benefit of those policies. Kehne ko to paper pe 1000 policies bana dega koi. Kya kya implement hui aur unka kyaa faayda mila? And AAP is yet to come with its national menefesto. They never ruled in the past, so they can have menefesto and not policies. Just wait for them to come back. Uss se pehle andhi aalochana theek nahi !!

main ye to nahin kahunga ki purani parties ne zero se hi kuchh nahin kiya farmer ke liye, bahuton ne bahut kuchh kiya bhi hai, lekin fir bhi farmer ki haalat kuen mein gire hue insaan jaisi hai, aur isiliye maine poochha hai ki us kisaan ko kuen se nikaalne ke liye kya formula hai AAP waalon ke paas ya fir wo ban jayegi ki kuen se nikaalne ka ankaha laalach dikha, "KHAAI" mein dhakel gaye........


doosron ke paas achchi thi ya buri thi, but policies to unke paas rahi hain, but AAP waalon ke paas to wo bhi nahin aur naa hi koi bata raha agar kuchh hai bhi to

 

[fateh]

I personally feel that AAP IS NOT SOMETHING great and has not won the election but people have shown their dissatisfaction towards old parties specially congress and BJP, In my view both these parties are almost same and feel after some time AAP will follow their seniors, 99% politicians are same difference may be of language, acting, method of corruption, etc. As far as we are concern, (farmer and fauji) both these parties have done nothing and not likely to do positive in future also, we have to see the AAP

 

[fateh]

Sir - For me AAM aadmi is someone who does not earn money using illegal means and who stays down to earth always! Someone who represent masses and is from masses. Someone who does not show off his status by any means. AAM aadmi does not mean someone who doesnt have money !!!

Brother I think we differ on definition of AAM AADMI, THUS WE BOTH ARE RIGHT

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Brother I think we differ on definition of AAM AADMI, THUS WE BOTH ARE RIGHT

So both of you are right; then two minor questions:

What according to you is the definition of AAM AADMI, Sir ?

Do you think the political party AAP represents AAM AADMI in Delhi?

Thanks and regards

 

[prikshit]

There is a difference in work which is done to gain praise and one which is done is right spirit. What is happening around is visible to everyone. What is worrying a common man is that, if the keep supporting the newcomers like this in one aspect it is a good sign, but we can't rule out wrong people elected on their tickets and once elections are done kaun me kaun tum. Abhi to all parties are on toes as LS elections are around. Congress ho, BJP ho ya AAP ho sab apna rajneetik fayda dekh rhi hai. Janta to abhi bhi wahi "Babba ji ka Thullu" hi mil rha hai.

 

[swaich]

I don't think AAP will be able to repeat its success in Lok Sabha.

There are a few things which we should note that the party doesn't have any ideology. It is a movement and the votes are result of public anger which is momentary. They don't have a party stand on issues. Its members speak different language.

In my opinion they should just focus on Delhi at the moment and prove themselves there. If they fail in Lok Sabha it will hard for them to win in Delhi again in case there are re-elections.

Couldn't agree more and in fact these were precisely my thoughts in the first few pages of this thread.

AAP shouldn't hurry. They want to encash this mass wave of support by covering as many seats as possible. But by doing that they also risk making mistakes by choosing wrong candidates or going ill-prepared. National stage is different from state elections. You need clear views from a party on foreign, defense, economic etc policies. Just harping on corruption alone wouldn't do. If they don't come put with clear cut policies on foreign, defense, economic etc, everyone in AAP leadership will sing their own tunes and like the Prashant Bhushan example, they will be forced to go on the back foot.

So get your act together, frame clear-cut policies, speak in one voice on all important issues and first of all deliver at the first step before climbing to the next pedestal.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Couldn't agree more and in fact these were precisely my thoughts in the first few pages of this thread.

AAP shouldn't hurry. They want to encash this mass wave of support by covering as many seats as possible. But by doing that they also risk making mistakes by choosing wrong candidates or going ill-prepared. National stage is different from state elections. You need clear views from a party on foreign, defense, economic etc policies. Just harping on corruption alone wouldn't do. If they don't come put with clear cut policies on foreign, defense, economic etc, everyone in AAP leadership will sing their own tunes and like the Prashant Bhushan example, they will be forced to go on the back foot.

So get your act together, frame clear-cut policies, speak in one voice on all important issues and first of all deliver at the first step before climbing to the next pedestal.

Well summed up the need for the AAP to put its house in order first and then to venture further in the national affairs !

 

[drrajpalsingh]

And Lo another controversy ! Now it is the turn of Delhi Law and Justice Minister, Mr. Bharati .

He wanted to take a meeting of the Judges and on failure of the concerned Secretary to hold such meeting the minister created such an ugly situation that the Secretary had to seek transfer from his present post !!!

 

[fateh]

So both of you are right; then two minor questions:

What according to you is the definition of AAM AADMI, Sir ?

Do you think the political party AAP represents AAM AADMI in Delhi?

Thanks and regards

Dr sahab, I do not think that AAP REPRESENTS AAM AADMI IN REAL SENSE it is only drama which they acted very well, except few businessman and princely families, rest all politicians were aam aadmi before coming to politics, similarly, waite and see after five years (if this aap govt stays) they all will become khass aadmi, another side, all politicians, big business people, senior officials including senior employees of pvt companies, judges, contractors of religion do not come in the list of aam aadmi in India

 

[fateh]

And Lo another controversy ! Now it is the turn of Delhi Law and Justice Minister, Mr. Bharati .

He wanted to take a meeting of the Judges and on failure of the concerned Secretary to hold such meeting the minister created such an ugly situation that the Secretary had to seek transfer from his present post !!!

Dr sahab, yesterday evening on ajtak, it was shown A VERY SENIOR OFFICER OF Delhi JAL Board which is directly under kejariwal, settled rs40 to 50 thousand per month for approving water, from a builder