Challenges and Chances before AAP

[vicky84]

Excellent article on AAP vision and policies:

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/policypuzzles/entry/will-aap-s-socialism-affect-gen-next


Will AAP's socialism affect Gen-Next?


When seeds of socialism are sown, it is future generations that suffer the weeds.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Watch this and decide who is right and who is wrong. More and more such video footages are going to surface...

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RK^2

Seems discussion in progress on Civil liberties and how to deal with one-up-man-ship !

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Dr. Saheb, I think you haven't seen the video link by Sh. VP Singh Ji! The Local people had so fed up with the police inaction that they become charged up and agitated to the extent that probably forced them to behave inappropriately! But so far there is no video evidence to show that! It is only the version of Ugandan women who probably were engaged in illegal activities! If so, than invoking the provisions of crime against women was in haste and hence inappropriate!

Cheers!

Deswal ji,

None is against the cause of the agitation but the time chosen and method applied by the AAP smacks of haste and hence reprehensible and inappropriate .

Thanks and regards

 

[drrajpalsingh]

सोमनाथ भारती: पहले करते थे स्पैम मेल, 5 हजार डॉलर चुकाकर छुड़ाई थी जान


http://www.bhaskar.com/article-ht/NAT-somnath-bharti-was-a-spammer-know-about-him-4502050-NOR.html


[FONT=Bhaskar_WEB_Intro_Test]दिल्ली के मुख्यमंत्री अरविंद केजरीवाल अपने धरने और उनकी सरकार के मंत्री सोमनाथ भारती कानून को अपने हाथ में लेने की वजह से आलोचना झेल रहे हैं। लेकिन भले ही केजरीवाल ने अपने धरने का मकसद दिल्ली पुलिस को अपने मातहत लाए जाने की कोशिश बताया था, लेकिन सभी जानते हैं कि धरने की बुनियाद में भी सोमनाथ भारती ही थे। इस समय सोमनाथ भारती आम आदमी पार्टी के सबसे बड़े 'सिरदर्द' साबित हो रहे हैं। सोमनाथ भारती ने दिल्ली के खिड़की एक्सटेंशन इलाके में पुलिस के कामकाज में दखल देने की कोशिश की, जिसे कैमरे पर दुनिया ने देखा। इस मामले में सोमनाथ की मुश्किलें बढ़ती जा रही हैं। आज उन्हें दोपहर में महिला आयोग के सामने पेश होना है। लेकिन सोमनाथ भारती का कानून में दखल देने का यह पहला मामला नहीं है। इससे पहले वे कानून तोड़ने के लिए भी आलोचना के घेरे में रहे हैं। मीडिया में सामने आईं रिपोर्ट में कहा गया है कि सोमनाथ भारती वकील बनने से पहले स्पैम मेल का काम करते थे। वहीं वकील के तौर पर बैंक के फ्रॉड के केस में कोर्ट ने उन्हें सुबूतों के साथ छेड़छाड़ करने पर फटकार लगाई थी।[/FONT]

[FONT=Bhaskar_WEB_Intro_Test]दुनिया के टॉप 200 स्पैम मेल करने वालों में एक रहे हैं भारती![/FONT]

[FONT=Bhaskar_WEB_Intro_Test]सोमनाथ भारती की पहचान आम आदमी पार्टी के नेता के अलावा एक वकील की रही है। लेकिन भारती के बारे में एक सनसनीखेज बात सामने आई है कि वकालत करने से पहले भारती स्पैम मेल का बदनाम धंधा भी करते थे। स्पैमिंग पर नजर रखने वाली वेबसाइट स्पैमहॉज.ऑआरजी ने 2005 में स्पैम करने वालों की एक लिस्ट जारी की थी। उस लिस्ट में भारती के अलावा दो अन्य भारतीय भी शामिल थे। 2005 में ही रोकसो (रजिस्टर ऑफ नोन स्पैमिंग ऑपरेशंस) की लिस्ट में 200 स्पैम करने वालों को शामिल किया गया था जो दुनिया भर में भेजे जाने वाले 80 फीसदी स्पैम के लिए जिम्मेदार थे। इस लिस्ट में भारती को स्पैम करने वाले के तौर पर शामिल किया गया था। भारती के बारे में कहा गया था कि वे टॉपसाइट्स एलएलसी के लिए काम करते थे। यही नहीं, भारती पर स्पैमिंग के मामले में कैलिफोर्निया की एक अदालत में केस भी चला था। भारती ने कोर्ट के बाहर समझौता कर 5 हजार अमेरिकी डॉलर चुकाकर उस मुकदमे का निपटारा करवाया था। बताया जाता है कि उन दिनों भारती दिल्ली से एक आईटी कंपनी मेजेन सॉल्यूशंस (Madgen Solutions) चलाते थे। लेकिन यह साफ नहीं है कि वह कंपनी क्या काम करती थी।[/FONT]

It would be interesting to know if the news item published in the 'Bhaskar' has got any comments from AAP Spokespersons or the person mentioned in it.

 

[spdeshwal]

Deswal ji,

None is against the cause of the agitation but the time chosen and method applied by the AAP smacks of haste and hence reprehensible and inappropriate .

Thanks and regards

But the public has approved it Dr. saheb! Look at the after effects of the Dharna that has improved the position of AAP!
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/f...ejriwal-s-dharna-shows-support-for-aap-475155



Cheers!

 

[ssgoyat]

Watch this and decide who is right and who is wrong. More and more such video footages are going to surface...


RK^2

Likkam like.. Jakhar's comment

"haan to karle baat.. karle"

 

[krishdel]

Changes are not only the change in corruption or money. Arvind AAP Party social composition is very bad and dangerous for nation. Please watch the TV carefully , u will see 90% spokesperson from Pandey,Mishra, Bania . Do you think this type of composition is good for nation? Do you think Delhi only has Pandey,Mishra & Bania as the community.
True is that they think rest are Idiot.
Corruption can be in many forms -
Suppose an IAS sitting in interview Board in Delhi hates the Haryanavi touch of language, then he is not going to select that person whatever good that candidate may be,
this is not corruption in money but intention is wrong.
This will be more dangerous than corruption.
We have faced these challenges in Delhi and Noida Govt. & Private offices.
Do not expect a Bihari or Poorbia to select a Haryanvi. 10% may be ok.
A south indian can do right to you.
Social Composition of an Party matters a lot for the people.

It seems everyone is commenting the view of opposite parties.
think neutrally, everybody wants changes, bt it takes time to make same changes and fulfill the right changes.
Not even a single person including me can bring as much changes as soon as People want frm AAP.
AS far as abt Mr. KEJRIVAL , he is nt a superman, he can promise , to make changes for aam aadmi, but may be unable to do same due to as much pressures and leg pulling etc. Etc.

THINK EVEN IF HE WANTS POLITICS, BT ALL ISSUES ARE IN FAVOUR OF COMMON MAN'S NEEDS.




I challenge all of u can comment but cant do a single thing in politics

if u hv to choose from corrupts(all political) partiesŕ
what will b your choice?
more corrupt
corrupt
or which may either mismanaged or nt hv much vision(as an ordinary person) or new comer

 

[krishdel]

You are right without proof we should not raid the foreigner premises. Where are video proof foreigners before raid. AAP told people to take Video of corrupted person and then take action. Then why AAP not taken the video coverage before raid.

shameful behaviour with foreign nationals...2 ugandan ladies were beaten and stopped in CAB for 3 hours by fuddunath bharti and his topi-wale -gundays....and on tests they were found drug free....ek minster ki harqat....agar AK main sharam hai to iss fuddo ko bahar fenk dena chaiye party se...yeh sarkaar chala rahe hai ya gundagardi kar rahe hai....yeh to UP ki SP ke gunday..aur mumbai main MNS ke gunday ke bhi baap nikle...

agar foreign main indians ke saath kuch thota hai...to ethics , principles, woman-respect ke baate karne wale bahut fuduk fudak ke padte hai india main.....iss JL ke saare morals ke tehkedaar kaha gaye..eibbb..... US waale sahi karte hai inke saath airport pe....

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/b...bharti-s-raid-472271?pfrom=home-lateststories

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Read a very thought provoking analysis of the current political scenario where it has been discussed:[h=1]'Kejriwal is not wrong, but is this the right method of realising that objective?'[/h]
http://www.rediff.com/news/intervie...sing-but-its-struggle-lies-ahead/20140121.htm

 

[drrajpalsingh]

AAP releases midnight raid videos to prove Delhi law minister Bharti right

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-raid-in-bharti-defence/article1-1176478.aspx

read the news and watch the videos...
serial has just started, I am sure more and more hard stuff will follow.

RK^2

For a critical analysis of the issue along with issuance of Videos kindly read an interesting article :

http://www.rediff.com/news/column/debunking-aaps-democratisation-of-justice/20140125.htm

Thanks and regards

 

[krishdel]

AAP has put all those which suits AAP,
Why AAP has not uploaded video to AAP site before raid that these are the persons involved in that racket in Khirki Extn.
While in advertisement by AAP govt it asks persons to make video and upload at Govt Site why govt failed to follow its own rule.

There are many drawback of raid without warrant against women.
Example : One driver of one time MLA ( Mr.Bohra) of Najaf Gargh Delhi was searched against kidnapping, he was not found the Police took his mother in custody instead of him from some Haryana Village, they took her to Najaf Gargh and thrown her from first 2nd floor of police station,
she died on spot, Do you think arresting some lady without warrant in this case was Ok? Then how it can be OK in case of Somnath Bharti , who asked ACP to raid without warrant?

For a critical analysis of the issue along with issuance of Videos kindly read an interesting article :

http://www.rediff.com/news/column/debunking-aaps-democratisation-of-justice/20140125.htm

Thanks and regards

 

[drrajpalsingh]

But the public has approved it Dr. saheb! Look at the after effects of the Dharna that has improved the position of AAP!
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/f...ejriwal-s-dharna-shows-support-for-aap-475155



Cheers!

Friend,

Has the Chief Minister and Cabinet by sitting on Dharna to justify their 'midnight adventure' at the site where assembly of more than five persons had been banned done a right thing !

If bringing the Delhi U T to a grinding halt for about two days to divert the attention from the mid night raid by the minister has improved the position of A A P, then we must be prepared for longer Dharnas on flimsy points to further boost the position of the Party !!

 

[krishdel]

When DTC was full of person from Haryanavi then DTC was one of the bad transport system and now it is OK, like this Police is also bad because there are Haryanavi in Police and so it is bad , It will be good once Haryanavi will be in minority in Delhi Police . This is the thought of all the migrated person to Delhi. All Bihari & Poorbia do not want Haryanvi as part of Delhi Police . I request all JATS to understand this Psychological war against the community. In the hour of need we have to move vary carefully. AAP is full of Non Jats ( Pandey, Mishra, Jha & Bania) and it will have very bad effect in future on the community. Today Bihari Somnath thought of spitting at Jaitely ( Punjabi Leader) and in future he may thought of spitting at all Haryanavi policemen. We got education from Delhi University and I know how dangerous those Bihari are because Delhi University North campus is full of Biharis.
We JATS of Delhi villages are experiencing this since long time. Only during BJP rule we got some relief.

Likkam like.. Jakhar's comment

"haan to karle baat.. karle"

 

[drrajpalsingh]

When DTC was full of person from Haryanavi then DTC was one of the bad transport system and now it is OK, like this Police is also bad because there are Haryanavi in Police and so it is bad , It will be good once Haryanavi will be in minority in Delhi Police . This is the thought of all the migrated person to Delhi. All Bihari & Poorbia do not want Haryanvi as part of Delhi Police . I request all JATS to understand this Psychological war against the community. In the hour of need we have to move vary carefully. AAP is full of Non Jats ( Pandey, Mishra, Jha & Bania) and it will have very bad effect in future on the community. Today Bihari Somnath thought of spitting at Jaitely ( Punjabi Leader) and in future he may thought of spitting at all Haryanavi policemen. We got education from Delhi University and I know how dangerous those Bihari are because Delhi University North campus is full of Biharis.
We JATS of Delhi villages are experiencing this since long time. Only during BJP rule we got some relief.

AAP as of today represents Urban Middle Class people though through media hype it poses as leftist party engaged in welfare of common man.

It has nothing to do with the rural labouring and toiling people of India .

 

[singhvp]

AAP as of today represents Urban Middle Class people though through media hype it poses as leftist party engaged in welfare of common man.

It has nothing to do with the rural labouring and toiling people of India .

What about the other mainstream parties? Do you think they are more common than Kejriwal? I do not think so. In my opinion they want to perpetuate the "Haveli Culture" expecting the common men to bow to them and pay obeissance to their Havelis for each and every work which should have been otherwise a right of common man without having approached these political masters and their touts. I am surprised an academic of your stature is in favour of continuation of this rotton culture which is even worse than the colonial culture where people didn't have to run from pillar to post to have an FIR registered or to have a ration card.

 

[singhvp]

Excellent article on AAP vision and policies:

http://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/policypuzzles/entry/will-aap-s-socialism-affect-gen-next


Will AAP's socialism affect Gen-Next?




When seeds of socialism are sown, it is future generations that suffer the weeds.

There are different ways of scare-mongering resorted to by the ruling elites. One is to engage some writers and journalists to keep posting such articles which might appeal to the gullible and semi literate people lacking analytical ability. I couldn't find any substance in the article. It was a stereotyped tagging of anyone as left, who talks of minimizing the gap between the poor and the filthy rich as if it is a crime.

 

[rkumar]

There are different ways of scare-mongering resorted to by the ruling elites. One is to engage some writers and journalists to keep posting such articles which might appeal to the gullible and semi literate people lacking analytical ability.

Ruling class has been employing such tactics all through history. When it comes to AAP, almost all Indian political parties have joined hands to attack it. Public is watching the game and having its own views. History is witness that no amount of propaganda could save anti people political forces. It will take some time for AAP to become a cohesive political force. AAP has to go through all this to learn the game and defeat the opponents. In my view this is good for Indian democracy. No other party in Indian politics has been scrutinized so much as AAP in such a short period. AAP is literally like Abhimanyu surrounded by 100 Kauravas. Whenever a political system is challenged, problems are bound to come. In political jungle only the fittest will survive. Let us see if AAP can pass this test.

RK^2

 

[vicky84]

There are different ways of scare-mongering resorted to by the ruling elites. One is to engage some writers and journalists to keep posting such articles which might appeal to the gullible and semi literate people lacking analytical ability. I couldn't find any substance in the article. It was a stereotyped tagging of anyone as left, who talks of minimizing the gap between the poor and the filthy rich as if it is a crime.

No worries sir. Lets see, when government coffers will be exhausted by burgeoning subsidies bill. May be money grows on trees and Kezriwal has many such trees. Left has done such welfare in West Bengal for many years.

 

[vicky84]

Pranab da is spot on when he said : Populist anarchy can’t replace governance

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/p...mukherjee-1359489.html?utm_source=ref_article

Excerpt:

"Government is not a charity shop. Populist anarchy cannot be a substitute for governance. False promises lead to disillusionment, which gives birth to rage, and that rage has one legitimate target: those in power," he said.

The President said the rage will abate only when governments deliver what they were elected to deliver: social and economic progress, not at a snail's pace but with the speed of a racehorse.

Kezriwal is proposing lakhs of contractual jobs to be permanent. He is encouraging end of contractual jobs. Such a move will definitely discourage employers from hiring people. May be Delhi Government will employ everyone in Delhi.

Instead Kezriwal should have relaxed hiring and firing rules. And having minimum wages and entitlements imposed properly. But they are not populist measures. They won't get him votes. Why would he do that?

 

[phoolkumar]

FB pe ek band bolta hai: This is ANARCHY....http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...band-slaps-top-officer/videoshow/29359218.cms

I exclaimed:

yes! just like Somnath Bharti did in Khidki and following which Arvind Kejriwal did by 2 days dharna. Oh! Now I understand who have been their ideals, no better than AAP people itself can reference to!

achcha to ye log hain aap logon ki anti-constitutional activities karne ke guru! ki ye aise karte hain to hum bhi aise hi karenge, great philosophy with AAP is running, kudos keep it up dudes!

vaise mohalla sabhaon mein aise candidates ideal rahenge AAP waalo, kar lo bharti!