Challenges and Chances before AAP

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Samarkadian said:
So you agree that such a lot exists here and on various social media. If you are not among them then how you directly drifted my lampoon to an AAP camaraderie ( no perhaps) ? I simply answered the question your psephological thread asked. Don't find yourself exasperated and beleaguered. I am not a minder for AAP or Congress or BJP but to myself and my right of suffrage.
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Friend,

You directly alleged that there are 'Educated illiterates on this website...', ' and now you want to justify the same by putting your words in my mouth !


To put the record straight, to the best of my knowledge and belief, none of the members of the Jatland.com can be labelled as educated illiterate by any stretch of imagination.

Thanks and regards,
 
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deveshdahiya said:
Samar bhai, Isi thread me upar meri post hai, plz use padh lijiye Kejriwal ki asliyat pata lag jaegi. Wait for few days, meri RTI ka reply aane dijiye then with proof I will share details with all 'Educated Literates' on this website. Sir, I have been born and brought up in Delhi so better knows the ground realities here. Kejriwal ki jo hawa thode time pehle media ki help se bani thi aaj bilkul uske ulat hai Delhi me. Fifty percent of Kejriwal supporters are not with him now in Delhi.

'If you think Kejriwal will eradicate corruption, don't support him, he is not going to do that. If you think he will give good governance, he will disappoint you'. 'Yes, you can support him, if some of your relative or known person has got ticket from his party'
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Devesh Bhai,

Thank you writing penultimate long post about your change of the heart and I greet you on coming out of your delusion about AAP. Will surely wait for your substantial RTI proof as you mentioned.

I am afraid about your claim, media was not with AAP unless their result came out. Infact after AAP disclosed an open letter to Mukesh Ambani, all media houses had gagged AAP for months. Media is only with themselves and TRP.

It seems from your agony and scorn for AAP that you support was there because you or your known were expecting something from AAP but when immaterialised, you found it hurting and started shooting RTIs. No offence here.
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
Friend,

You directly alleged that there are 'Educated illiterates on this website...', ' and now you want to justify the same by putting your words in my mouth !


To put the record straight, to the best of my knowledge and belief, none of the members of the Jatland.com can be labelled as educated illiterate by any stretch of imagination.

Thanks and regards,
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Where do you see the justification of what I stated. I said it , I said it. So be it. You seem to take it personally. Neither JL nor other social medias ( I said this also) are anomalous when it comes to stupidity and cognitive dissonance. Relax.
 
swaich said:
Here's more on loans restructuring by nationalized banks like SBI

Will restructure loans worth Rs 7000 cr in 1 year : SBI

SBI is resorting to debt restructuring to help corporates


SBI to tread cautiously on corporate lending


Here are the top loan defaulters - all corporates:
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This is one way to look at this situation.

The restructring law was passed by UPA govt to allow struggling businesses to give some more time to recover.
However it appears that it became a tool to hide the bad debts by state banks. The default rate on restructured rate rose multiple fold.
The RBI is planning to change these laws in near future.

Restructuring the loan in itself isnt bad but when you are restructuring new loan against bad assests is bad.

Whether this is pure corruption or a policy failure can be debated but socialist will always try to link everything with corruption.

We are always wise in hindsight but it could a pure attempt by UPA to revive the economy. The Govt should have closely monitered this in which they failed.
 
spdeshwal said:
अच्छा जी, केजरीवाल मूर्खों कि वजह से है!


यह केजरीवाल ही बीजेपी और मोदी कि घिस काढेगा !
क्या राजपाल जी आप जानते हो घीस काढ़ना और घिस लीकडना क्या होता है!
अगर नहीं तो याद दिल दूँ , शीला दीक्षित भी इलेक्शन से ४ दिन पहले केह रही कोण केजरीवाल! उसकी घिस लिकड़ी ! नहीं समझे ! कोई बात न बीजेपी और मोदी कि लीक्ड जिब समझा जाओगे !
जो आप मोदी प्रधान मंत्री कि कुर्सी पर बैठा हुआ देख रहे हो ये सपना ही रेह जायेगा! इस लिए अति उत्साहित होना भी खतरनाक होता है!

खुश रहो!
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देख लेंगे।


नरेंद्र मोदी २७२+


नमो नमो।
हर हर मोदी।
घर घर मोदी।
 
मित्रों ! क्या आप जानते हैं कि आतंकी अजमल कसाब की फाँसी क्षमा कराने के लिये किन-किन लोगों ने हमारे राष्ट्रप्रमुख (राष्ट्रपति) को आवेदन दिया था?
चलिए मैं बता देता हूँ:-


०१) मेधा पाटकर,

०२) तीस्ता सीतलवाड़,

०३) मल्लिका साराभाई, और

सबसे अंत में आम आदमी पार्टी के प्रधान मंत्री प्रत्याशी --

अत्यंत सम्माननीय---


०४) श्री प्रशांत भूषण जी।



इन चारों ने मिलकर अजमल कसाब को बचाने के लिए राष्ट्रप्रमुख (राष्ट्रपति) को चिट्ठी लिखी थी। क्या गजब संयोग है कि सारे के सारे एक ही पार्टी में हैं ये आज। ये सभी "आम आदमी पार्टी" के "सम्माननीय" नेता/नेत्री हैं।


बहुत अच्छे !


अब यदि मैं पुनः ये लिखूँगा कि "अरविन्द केजरीवाल आज जो भी है वो मूर्खों के कारण है" तो सत्यपाल देशवाल जी को बुरा लगेगा।
 
Samarkadian said:
Devesh Bhai,

Thank you writing penultimate long post about your change of the heart and I greet you on coming out of your delusion about AAP. Will surely wait for your substantial RTI proof as you mentioned.

I am afraid about your claim, media was not with AAP unless their result came out. Infact after AAP disclosed an open letter to Mukesh Ambani, all media houses had gagged AAP for months. Media is only with themselves and TRP.

It seems from your agony and scorn for AAP that you support was there because you or your known were expecting something from AAP but when immaterialised, you found it hurting and started shooting RTIs. No offence here.
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More to come like this, opportunists are in lakhs and seats are limited :)
 
Samarkadian said:
Where do you see the justification of what I stated. I said it , I said it. So be it. You seem to take it personally. Neither JL nor other social medias ( I said this also) are anomalous when it comes to stupidity and cognitive dissonance. Relax.
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Friend,

As you have again repeated your statement with double emphasis that the members of this site are 'educated illiterates' and also added that they are 'anomalous when it comes to stupidity and cognitive dissonance'.

Then enjoy belittling contribution of all and sundry except Your Own Highness !

Thanks and regards
 
Samar Bhai, I assure you that neither me nor any of my known persons were expecting anything from AAP. I also participated in Anna movement and when there was Jail Bharo Andolan I also participated in that and was sent to Chhatarsal Stadium at Azadpur. At that time there was no AAP. If you doubt my intentions then you should also consider that at the time of Anna movement what was there to expect for someone (politically). My support with AAP was only for good governance. Me and my family members are very happy in our job, not interested in politics. But when AAP got a chance to fulfill its promises, they were totally failed at every front. I have mentioned it in my above post.


Brother, please understand that AAP is not different from other political parties. An example is that Vishesh Ravi is MLA from Karol Bagh on the ticket of AAP. His brother is in jail for abduction and firoti. During elections, his brother came out of jail and ther reason of the bail plea was that he wanted to help his brother in elections. You can validate my statement from different news portal also. Also, if some of your relative is in Karol Bagh, you can get it confirmed from them also. My questions is, if same thing is done by other party members then Kejriwal calls them bad politicians and if same thing happens in his own party, he has no issues, he is silent.


I am against Kejriwal because he is also like other politicians. Bade bade vade and no delivery on ground. Now, people supporting Kejriwal are saying that congress-BJP were not supporting him on Janlokpal. I know that these parties were not in favor of Janlokpal, but there are other issues also. Lokayukt is there and citizen charter is there, why Kejriwal didn't pay his attention to Citizen charter which is also mentioned in Janlokpal. Wasn't all this the drama for achieving bigger targets? For him Janlokpal is a political mudda as 'Mandal', 'Garibi', 'Reservation', 'Pseudo-secularism' etc are for other parties.


Believe me my friend, all my colleagues who were earlier supporting him and who are really AAM AADMI (busy in their dal-roti) are against him. In re-elections, he is surely going to loose in Delhi. Rest, all of you are intelligent and picture will be clear in few months.
 
Dular Bhai, any link for this ? Most probably you are right because names you have mentioned here, we can expect that from them. But still link makes it more credible from some independent source.

rajpaldular said:
मित्रों ! क्या आप जानते हैं कि आतंकी अजमल कसाब की फाँसी क्षमा कराने के लिये किन-किन लोगों ने हमारे राष्ट्रप्रमुख (राष्ट्रपति) को आवेदन दिया था?
चलिए मैं बता देता हूँ:-


०१) मेधा पाटकर,

०२) तीस्ता सीतलवाड़,

०३) मल्लिका साराभाई, और

सबसे अंत में आम आदमी पार्टी के प्रधान मंत्री प्रत्याशी --

अत्यंत सम्माननीय---


०४) श्री प्रशांत भूषण जी।



इन चारों ने मिलकर अजमल कसाब को बचाने के लिए राष्ट्रप्रमुख (राष्ट्रपति) को चिट्ठी लिखी थी। क्या गजब संयोग है कि सारे के सारे एक ही पार्टी में हैं ये आज। ये सभी "आम आदमी पार्टी" के "सम्माननीय" नेता/नेत्री हैं।


बहुत अच्छे !


अब यदि मैं पुनः ये लिखूँगा कि "अरविन्द केजरीवाल आज जो भी है वो मूर्खों के कारण है" तो सत्यपाल देशवाल जी को बुरा लगेगा।
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Conspiracy theories, twisting history, fascism, hero-worship, using patriotism like scoundrels do - as a last resort. All traits of Modi-bhakts and right wingers.
 
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Dear Devesh

I am giving the related details and link about this case against the MLA's brother and the link! Memeber may decided themselves rather than believing your political sermon!


In the present case, Chakit was arrested along with one other for allegedly kidnapping Ritesh Bansal — owner of a construction business in central Delhi — and demanding ransom of `30 lakh for releasing him. They were nabbed hours after Ritesh was kidnapped by four men.

The other two accomplices are still absconding. According to the police, Ritesh was allegedly picked up by a business associate on August 25 at gun-point and taken to a spot near Rithala Metro Station where the ransom had to be paid. Chakit has been booked under various Sections of the IPC for kidnapping and also under the Arms Act. “Chakit was helping Ritesh in mediation of some business issues,” the FIR said



http://mail.dailypioneer.com/city/aap-candidates-brother-held-in-kidnapping-case.html

Friends, don't you think that this was a pre-election news feed created to malign and implicate the candidates of a particular party. Interesting Binny, the disgruntled MLA also mentioned in some case.

Devesh Bhai, it is on record that this Government has taken some land mark actions:
Long standing demand and agitation against Private school owners for admission in primary schools
FIR against Reliance and the present and previous petroleum Ministers!
corruption Helpline!

Immediate relief in electricity bills and to provide long term benefits audit of electricity companies has been ordered!
Relief in water charges !
These are some of the achievements of the AAP Govenment in just 50 days time! They would have certainly done much more if that stayed longer! But the circumstances forced them out!
Lastly you have mention about the Lokayukt. The present unti corruption provisions of Lokayukt were not effective and the Janlokpal one that AAP party wanted to make a law was modified Lokayukt only! Is the current Lokayukt effective enough? What role it has it played in last 10-12 years in bring down the corruption level? How many officers have been booked and punished under that provision? The answer is none!

You had also given a very poor argument about the composition of leadership, " Purviyas and Biharis".. Do you realy think so? I believe the top leadership of the AAP belies your statement !Arvind, Manish, Yogender Yadav, Sanjay Singh are the ones in my opinion would have most importent position in the party! Which other party has Jats in top position if you are looking for that!

Cheers!
 
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spdeshwal said:
Dear Devesh

I am giving the related details and link about this case against the MLA's brother and the link! Memeber may decided themselves rather than believing your political sermon!


In the present case, Chakit was arrested along with one other for allegedly kidnapping Ritesh Bansal — owner of a construction business in central Delhi — and demanding ransom of `30 lakh for releasing him. They were nabbed hours after Ritesh was kidnapped by four men.

The other two accomplices are still absconding. According to the police, Ritesh was allegedly picked up by a business associate on August 25 at gun-point and taken to a spot near Rithala Metro Station where the ransom had to be paid. Chakit has been booked under various Sections of the IPC for kidnapping and also under the Arms Act. “Chakit was helping Ritesh in mediation of some business issues,” the FIR said



http://mail.dailypioneer.com/city/aap-candidates-brother-held-in-kidnapping-case.html

Friends, don't you think that this was a pre-election news feed created to malign and implicate the candidates of a particular party. Interesting Binny, the disgruntled MLA also mentioned in some case.

Devesh Bhai, it is on record that this Government has taken some land mark actions:
Long standing demand and agitation against Private school owners for admission in primary schools
FIR against Reliance and the present and previous petroleum Ministers!
corruption Helpline!

Immediate relief in electricity bills and to provide long term benefits audit of electricity companies has been ordered!
Relief in water charges !
These are some of the achievements of the AAP Govenment in just 50 days time! They would have certainly done much more if that stayed longer! But the circumstances forced them out!
Lastly you have mention about the Lokayukt. The present unti corruption provisions of Lokayukt were not effective and the Janlokpal one that AAP party wanted to make a law was modified Lokayukt only! Is the current Lokayukt effective enough? What role it has it played in last 10-12 years in bring down the corruption level? How many officers have been booked and punished under that provision? The answer is none!

You had also given a very poor argument about the composition of leadership, " Purviyas and Biharis".. Do you realy think so? I believe the top leadership of the AAP belies your statement !Arvind, Manish, Yogender Yadav, Sanjay Singh are the ones in my opinion would have most importent position in the party! Which other party has Jats in top position if you are looking for that!

Cheers!
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Deswalji,

Interesting revelation about 'tainted' candidates in the field like MLA brother Ritesh and then your latest addition Binny !

Is it not emerging a grave pattern for the self proclaimed better political 'ALTERNATIVE' as regards picking up of candidates to contest elections.

Thanks and regards
 
swaich said:
This is hilarious. Right wingers classifying traits of others. Conspiracy theories, twisting history, fascism, hero-worship, using patriotism like scoundrels do - as a last resort. All traits of Modi-bhakts and right wingers.
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Thanks for initiating the off topic personal remark and for classifying me as a right winger. I will not take any offence as this is a well known practiced political ideology across the globe & throughout the history. But I would like to say something on remark Modi-Bhakt, This is not fair as Modi is a human being and he is not above ideology, he is there today may be someone will take this position tomorrow. A true right winger can never be a bhakt of any individual if he is it means he is not a right winger. Both are contrasting.

As you obliged me with classification & traits , I thought for a while to classify you as well but couldn't find any decorous category matching the traits. So I assume you will not force me to classify you and will continue to post topic related stuff. I understand your frustration with rise of right wing. Any form of patriotism is better than being traitor -we have witnessed it for thousand of years even during British time when some communities always helped British.
 
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Rajpal Dular ji, please do not drag other members into it simply because they raise Qs over it.
Keep your copy paste stuff upto Kejriwal Vs NaMo Vs RaGa only.

Why pulling fellow Jatlanders into it ?

rajpaldular said:
अब यदि मैं पुनः ये लिखूँगा कि "अरविन्द केजरीवाल आज जो भी है वो मूर्खों के कारण है" तो सत्यपाल देशवाल जी को बुरा लगेगा।
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anilsangwan said:
Rajpal Dular ji, please do not drag other members into it simply because they raise Qs over it.
Keep your copy paste stuff upto Kejriwal Vs NaMo Vs RaGa only.

Why pulling fellow Jatlanders into it ?
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सिद्ध करो कि ये कॉपी पेस्ट है.
 
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