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Kos Kos pe badli paani
Chaar kos pe Vaani

Dr. Rajendra Prasad said those words trying to reflect the cultural diversity of India, but what now is reflected is a race in between the people of one community to excel over each other.

It is for good, but only when done in a clean manner which hardly happens.


I have had similar issues like Sam mentioned but what i chose later was to move away, be it from some people or some threads like Humour cause that is where these kind of problems happen.

I once even saw a moderator rationalising with me on the basis of region/language, and then i even brought this up with other moderators too and things got sought out later.

Hence Sam, if you think something is going wrong with you just inform people with proof, we all know it happens but if you want people to believe you then have some facts and proofs handy.

I belong to UP, but am great friends with jats from Haryana Rajasthan and Punjab, just because i chore right and likeminded people...:)
 
mr vikas
first of all wanna let u knw that this is not a case and this site is not a court .........tat u said above that handy all d proofs and facts,,,,,,,,,,,
mr choudhary i think we all come here to hv fun,,,,,bit laugh,,,,,, just to be in touch of ur frnds..........and to knw abt our roots............thats it.............
now,, a member started a thread and throwing her self made philosphy and blaming whole community from haryana here ...........this is disgusting
and well if anyone have issues everytime with others then there are two options..........ignore it or ask the responsible one to stop that .........but to blame whole haryanvi jats and their accent.........do u think its a wise step ?
well i knw whatever u said above is just a philosphical thing and far away from the facts...........coz i reckon no one come here to make fun of others and u knw nobdy has plenty of time to do all that crap................
so pls try to understand what i mean.........if u find this place not suitable according to u and u feel its not respectable for u then u knw wat u have to do............?
if i would be in ur shoe,i would do that..........
just ignore all this minor things and be happy or just leave and cause no trouble for anyone by commenting like that.........
thnx:cool:
no offence


desijat said:
Kos Kos pe badli paani
Chaar kos pe Vaani

Dr. Rajendra Prasad said those words trying to reflect the cultural diversity of India, but what now is reflected is a race in between the people of one community to excel over each other.
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I think Samiksha has raised a very important point here about the spirit of community. Unfortunately, I see a total lack of empathy in some of the comments above especially Amit bhai jumping to the conclusion 'hypocrite girl'. This is just not ON.

There's absolutely no problem in using haryanvi language in posts at all. In fact, I'll encourage people to do that as long as you can provide a translation for others. Because that will help a lot of people like me learn haryanvi. If you havn't got time to translate please put in the thread heading 'Must know haryanvi'.

Did I ask for too much, my dear friends? Can we not show little bit more understanding and be a bit more caring to all members of our community, in the name of community spirit?
 
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yogeshjagal said:
I think Samiksha has raised a very important point here about the spirit of community. Unfortunately, I see a total lack of empathy in some of the comments above especially Amit bhai jumping to the conclusion 'hypocrite girl'. This is just not ON.

There's absolutely no problem in using haryanvi language in posts at all. In fact, I'll encourage people to do that as long as you can provide a translation for others. Because that will help a lot of people like me learn haryanvi. If you havn't got time to translate please put in the thread heading 'Must know haryanvi'.

Did I ask for too much, my dear friends? Can we not show little bit more understanding and be a bit more caring to all members of our community, in the name of community spirit?
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...No you are not asking for too much...
But just a bit curious; but have you yourself come across any thread that you were unable to participate and/or read etc. because it was in Haryanvi completely and needed translation??? :confused:

As to the total lack of 'sympathy' I hope you do realize that when you say, quote/unquote: 'There's absolutely no problem in using haryanvi language in posts at all.' you are pretty much endorsing the same thing as most of us have been trying to explain here all along!... :rolleyes:
 
Shailendra ji,

Having lived in Delhi (quite close to Haryana) and fortunately having few relatives in Haryana did help me understand Haryanvi a little bit. And as a result initially when I joined JatLand I did try to be a sport. However, I gradually found myself driven off from many threads as the use of Haryanvi got a bit too heavy for my capability.

As for Samiksha finding some people using dark sarcasm in the name of humour - From personal experiences, I know Haryanvi humour can be a bit too harsh (almost dark sarcasm) for non Haryanvis to handle - my first brush with it was as a teenager boy who went to attend a wedding in Rohtak, incidently I was dressed a bit fashionably and I was very heavily bullied for that by both rohtak boys & girls of my age. :-)

I found most Jats in Haryana tend to express themselves in a very raw manner and this is more of a cultural thing to me. But it does no harm to be sensitive to other regions/cultures. Jats from Rajasthan can find Haryanvi humour a bit too hard as they even abuse quite respectfully. For example - 'Mhara joota thare sir pe virajega' in Rajasthani will be a very different emotion in Haryanvi.

Therefore, for non-haryanvis like me some of the personal comments on Samiksha up in this thread are clearly in a bad taste.

BTW, being culturally a bit more sensitive applies to both Haryanvi and non-haryanvi jats. The very reason for existance of this community is for both haryanvi and non-haryanvi jats to communicate with each other and learn from each other including haryanvi/rajasthani language. The challenge is to try and ensure that use of a language should not turn away people.
 
yogeshjagal said:
Shailendra ji,

...And as a result initially when I joined JatLand I did try to be a sport. However, I gradually found myself driven off from many threads as the use of Haryanvi got a bit too heavy for my capability.

The very reason for existance of this community is for both haryanvi and non-haryanvi jats to communicate with each other and learn from each other including haryanvi/rajasthani language. The challenge is to try and ensure that use of a language should not turn away people.
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I agree with you on every account except still trying to figure out which threads you may be referring to (in the above underlined sentence)...

Unless you were bullied out (?) from a good serious discussion by someone simply on the basis of using 'Haryanvi' (I am sorry; I still somehow just can't picture that) If you, I would of course not worry too much about 'useless' and Fuhadd (lacking class) kinda threads anyways, you (and most of us) are possibly better off staying away from those pointless mock-fights either ways...

Cheers! ;)
 
Shailendra ji, you are right, it was not any serious discussion thread.
Threads that turned me away were mostly Fuhadd. I'm already doing as you advised - staying away from them. :-)

Cheers,
 
Hey!! Yogesh Bro,
Kudos to u!!

I strongly agree with you!!

Well, being a Rajasthani Jat I know that Rajasthani ppl including Jats too known to be very humble, honest and soft-spoken...though its a generalized manner but still its said so as Rajasthani Language is very sweet n we here show a lotta respect to elders, guests etc.

But here Im not saying that Haryanwi Jats r bad or rude nor Im sayin that Haryanwi is rude.... infact I luv Haryanwi lang .... thanx to Jatlande cuz here only I found many real Jat friends from Haryana too n I learnt very much of Haryanwi.....its like virtual home to me !! :)

Well, the crux of my reply here is to request some so called real Haryanwi here who bringing bad name to Haryanwi language....by sayin that our language is like this only n all!! :rolleyes:

I agree that Haryanwi lang is a bit harsh, candid n sarcastic but I dont find dark sarcasm n leg pulling anywhere!! :confused:

I guess Sam is not the only one who has face sucha thing before.....earlier lotta ppl have stopped visiting this site cuz many so called real haryanwis started leg-pulling n satire remarks.... look @ here - http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19942

so matter of the fact is ....we wont find anything by leg pullin, fightin each other n passing satire remarks to each othere.....we're here to unite not divide cuz A JAT IS A JAT IS A JAT......no matter is he/she is from Haryana/Rajasthan/Delhi/UP/MP n wherever he/she are!!

Thanks for ur kind concern!!

Rock on
Jit

yogeshjagal said:
Shailendra ji,

Having lived in Delhi (quite close to Haryana) and fortunately having few relatives in Haryana did help me understand Haryanvi a little bit. And as a result initially when I joined JatLand I did try to be a sport. However, I gradually found myself driven off from many threads as the use of Haryanvi got a bit too heavy for my capability.

As for Samiksha finding some people using dark sarcasm in the name of humour - From personal experiences, I know Haryanvi humour can be a bit too harsh (almost dark sarcasm) for non Haryanvis to handle - my first brush with it was as a teenager boy who went to attend a wedding in Rohtak, incidently I was dressed a bit fashionably and I was very heavily bullied for that by both rohtak boys & girls of my age. :-)

I found most Jats in Haryana tend to express themselves in a very raw manner and this is more of a cultural thing to me. But it does no harm to be sensitive to other regions/cultures. Jats from Rajasthan can find Haryanvi humour a bit too hard as they even abuse quite respectfully. For example - 'Mhara joota thare sir pe virajega' in Rajasthani will be a very different emotion in Haryanvi.

Therefore, for non-haryanvis like me some of the personal comments on Samiksha up in this thread are clearly in a bad taste.

BTW, being culturally a bit more sensitive applies to both Haryanvi and non-haryanvi jats. The very reason for existance of this community is for both haryanvi and non-haryanvi jats to communicate with each other and learn from each other including haryanvi/rajasthani language. The challenge is to try and ensure that use of a language should not turn away people.
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oofohhhhhhh..

total waste f time,,
get sum brains guys,,get sum life
b4 startin such kinda insticating n oppressive threads!:rolleyes:
 
Samiksha has a valid argument

All reasonable people have clearly stated that Samiksha's point is valid and we need to look into our ways of expressing ourselves here.

Language that we speak should not and will not be allowed to creat any feeling of aleniation among any member of this site.
 
bhai rahul ya baat time waste nahi hai agar hum is baat ko support kar rahe hai ki haryanwi community and its accent is absolutely NOT a dark sarcasm.......
yaha par kuch log bina matlab ka raag aalapte rehte hai aur hamesha ye show off karte hai ki they got the best culture and they are so called humble people and believe in leg pulling but they say this thing abt others like couple of members did in above threads.........yaha par sabse baddi problem ye hai ki aapni dahi ne koi nahi khatta bataana chahta par dusre ki taraf badde aaram se ungli uthha dette hai..............my free advice to those so called cultural people .....first u learn to stop leg pulling of other community and its accent ... or if u cant ,,thn stop blaming others....
again ....dusroo par tanne kassne se pehle aapne collar main jhankk kar dekh lena chaahiyee..........
i love to add one thing more that if few mwmbers feel proud to be a rajasthani jat then dosto i feel so much ,,(more then them ) proud to be a haryanvi jat and i proud on my haryanvi accent .......
i hate those who blame it:D


rahultokas said:
THEEEK KAHII AAPNEY:D
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narwal said:
bhai rahul ya baat time waste nahi hai agar hum is baat ko support kar rahe hai ki haryanwi community and its accent is absolutely NOT a dark sarcasm.......
yaha par kuch log bina matlab ka raag aalapte rehte hai aur hamesha ye show off karte hai ki they got the best culture and they are so called humble people and believe in leg pulling but they say this thing abt others like couple of members did in above threads.........yaha par sabse baddi problem ye hai ki aapni dahi ne koi nahi khatta bataana chahta par dusre ki taraf badde aaram se ungli uthha dette hai..............my free advice to those so called cultural people .....first u learn to stop leg pulling of other community and its accent ... or if u cant ,,thn stop blaming others....
again ....dusroo par tanne kassne se pehle aapne collar main jhankk kar dekh lena chaahiyee..........
i love to add one thing more that if few mwmbers feel proud to be a rajasthani jat then dosto i feel so much ,,(more then them ) proud to be a haryanvi jat and i proud on my haryanvi accent .......
i hate those who blame it:D
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THEEEK KAHII AAPNEY BHII:D
 
narwal said:
bhai rahul ya baat time waste nahi hai agar hum is baat ko support kar rahe hai ki haryanwi community and its accent is absolutely NOT a dark sarcasm.......
yaha par kuch log bina matlab ka raag aalapte rehte hai aur hamesha ye show off karte hai ki they got the best culture and they are so called humble people and believe in leg pulling but they say this thing abt others like couple of members did in above threads.........yaha par sabse baddi problem ye hai ki aapni dahi ne koi nahi khatta bataana chahta par dusre ki taraf badde aaram se ungli uthha dette hai..............my free advice to those so called cultural people .....first u learn to stop leg pulling of other community and its accent ... or if u cant ,,thn stop blaming others....
again ....dusroo par tanne kassne se pehle aapne collar main jhankk kar dekh lena chaahiyee..........
i love to add one thing more that if few mwmbers feel proud to be a rajasthani jat then dosto i feel so much ,,(more then them ) proud to be a haryanvi jat and i proud on my haryanvi accent .......
i hate those who blame it:D
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Agree with u...
 
Amit....i agree with evry word what you have written....though i wanted to post my comments on this thread when it was created then i saw the creator and supporters and ignored it. Like most of them are saying FEW HARYANWAVIS....same way FEW RAJASTHANIS n UP JATS have this problem....If we have got an INSTINCTIVE SENSE OF HUMOR which they FAIL TO GRASP and blame it AS DARK SARCASM its not our problem....is it? We try our level best to be supportive and humorous and expressive but everyone has his/her own unique mentality and perception about things and its THEIR PERSPECTIVE of looking at things not ours. So they should stop blaming us as a community:o My most bitter experiences here were with A RAJASTHANI n UP JAT....so far i remember i used their names and didn't BLAME STATES or WHOLE CLAN:(
narwal said:
bhai rahul ya baat time waste nahi hai agar hum is baat ko support kar rahe hai ki haryanwi community and its accent is absolutely NOT a dark sarcasm.......
yaha par kuch log bina matlab ka raag aalapte rehte hai aur hamesha ye show off karte hai ki they got the best culture and they are so called humble people and believe in leg pulling but they say this thing abt others like couple of members did in above threads.........yaha par sabse baddi problem ye hai ki aapni dahi ne koi nahi khatta bataana chahta par dusre ki taraf badde aaram se ungli uthha dette hai..............my free advice to those so called cultural people .....first u learn to stop leg pulling of other community and its accent ... or if u cant ,,thn stop blaming others....
again ....dusroo par tanne kassne se pehle aapne collar main jhankk kar dekh lena chaahiyee..........
i love to add one thing more that if few mwmbers feel proud to be a rajasthani jat then dosto i feel so much ,,(more then them ) proud to be a haryanvi jat and i proud on my haryanvi accent .......
i hate those who blame it:D
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