Congress: Greatest Threat to Hindu Religion and India

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not agree bhai... is baat ko sire se kharij karta hu...

din-raat ka farak to nahi kahunga... but subah-shaam jitna to farak jaroor hai...

jaise ye waise vo... aisa bilkul nahi hai... inme kai log kharab bhi hongae... par fer bhi congress se laakh guna behtar hain...

atishmohan said:
Paanu jisi cangresss ussi e BJP sai.. buss mauka koni laag rehya BJP ka ! Na tai we bhi bhatere khatarnaak sain !!
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VPannu said:
Vikas, जिस thread में भी कांग्रेस पे आंच आती दिक्खे है उससे में आ ले है हथियार ठ के | पक्का भगत से ......... (देश का :sentimental:)
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In the process of showing his loyalty, he even drags personal issue related to someone's Sirname at public place. Then, says its a matter better him and Jit bhai. Oeee....Really!!! That's why he putted some link about Jit in Public thread. Great!!!

Disappointed by Jit's reply. He shouldn't have clarified about points intended to embarrass him. Let him write whatever he wants.

Warning: Please check all your public accounts; he may pop-up some "secret" about you. Then, ask you to prove your credentials based on that.
 
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Bhai hain kuch acche logg BJP mei lekin bhai aap overall dekhte ho to nyu e sai saare kai...Sab jagah Dynasty hai.. saab apne ghar bharne mei laage gue hain.. jiska mauka lagge hai wo nahi chhodta kuch bhi..Baaki bhai ye padho news :


http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...78_1_irrigation-scam-nitin-gadkari-crore-scam

Maharashtra irrigation scam: Whistleblower names Gadkari

Anjali Damania is instrumental in blowing the lid off the Rs 72, 000 crore scam. Damania said that when she met Gadkari in August at his home in Worli, Mumbai, he told her to not push too hard to expose the scam.

Damania said that the BJP's attitude was very discouraging, as was that of Gadkari, who even allegedly stated to having business ties with Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) chief Sharad Pawar.

Without naming Gadkari, Damania said 'the opposition party chief' told her "we help Pawar and he helps us, can't do anything in this scam."

She claimed to have met Gadkari thrice, once in Delhi in June 2011 and twice in Mumbai, in August 2011 and August 14 this year.

"Since the NCP and the Congress are together, we went to the opposition party, but they strictly told me that they could not do anything about it. Their party president himself told me that he could not do anything regarding this; he shares businesses with Sharad Pawar. They help each other in their matters. So, he could not do anything about it. We were shocked after getting such kind of a reply," she said.


sanjeev1984 said:
not agree bhai... is baat ko sire se kharij karta hu...

din-raat ka farak to nahi kahunga... but subah-shaam jitna to farak jaroor hai...

jaise ye waise vo... aisa bilkul nahi hai... inme kai log kharab bhi hongae... par fer bhi congress se laakh guna behtar hain...
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Kyu bhai? Inhone konsi kasar chorhi hai?

Coffin Scam, Unified licensing scam, Bangaru Laxman, Security lapses like Kargil, Parliament attack, JK assembly attack and IC 814 all this in 5 years of govt.

Mouka nahi aata warna sab ek dusre ke baap hai. They all have same vision and policy with different names, just that BJP lacks discipline and has too many leaders.

sanjeev1984 said:
not agree bhai... is baat ko sire se kharij karta hu...

din-raat ka farak to nahi kahunga... but subah-shaam jitna to farak jaroor hai...

jaise ye waise vo... aisa bilkul nahi hai... inme kai log kharab bhi hongae... par fer bhi congress se laakh guna behtar hain...
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Hold on, dont assume. You make an ass by assuming, remember it.

I know Jit bhai and have deep regards for him and the matter is between him and me so keep your opinion to yourself.

bazardparveen said:
In the process of showing his loyalty, he even drags personal issue related to someone's Sirname at public place. Then, say it's a matter better him and Jit bhai. Oeee....Really!!! That's why he putted some link about Jit in Public thread. Great!!!

Disappointed by Jit's reply. He shouldn't have clarify about points intended to embarrasHolds him. Let him write whatever he wants.

Warning: Please check all your public accounts; he may pop-up some "secret" about you. Then, ask you to prove your credentials based on that.
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yahin se congress or BJP mai farak pata chal jata hai... kisi incident ya scam ke hone se pehle to predict karna mushkil hai... judge karna hai to us political party ne aisa incident hone ke baat kya kiya, ye dekh ke judge karna chahiye...

Scams :
Congress stand : kalmadi (congress) or raja (supporting party) ye to latest example hai... jail ja ke aa chuke hain... or fir se parliamentary committies mai aa gaye... coal scam mai PM naam hone ke baad bhi resign nahi kar ruha...
BJP's stand : Yedurappa to next day hi CM se hata diya... Laxman Bangaru ko party se nikal diya tha.. or KeshuBhai patel ko earthquake relief fund mai irrgularity karte hi CM se resign karwa diya tha...

Conclusion : ek tarak congress... jo culprits ko pehle defend karte hain, fir kisi position se nahi hatate.. jail mai sari facilities arrange karwate hain... or bahar aate hi unka promotion kar dete hain... doosri taraf BJP hai jo kisi bhi leader ke involvement ka pata chalte hi... sidhe bahar karti hai or judiciary ko apna kaam karne deti hai... "ye farak hai dono mai"

Or ye sirf scams ke case mai nahi hai... Riots ke case mai bhi aisa hi hai...

1982 ke riots ke culprits MP ban gaye the... or Modi pe CBI, Supreme Court ki SIT ne investigae kar liya fir bhi yahi news failate hain ki usne hi riots karwaye the...

in congressiyo ki besharmi sari limits cross kar chuki hai...

desijat said:
Chor to chor hi rahenge, chahe BJP ho ya congress.
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is thread ke post no 390 mai maine kuch likha tha... shaya "selective reading" ki bimari ke karan miss ho gaya hoga... koi baat nahi fir se likh deta hu...

waise ye is desh ka durbhagaya hai ki nap-tol/performance/ result ke tarike hi change kar diye...
jab UPA (congress) ki performance ke bare mai baat ho to focus hota hai "inke 5 saal ke raj mai kya accha hua"
jab NDA (BJP) ki performance ke bare mai baat ho to focus hota hai "inke raj mai kya bura hua hai"

Coffin Scam : Us time ke difence ministary mai hua tha... JD ka Fernandis tha us time DM... or usne tabhi responsibility le ke resign kar diya tha... fir baad mai DM clean bahar aaye the.. or Atal Ji ne Parliament mai is bare mai ek speech bhi di thi... youtube pe hai uski clip... easily milhayegi...

Unified Licensing Scam : i think 2G ke bare mai baat ho ruhi hai... google kiya to ye mila "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2G_spectrum_scam" or ye BJP ka kiya hua nahi tha... congress ke scams ki jimmedari bhi ab BJP legi kya??? or iske bare mai TIME ne bola tha "In 2011, Time magazine listed the scam at number two on their “Top 10 Abuses of Power” list (just behind the Watergate scandal)." or besharmi ka aalam to dekho... media mai aa ke justify karte the ki scam to hua hi nahi... aare public ko to pagal bana loge... SC ko bi bewakoof samajhte ho kya???

Bangaru Laxman : aapk kisi ko rook nahi sakte bribe lene se... important ye hai ki kisi ke aisa kuch karne ke baad aap kya karte ho... or sari dniya ko wahi message jana chahiye... yahi BJp ne kiya usko party se bhi bahar kar diya or case bhi chala...

Security Lapses in Kargil : aap kya chahte hain ki BJP ke log bandook utha ke border pe khade ho jaye... BJP ke raj mai ek ladai hui or jitni land pehle india ke pass thi ladai khatam hone ke baad us se jayada land pe kabja kar liya... jab ki congress ke raaj mai indian kashmir mai china or pakistan ko itni land "donate" kar chuka hai... jitni land pe 3 Israel basaye ja sakte hain...

Parliament Attack : Attack karne wala aaj bhi jail mai hai... magar ye congressi usko fasi na laga sakte, koonki muslim bahiyo ke vote nahi milangae... J&K vidhan sabha ne to PM & President ko letter likhne ki bhi thaan li hai ki Afjal Guru & Company ko fasi na di jaye... Or us attack mai jo police wale mare gaye... unke ghar wale har saal laal kile or parliament ke saamne dharna dete hain ki humein pension deni suru kar do or accused ko fasi de do...

J&K Assembly attack : Boye peed babul ka to aam kahan se hoye???

IC 814 : kai bar tune hypocracy word bola... or vo word yahin fir hota hai... agar na bacha ke late to bhi tu or congressi shor macha ruhe hote.. or ab bhi macha ruhe ho... waise ek baat bata du... us hijack ke time pe BJP ne jo decision liya... vo congress se baat kar ke or usko confidence mai le ke liya tha... par bechare Atal ji galati kar gaye.. kaise dogle logo pe vishwassh kar liya... jo unki meeting mai kuch bolte hain or bahar media ke saamne kuch or...

and for your kind info... atal ji ki sarkar 5 nahi 6 saal chali thi... jaisa ki maine pehle kaha ki bhai abhi tugjhe bahot kuch seekhne or jaan-ne ki jarurat hai...

desijat said:
Kyu bhai? Inhone konsi kasar chorhi hai?

Coffin Scam, Unified licensing scam, Bangaru Laxman, Security lapses like Kargil, Parliament attack, JK assembly attack and IC 814 all this in 5 years of govt.

Mouka nahi aata warna sab ek dusre ke baap hai. They all have same vision and policy with different names, just that BJP lacks discipline and has too many leaders.
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ha ha ha... waise to mugjhe khud vo halwai jaisi shakal ka, barrole se muh aala accha nahi lagta... but bhai aapne jis anjali ka reference diya hai... uske upar Gadkari ne maan hani ka case kar diya hai... or iske jawab mai anjali ka statement aaya tha news mai, maine bhi suna tha... ki mere pass apni baat sabhit karne ke paryapt saboot nahi hain... ab kya karein aise activists ka jo baat bolne se phle sabuto hain ya nahi, ye bhi nahi dekhte...

activists to vo hote hain jo saamne se case karte hain... media mai ja ke aisi statement nahi dete ki gadkari bhi shamil hai... or fir case dekh ke dar jate hain... :)

lakin ek baat aapne observe kari??? kahani thi thi NCP or Congress ke leader ne irrigation scam kiya or maharashtra ke ek cabinet minister ne resign kar diya... or beech mai ek activist ne gadkari ke bare mai kuch bol diya or sabka dhayan usi taraf ho gaya... media ka bhi or public ka bhi...

koi bhi scam ho jaye... issue ko dilute karne mai congress or media thoda sa bhi time nahi lagati...

aare yaar agar koi BJP ka leader bhi shamil hai irrigation scam mai to chadha do usko bhi fasi pe... but jo accept kar ke resign bhi daal chuka hai uska bhi to kuch kar lo... us se kyon muh feer ruhe ho???

atishmohan said:
Bhai hain kuch acche logg BJP mei lekin bhai aap overall dekhte ho to nyu e sai saare kai...Sab jagah Dynasty hai.. saab apne ghar bharne mei laage gue hain.. jiska mauka lagge hai wo nahi chhodta kuch bhi..Baaki bhai ye padho news :


http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...78_1_irrigation-scam-nitin-gadkari-crore-scam

Maharashtra irrigation scam: Whistleblower names Gadkari

Anjali Damania ... such kind of a reply," she said.
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desijat said:
Hold on, dont assume. You make an ass by assuming, remember it.

I know Jit bhai and have deep regards for him and the matter is between him and me so keep your opinion to yourself.
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ओ हो, या बात थी के l बचके रेहणा पडेगा तेरे त तो , जाणंन आल्या (deep respect भी स)गेल्या तू न्यू कर दे स ...बाकीया के तो लते पाड लेगा l :angel::singing:
 
All things said and done, I find BJP's opposition to FDI or previously the nuclear deal extremely opportunistic. They are claimed to be different than other political parties especially the Congress, but there behavior in these two issues has hardly been any different. They were the ones to originally partially open up the agricultural sectors and in fact BJP ruled states like Gujarat and Punjab have the most number of Wal-Mart (wholesale) operations where farmers directly sell produce to companies. Even now the Akali-BJP combine in Punjab has welcomed the FDI policy change.

Same goes for the Indo-US nuclear deal. BJP were the original nuclear strategy makers and many sources commented on Brajesh Mishra and Vajpayee's back room dealings with Bush in his first term as responsible for the nuclear deal, later signed during UPA-I. Still the BJP sided with CPI and other leftists in ignoring the practical and long term benefits of the deal and instead beat the "sold the country to foreigners" drum.

The opposition to nuclear deal can still be understood as done due to political compulsions and the fact that as is the fashion in Indian democracy, the opposition has to always - Oppose. But the opposition to FDI in retail seems more like BJP is being pulled by its Bania votebank. The Bania and other middlemen often skim hefty margins off farmer produce and thus stand to lose the most from any direct foreign involvement in agriculture. So while they gain, the farmer and the consumer loses. I hope BJP doesnt fall to this 'pull' and when it comes to power next term with its allies (as the popular trends suggest, though one can never say) doesn't reverse the FDI reforms. They should be able to stand up and support a good decision, however belated it may be or at least be firm at their previous stand.
 
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sanjeev1984 said:
ha ha ha... waise to mugjhe khud vo halwai jaisi shakal ka, barrole se muh aala accha nahi lagta... but bhai aapne jis anjali ka reference diya hai... uske upar Gadkari ne maan hani ka case kar diya hai... or iske jawab mai anjali ka statement aaya tha news mai, maine bhi suna tha... ki mere pass apni baat sabhit karne ke paryapt saboot nahi hain... ab kya karein aise activists ka jo baat bolne se phle sabuto hain ya nahi, ye bhi nahi dekhte...
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Bhai Gadkari ka naam aise hi nahi aa raha hai :

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/the-70-000-crore-scam-nitin-gadkari-s-letter-shows-he-crossed-his-party-s-line-275520?pfrom=home-lateststories

The 70,000 crore scam: Nitin Gadkari's letter shows he crossed his party's line


New Delhi: In a revelation that could greatly embarrass his party, BJP President Nitiin Gadkari has written a letter to the Union Water Ministry, asking for funds to be released to contractors in a mega dam project in Maharashtra.

The Gosikhurd irrigation dam project in Vidarbha has been the centrepiece of the BJP's attack against the state government, which the party says is guilty of a massive irrigation scam. It was started in 1983 at a cost of 461 crores , but more than 2 decades later, the project is still incomplete, marred by controversy, and the costs have escalated to an estimated 18,000 crore rupees.

Several committees have found fault with the quality of works on the dam, including the Vadnere Committee report which pointed to lapses by the contractors which have been ignored by the officials and the Central Water Commission which said wherever the quality is not up to the mark, work needs to be redone.

These complaints are the reason why payments have been stopped by the Centre to the project.

But in his letter to Union Water Resources Minister, Pawan Kumar Bansal, dated July 30 2012, Mr Gadkari, in a direct opposite stance to his party, defends the state government delays, saying "The Chairman CWC New Delhi too inspected the works mentioned in the complaints freshly made, carried no base."

Mr Gadkari claims he is acting in these interests of Vidarbha region, which will benefit from water from the project.

But is Mr Gadkari interested in Vidarbha, or unpaid private contractors?

In his letter, he urges the Centre to release Rs. 400 crores to the contractors of the project saying "Due to non-payment of their dues the contractors stop their works. This may delay the programme and would also result in time overrun and delays in creation of irrigation potential."

The prominent contractors of the project are BJP RS MP Ajay Sancheti, whose company SMS Infrastructure has got crores of rupees of contracts for the project. Mr Gadkari has in the past denied business links to Mr Sancheti, threatening to file a lawsuit against Congress leader Digvijaya Singh for alleging the same.

Another contractor with BJP links on the project is Mitesh Bhangdia, whose companies M.G Bhangdia and Mahendra Construction have also got contracts for the dam
 
halaki FDI pe ek separate thread chal ruha hai... but agar jikar cheed hi diya hai to... mai ye kehna chauga ki FDI pe kisi ko aapatti nahi hai... Delhi Metro, FDI ke karan suru hui... gujarat ka development FDI ke dam pe hua...

problem to bina kisi conditions ke bahar ke logo ka paisa lagwa dene se hai... aapne ek bar ye baat sochi ki jab govt ne FDI in retail purpose ki tab FDI in aviation bhi purpose ki thi... uska virodh kisi ne nahi kya abhi tak... sab FDI retail ka hi virodh kyon kar ruhe hain???

swaich said:
All things said and done, I find BJP's opposition to FDI or previously the nuclear deal extremely opportunistic. They are claimed to be different than other political parties especially the Congress, but there behavior in these two issues has hardly been any different. They were the ones to originally partially open up the agricultural sectors and in fact BJP ruled states like Gujarat and Punjab have the most number of Wal-Mart (wholesale) operations where farmers directly sell produce to companies. Even now the Akali-BJP combine in Punjab has welcomed the FDI policy change.

Same goes for the Indo-US nuclear deal. BJP were the original nuclear strategy makers and many sources commented on Brajesh Mishra and Vajpayee's back room dealings with Bush in his first term as responsible for the nuclear deal, later signed during UPA-I. Still the BJP sided with CPI and other leftists in ignoring the practical and long term benefits of the deal and instead beat the "sold the country to foreigners" drum.

The opposition to nuclear deal can still be understood as done due to political compulsions and the fact that as is the fashion in Indian democracy, the opposition has to always - Oppose. But the opposition to FDI in retail seems more like BJP is being pulled by its Bania votebank. The Bania and other middlemen often skim hefty margins off farmer produce and thus stand to lose the most from any direct foreign involvement in agriculture. So while they gain, the farmer and the consumer loses. I hope BJP doesnt fall to this 'pull' and when it comes to power next term with its allies (as the popular trends suggest, though one can never say) doesn't reverse the FDI reforms. They should be able to stand up and support a good decision, however belated it may be or at least firm by their previous stand.
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Bhai apne yahan likhne se kuch nahi hone wala..ye to buss discussion hai.. Mere hisab se corruption ek dum se nahi hatt sakti aur na hi draconian laws se(Jaisa ki Anna aur uski Team claim karti hai). Lokpal vokpal se bhi kuch nahi hone wala.

Meri opinion ke according to corruption ko hatane ke bahut jayada kaam chahiye sarkaar ke kaam kaaj mei..usme "Continuous" change chahiye time ke according.. Jo ki Indian bureaucracy mei absent hai almost. Bina wo culture aaye, mughe nahi lagta shayad corruption kabhi kahatm hogi India se..

Aap chahe Lokapl se bhi bada ombudsman bana lena..Uska koi use nahi hai bina Continuous changes ke government ke kaam kaaj mei. Ye ek culture bhi hoti government ke kaam kaaj mei..Jo bharatiye Sarkaari kamkaaj mei abhi exist nahi karti..aane wale time mei..May be agle 50-100 saal mei kuch changes ho jaaye..but abhi to aisa kuch nahi dikhayi de raha hai.
sanjeev1984 said:
thanks for sharing the info bhai... as i already said... agar ye halwai jaisi shakal ka involve mil to... dono bhai yahin, isi thread pe aade hato lege isko...
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yahi to mai bol ruha hu bhai...

atishmohan said:
Bhai apne yahan likhne se kuch nahi hone wala..ye to buss discussion hai.. Mere hisab se corruption ek dum se nahi hatt sakti aur na hi draconian laws se(Jaisa ki Anna aur uski Team claim karti hai). Lokpal vokpal se bhi kuch nahi hone wala.

Meri opinion ke according to corruption ko hatane ke bahut jayada kaam chahiye sarkaar ke kaam kaaj mei..usme "Continuous" change chahiye time ke according.. Jo ki Indian bureaucracy mei absent hai almost. Bina wo culture aaye, mughe nahi lagta shayad corruption kabhi kahatm hogi India se..

Aap chahe Lokapl se bhi bada ombudsman bana lena..Uska koi use nahi hai bina Continuous changes ke government ke kaam kaaj mei. Ye ek culture bhi hoti government ke kaam kaaj mei..Jo bharatiye Sarkaari kamkaaj mei abhi exist nahi karti..aane wale time mei..May be agle 50-100 saal mei kuch changes ho jaaye..but abhi to aisa kam hi dikhayi de raha hai.
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sanjeev1984 said:
halaki FDI pe ek separate thread chal ruha hai... but agar jikar cheed hi diya hai to... mai ye kehna chauga ki FDI pe kisi ko aapatti nahi hai... Delhi Metro, FDI ke karan suru hui... gujarat ka development FDI ke dam pe hua...

problem to bina kisi conditions ke bahar ke logo ka paisa lagwa dene se hai... aapne ek bar ye baat sochi ki jab govt ne FDI in retail purpose ki tab FDI in aviation bhi purpose ki thi... uska virodh kisi ne nahi kya abhi tak... sab FDI retail ka hi virodh kyon kar ruhe hain???
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Bhai, I provided the reasons in my earlier post itself. Due to simple political opportunism and Bania power! Farmers are already selling to companies like Pepsico and other domestic players. All domestic players like Bharti, Aditya Birla, Big Bazar, Reliance are already buying directly from farmers. We havent seen any dharna anywhere from farmers. There's no reason why FDI in retail can be unhelpful for the farmers. But as I said, BJP is trying to serve a votebank and playing the role of opposition.
 
:) political oppurtunism ke karan... sahi hai... kyon ki kisi bhi system mai goverment ka koi galat step, opposition ke liye political opportunity hi hogi... kuch or nahi...

vote bank... sorry, not agree my dear brother...

farmers already selling their produce to domestic players : already discussed in detail by Vivek aka tarzon in thread related to FDI, and i agree with most of his posts... for ref "http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?34942-Reality-of-FDI-beyond-politics"

swaich said:
Bhai, I provided the reasons in my earlier post itself. Due to simple political opportunism and Bania power! Farmers are already selling to companies like Pepsico and other domestic players. All domestic players like Bharti, Aditya Birla, Big Bazar, Reliance are already buying directly from farmers. We havent seen any dharna anywhere from farmers. There's no reason why FDI in retail can be unhelpful for the farmers. But as I said, BJP is trying to serve a votebank and playing the role of opposition.
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