Corex, Rexcof and other Medicines...Spoiling Country's Future

rajninarwal said:
@Karminder Ji....I know a lot of youngsters who are consuming these drugs.I will give some examples here. We would come to know, how these drugs are affecting country, society, youngsters and lives.
I know a fellow who is an addict to Corex and Rexcof. Its been more than 7 years now. As per him he is consuming 6-7 bottles a day. If by any chance he doesn't get to have it, he feels like sleeping the entire day. His hands tremble. He hurts himself and weeps a lot. Feel like committing suicide. There were a few unsuccessful attempts. He says that there is a guilt over me of being a thief at my own house at times.He is an highly educated guy but due to this addiction can't do a job. Is married and has kids.In all life for him and his family is hell. He is been sent to a rehabilitation center.
Give your suggestion on how can we help such youngsters to get rid of this hell..Would they be able to live a normal life ever?
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i think ur friend has physical dependence to codeine.

there are sm drugs that produce psychological dependence only like nicotine,caffeine... like in villages sm of old age ppl hv psychological addiction to "tea" bt if u will not gv them tea even for 3-4 days they will not suffer any withdrawl symptoms..other than yellling at u...:)
BT CODIENE ND MORHIN DEFINITELY PRODUCE PHYSICAL DEPEDENCE..in which that drug should continously be present in blood of addict.

wtever symtomps that u r telling: crying,weeping,headache nd most common loose motion ,are known as "withdrawl symptoms" that i mentioned in earlier post..


the method used is known as "detox"..there are home detox methods also with drug"suboxone"that is given to patient in place of codeine nd then tapered the dose slowly to stop taking suboxone...bt difficullty is tht patient does not know hw to taper the dose in home detox method...so u hv to take professional help..i m writing a address of rehabilitaion institute u can contact them:

"HOPE AND TRUST" rehabilitation and research center for drug abuse,banjara hills hyderabad.

contact no.- 04023396339..mob-08374601855 ,fax - 23302230
 
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why doesn’t health ministry/Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) come up with effective vaccines, against the strains prevalent locally for common flu, viral fever and other tropical disease. Are they waiting for WHO or red-cross to come forward and do their part of job?


urmiladuhan said:
urmiladuhan said:
I think most infections can be prevented by keeping good hygiene such as:
wash hands often, avoid touching your face as much as possible, avoid crowds etc. The dependence on medicine can thus be much reduced.
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Youth addicted to medicated liquor in Punjab, Haryana
punjab and haryana youth have become addicted of new brand of liqur called medicated liquor
Wed, Aug 25, 2010 15:51:23 IST
EVER HEARD of medicated liquor. Sounds unbelievable as liquor is either country liquor or Indian made foreign liquor or spurious liquor called hooch in local parlance. But reports from Punjab and Haryana states have revealed that a large number of people particularly the youth, college and university going students are using cough syrup to mix it with liquor for getting additional kick.

This concoction is is cheaper as compared to other brands of liquor and it gives more and immediate kick . The sale of cough syrup has increased manifold during the last for and five years. Early morning walkers in public parks finds large number of empty bottles of syrup littered here and there.

In rural area of Punjab, even chemists turn their shops into Ahatas in the evening putting Charpais in front of their shops, where one can have this mixed brand of liquor and relax. Although a scheduled drugs which can only be sold by a licenced chemist on the prescription of a qualified doctor or stored by alicenced chemist, but the cough syrup is easily available even at roadside dhabas.

Health authorities of Haryana have conducted raids at several places and have recovered large quantity of unaccounted syrup bottles. Cough syrup for dry cough prescribed by the doctors is available in the market under several brand names. Although the cough syrup is for the treatment of dry cough but it is being used for purposes other than the treatment.

Companies are making huge profit, wholesalers and retailers are making huge profit while humanity is suffering. Addicted people loose stamina for work and some of them even resort to crime.

The raw material for preparing codein the main ingredients in such syrups which gives kick is not available in open market.It is available at select places and is iven to the manufacturers against the permit issued by the Narcotic Control Bureau.

Earlier, the permits for Codein were being issued by the drug controllers of the respective states. Narcotic Control Bureau has fixed the quota for states. But the issue of permits of more quantity than the sanctioned limit by Maharashtra authorities led to the withdrawal of powers of issuing permits from the drug controllers of the respective states.

Now, the permits are issued by the Narcotic Control Bureau . A particular multinational Pharma company manufacturing the dry cough syrup has a virtual monopoly in the field. But tempted by its sale more than a dozen players have also joined the fray.
The retailer gets this syrup at a highly subsidized rate from the companies. The syrups being scheduled - H drugs can be sold only on the prescription of a qualified doctor. The companeis have also displayed warning on the bottles stating that being scheduled - H drug they can only be sold on the prescription of a qualified doctor.

Now, the million dollar question is that when cough syrups can be sold only on the prescription of a qualified doctor, then how it is being sold in the market by the chemists to drug addicts. Investigations by this scribe revealed that the companies or the wholeasalers sell the syrup in bulk quantity in the name of non existent or fictitious firms to avoid action by the drug controlling authorities.

G.L..Singla, Assistant Drug Controller of Haryana told that on a tip off they conducted raid at a chemist shop at Ambala and seized as many as three thousands bottles of Rexcof, which were not billed raising the suspicion that they will be used for the purpose other than for the treatment of the dry cough. Similarly, a Chandigarh based firm has sold these syrups amounting to Rs sixty lakhs to a non-existent firm of Ratia in Haryana .

Alarmed over the practice, Ashok Singla,.General-Secretary of Haryana Chemists and Drugists Association has appealed to fellow chemists to keep only limited stock of such medicines. Describing intoxication as a social evil ,Singla has advised the members of the Association to sell such drugs only on the prescription of a doctor.

This malady is not confined only to the cough syrups, several injections and tablets are also being used for intoxication purpose. Buprenorphine injection which is normally given during minor operations or in case of acute stomach pain is used for a kick. Sleeping tablets Alprax or Hypotrex popularly known as tablet of ten number and Diazepam is also used for intoxication. Lomotil used for the treatment of lose motions also serve the same purpose.
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Codeine is being used not only in cough syrups but in some pain-killers also (tablets for relief from headache etc.). It is an addictive and harmful drug, use of which should be allowed by the government for life-saving drugs only. But the drug and pharmaceutical mafia is able to seek permission by giving hefty bribes to the medical and health authorities in government. This is prevalent not only in India but many countries, especially in developing and undeveloped countries. The countries like US are very stringent about use of codeine in medicines. For example, the American schools (in America and abroad) give a random drug test to the students in schools and if any of the students is found positive with codeine or any other drug substance, even carried through medication, is expelled from the school. In India also the schools must introduce this kind of tests. It is a good topic and will certainly spread some awareness.
 
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@Vijay Pal Singh Ji....Sir, It can actually help as drug addiction mostly starts in school days..especially starting 8th standard I believe....
 
वी पी सिंह जी,
यो वैक्सीन आला सौदा बी बतइयो कीमे. जाड्या मै खांसी-जुखाम, गर्मिया में दस्त, चौमासा मै बुखार, दुखी कर ले सै जनता नै. और आये साल का योहे सांग.
खांसी-जुखाम होण तै इ रोकण की कोशिस करो. फेर दवाइया (कोडिन) की आपे जरूत कम रह ज्यागी.


vpsingh said:
Codeine is being used not only in cough syrups but in some pain-killers also (tablets for relief from headache etc.). It is an addictive and harmful drug, use of which should be allowed by the government for life-saving drugs only. But the drug and pharmaceutical mafia is able to seek permission by giving hefty bribes to the medical and health authorities in government. This is prevalent not only in India but many countries, especially in developing and undeveloped countries. The countries like US are very stringent about use of codeine in medicines. For example, the American schools (in America and abroad) give a random drug test to the students in schools and if any of the students is found positive with codeine or any other drug substance, even carried through medication, is expelled from the school. In India also the schools must introduce this kind of tests. It is a good topic and will certainly spread some awareness.
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deshi-jat said:
Dr Saab, synthetic version of codeine are like Hydro- or Oxy- codone. Does this hydro or oxy make difference in potency?
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definitely oxycodone is a more potent analgesic(painkiller) than hydrocodone...

formulations that contain oxycodon as basic drug are stronger in action then containing hydrocodone...

nd has got high addiction potential than hydro.

codeine is definitely milder than oxy and hydro derivatives..
 
vpsingh said:
Codeine is being used not only in cough syrups but in some pain-killers also (tablets for relief from headache etc.). It is an addictive and harmful drug, use of which should be allowed by the government for life-saving drugs only. But the drug and pharmaceutical mafia is able to seek permission by giving hefty bribes to the medical and health authorities in government. This is prevalent not only in India but many countries, especially in developing and undeveloped countries. The countries like US are very stringent about use of codeine in medicines. For example, the American schools (in America and abroad) give a random drug test to the students in schools and if any of the students is found positive with codeine or any other drug substance, even carried through medication, is expelled from the school. In India also the schools must introduce this kind of tests. It is a good topic and will certainly spread some awareness.
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"if a teenager or young boy is reporting having recurrent constipation despite having no signs of any illness in maximum cases is an addict of cough syrup( codeine) or morphine..."

these symptoms can also be used to identify the addict..
 
deshi-jat said:
वी पी सिंह जी,
यो वैक्सीन आला सौदा बी बतइयो कीमे. जाड्या मै खांसी-जुखाम, गर्मिया में दस्त, चौमासा मै बुखार, दुखी कर ले सै जनता नै. और आये साल का योहे सांग.
खांसी-जुखाम होण तै इ रोकण की कोशिस करो. फेर दवाइया (कोडिन) की आपे जरूत कम रह ज्यागी.
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हा...हा... हा.... हा ... कृष्ण इसका तोड़ तो डाक्टर करमिंदर ऐ बता सकै सै I यह जरूर आपकी पोस्ट पढ़ के तावले कोए online इलाज़ बतावेंगे
 
drkarminder said:
"if a teenager or young boy is reporting having recurrent constipation despite having no signs of any illness in maximum cases is an addict of cough syrup( codeine) or morphine..."

these symptoms can also be used to identify the addict..
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Indeed very useful information Dr. Sahb, Thanks
 
deshi-jat said:
why doesn’t health ministry/Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) come up with effective vaccines, against the strains prevalent locally for common flu, viral fever and other tropical disease. Are they waiting for WHO or red-cross to come forward and do their part of job?

perhaps the govt doesn't have the vaccines. remember, most vaccines in the past too have been developed in the west.
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Thanks Dr Karminder ji. One more question. Based on your experience/patients report, are these analgesic more effective or LONG (clove) for toothache. I heard that LONG has some oil which works as analgesic as well as bacteriocide/antiseptic. Is it just a myth or fact about LONG?

drkarminder said:
definitely oxycodone is a more potent analgesic(painkiller) than hydrocodone...

formulations that contain oxycodon as basic drug are stronger in action then containing hydrocodone...

nd has got high addiction potential than hydro.

codeine is definitely milder than oxy and hydro derivatives..
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vpsingh said:
हा...हा... हा.... हा ... कृष्ण इसका तोड़ तो डाक्टर करमिंदर ऐ बता सकै सै I यह जरूर आपकी पोस्ट पढ़ के तावले कोए online इलाज़ बतावेंगे
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..vaccine is reqired for fatal diseases krishan ji....not for fever,cough,loose motion..(these are illness not disease)

..these are self limiting diseases nd very easy to treat, dont require vaccines nd are not lethal...
...diseases like hepatitis,T.B, tetanus(past time) claim very large no. of deaths nd are difficult to cure nd diseases like polio make the a child handicapped even if its not lethal..

so ,vaccine developement focus at diseases that are either fatal nd dont respond to treatement nd that hamper the patient physically..

I MEAN TO SAY IT CAN BE DONE, BT IS NOT REQUIRED BECOZ SM OTHER DISEASES REQUIRE MORE FOCUS THAN THESE ILLNESS..
 
deshi-jat said:
Thanks Dr Karminder ji. One more question. Based on your experience/patients report, are these analgesic more effective or LONG (clove) for toothache. I heard that LONG has some oil which works as analgesic as well as bacteriocide/antiseptic. Is it just a myth or fact about LONG?
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Kindly allow me to join.

Eugenol is an anaesthetic found in cloves. Is cytotoxic at high concentrations.
 
deshi-jat said:
Thanks Dr Karminder ji. One more question. Based on your experience/patients report, are these analgesic more effective or LONG (clove) for toothache. I heard that LONG has some oil which works as analgesic as well as bacteriocide/antiseptic. Is it just a myth or fact about LONG?
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LONG(clove oil) contains EUGENOL as basic constituent..

eugenol is very soothing to pulp( source of toothache)..it reduces inflammation of pulp nd give u symptomatic relief for sometime.

bt it is mild irritating..if touch wd bare hands, produce irritation..

eugenol is main ingredients of many dental medicines like ..Z.O.E -zinc oxide eugenol.

so, if u fill the offending tooth wd LONG OIL ,it will give temporary relief (home remedy for toothache).

bt definitely painkillers are far better than clove oil.
 
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urmiladuhan said:
Kindly allow me to join.

Eugenol is an anaesthetic found in cloves. Is cytotoxic at high concentrations.
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nice to hear from u, urmila ji...infact we all should hv sm basic knowledge of medicine..

in foreign countries basic education of sm life saving measures is given at school age..like how to give artificial respiration to an unconcious person,hw to lift an injured person in accidents, wt to follow in poisoning cases etc.

bt in india its not included in school education..
 
डॉ कर्मैन्द्र जी,
या तो बहोत अच्छी जानकारी दी आपने. आप ज्ञान तै सारा md वाला भी ले रहे सो! मै तै न्यू कहू था अक गंभीर बिमारिया के टीके तै बण लिए/उपलब्ध सै, उनमे तै कुछ सुधार की हे जरूरत रह रही होगी मेरे ख्याल तै तो? सुणा सै कै अमरिका मै कुछ संस्थान सै fda/nih वे जमा बीमारिया का तौड़ पाड़-पाड़ कै सुए/दवाई बणाया करै इलाज के भी आर बचाव के भी.

म्हारे अडै भी इसे ढ़ाळ संस्थान बताये icmr/csir आदि. आपने नै तो जरूर बेरा होगा इसी चीज्या का. मक़ा वे ठाली बैठे कीमे इसी चीज़ बना दे आर 10-20 रुपिया मै बेच दे तो जनता का कीमे भला हो ज्या. ये डाक्टर टीवी पै आ कै कह गे अक बचाव करना चाहिए, इब स्कूल/कोलेज, बस, दफ्तर मै माणस कितना के बचाव कर ले? भाई मै चिकित्सा क्षेत्र का माणस तै सु कौन्या, कदे आप घणे विस्तार मै चले जाओ ना.
पर भाई ये मौसमी बीमारी बेरा ना कितणे का नुक्सान करती होंगी. माणस नै काम छोड़ना पडै, दुःख पावै, और डाक्टर दवाईया का खर्चा अलग तै.

drkarminder said:
..vaccine is reqired for fatal diseases krishan ji....not for fever,cough,loose motion..(these are illness not disease)

..these are self limiting diseases nd very easy to treat, dont require vaccines nd are not lethal...
...diseases like hepatitis,t.b, tetanus(past time) claim very large no. Of deaths nd are difficult to cure nd diseases like polio make the a child handicapped even if its not lethal..

So ,vaccine developement focus at diseases that are either fatal nd dont respond to treatement nd that hamper the patient physically..

I mean to say it can be done, bt is not required becoz sm other diseases require more focus than these illness..
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