Dark side of Hooda CM Haryana

[jasbirhooda]

I fully agree with you

And above all ,we should introspect and see whether we have solved our personal problems or not(certainly we can find a lot of unsolved personal problems ,it will be usefull to us to concentrate on them ),before judging others.
Yes we have right to judge him as a politician.

We might have talked about his plans,success ,failours as a political leader.
I have seen only personal comments on him and not as a political leader even from the opposition.
You know what does it means?

oh. This is not such a public forum. So why don't you people let us know what happened, i mean what you think happened.

Such a rich and influencial family. Guy in US. Father in Law Haryana CM. This seems such a stupid story. I don't believe this family would ask for a Car. They were CM material. Even some big panwari has a car these days.

 

[shailendra]

Is it really discussing a relevant issue in a fair way?

I don't think the very premise of the discussion was to 'discuss' anything fairly in the first place now, was it?...like some of us are now very conveniently quoting ("we should not be ever shy of discussing our political leaders")... What kind of fair and open discussion can one hope to have when the title of a post itself starts by reading-'The Dark Side of...' ???

Well, it might just be me but the title actually seems to be in bad taste and already passing judgment on an issue apparently no one (including me) yet really knows the truth fully well about!

 

[rohittewatia]

Dear dudi,
Lagta hai CM ney kuuch karra hoh yah nah karra hoh...per tanne toh rajendra unclejee key latte fadne haiin.

Jio aur jeene doh.

 

[raj2rif]

I don't think the very premise of the discussion was to 'discuss' anything fairly in the first place now, was it?...like some of us are now very conveniently quoting ("we should not be ever shy of discussing our political leaders")... What kind of fair and open discussion can one hope to have when the title of a post itself starts by reading-'The Dark Side of...' ???

Well, it might just be me but the title actually seems to be in bad taste and already passing judgment on an issue apparently no one (including me) yet really knows the truth fully well about!

Absolutely Shailendra, no one knows the truth, but does that mean an issue can't be discussed? How much truth the civilization knows about Gandhi or for that matter any other public figure? Most of the knowledge people have is what had been published in media. Yet on this very forum people not only have discussed the personality and but also passed the judgements. We don't care about those discussions just because the personality does not belong to our community.

What I have tried to convey in my post is that it is just the beginning, and Mr. Hooda may have to face many more allegations as he prospers in his political career. Further, Mr. Hooda is now the CM of a State and thus would be under a microscopic observation and so would be those who are closely associated with him. As a community we need not do any thing that harms him, for he seems to be doing a good job (at least that is what has been conveyed on this site by the people who are actually living in the state of Haryana). This is a good thing and all you know we may have a PM in making. But should that mean that there should be no discussions on some issues. I would rather discuss the CM of Haryana than a person, for that is more important for the state and the nation.

Dowry is a social evil we all know it. And to me that is more important to discuss here. Mr. Hooda happens to be the CM of the state and thus needs to set an example to his people by coming out absolutely clean against these allegations. How he does that, we can only wait and watch.

 

[pup030]

Things political suck in Haryana, less said the better.

Hi,

I don't see any wise reason to raise this topic.

After all it is Mr Hooda's Personal problem. Nothing to link it with his Acievements.He is going great for people of haryana and doing a good job.

Thats why people of haryana elected him with overwhelming majority.

Regards
Jitender

Hi All,

Would it not be nice once and for all to keep things political out of this platform we have in the form of jatland.com. Besides, no matter what your political affliations are but if your look deep inside and far around you dispassionately, each of us would realise that Haryana is one of the most corrupt states. Why so? Well, gone are the days of stalwarts like Sir Choturam and instead we have political pigmies and a citizenry whose blood has gone numb and hardly ever do we think beyond I, me and myself. Everything said and done my friends, we in Haryana may be a prosperous lot and so is the state of Haryana but we have lost and failed socially and politically. Its a great human resource failure where the essence of achievement is measured by the size of your bank balance and the car you drive.
I say all the above with authority as I am a practicing lawyer and each day I see the suffering of the masses and that moves me to think beyond the usual.

The recent brutal police atrocities at Gurgaon on 25,26 July 2005 and still continuing is again a stark reminder of the truth which we all casually try to brush under the carpet. I for one in my own sphere and expertise have extended Pro bono legal aid (thats free of cost legal services) to all and any of the persons affected during the said incidents of human rights violations by Haryana Police. How could we keep mum and quiet just viewing those images passively on the Television and still call ourselves a proud people. Pun intended. Can we call ourselves a civilised and a democratic and just society? Ponder about it for a moment.

Whats really happening in Haryana and for that matter in the entire country is that we collect the garbage and filth from around the state/country, place them in the Legislative assembly/parliament and expect them to do a great job for us all. Wishful thinking, isn't it. Why are we so stupid and ignorant or do we just do not care?

Best of luck to all and hail the motherland.

Wake up my friends.

 

[dhruvdahiya]

How true

Hi All,

Would it not be nice once and for all to keep things political out of this platform we have in the form of jatland.com. Besides, no matter what your political affliations are but if your look deep inside and far around you dispassionately, each of us would realise that Haryana is one of the most corrupt states. Why so? Well, gone are the days of stalwarts like Sir Choturam and instead we have political pigmies and a citizenry whose blood has gone numb and hardly ever do we think beyond I, me and myself. Everything said and done my friends, we in Haryana may be a prosperous lot and so is the state of Haryana but we have lost and failed socially and politically. Its a great human resource failure where the essence of achievement is measured by the size of your bank balance and the car you drive.
I say all the above with authority as I am a practicing lawyer and each day I see the suffering of the masses and that moves me to think beyond the usual.

The recent brutal police atrocities at Gurgaon on 25,26 July 2005 and still continuing is again a stark reminder of the truth which we all casually try to brush under the carpet. I for one in my own sphere and expertise have extended Pro bono legal aid (thats free of cost legal services) to all and any of the persons affected during the said incidents of human rights violations by Haryana Police. How could we keep mum and quiet just viewing those images passively on the Television and still call ourselves a proud people. Pun intended. Can we call ourselves a civilised and a democratic and just society? Ponder about it for a moment.

Whats really happening in Haryana and for that matter in the entire country is that we collect the garbage and filth from around the state/country, place them in the Legislative assembly/parliament and expect them to do a great job for us all. Wishful thinking, isn't it. Why are we so stupid and ignorant or do we just do not care?

Best of luck to all and hail the motherland.

Wake up my friends.

Well said uncle ji.....what you said is really true of present times.





Due respect

 

[pup030]

Like begets like

Tavathia Sahab,

Points well taken. We all know that Dowry is a social evil and present CM is as against this evil as we all are. There are no two views about it. However, is this forum competent to comment on present individual case without knowing the facts? Can we hold a court here to prosecute some one without knowing the ABC of case? We all know how every case of divorce in India has a side case on dowry as well. Lawyers exploit loopholes in our laws to harass people. Moreover, this thread has not been started to discuss dowry as a social evil. The thread has been initiated in rather bad taste.

Rajendra

Dear RK,

Your experience must have certainly taught you that it takes all sorts to make this world. I am hurt by your stating that lawyers exploit loopholes in our laws to harass people. Well, like begets like they say. Most litigants approach lawyers to find quick fix ways to find solutions to their legal problems even if it means bribing the police or judicial authorities willing to bite the bait. The another way out for the litigants is to find a lawyer who is hardworking and can slog it out in the court through sheer focus and preparation of the case, but this path is longish and the litigants want to cut corners thereby giving an opportunity to lawyers and others to encash on the circumstances and facts in a given situation. So, who is to blame, the lawyers falling prey to human weaknesses or the litigants wanting quick fix remedies. I would say it is the Litigants who not only do disservice to themselves but to the entire system.

 

[raj2rif]

Dear RK,

Your experience must have certainly taught you that it takes all sorts to make this world. I am hurt by your stating that lawyers exploit loopholes in our laws to harass people. Well, like begets like they say. Most litigants approach lawyers to find quick fix ways to find solutions to their legal problems even if it means bribing the police or judicial authorities willing to bite the bait. The another way out for the litigants is to find a lawyer who is hardworking and can slog it out in the court through sheer focus and preparation of the case, but this path is longish and the litigants want to cut corners thereby giving an opportunity to lawyers and others to encash on the circumstances and facts in a given situation. So, who is to blame, the lawyers falling prey to human weaknesses or the litigants wanting quick fix remedies. I would say it is the Litigants who not only do disservice to themselves but to the entire system.

Dear Mr. Phougat,
I agree with you. However both parties are to be blamed. The attorneys are human beings too, but then they are the protectors of the law. I can never forget the first week of August 98, when I was the witness to a bar association election in one of the town in UP. The free liquor served by the candidate, found most voters (in this case distinguised protectors of the law) lying intoxicated and few of them in gutter. I felt so disturbed to see them in that condition. What I am trying to state here is that, while litigants are to be blamed as much as the attorney, they being more educated and protectors of the law probably have to bear more responsibility. Similarly the officials can't get away with the statement like "I did not know". I always questioned officers and rank holders, that if they did not know the thing that was as much harmful as doing a wrong thing. If some one is in a position where he/she is to deliver public service, he/she better know his/her job. We the fortunate educated people have a little larger responsibility towards the society and nation.

 

[mrsashima]

we pray for good to both of families. these two families or court will decide the action.

 

[sumitsehrawat]

Tavathia Sahab,

Points well taken. We all know that Dowry is a social evil and present CM is as against this evil as we all are. There are no two views about it. However, is this forum competent to comment on present individual case without knowing the facts? Can we hold a court here to prosecute some one without knowing the ABC of case? We all know how every case of divorce in India has a side case on dowry as well. Lawyers exploit loopholes in our laws to harass people. Moreover, this thread has not been started to discuss dowry as a social evil. The thread has been initiated in rather bad taste.

Rajendra

Rajendraji,

I think you being close to Mr Hooda have taken this too seriously.
I read Dudi's post and did not find anything wrong in it. He was just giving reference to a couple of links. If you, being close to Mr.Hooda, have any problems with the material written on that link then you could have questioned www.tribuneindia.com and not Dudi.

I don't know what is truth and what is not, but one thing is for sure that these articles either have a true side or a false one. If you think it was absurd then you could have tried to contact www.tribuneindia.com and not blamed Dudi for it entirely, after all its not just Dudi but many others (including me) who would feel the way Dudi felt. So much of influence these newspaper articles have on us.

People have freedom of speech to express themselves. Dudi read it ...got moved ....posted on Jatland. Period.

"Can we hold a court here to prosecute some one without knowing the ABC of case?"
You seem to a bit agitated Sir. Why not prosecute the website www.tribuneindia.com???

"The thread has been initiated in rather bad taste."
I am not sure of the thread but yes if its been wrongly put then www.tribuneindia.com is to be blamed. Isn't it???

Thread is visible to only Jatland.com members but the article on the site is visible to everybody.

Let us do 'root cause' analysis.

regards,
$umit

 

[dhandars]

discussion going nowhere...

dear all,

it seems that this thread is approaching nowhere....except blaming and couterblaming...
i will propose to terminate this thread as our community have other hell lot of important issues to discuss then discussing a single particulare dowery case...

best wishes
dhanda (sweden)
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Chora Jaat ka!

 

[karans]

dear all,

it seems that this thread is approaching nowhere....except blaming and couterblaming...
i will propose to terminate this thread as our community have other hell lot of important issues to discuss then discussing a single particulare dowery case...

best wishes
dhanda (sweden)
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Chora Jaat ka!

bhai fer jat kaun kahega hume agar yunhi chipte na rahe hum behuddi battan me. mahre karam hi khotte sen. kam ki bat kam karan sen aur bekar ki jiyde.

Karan