Definition of being JAT

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Sunil ,Ravinder to dharam sankat me fass gaya ,le main hi bata deta hun .

Famous Dharba kalaan village is one such village .But they leave three or four clans in such marriages.

Thanx Narender Bhai Saab for the information !

Let me clarify it in a better way.

That guy doesn't belongs to Darba Kalaan Villege originally, he is residing there on his Nana's property and lands only.

And yes, they avoided four gotras including Father, Mother, Dadi and Nani.

Now, let me know what's wrong, immoral aur illegal in that ?
 
Good to know your thoughts...

Dhillon, in my very first thread, I have mentioned 5th point which similarizes your point - your thoughts plz.

And phark padta he ki nhi - thats what I 'looked for' through this thread -

Point is "Definition of being Jat", is it a "Debatable discussion or not" given so many other areas which need attention and must be addressed at priority; just for example "Sex education" - another thread running our here at JL.

kisi cheez se koi farak nahi padta , asli Jat vohi hai jisme jigar ho ar jo sar utha ke jiye. baki tai baat maran ki baat sai, sir name ho jatta aala ar dil ho chue barga tai Jat konya.
Jat is synonymous of Bravery, fairness and self esteem.
 
Narender ji and Vijay, thnx for the updated stuff!!

Is Darba Kalaan a proper village or Kasba, kayee gaon etne bade-2 ya phir paane etne badde hen ki unme do-2 pachanyate hen arr aise gaon me dusre paane me kya ho rya he, shayad kam hi kuchh khoj khabar rahti ho.


Thanx Narender Bhai Saab for the information !

Let me clarify it in a better way.

That guy doesn't belongs to Darba Kalaan Villege originally, he is residing there on his Nana's property and lands only.

And yes, they avoided four gotras including Father, Mother, Dadi and Nani.

Now, let me know what's wrong, immoral aur illegal in that ?

Sunil ,Ravinder to dharam sankat me fass gaya ,le main hi bata deta hun .

Famous Dharba kalaan village is one such village .But they leave three or four clans in such marriages.
 
DD ji's personal/social thoughts and not copy/paste literature...

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Deswal sahab shukriya about letting us to know about literal meaning of JAT word and "aura n pronunciation" stuff in details...

No doubt, compiling data from literature also involves efforts which you have indeed put-in, quite commendable. Hats-off to your knowledge.

Looking forward for your wise thoughts about "Being JAT" now - in fast changing time and in global context, carrying it forward to next generations, preserving identity...

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’ज्ञ’ एक संयुक्त अक्षर है जो ज + ञ से बना है । जब हम "ज्ञान" बोलते हैं तो उसे ’ज्यांन’ (jyaan) उच्चारण करना चाहिये । परन्तु हिन्दी में हम आम तौर पर ’ग्यान’ (gyan) बोलते हैं । इसी प्रकार "यज्ञ" को "यज्यं" बोलना चाहिये पर आजकल सब "यग्य’ (yagya) बोलते हैं जो कि संस्कृत में अशुद्ध उच्चारण माना जायेगा ।

वैसे दक्षिण भारतीय इस अक्षर (ज्ञ) का उच्चारण ठीक करते हैं । इसलिए ’यज्ञ’ को यज्यं (yajna) लिखते भी हैं ।

चूंकि, वर्ग च-छ-ज-झ-ञ का अन्तिम अक्षर ’ञ’ आजकल लुप्तप्राय हो चुका है, इसका प्रयोग कम हो गया है । जैसे "व्यञ्जन" को व्यंजन "प्रत्यञ्चा" को प्रत्यंचा और "पञ्चायत" को पंचायत लिखकर काम चला लेते हैं ।

महाभारत के पश्चात संस्कृत का प्रयोग कम होने लगा और कई प्रकार की प्राकृत भाषायें उभर कर सामने आईं । उनमें भी "ञ" अक्षर का प्रयोग कम होता गया ।

इसलिये "ज्ञात" में ज्ञ (ज + ञ) के स्थान पर "ज" रह गया और "त" की जगह "ट" ने ले ली और "जाट" शब्द प्रयोग होने लगा ।

"ज्ञाति" के स्थान पर "जाति" लिखा जाने लगा ।

यह मामला उच्चारण-स्थान का है जिसको सामने बैठकर, बोलकर समझाना आसान है, लिख कर समझाना जरा मुश्किल । पर उम्मीद है कि इस जटिलता को आप समझ जायेंगे ।

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Great stuff!!

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Sateypal ji, its quite comprehendable and sparking to one's thought process...great stuff, thank you very much for your contribution in thread's context.

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I asked some questions to myself before furthering my point of view.

What is the specific traits, qualities or advantages one has that makes an individual so special to be proud of?

What is more important, qualities, features and knowledge inherited from parents or the association with community from that parents come from?

What is that one would feel more proud of, to be the part of that social group or proud of the parents who are responsible of his or her existence?

Is jat community a model community that one should be proud of?

What and how an individual , born in a lower caste, say Harijan should feel about his origin? Would her or she be less proud of his or her parents?
Could or should a Harijan be proud to be part of that community?
Isn't the association of a Harijan to his community, the reason of low self esteem in most individuals!

After pondering upon these questions, I have come to the conclusion that feeling of proud to a group or community is external and thus superficial. I am sure, a jat from Maharashtra or MP would feel differently. Other factors, like language, culture etc. are not Jat specific but regions. Culturally, a Maharastrian Jat would be closer a Maharastrian Branman than even a MP Jat.
That is why, education and migration would have great effect on every individual , on every jat and thus change perception and thinking! Perception towards community would differ among people from village, smaller town and a metropolitan city!


Cheers!
 
Narender ji and Vijay, thnx for the updated stuff!!

Is Darba Kalaan a proper village or Kasba, kayee gaon etne bade-2 ya phir paane etne badde hen ki unme do-2 pachanyate hen arr aise gaon me dusre paane me kya ho rya he, shayad kam hi kuchh khoj khabar rahti ho.

Sunil,

Darba Kalaan is one of the most famous villege in Sirsa distt politically and due to some other reasons also. The villege have produced 4-5 Ex-MLA's including present MLA Mr. Bharat Singh Beniwal.

Another reason for being famous is the ancestral rivalary between two Beniwal familes of the same clan. More than 80 murders committed since last 40 years or so. That is the reason behind this type of marriage only .. like person residing on Nana's property, strengthening the manpower of own clan etc.
 
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