Difference between Israel and India!!

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dahiyarules said:
Do it at your own cost. Do not drag the entire country with your opinions.

People like you are called "armchair warriors." You guys shout propaganda sititng in an armchair while you expect others children to fulfill your desires of glory.

Form your own version of "mujahadeen" and attack whoever you want. But please do not use our nationality as your identity. It is your own personal crusade.
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Armchair warriors hi sahi
But i do have gutts to stand for my motherland, I am not serving austrailians.

We guyz shout propogandas while sitting in chair but atleast we dont serve other countries

We guyz shout from our homes to boost the morale of our army, we suffer the pain of everybomb blast or a terrorist activity.

And not only me, trust me every second indian youth is of an opinion to attack and let the war be eitherside..... Cause we havent learnt passive wars like pakistan and neither have we learnt to leave our motherland for lucrative money offers abroad..... :-)
 
dahiyarules said:
Do it at your own cost. Do not drag the entire country with your opinions.
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I dont know about you Mr.Dahiya(dahiyarules) but, if allowed, almost every INDIAN would have attacked Pakistan by now.Not only our Jawans but also civilians would love to die fighting against Pakistan.Its pretty surprising that you called it as a personal crusade.If I had a neighbour like Pakistan I would have definitely smacked his arse.Would you?
We have 3rd largest Army, 4th largest Air Force and 5th largest Navy in the world.But that seems useless when we see people dying like this.
I just want to say that the situation and people sitting on the top have made us 'Armchair Generals' otherwise no one want to be.Atleast I dont.
desijat said:
I am not serving austrailians.
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Just wondering how did Australia come in between?
 
vivekpannu said:
I dont know about you Mr.Dahiya(dahiyarules) but, if allowed, almost every INDIAN would have attacked Pakistan by now.Not only our Jawans but also civilians would love to die fighting against Pakistan.Its pretty surprising that you called it as a personal crusade.If I had a neighbour like Pakistan I would have definitely smacked his arse.Would you?
We have 3rd largest Army, 4th largest Air Force and 5th largest Navy in the world.But that seems useless when we see people dying like this.
I just want to say that the situation and people sitting on the top have made us 'Armchair Generals' otherwise no one want to be.Atleast I dont.
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This is exactly the kind of attitude that landed Germany in trouble during world war 2. This "stupid" feeling of nationalism is suicidal.

What is all this fanatacism for?

Why do we keep forgetting that there are people just like us who live on the other side of the border?

I am sure most of them leave their homes every morning to earn their bread and feed their families, just like us.

I am sure that they love their loved ones just like us.

And I am sure that they are "stupidly" nationalist just like us.

You know something, I do not have a problem with people being so "warlike" and "belligerent" if our politicians lead the charge everytime we were in a conflict. But, instead they prefer to hide in nuclear-proof bunkers and send their loved ones to safer places like "Italy." (No pun intended. hehehe)

This insanity has to stop. I really do not think that they must stop doing it before we do it. Let us make the beginnning. Lets start minding our own business and let them know that we are not interested in this "cat and mouse" game anymore.

By being nationalistic we do not serve our country. We serve our government. Let me share a fact with ya'll. Even if all of us were to die fighting Pakistan, the "dhotti-wale" wont even feel a slight pinch. I am sure they will readily give a speach condemning our neighbors.

We need to b more development oriented. We need to find ways to allocate our resources efficiently. The future belongs to those who live in strong economies.

Everytime I say this to anyone, North Korea comes to my mind. It is a communist regime run by a nutcase dictator. More than half the people are starving.

But that country has the world's third largest military (I am correcting you. It is not INdia. It is north Korea) But they got a world class misile and space program.

What for?
 
dahiyarules said:
Why do we keep forgetting that there are people just like us who live on the other side of the border?
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We will have to forget it one day, because we dont have people like you there to tell this to terrorists and ISI activists who are killing Indians......

Tell me how many mumbaikars u knew were involved into anti paki activities?

NONE ......

And to stop this killing of our innocent people we will have to take some action for our good sake

dahiyarules said:
And I am sure that they are "stupidly" nationalist just like us.
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Nationalism is never stupid, If one can not feel for the sake of his country, then he can not feel anything for anyone.

dahiyarules said:
Lets start minding our own business and let them know that we are not interested in this "cat and mouse" game anymore.
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EXACTLY!!!!!

We are not interested in cat and mouse game anymore, so we will not sit quietly if next time u attack us.... This is what we need to tell them

and if we dont, we shall always remain like a mouse

dahiyarules said:
By being nationalistic we do not serve our country. We serve our government.
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In a democracy, how is a government different from country?

Our Country runs the govt and govt runs the country.........

We pay tax to the govt to improve our society, It is govt who makes policy for the country .... Serving the govt is the 1st step to serve the country

dahiyarules said:
The future belongs to those who live in strong economies.
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I can see that, that is why we have some of our people working for other countries, but we forget to put in our efforts to make India a strong economy.

And tell me, America being a super economy, why did it invade Afghanistan and Iraq?
dahiyarules said:
But that country has the world's third largest military (I am correcting you. It is not INdia. It is north Korea) But they got a world class misile and space program.

What for?
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1st of All

India has the 4th LARGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD

And KOREA is 5th

China – 2,840,000
United States – 1,431,000
Russia – 1,200,000
India – 1,145,000
North Korea 1,055,000

Secondly
India in no matter is behind Korea in any mark of tech

And to ask you, we have 4th largest military in the world, what for?
To sit like a white elephant and see people attacking our country?
 
Ever heard of Patriotism?

dahiyarules said:
This is exactly the kind of attitude that landed Germany in trouble during world war 2. This "stupid" feeling of nationalism is suicidal.
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Ah well, first of all I would love to say that I am STUPID as per Mr.Dahiya and am proud of it.I have got a noble reason to die for.
And this is not Fanaticsm, this is something called Patriotism(I guess I've added a new word in your dictionary,huh?) .And I cant say about WW II because neither was I born at that time nor I am good at history and I dont want to know the reason anyway.
dahiyarules said:
Why do we keep forgetting that there are people just like us who live on the other side of the border?
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This is absolutely true that they are also human beings.Well Mr.Dahiya,Aliens dont come to earth for destruction.These are your human beings who wreck havoc.Why dont those human beings go by 'Live and let live'?Who asks them to kill other people?
dahiyarules said:
But that country has the world's third largest military (I am correcting you. It is not INdia. It is north Korea) But they got a world class misile and space program.
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Dont bother about correcting me.I got this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_active_troops , hope you might wanna have a look on this.If you can prove yours then I would say it could be a conflict of facts.N.Korea stands 5th there after Russia.
 
desijat said:
We will have to forget it one day, because we dont have people like you there to tell this to terrorists and ISI activists who are killing Indians......

Tell me how many mumbaikars u knew were involved into anti paki activities?

NONE ......

And to stop this killing of our innocent people we will have to take some action for our good sake



Nationalism is never stupid, If one can not feel for the sake of his country, then he can not feel anything for anyone.



EXACTLY!!!!!

We are not interested in cat and mouse game anymore, so we will not sit quietly if next time u attack us.... This is what we need to tell them

and if we dont, we shall always remain like a mouse


In a democracy, how is a government different from country?

Our Country runs the govt and govt runs the country.........

We pay tax to the govt to improve our society, It is govt who makes policy for the country .... Serving the govt is the 1st step to serve the country



I can see that, that is why we have some of our people working for other countries, but we forget to put in our efforts to make India a strong economy.

And tell me, America being a super economy, why did it invade Afghanistan and Iraq?


1st of All

India has the 4th LARGEST ARMY IN THE WORLD

And KOREA is 5th

China – 2,840,000
United States – 1,431,000
Russia – 1,200,000
India – 1,145,000
North Korea 1,055,000

Secondly
India in no matter is behind Korea in any mark of tech

And to ask you, we have 4th largest military in the world, what for?
To sit like a white elephant and see people attacking our country?
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Vikas Kindly don't be so unkind to our forces.......Defence forces can't attack oe retaliate without directions from our political bosses...So bhai don't think that defence forces are not capable......bol kis ki hawwa likkadwaani sei.
 
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devdahiya said:
Vikas Kindly don't be so unkind to our forces.......Defence forces can't attack oe retaliate without directions from our political boses...So bhai don't think that defence forces are not capable......bol kis ki hawwa likkadwaani sei.
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Dev Kaka
i have all that with due respect to forces, political powers, and Indians of course... there is a misconception here.

I know hamari force kisi ka bhi dum nikal sakte hai :-) JAT Regiment bhi to hai akhir :p
 
guys.....

4th largest or 5th largest.....hardly matters.

we got 600,000 of those doing the rounds in 100 km sq. in a & around srinagar.thts not good.

dahiyarules.....its good to have a sane voice at times of stress.

but,lemme tell u one thing.....there is something good about ANGER......it gets things done!

which wouldnt happen otherwise,given our impotent leaders.

completely disillusioned from the inaction...indifference....& lack of balls by our political leadership.

its all very well to go gung-ho online & say we can overthrow u with merely lathis........but its not in our hands,is it?
its in the bloody "netas" hands....sad,but true.

& yes,remember.......arguing on the internet is like cheering for alabama,whoever wins,you"re still the loser!
 
Sumit,

First time, i feel like in total agreement with what you have written on this thread. War is no solution. It is the biggest crime to kill the innocent civilians and Israel is doing it time and again. It is most unscruplous people, who even spy against a harmless country like New Zealand. They have bombed the UN mission in Beirut killing 4 of the ten peacekeepers.
 
Jat the fighter

pakistanis were hindus once. they all are converted muslims. you cannot get the truth out of them. but i think pakistan alone doesn't have the balls to attack india.
all these attacks in mumbai look like a misdirection to me, to put india offtrack with its economic development which is steadily growing over past years.
a month or so before these attacks india was lauching insat 4C on a homemade indian rocket. if successful that mission would had introduced india to a multi-dollar business market of space. but the launch somehow failed.
all these terorist atacks are to keep india in dark and slowdown its economic growth.
we must find the real culprits first. think about it who would really gain if india is stuck in these terorist situations.
Jats should unite and try to put a jat on prime minister/presidents chair.
so that when we find the real criminal behind these attackson our country, we can kick the enemies ass down to the gutter wherever they came from.
but first lets find the enemy.
 
dahiyarules said:
Do it at your own cost. Do not drag the entire country with your opinions.

People like you are called "armchair warriors." You guys shout propaganda sititng in an armchair while you expect others children to fulfill your desires of glory.

Form your own version of "mujahadeen" and attack whoever you want. But please do not use our nationality as your identity. It is your own personal crusade.
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So what do you want Mr Dahiya. Sitting in Home feeling Proud that the pakistanis are killing our brothers in mumbai and kashmir.

That guy is atleast talking about what should be done is showing some concern as being an Indian.

The worst thing is that my country is held hostage by people who think like you (the politicians).

It is such a big shame that we are sitting Idle and a much smaller nation is showing us what to do.

A jat should not talk like a Bania

A jat carries the love for his motherland in his heart and his blood boils when someone kills innocent people in his own country
 
drjatin said:
So what do you want Mr Dahiya. Sitting in Home feeling Proud that the pakistanis are killing our brothers in mumbai and kashmir.

That guy is atleast talking about what should be done is showing some concern as being an Indian.

The worst thing is that my country is held hostage by people who think like you (the politicians).

It is such a big shame that we are sitting Idle and a much smaller nation is showing us what to do.

A jat should not talk like a Bania

A jat carries the love for his motherland in his heart and his blood boils when someone kills innocent people in his own country
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Would you please cut this pseudo machismo crap attached with Jats. If for one Jat talking logically instead of throwing violent foolhardy comments makes him sound like a Bania then I dont know where the hell you are getting your opinion for Jats.
Like every other caste Jats are developing themselves and as they will develop stupid vioelent tendecies will definitely vanish. But this does not mean that a Jat will become a coward but Jat will know when and how to use his power and courage.

Coming back to the topic, Israel is a Jewish state and a much smaller entity on world map than India. Both the government's have different agendas, Israel has a strong lobby in the parliaments of all the western countries. With help of many such factors and their bravery Israel has been dealing with terrorism and violent attacks impressively. But India is a different picture altogether, India had to give her own land to accommodate Pakistan and Bangladesh in other words Muslims, whereas for Israel Muslim land had to accommodate Jewish people thrown out of Europe by Hitler and other anti-semitics. India has many times more Muslims in herself thanthe population of Israel, going on war will be much more difficult for her than in Israel. Economically, Israel has a strong backing again from Jewish lobby in the world whereas India does not have such privelage, taking violent action would put the country back many years.

This problem can only be dealt diplomatically and other tools such as media and awareness. Today, even if we destroy Pakistan we will face the brunt of other Islamic nations and loose our friends within the Muslim community and then who will put the oil in India cars, trucks and machines.

I think because of some Jats like you whose hearts boil before their brains rush with blood we Jats have already earned such a negative image of being brainless warriors. Thankfully due to efforts of some forward Jats this image is changing to smart and brave people, please dont undo this and respect your bravery, intelligence, yourself and ultimately our Jat identity.

Cheers,
 
sansanwalamit said:
Would you please cut this pseudo machismo crap attached with Jats. If for one Jat talking logically instead of throwing violent foolhardy comments makes him sound like a Bania then I dont know where the hell you are getting your opinion for Jats.
Like every other caste Jats are developing themselves and as they will develop stupid vioelent tendecies will definitely vanish. But this does not mean that a Jat will become a coward but Jat will know when and how to use his power and courage.

Coming back to the topic, Israel is a Jewish state and a much smaller entity on world map than India. Both the government's have different agendas, Israel has a strong lobby in the parliaments of all the western countries. With help of many such factors and their bravery Israel has been dealing with terrorism and violent attacks impressively. But India is a different picture altogether, India had to give her own land to accommodate Pakistan and Bangladesh in other words Muslims, whereas for Israel Muslim land had to accommodate Jewish people thrown out of Europe by Hitler and other anti-semitics. India has many times more Muslims in herself thanthe population of Israel, going on war will be much more difficult for her than in Israel. Economically, Israel has a strong backing again from Jewish lobby in the world whereas India does not have such privelage, taking violent action would put the country back many years.

This problem can only be dealt diplomatically and other tools such as media and awareness. Today, even if we destroy Pakistan we will face the brunt of other Islamic nations and loose our friends within the Muslim community and then who will put the oil in India cars, trucks and machines.

I think because of some Jats like you whose hearts boil before their brains rush with blood we Jats have already earned such a negative image of being brainless warriors. Thankfully due to efforts of some forward Jats this image is changing to smart and brave people, please dont undo this and respect your bravery, intelligence, yourself and ultimately our Jat identity.

Cheers,
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My friend fighting for ones rights does not give negative image to any community. Blood of a man always boils if any injustice is done to his country.
Fighting for stupid things gives a bad name. Fighting for own country is not stupidism.You are lucky that u have not lost anyone in blasts in mumbai and delhi. Living in constant fear for ones beloved is much worse than dying.
Some posh people on leaving their country dont care about their country they feel ashamed talking about their own country and caste. I know many posh jats whose faces turn red if anyone calls them jat.
One should believe in himself and should stand for his family community and country.
Some people have also called Bhagat Singh a Stupid. I cant argue with them.
 
Well .. first things first..

1)
Israel and India are in very different political and social situation.
The two nations have had very different history and cultural backgrounds.

2)
The enemy in case of Israel is very distinct and clear .. They officially condemn Israel and take full responsibilty of the bombings in Israel.

In case of India.. the enemy is working with an altogether different strategy.. one thing we must be aware of IT IS NOT PAKISTAN but A SECTION OF EXTRIMISTS who are to be blamed.. And in such situations diplomacy is the only key...

3)
Many political thinkers are of the strong belief that Musharraf has been trying a lot to gain control over the terrorism.. but then it is not too easy..!

Musharaff must be supported in his project of taming militant.. Accusing him/ Pakistan for blasts will just make it tougher.. he has himself been hit twice by terrorists which prove that he is actually bothering them.. We seriously want him back there at the top in Pak.. !!

4)
Terrorism in India is strinking wid sole objective of disturbing peace and stability so that their own agenda of free kashmir is brought in headlines.. In case of Israel.. there is no carving of making news.. they just want blood..

So basicaly if we get into war with Pak or even if some heated arguments start .. it would just be a victory of terrorism..

These outfits want Pak and India to get out of track of the peace negotiations.. because then they get back into the limelight!

5)
And most importantly.. Israelis are high headed fellows.. who are so obsessed with the hangover of atrocities committed on them during Nazi regime... that they just get hyper over even small criticisms...

It's like .. once burnt twice shy...! They have developed into strong nuke power.. US backing is not a support but rather a need of US as many Israeli Jews are into strong positions in US administration.. Jews are genetically genius .. Einstien was one!!

6)
And above all.. the killings of civilians in palestine... lebanon is nothing but a gross act of inhumanity.. no where and in no circumstances can these killings be justified..

and being a peace loving non aligned nation India cant get into such thing.. we have an image and we cant let it go diluted..

It may sound more like a bania then a jat,, but then I guess it were parsis and baniyas who decided out foreign policy!

India is on right track... and way way stronger and superior to 'self centred' israelis.. we are big and compassionate... and we are headed for a perfect future.. peaceful development!
 
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yaaro maoj karo , jo jesa kar raha hai,karne do............

"tulsi bhrose ram ke nirbhya hoke soye anhoni honi nahin honi ho so hoye"

" kahan phikre jamana kahan tum ghalib ".

with best wishes for war affected people.

may there be no war in this world.

life is too short & precious to be wasted like that.

live life love life folks.
 
War with pakistan is not realistic. Firstly India cannot afford it, militarily and economically. Secondly, it is in our best interests to strive for peace with our neighbours. A highly integrated and open south asian economy is the only long term solution for lasting peace and prosperity. Even if we destroy pakistan's military in a conflict (though highly unlikely), that will not end the terrorism problem. For the short term we should focus on improving domestic security and for the long term focus on economic and social integration. Population in both countries just want a better life. Common people in pakistan and in India are not interested in bombing each other to dark ages. Dear Friends, hate is an extra baggage. Get rid of it and enjoy life.
 
Israel is fighting for the survival thy cant afford to take such terror activites lightly thy must come dwn heavy on muslim terrorists or else the jewish state will b history. Whras India is enjoyin its booming economy... cant take any chance with growth n development.
 
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