Do we believe we respect our elders?

Hi Friends,

This is Renuka, I am new member of jatland. Yesterday I saw two extreme conditions at same place (doctor's clinic) which made me to ask this question at this forum:

Those extreme scenarios were:
Condition 1: The Clinic was full different age group of people, starting from 15 till 70 years . When I entered the clinic I saw one aged uncle(must be in his late 60s), was standing and looking for some place to sit , but nobody bothered to offer him a seat. That uncle got a chance to sit when someone left the seat on his turn to visit the doctor.

Condition 2: In the same clinic I saw one old lady (must be in her 80s) who was accompanied by her daughter/daughter-in-law(second generation w.r.t. old lady) and her grandson( third generation w.r.t. old lady) and I must say, second and third generation did everything to make her comfortable.

Friends , I just want to know , what we as younger generation should do to make sure to reduce % of condition 1 and increase that of condition 2.

Thanks in advance.

Renuka Dabas

Extend your helping hand....


Very good topic Renuka ji.....Through this example you are conveying the truth of modern India. On one side we are progressing.....opportunities are coming etc. but all these things are happening at cost of our morale values. Now people(not only youngsters but elders ) cares about their family. Basic etiquette are really weak. Now we can find in society case easily where children(specially after marriage) are not caring about their parents. These cases are found more in metro cities where people are educated. I feel it's the pace of life which is decreasing morale values in the society.
 
Aman Bhai if elders are wrong then we would hav not been here

& if some are, then Tit 4 tat is not the good thing at their age

Renuka

One thing i forget

Tum doctor key pass kya ka karne gayi thi. Hope u r well.
 
Hi Friends,

This is Renuka, I am new member of jatland. Yesterday I saw two extreme conditions at same place (doctor's clinic) which made me to ask this question at this forum:

Those extreme scenarios were:
Condition 1: The Clinic was full different age group of people, starting from 15 till 70 years . When I entered the clinic I saw one aged uncle(must be in his late 60s), was standing and looking for some place to sit , but nobody bothered to offer him a seat. That uncle got a chance to sit when someone left the seat on his turn to visit the doctor.

Condition 2: In the same clinic I saw one old lady (must be in her 80s) who was accompanied by her daughter/daughter-in-law(second generation w.r.t. old lady) and her grandson( third generation w.r.t. old lady) and I must say, second and third generation did everything to make her comfortable.

Friends , I just want to know , what we as younger generation should do to make sure to reduce % of condition 1 and increase that of condition 2.

Thanks in advance.

Renuka Dabas

Extend your helping hand....


You are generalizing things based on very small data. But yeah, ppl have become more selfish and self centered which is the cause of such incidences. What u saw is nothing, one can see more disgraceful acts by todays generation. But still there is no dearth of good ppl who respect elders.
 
Re baalak ki jaan loge! Pehla thread start kiya hai bechaari ne. Yahaan to roz kaise bhi thread start hote hain. Kahin christmas ki shaadi ho rahi hai (marry christmas), kahin maut ke baad kya hoga (what happens after death) aur kahin marital status pe charcha. Ab tum isne bhaja doge, fir koi thread start hoga "lack of women participation at JL".

To each his own.
 
Kapil,"Re baalak ki jaan loge! Pehla thread start kiya hai bechaari ne. "

First thing, I Really dont think you have any right to call me bechaari.... and secondly it is not abt lack of women participation at JL what matters is if we are really taking the discussion seriously... Every body has there view points and I belive in case any body wants to contibute anything , it should be abt topic not abt person....
 
Kapil,"Re baalak ki jaan loge! Pehla thread start kiya hai bechaari ne. "

First thing, I Really dont think you have any right to call me bechaari.... and secondly it is not abt lack of women participation at JL what matters is if we are really taking the discussion seriously... Every body has there view points and I belive in case any body wants to contibute anything , it should be abt topic not abt person....

It was meant in jest. Infact, I was actually arguing in favor of your right to start whatever thread you want. But, please accept my unconditional apology in any case.
 
प्रिय रेणुका जी, हम सिर्फ आज की नई पीढ़ी को ही दोष नहीं दे सकते क्योंकि इस नई गेनेरातिओं बनाने वाले हम ही हैं. यदि शुरू से ही हम अपने बच्चों को सही शिक्षा देंगे तो ही हमारा आगे के लिए सम्मान किया जायेगा. इसमें सबसे पहले तो बच्चों की बुरी आदतों पर ध्यान रखना होगा और साथ में ही उनको अपने माँ बाप के अलावा दादा दादी, ताऊ ताई, चाचा चाची और परिवार व मोहल्ले के अन्य लोगों की इज्जत करना बच्चपन से ही सिखायेंगे तबी ही वो बड़े होकर हमारी व अन्य बुजर्गों की इज्जत करना सीखेंगे, मेरे भी चार बच्चे हैं और चरों ही educated हैं फिर भी आज तक मेरे सामने आने की हिम्मत नहीं करते हैं.
 
प्रिय रेणुका जी, हम सिर्फ आज की नई पीढ़ी को ही दोष नहीं दे सकते क्योंकि इस नई गेनेरातिओं बनाने वाले हम ही हैं. यदि शुरू से ही हम अपने बच्चों को सही शिक्षा देंगे तो ही हमारा आगे के लिए सम्मान किया जायेगा. इसमें सबसे पहले तो बच्चों की बुरी आदतों पर ध्यान रखना होगा और साथ में ही उनको अपने माँ बाप के अलावा दादा दादी, ताऊ ताई, चाचा चाची और परिवार व मोहल्ले के अन्य लोगों की इज्जत करना बच्चपन से ही सिखायेंगे तबी ही वो बड़े होकर हमारी व अन्य बुजर्गों की इज्जत करना सीखेंगे, मेरे भी चार बच्चे हैं और चरों ही educated हैं फिर भी आज तक मेरे सामने आने की हिम्मत नहीं करते हैं.
 
Renuka, a wonderful, useful & very sensible toppic, I must say, such idea coming to your mind & your initiation of this post, has contributed a lot towards improvement. It is totally positive thinking & a good cause. But many our brothers may not like this thread, you may see very few participents & if at all some participation, more percentage will be negative.
a) Are all villagers bad/indisciplined or Battemmeez log? May I ask our respected mods & Administrators, is it correct expression on our forum, are such remarks permitted by you people, respected Bhartiji, another example of baised dealing, I am 100% sure, had this kind of remark from people from villages like me, you people wouldnot have tolrated the remarks (post 14)
b) Are all people staying in cities Bhagwan Ram & Laxman?
c) Why are we diverting attention from a very toppic by bringing in the point of standared of hospitals/docters & facilities provided by them? (post15 & 19)
d) Tewatiaji, I agree on population, lack of resources etc, but dear for such education, degrees are not required at all. The rquirement is of real education, sanskaras, devlopment of the character qualities/personality traits and these can be learned/taught in the house, society or at every step of lif, provided we are keen & best method of teaching is by self example. Brother, have you seen even a paragraph on morale education at any level in our education syllabus. I do agree that lot of physical development has taken place in the world but the development of the soul/individual character building/personality development has totally stopped. But more blame goes to elder generation, because it seems we have failed misurably. Earlier not in public transport but at public places not only elderly men/women but even young ladies were offered seats by even elderly men. Anyway Renuka, thanks for good toppic & good initiative for good cause. regards
 
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Courtesy & respect is surely not dead as on today......we must respect our elders....Kise bhai ne DTC bus ka example diya.... Aaj bhi gaon ke log apni seat chod de sai, bade budde , balak aali tai.....& i stay at Najafgarh .... seen it myself!!!!!
 
first of all try to improve or change your self, u'll find every thing to be changed. dusron ko sudharne ki baten karna bahut aasan hota hai lekin khud ko badalna thoda mushkil bt satisfactory n result oriented hota hai...................
dear jatlanders agar badlaw lana hai to better to start frm ourselves......

well said !
One should strive to be the change one wants to see in others,same holds true when it comes to respecting our elders.
Every one of us should do our best to show respect to the elders which they are worthy of.We should play our part in preserving the values which are the cornerstones of our social fabric.
 
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Thanks Fatej Ji for liking my post,

With due respect to all Jatlanders' view on this topic. I would like to contribute to questions mentioned in your post:

Renuka, a wonderful, useful & very sensible toppic, I must say, such idea coming to your mind & your initiation of this post, has contributed a lot towards improvement. It is totally positive thinking & a good cause. But many our brothers may not like this thread, you may see very few participents & if at all some participation, more percentage will be negative.
a) Are all villagers bad/indisciplined or Battemmeez log? May I ask our respected mods & Administrators, is it correct expression on our forum, are such remarks permitted by you people, respected Bhartiji, another example of baised dealing, I am 100% sure, had this kind of remark from people from villages like me, you people wouldnot have tolrated the remarks (post 14).
I am too young to comment on this, with due respect to our elders , I feel discipline/tameez is not related to children born or brought up in city or villages , I believe it is responsibility of family as well as individual to learn and follow moral(family) values .I am saying here it is individual responsibly as well because even if family plays full attention to a kid to teach him/her all good values and when he/she grows up then with the influence of world outside family he/she may start doing something which we may not call as moral.
Regarding the remark at post 14, Inspite of the fact I am born and brought up in metropolitan city, even I don’t agree with this post. But I fully respect individual thoughts on this topic because everybody has their own perception of things.
b) Are all people staying in cities Bhagwan Ram & Laxman? :
I am not very sure if by this you are trying to say if my thoughts "that we should respect elders" means I am thinking about an Ideal world where all elders should be treated the same way as they were in the Era of Bhagwan Ram and Laxman. But I believe,irrespective of the centaury we are living in if we ,younger generation, expects respect from our next generation then , they should set the examples for next generations .Even if there is any difference in opinion on any situation , I am sure healthy discussion between different generations can a solution to a problem that is because of difference of opinion because of “generation gap”.
c) Why are we diverting attention from a very toppic by bringing in the point of standared of hospitals/docters & facilities provided by them? (post15 & 19)"
I think it is different members’ perception of the situation. Although the original topic that I wanted to bring was a bit different :)
d) Tewatiaji, I agree on population, lack of resources etc, but dear for such education, degrees are not required at all. The rquirement is of real education, sanskaras, devlopment of the character qualities/personality traits and these can be learned/taught in the house, society or at every step of lif, provided we are keen & best method of teaching is by self example. Brother, have you seen even a paragraph on morale education at any level in our education syllabus. I do agree that lot of physical development has taken place in the world but the development of the soul/individual character building/personality development has totally stopped. But more blame goes to elder generation, because it seems we have failed misurably. Earlier not in public transport but at public places not only elderly men/women but even young ladies were offered seats by even elderly men. Anyway Renuka, thanks for good toppic & good initiative for good cause.
Again I will say the same, although respecting elders by offering seat to needy is not 100% gone. And if we “younger generation” (be it male or female) is not offering seats to needy, be it elder people or females), then we should not expect the same from our next generation or even from same generation that they will offer seat to our near and dear ones (when they require the same).

Just to summarize all this, I would like to say, we “younger generation “ should demonstrate in action to our elders as we expect from out next generation
J
 
Thanks Fatej Ji for liking my post,

With due respect to all Jatlanders' view on this topic. I would like to contribute to questions mentioned in your post:

Renuka, a wonderful, useful & very sensible toppic, I must say, such idea coming to your mind & your initiation of this post, has contributed a lot towards improvement. It is totally positive thinking & a good cause. But many our brothers may not like this thread, you may see very few participents & if at all some participation, more percentage will be negative.
a) Are all villagers bad/indisciplined or Battemmeez log? May I ask our respected mods & Administrators, is it correct expression on our forum, are such remarks permitted by you people, respected Bhartiji, another example of baised dealing, I am 100% sure, had this kind of remark from people from villages like me, you people wouldnot have tolrated the remarks (post 14).
I am too young to comment on this, with due respect to our elders , I feel discipline/tameez is not related to children born or brought up in city or villages , I believe it is responsibility of family as well as individual to learn and follow moral(family) values .I am saying here it is individual responsibly as well because even if family plays full attention to a kid to teach him/her all good values and when he/she grows up then with the influence of world outside family he/she may start doing something which we may not call as moral.
Regarding the remark at post 14, Inspite of the fact I am born and brought up in metropolitan city, even I don’t agree with this post. But I fully respect individual thoughts on this topic because everybody has their own perception of things.
b) Are all people staying in cities Bhagwan Ram & Laxman? :
I am not very sure if by this you are trying to say if my thoughts "that we should respect elders" means I am thinking about an Ideal world where all elders should be treated the same way as they were in the Era of Bhagwan Ram and Laxman. But I believe,irrespective of the centaury we are living in if we ,younger generation, expects respect from our next generation then , they should set the examples for next generations .Even if there is any difference in opinion on any situation , I am sure healthy discussion between different generations can a solution to a problem that is because of difference of opinion because of “generation gap”.
c) Why are we diverting attention from a very toppic by bringing in the point of standared of hospitals/docters & facilities provided by them? (post15 & 19)"
I think it is different members’ perception of the situation. Although the original topic that I wanted to bring was a bit different :)
d) Tewatiaji, I agree on population, lack of resources etc, but dear for such education, degrees are not required at all. The rquirement is of real education, sanskaras, devlopment of the character qualities/personality traits and these can be learned/taught in the house, society or at every step of lif, provided we are keen & best method of teaching is by self example. Brother, have you seen even a paragraph on morale education at any level in our education syllabus. I do agree that lot of physical development has taken place in the world but the development of the soul/individual character building/personality development has totally stopped. But more blame goes to elder generation, because it seems we have failed misurably. Earlier not in public transport but at public places not only elderly men/women but even young ladies were offered seats by even elderly men. Anyway Renuka, thanks for good toppic & good initiative for good cause.
Again I will say the same, although respecting elders by offering seat to needy is not 100% gone. And if we “younger generation” (be it male or female) is not offering seats to needy, be it elder people or females), then we should not expect the same from our next generation or even from same generation that they will offer seat to our near and dear ones (when they require the same).

Just to summarize all this, I would like to say, we “younger generation “ should demonstrate in action to our elders as we expect from out next generation J

Renuka, you are really too young, simple @ you have not understood my point of view. ALL MY QUESTIONS WERE NOT FOR YOU TO ANSWER. How one can say that people from villages are Batameeze, even if we are born in cities our forfathers were from villages only, donot you think good or bad are found in villages as well as in cities, are all from towns/cities displined, do they all respect their parents, this I ment Ram & laxman. UNNECERILY YOU HAVE WASTED YOUR VALUABLE TIME IN ANSWERING MY POST IT WAS NIETHER REQUIRED FROM YOU NOR YOU UNDERSTOOD AND REPLIED WELL. pLEASE DONOT MIND MY REMARKS, THESE ARE MY VIEWS. REGARDS
 
Respect the elders

We should respect our elders.
We are in waiting queue.
May god bless with good thought and vision
 
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Inkey ashirwaad sey banegee hamaree shaan
Sunn lo sab haan
Eik eik bol lakhaun manako kee khaan
Samajho paa gayaa bhagwaan
Taneek rakho eis par dhyaan
 
Hi Friends,

This is Renuka, I am new member of jatland. Yesterday I saw two extreme conditions at same place (doctor's clinic) which made me to ask this question at this forum:

Those extreme scenarios were:
Condition 1: The Clinic was full different age group of people, starting from 15 till 70 years . When I entered the clinic I saw one aged uncle(must be in his late 60s), was standing and looking for some place to sit , but nobody bothered to offer him a seat. That uncle got a chance to sit when someone left the seat on his turn to visit the doctor.

Condition 2: In the same clinic I saw one old lady (must be in her 80s) who was accompanied by her daughter/daughter-in-law(second generation w.r.t. old lady) and her grandson( third generation w.r.t. old lady) and I must say, second and third generation did everything to make her comfortable.

Friends , I just want to know , what we as younger generation should do to make sure to reduce % of condition 1 and increase that of condition 2.

Thanks in advance.

Renuka Dabas

Extend your helping hand....

By remembering that : As you sow, so shall you reap. Your own children are learning from you how to treat elders.

बुढ़ापे की गडडी सबके बारने आनी सै.
 
This is an often debated Issue whether or not we should offer help or say seats while commuting.
Well I would say offer help only to those who are in need. If someone elderly is capable and still you offer them help it is nothing but belittling them.
My perception is only help the needy otherwise just help yourself as you have no right to make others feel undermined.
 
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