Do you believe in astrology ?

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Difficult Question to Answer....

Dear All,

A very difficult question to answer. May be some of us believe in Astrology but may not publicly admit in an open forum. Let me tell you about an experience I had in Jun 1992, at a non descript village near Odlabari, Bagrakot in North Bengal.

We had just finished with a training excercise in the mountains near Kalimpong and since we couldn't get vehicles to go to North Sikkim, where my 'Paltan' was supposed to revert to, we were asked to finish with our annual field firing ranges at Teesta Field Firing Ranges. This is the background how we landed up in that place.

My commanding officer, a Jat Sikh, self and one Major Tiwari (a dear friend from Nainital) were having evening tea with an Artillery unit. One of their officers told us about a certain 'Fakkad Baba' who ived nearby. It seems he could rattle off an individual's future by just looking around a person (something called 'Aura' reading). We all laughed it out but then since we were at that location, the three of us decided to visit this Baba. We did go to his hut in a random order. This is what he told me after looking at me for a minute or so.

1. Your wife has a medical problem related with head. He said all would be well though. My wife later underwent a brain tumor operation in Delhi in Jun 1995.
2. He told me that I would buy a white car in the near future. I did not have money to even buy a scooter at that time or even for an year. However, one Doctor Uncle was disposing off his car, a WHITE FIAT, and he gave it to me and said "Jab paise hon, de denaa". I bought the car in Dec 1992.
3. He told me that I would make two houses. One I own today (other than the ancestral one) and one more has been allotted through the Army Housing Scheme.
4. Then he asked me if I had any questions. I had appeared in the written exam for Defence Services Staff College Exam Ser 49 and the results were to be announced in a few days. I asked him "will I pass?". He said "Ho jayegaa". And I did pass.

By the way Major Tiwari too had apperared for the same exam. He too asked him and got a positive response. He too passed and we both went together for the course. It is a rarity for two officers to pass in one year. Of course we had worked hard, both of us.

I still remember that experience rather vividly.

Yes, I do believe in astrology. But not blindly.

Regards,

JS Malik
 
Most of the time astrology is a fluke as per my experience. Jagmohan ji, that astrologer didn't tell you the exact problem...once you grow beyond 40, you are bound to have some problem or the other, he simply said medical problem with head, it could be migraine too which is the most common symptom and astrologers just talk in subjective or abstract terms..he said you will have a white car, this remained in your mind so when you got an oppurtunity to buy a car and that too white, you bought it thinking that astrologer said the right thing..even if you had an option to buy a new car, you would have bought white only as back of the mind you would have thought about astrologer's words..its all about psychology as I understand. Similarly for passing of exam, I am not sure how difficult is that exam but no astrologer would say that you would fail until and unless he knows that you are not intelligent enough or a below average person..

If you really want to test an astrologer, ask him about your past..if you have a black color car, ask him which kind of car you currently have..if you are already a divorcee, tell him that your husband/wife is very good..unka job kaisa hoga and then ask how will ur married life be..he wont be able to guess that you are a divorcee...if you have already been to a foreign country, tell him that you want to go out..is there any chance..if yes then when..he is going to tell you Upays...

Frankly speaking, I really want to meet a person who really can mesmerise me with all this .. I have heard stories about many, but when I went there they turned out to be totally clueless.. Delhi mein koi mandir ke baba hain, ek friend ne bola wo tumhara rumaal dekh ke tumhare baare mein sab bata deta hai (FOR FREE as claimed)..I was obviously very curious..me and my friend kept a hanky with some rice inside it under our pillow while sleeping..and then next day gave it to him..what he said..(I was 22-23 yr. that time)..tumhe apne career ki chinta hai..u want to have a good job but there are some problems in ur grahas..and wrote an upay of 200-300 rs. :confused: thats but obvious a person of 22-23 would be looking for his career..

Similarly, many of you would have heard about Nadi astrology..they can tell all about you by looking at old patras..I went to one in Pune with my friend. One guy greeted us at the reception..I asked all about the process with him..that how you do..whats the gaurantee that its true (just to unnerve him :) .. then he took our thumb impressions and went inside to collect our patras.. I immediately told my friend he is going to come back saying our records are not there and it happened exactly that way!!! And my friend went again to the same place after 2 weeks alone and this time they found his record :confused: ...

Astrologers are more of a psychologists, they see your behaviour, your personality and make some assumptions on the basis of that. One of my friend tells that a man in Mumbai tells your exact 'Date of Birth' just by looking at your face. I am yet to meet that man but if he is able to do that..that would be something amazing...

Over a period of time, I really believe life is a series of incidents which can change path as per your action and not through pre-destined future. Baki asliyat marne ke baad pata pad hi jayegi...
 
I feel it is somewhat difficult to answer in a straight forward 'yes' or 'no'. there are a lot of grey areas. Some people believe in astrology and some do not. There are too many unknowns in life and sometimes when you are clueless about the unknowns you resort to believing in astrology. My personal opinion is that one should not rely totally on astrology to make every decisions in life.
 
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Kamal ho gaya!
Apne Col. chacha bhi astrologer ki bhaloyee mein aa gaye. Mein tae nu socch
ra tha ki Col. chacha ek aadh danda chepte baba ke...andh vishwas failan
tahin!

Vaise yoh keesa naam..."Fakkad baba"...angrezza nae tae yoh naam dhara
na hoga..that is for sure....:cool:

Vaise I agree with Prasant...jib inn tae past ka kucch na bataya jaanta
tae bhavisya ka ke batawaange. Yeh tae siddhe saadhe
logan ne bhalon ka sauda hai. Khaas tor pe lugaayeeyan ko.
Mahare jisse tae inki chakree bandh dein.

Ek be ek astologer ne meri ma ko bataya ke "Aaapka beta jab ghusse
mein hota hai toh oonchi awaaj mein bolta hai!"...Yea Sure, Mr.
Einstein!

The only time I had direct contact with someone like that was when
I was in 6/7 grade. I had gone to my buwa's village and me and my cousin
were in the fields. He spotted an old "banjaran" type lady and he said ki
"wah haath dekha kare". So we rushed to her to show our hands. And of
course my cousin asked her the most important question on our minds:
"mahare byah ke baare mein bata de" :eek: :cool: :D

She said to my cousin ki tera byah aas paas ke gaam mein hoga.
She said to me ki mera foreign tae rishta aweega and there would be two
families fighting over me....

How much of that turned out to be true...ha ha ha ha...I'll leave that
as an exercise. But it was nevertheless interesting that she threw
in the "foreign" aspect. I had already been travelling abroad at that
time...but I doubt she knew that in any way. Perhaps..clothing etc.
might have been a clue.

In any case, I don't really believe in any of that...though always like
to keep an open mind...For the time being I think the
test of "pastcasting" is a good one.
 
nice topic for discussion

i do believe in astrology
but dont take it very seriously:)
 
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Theek baat kahee bhai Raj! I don't know who gave him that name but that's what he was known as.

I just wrote about the experience I had a long time back. Bhaloyae mein katai nahin aaya bhai...

It is a matter of faith actually. No conclusive proof to prove it either way.
 
I want to thank all the members who have shared their views here. Many views have made me doubtful and are prompting me to consult some astrologer again.:confused: .
But no I've taken my stand, "COME WHAT MAY", I ll take it in my stride. And so there's no place for any future tellers.
Prashant, Your views sounds very convincing to me, perhaps because they someewhere match to mines.:)
 
astrology

astrology yanee jyotsh vidya kabhee ramayan mahabharat me iske bare me suna tha aaj ke yoog me bhee ye vidya hai mai nahi manta theek hai jyotshi hai or is desh me bhoot ache ache name wale jyotshee hai par kya koi gurantee se kah saktee hai kee we 100% sahee batate hai hai maine bhee iske bare me thoda bhoot padha ye ek maths hai or isme equation bheeda kar batate hai or jaha tak haath dekh kar batane kee bat hai agar koi merea haath dekh kar mera bare ek bhee bat sahee bate to mai bhee astrology me vishwaash karne lag joonga.

Jaipur me news paper me Aids niklate fala hotel me fala jyoteeshe ayee hai fees 1500-2000 tak lete the 20 saal pahale kee bat bata raha hoo mai mai or mere kuch dost haath dikhane jate or fees wapas le kar ate ek bhee sahee jawab nahi de saka kyo kee mere haath me sirf 2 line hai ek oomar ke or ke dil kee or bhee badi badi. tisire hai hee nahi agla batye kya........:) :mad: :mad:

netra.........
 
Totally Reject it

Whether I believe in astrology or not ?... I'll say I dont much.
I am not able to understand, how the directions or particular position of various stars in the solar system may affect our lives.... or how these self proclaimed predictioners can make predictions about our future n life, based on stars positions in our birth charts. And how they can assert that wid certain so called upayas , the position of stars can be changed. I really dont understand it. Thou wont lie, a couple of times in life, I myself went to the pandits n performed some upayas also. But truly, I could not fit that into my thought process. Well I think, We all have our insecurities, and these people take advantage of that and we do it beacause we do not see any harm, may be some monetary or time loss. If something bad happenes and you did not follow their advice then we start thinking may be there is some truth. No horoscopes, no pandits can tell about what lies ahead ??? Tell me, at one given time, at one place, many children take birth, the horoscopes for them wud be same with same position of different starts in different houses, Do they all share similar destiny? Nahin na !
I believe we come with a pre-destined life..... Kismet mein jo likha hai wahi hoga, na usse jyada, na usse kam, na waqt se pehle, na uske baad. There's that wise saying na - "Waqt se pehle aur kismet se jyada kabhi kisi ko nahi milta". There is a fixed time for everything, and how the things ll turn out, we can not predict... what we can do is best n sincere efforts on our part.
So I believe in faith, in destiny,in spirituality, in positivity...but in astrology n horoscopes, perhaps not !
Recently I read Dr. A.P.J.Abdul Kalam's Autobiography. I quote few lines from there to share with all - "Quite honestly, I never really understood the reason behind the great importance attached by people to the faraway planets in our solar system. As an art, I have nothing against astrology, but if it seeks acceptance under the guise of science, I reject it. I do not know how the myths evoled about planets, star constellations and even satellites-that they can exercise power on human beings. The highly complicated calculations manipulated around the precise movements of celestial bodies, to derive highly subjective conclusions appear illogical to me". From- WINGS OF FIRE - An Autobiography - A P J Abdul Kalam, page 15.

NOTE - This is my thinking. I apologize if it hurts anyone's feelings. Different and even contradictory comments are welcome. To get to know different opinions is the purpose behind this post.

Totally and whole-heartedly reject it. Will never waste my time on having to do anything with it.
 
No...not in astrology ....

and plssss don't mind not in such threads:cool:

Thank you vikas for your valuable comments.
Well its not a compulsory thread, so if you dont like, its okay, need nt post reply or even visit. hope you didn't mind visiting once....:cool:
 
No...not in astrology ....

and plssss don't mind not in such threads:cool:

Nobody minds here buddy and at least about whom who don't have anything to say or participate in any debate but just try to force their thoughts.

Knowledge leads to intellectuality and intellectual ppl know how to debate and conclude but dumbs just know how to reject each and every thought without putting up their own point of view. :)
 
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