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What is Mawli ?

Mawli or Mavli (मावली) is a local goddess worshipped by Jats, as well as other communities in Rajasthan, particularly Nagaur, Churu, Sikar etc being Jat dominated. Every village has a temple of the this Goddess. She is supposed to be protector of the village. It is believed that Mavli rectifies some physical disorders. The bride and bridegroom in Rajasthan first visit the Mavli temple to get blessings.

In very remote Bastar area in Chhatisgarh near Orissa tribal people worship the same goddess Mavli Devi. She is one of goddesses worshipped by Muria, Mahara and Rawat communities. Tribal Villagers believe that this Devi protects villagers from evil effects.

Does two very remote and far away inaccessible areas having same local common deity points to common origin ?
 
महाराष्ट्र में शिवाजी के सेनिकों को "मावली " कहा जाता था |
 
Moar said:
उस्ताद जी, कदे " मवाली " कैह्न्दे हों |
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मवाली मुम्बइया बोली का शबद स ,इह का मतलब बदमास हो स | ये दोनु शबद न्यारे-न्यारे सें |
 
Alexander Cunningham wrote :


" Even so late as the beginning of the eleventh century A.D., Mahmud of Ghazni gave his sister in marriage to Malik Shahu (Shahu is the Jat title), the chief of the Afghans of Zabulistan (land of the Johal Jats). "


Reference :

* Cunningham, A. (Sir), Later Indo-Scythians, reprinted by Indological Book House, Varanasi, India, 1979, pp. 108-109, first published in 1893-94.
 
Moar said:
Alexander Cunningham wrote :


" Even so late as the beginning of the eleventh century A.D., Mahmud of Ghazni gave his sister in marriage to Malik Shahu (Shahu is the Jat title), the chief of the Afghans of Zabulistan (land of the Johal Jats). "


Reference :

* Cunningham, A. (Sir), Later Indo-Scythians, reprinted by Indological Book House, Varanasi, India, 1979, pp. 108-109, first published in 1893-94.
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Good post for which you deserve congrts.

But we have to find out full text of source on which the text is based. Malik and Sahu both being names of two gotras, it becomes a puzzle as to verify what really he was, Malik Jat or Sahu Jat and then what his full name was?

regards.
 
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what about MAHAMAYA...?
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Some facts about Mahamaya

I asked about Mawli. I was told by some local persons that Mawli is Mahamaya.

Mahamaya was Wife of Suddhodana, king of Kapilavastu ;Buddha conceived by her.

Skanda Purana tells us that Lord Vishnu remembered goddess Mahamaya and sought her help. Mahamaya appeared instantly and looked at Lord Vishnu with her large eyes.

Shalya Parva, Mahabharata/Book IX Chapter 44 tells us the ceremony for investing Kartikeya with the status of generalissimo (सेनागणाध्यक्ष), the diverse gods, various clans who joined it). Mahamaya is one of them in shloka 39:
39 पालितकं कालिकं च महामायाविनाव उभौ | पूषा च पार्षथौ पराथात कार्त्तिकेयाय भारत

The Mahamaya Temple is there in Ratanpur which is an ancient historical village in Kota tahsil of Bilaspur district in Chhattisgarh.

Rati gave to Pradyumna the Vidya known as Mahamaya, the destroyer of all other Mayas. Pradyumna fought with Samvara and killed him with the help of Mahamaya. Pradyumna (प्रद्युम्न) is Chandravanshi King, son of Krishna by Rukmini.(Bhagavata Purana SKANDHA X. CHAP. 55 )
 
शहीद भगत सिंह के नाम पर पाक का लाहौर चौक

लाहौर -पाकिस्तान ने लाहौर के शादमन चौक का नाम बदलकर शहीदे आजम भगत सिंह के नाम पर कर दिया है। इस चौक के पास कभी लाहौर की सेंट्रल जेल होती थी। वहीं 23 मार्च 1931 को भगत सिंह, राजगुरु और सुखदेव को फांसी दी गई थी। साल 1961 में इस जेल को ध्वस्त कर दिया गया। वहां शादमन कालोनी बनाई गई। शादमन चौक पर हर साल 23 मार्च को दोनों देशों के लोग यहां मोमबत्ती रैली निकालते हैं। भारत-पाकिस्तान दोस्ती मंच से जुड़े लोगों और भगत सिंह के परिजनों ने इस चौक का नाम बदले जाने का स्वागत किया है।
सन्दर्भ - भास्कर न्यूज नेटवर्क , 1 अक्टूबर 2012 ,http://www.bhaskar.com/article/CHH-266645-3861506.html
 
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[Wiki]Steven M. Collins[/Wiki] writes :


"Many Saxon tribes migrated into the British Isles, along with the Angles and Jutes. Angle, or Engle, is likely based on the Hebrew word “egel” for “bull” or “calf,” an identifying sign historically attached to the tribe of Ephraim. “Jutes” may simply be a variation of the name, Judah or Jats."


"Since the Jats were a branch of the "Sacae," called "Saxones" by Ptolemy, it is not surprising that they were still allied to the "Saxons" and called "Jutes" by the time they reached Europe and the British Isles. Note that the consonants of the words “Jats” and “Jutes” are identical."


Source : Collins, Steven M. (2005). Israel's Tribes Today (illustrated ed.). Book 4 of Lost tribes of Israel, Steven M. Collins. Bible Blessings. ISBN 0972584935, 9780972584937.
 
Moar said:
Steven M. Collins writes :


"Many Saxon tribes migrated into the British Isles, along with the Angles and Jutes. Angle, or Engle, is likely based on the Hebrew word “egel” for “bull” or “calf,” an identifying sign historically attached to the tribe of Ephraim. “Jutes” may simply be a variation of the name, Judah or Jats."


"Since the Jats were a branch of the "Sacae," called "Saxones" by Ptolemy, it is not surprising that they were still allied to the "Saxons" and called "Jutes" by the time they reached Europe and the British Isles. Note that the consonants of the words “Jats” and “Jutes” are identical."

हरयाणा के कई हिस्सों में खागड़ ( बुल ) को आक्कल कहते हैं ,जो की हिब्रू के “egel” से मिलता जुलता हे |
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ravinderjeet said:
Moar said:
Steven M. Collins writes :


"Many Saxon tribes migrated into the British Isles, along with the Angles and Jutes. Angle, or Engle, is likely based on the Hebrew word “egel” for “bull” or “calf,” an identifying sign historically attached to the tribe of Ephraim. “Jutes” may simply be a variation of the name, Judah or Jats."


"Since the Jats were a branch of the "Sacae," called "Saxones" by Ptolemy, it is not surprising that they were still allied to the "Saxons" and called "Jutes" by the time they reached Europe and the British Isles. Note that the consonants of the words “Jats” and “Jutes” are identical."
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हरयाणा के कई हिस्सों में खागड़ ( बुल ) को आक्कल कहते हैं ,जो की हिब्रू के “egel” से मिलता जुलता हे |
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Thank You for the Interesting Input, Sir !!
 
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Ishwar Singh Kundu, a well educated, but humble farmer from Kaithal, has invented natural pesticides which destroy the poisonous insects and pests but do not harm crop-friendly insects.

President Abdul Kalam had awarded him in 2007 with some cash incentive to continue his research. He has also received many rewards from local farmer bodies, state govts. etc.

His manufacturing unit KRISHICO HERBOLIC LABORATORIES was selected for prestigious international award “INTERNATIONAL STAR FOR LEADERSHIP IN QUALITY AWARD”. From business Initiative directions, Madrid, Spain. This award was bestowed to him in Paris, France on 25th, June, 2012.

More details about his laboratory are available on his website: http://www.khlagro.org/

Ishwar Singh Kundu has recently joined as a member of Jatland (user: kundumili). His page at Jatland wiki is:

http://www.jatland.com/home/Ishwar_Singh_Kundu.

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Kundah-panthi Sect

Kundah-panthi (कुंडाह-पंथी). a sect, founded in about 1870 by Hakim Singh Jat of Rampur, in Patiala.

H.A. Rose[1] writes that Hakim Singh was described as an insignificant looking man, living in filth, and possessing a few tracts and a New Testament in Panjabi (which he had obtained from American Missionaries at Ludhiana), from which he used to read to his few followers; but they soon numbered about 3,000 souls, and included several well-to- do inhabitants of Rampur. His preaching too underwent change, and he taught that the British Government would shortly be replaced by his own. Giving himself up to religious meditation as a lad, Hakim Singh who was a Jat, wandered about for several years as a faqir visiting shrines in different parts of the country, in the belief that, by so doing, he would atone for his past sins and obtain merit in the eyes of God. Then he settled down at his native village and began to preach the worship of the Neh Kalank Avatar* or spotless incarnation of the Deity, He obtained some Christian books from the missionaries at Ludhiana and declared that Christ was the Neh Kalank, and that he was himself an incarnation of Christ ; the Imam Mahdi expected by Muhammadans, and also the Raghnath believed in by Hindus. He taught his disciples to eat together and called his sect Kundah Panthi, kundah meaning an earthen vessel, and panth, a sect).† He enjoined strict morality, and declared that the Satyug, or era of truth, was about to commence. While acknowledging Christ was the true Guru, he maintained that he himself was an incarnation of Christ, and that it was for him to baptize.

Originally a disciple of one Thartpuri, a sadh of his own village, for 20 years Hakim Singh did not come out of his house. He had his head shaved and also those of several women. To avoid obeying the calls of nature, he used to put a stick down his throat after eating and so cause himself to vomit. This was called neuli karam. He was believed to possess the power (called joga bhias) of being able to hold his breath for a longtime without showing any sign of life. He was a great-opium eater and when visitors called on him the first thing he offered them was opium.
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* There is a prophecy- in the Hindu Shastars to the effect that " Neh Kalank Avatar " will be born in the house of a Khatri in village Sarabhal in the Moradabad district in Sambat 1940 A.D. 1883-84.
† So called because they all eat in common.

References - 1. A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/K,p.570-71
 
lrburdak said:
Kundah-panthi Sect

Kundah-panthi (कुंडाह-पंथी). a sect, founded in about 1870 by Hakim Singh Jat of Rampur, in Patiala.

H.A. Rose[1] writes that Hakim Singh was described as an insignificant looking man, living in filth, and possessing a few tracts and a New Testament in Panjabi (which he had obtained from American Missionaries at Ludhiana), from which he used to read to his few followers; but they soon numbered about 3,000 souls, and included several well-to- do inhabitants of Rampur. His preaching too underwent change, and he taught that the British Government would shortly be replaced by his own. Giving himself up to religious meditation as a lad, Hakim Singh who was a Jat, wandered about for several years as a faqir visiting shrines in different parts of the country, in the belief that, by so doing, he would atone for his past sins and obtain merit in the eyes of God. ..........................

To avoid obeying the calls of nature, he used to put a stick down his throat after eating and so cause himself to vomit. This was called neuli karam. He was believed to possess the power (called joga bhias) of being able to hold his breath for a longtime without showing any sign of life. He was a great-opium eater and when visitors called on him the first thing he offered them was opium.
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* There is a prophecy- in the Hindu Shastars to the effect that " Neh Kalank Avatar " will be born in the house of a Khatri in village Sarabhal in the Moradabad district in Sambat 1940 A.D. 1883-84.
† So called because they all eat in common.

References - 1. A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/K,p.570-71
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Atrocious piece of writing on a Jat Saint !!

The learned author seems to have failed to understand the Yoga and Yogic qualities and exercises of the saint and has imputed him as a druggist engaged in spreading use of drug/intoxicant.

What happened of the prophecy quoted above, any clue please.
 
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Rajpalji the saint was not properly understood by HA Rose. We did not know earlier about him and his sect. I thought it it better to bring him on our site. We need further research about the saint, correct the version and update info. So page has been created here - [Wiki]Kundah-panthi[/Wiki]
 
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lrburdak said:
What is Mawli ?

Mawli or Mavli (मावली) is a local goddess worshipped by Jats, as well as other communities in Rajasthan, particularly Nagaur, Churu, Sikar etc being Jat dominated. Every village has a temple of the this Goddess. She is supposed to be protector of the village. It is believed that Mavli rectifies some physical disorders. The bride and bridegroom in Rajasthan first visit the Mavli temple to get blessings.

In very remote Bastar area in Chhatisgarh near Orissa tribal people worship the same goddess Mavli Devi. She is one of goddesses worshipped by Muria, Mahara and Rawat communities. Tribal Villagers believe that this Devi protects villagers from evil effects.

Does two very remote and far away inaccessible areas having same local common deity points to common origin ?
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Burdak ji, interesting finding about the goddess Mawli.

In my opinion, common goddesses may or may not point towards common origins. Sometimes when communities/ethnicity intermingle or one is conquered by the other, certain deities cross over or gain new worshipers.
 
swaich said:
Burdak ji, interesting finding about the goddess Mawli.

In my opinion, common goddesses may or may not point towards common origins. Sometimes when communities/ethnicity intermingle or one is conquered by the other, certain deities cross over or gain new worshipers.
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Friend,

You have explained a very vital issue how adherent of various gods/goddesses garner support of folks to their camps to worship the deities.

Thanks
 
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