shamshermalik said:
One More thing Shobhit...False claim only damage a society as they become rumours. My point here is not to talk about the useless and senseless things. I have already mentioed that we have few glimpses of glorious past and I have full knowldge of that. But talking too much about past..that too useless stuff is wastage of resourses.
This thread is specifically started keeping that thing in mind...so that we focus on present rather than useless claims.
Shamsher
"Whoever wishes to foresee the future must consult the past; for human events ever resemble those of preceding times. This arises from the fact that they are produced by men who ever have been, and ever shall be, animated by the same passions, and thus they necessarily have the same results.
Machiavelli"
Dear Shamsher, you call certain discussions wastage of resources and useless, may be you are right, and I envy you for that. I have been wasting time all through my life discussing our past and nourishing my mind with the emotion called "pride", and that pride comes from past to this present-- All over the world people had this connection to past, having that pinch of superiority around them-be it be americans or british-all through our life we were fed that british civilized us and we were fools and snake charmers---they took pride from us. Willaim cunnigham and Sir james todd have always been cited for our history who were rajput kins. both of them shaped the history in favour of early aryans, we were always called a later wave of sythio aryans. History which is so distorted, so devoid in memory so very absurd needs to be reviewed discussed and reframed and this is better than cracking jokes which lead to nothing!
How so true have u been while pointing out the centuries old ills which prevailed in our society, sex ratio haryana, female foeticides, suppression of female gender all of them are somehow somewhere related to our past, i feel shamed in accepting this that one of brothers is not concerned about what why ,when and how went wrong
If u know it as u said plz come fwd to let all others know what it was, so that we could take a corrective action. Also, dear correction and corrective action as very well described above are two different things and we should look for corrective action.
If u go little deep in history around the world-right from britain where women got voting rights in 1918 to china where women had to bound feets, to america where blacks were melted out treatment inhuman in every possible way till 60's, u will find tht one race of JATs have been providing thr ladies with all rights- Thakur badan singh, maharaja surajmal, maharaja prithiviraj chauhan all of them urged ladies to get swords and abandon parda. Read satyarth prakash and u will read nemerous examples of jats challenging brahamanical customs--dayanand saraswati was not JAt but no less than one in his attitude.
so malik shaab, pay heed to the discussions over history.
During Indira's time--we had great coincidence of having KN RAO as RAW chief, PN DHAR as principal secretary to PMS following HASKAR and the like were dominating most powerful theatre of India--u must have guessed, all were kashmiri pandits and this was when--ruler has no religion or caste!!
people all over world are trying to bring themselves together in name of past, ethnic similarites and even under banner of art of living....then why not us.!!
Peace..........
