Ganguly Back on Top: Right or Wrong???

[brad]

Dudi sahab what do you know about cricket?

is site ki memory khatam ho jayegi, is liye likh nahi rah ayahan.

meat = beef. meat does not mean chicken or anything else here in us.

US na, unko kiya angrezi aati hai? cricket aata hai?
boston aur NY khelta hai aur kehte hain world series. inki chall mein na phansoo to hi achcha.


I am not advocating eating beef here.
good for u.


Less then 20% of Indians are vegetarians? haha that's why they look starved. Don't they?
they are starved bcos they are starving. they are not eating. if someone is not eating u cannot know if they are vegetarian or not. they are not part of survey.

Eating chicken once a year makes a person non-vegetarian in your book.?
No. One non veg item in any meal of the day.

You know so much then!
yes, i know so much bcos i read it.

aap kaun si class mein padhte hain?

 

[itsnavin]

Ganguly should be out. He cannot handle fast bowlers. Indian problem is lack of aggressiveness. I think lack of sufficient meat in diet is 1 reason. Saab ke saab mariyal nazar aate haeen. These people look like they haven't eaten food for some time. They are not fit.
Why has pakistan produced so many fast bowlers? Meat is one reason. Meat eaters are by nature aggressive. Once in while a kapil dev comes along but that is rare.

Bandhu...kya baat kar rahe ho...aggression ka meat eaters se relation nikaal rahe ho...koi mathematical theoram thoda hee hai yeh...koi aisa logic to diya karo jo atleast sun-ney mein to theek lage...yeh to wahi baat ho gayi "Murga to apni jaan se gya aur miyan hee ko maja hee nahin aaya..."

 

[itsnavin]

Dudi sahab what do you know about cricket?
meat = beef. meat does not mean chicken or anything else here in us.
I am not advocating eating beef here.
Less then 20% of Indians are vegetarians? haha that's why they look starved. Don't they? Eating chicken once a year makes a person non-vegetarian in your book.? You know so much then!
And you are correct these freeloading cricketers can afford to be non-fit. All they have to do is to show up and lose again and again.

This is the first time I am hearing a relationship between meat and cricket.
Jit bhai...why don't you advt. this on TV and tell it to BCCI that only muslims are allowed to play for India as they are the only meat(beef) eaters...otherwise u make ur own team...

It seems u don't read ur post before posting...ek baar padh liya karo jo tumne likha hai...

 

[itsnavin]

"Nothing succeeds like success" That is true in every scenario. We have seen great following for Pataudi, Gavaskar, Kapil and Azheruddin, and also seen the people ready to chop their heads when they failed. So, Ganguly's case is no different. But is he solely responsible for what is happening? Yes as the leader of the side he needs to take the blame for it which he has very gracefully accepted. Why I personally prefer Ganguly over Dravid is because when we lost in Sri Lanka, Dravid said we ran close. That is the worst statement a Captain can make. There are no rewards for runners up.

Trying out Venu at # 3 was not a bad idea. If just this young boy did not get the first delivery of his innings as one of the best the bowler could bowl. That was tough luck for young "Venu". But the culprits as a batsman had been our own Veeru, Yuvraj, and Ganguly himself. If we can afford consistently unperforming or under performing Sehwag, then why not Ganguly, at least he is doing one job better than others have been able to do.

The fighting spirit as well as taking things too easy both emerged out from this game. I feel this may be one of the best game one could have watched. We gave away initiative when we should not have after Nehra and Pathan had put up one of their best performances. Then we failed to bat 50 overs. It looks to me that Mr. Sehwag wanted to score 215 runs in two overs. I guess he needs to get his math right. Yadav and Pathan showed the others that the opposition was not as fierce as it was made out to be. I hope the rest of the team learn lessons from the innings Yadav and Pathan played and they themselves don't get carried away with this one performance.

Tavathia ji
Positive side dekhtey rahengey...aur matches haartey rahengey...
I hope u saw yesterday Ashes 4th Test match...and see the Aussies...129 runs bananey bhari padd gaye England ko...pasina dila diya...

Isliye main to yeh kehta hun ki if u lose, atleast opposition ko pasina to dila hee do...why surrender meekly!!

 

[itsnavin]

Trying out Venu at # 3 was not a bad idea. If just this young boy did not get the first delivery of his innings as one of the best the bowler could bowl. That was tough luck for young "Venu". But the culprits as a batsman had been our own Veeru, Yuvraj, and Ganguly himself. If we can afford consistently unperforming or under performing Sehwag, then why not Ganguly, at least he is doing one job better than others have been able to do.

Venu failed at the first ball of Bond in the last match at No 3 position. Today he got out at 3rd ball against Zim. Would you still favor him?
In today match against Zim, it seems that Indians have forgot how to bat. I don't know why they are feeling so much pressure.

Jab jeetna nahin hai to pressure kaisa?

 

[raj2rif]

Yes

Venu failed at the first ball of Bond in the last match at No 3 position. Today he got out at 3rd ball against Zim. Would you still favor him?
In today match against Zim, it seems that Indians have forgot how to bat. I don't know why they are feeling so much pressure.

Jab jeetna nahin hai to pressure kaisa?

Yes, Venu got out at 3rd ball, but that does not take away the fact that he is a better player than those not in the team. He is not a specialist opener, and to that extent it should go to his credit that he is playing where ever he has been asked to bat. Having opened the innings my self, I fully know what it takes to face the first few overs in a cricket game, specially if the stuff is coming at 150 miles an hour.

I would go and persist with him for atleast this series, and see if he can translate his talent into runs. If he does not, then he will not have the doubt that he was not given the chance.

Actually, I don't know who the third opener that was selected for the tour? If it was Mr. Dhoni, than he shold have opened today, or if it was Yuvraj, then he should have come in. But now since we are trying Venu, let us persist with him and give him some chance to succeed.

 

[haryanajat]

beef=meat. When americans start playing cricket they will be the dominant force though it will take some time. Dudi sahab unko baseball aati hae. Baseball is harder then cricket. Have you ever seen a professional baseball game? Unlike cricket the ball can be pitched in many different ways and it comes at you at a much faster speed.
There is a relation between eating meat and being aggressive. Why has pakistan produced so many fast bowlers? While India has produced not even 1 genuine fast bowler?

 

[arunshamli]

(beef=meet) does not necessarily make you a good sports person

beef=meat. When americans start playing cricket they will be the dominant force though it will take some time. Dudi sahab unko baseball aati hae. Baseball is harder then cricket. Have you ever seen a professional baseball game? Unlike cricket the ball can be pitched in many different ways and it comes at you at a much faster speed.
There is a relation between eating meat and being aggressive. Why has pakistan produced so many fast bowlers? While India has produced not even 1 genuine fast bowler?

Bangladesh, WestIndies , Kenia , Zimbabwe they all are beef eaters. lagta hai ke westindies walon ne aajkal beef khana band kar diya hai...
and what about pakistan....they are no better than India.

 

[itsnavin]

When americans start playing cricket they will be the dominant force though it will take some time.

Americans ko bhee dekh lengey...

I bet, if one day American have a cricket team, I am sure it'll be crowded with Indian, Pakis, Brits or Aussies immigrants. And take down the main difference between baseball and cricket is that cricket ball pitches but baseball never. And if u know about swings and spins of cricket...I think it'll break American's back.

 

[haryanajat]

Bangladesh, WestIndies , Kenia , Zimbabwe they all are beef eaters. lagta hai ke westindies walon ne aajkal beef khana band kar diya hai...
and what about pakistan....they are no better than India.

how long have they been playing? India is no better then bangladesh or zimbabwe these days. Pakistan is better then india. They have produced world class genuine fast bowlers. Imran khan, wasim akram, waqar, akhtar and they keep coming. I would say pakistani bowlers have been better then India bowlers overall.

 

[haryanajat]

Americans ko bhee dekh lengey...

I bet, if one day American have a cricket team, I am sure it'll be crowded with Indian, Pakis, Brits or Aussies immigrants. And take down the main difference between baseball and cricket is that cricket ball pitches but baseball never. And if u know about swings and spins of cricket...I think it'll break American's back.

How many medals in any sports has India won internationally? say in olympics? can count on fingers of 1 hand. What does it say about India? The main requirement to play any sports is fitness and athletic ability. Indians don't have it at the world level.
I think you have never seen a baseball game in person and don't know the rules thats why you say that. Baseball can be thrown in more ways then the cricket ball. Its much harder to hit a baseball and there is no helmet or pads to protect you with the ball coming into your face with an average of 95 miles an hour with many more variety of spins and swings then the cricket ball. lagta hae french hawa lag gayee. jaab zarrorat hotee hae tho americans ke paas he aate haieen.

 

[arunshamli]

how long have they been playing? India is no better then bangladesh or zimbabwe these days. Pakistan is better then india. They have produced world class genuine fast bowlers. Imran khan, wasim akram, waqar, akhtar and they keep coming. I would say pakistani bowlers have been better then India bowlers overall.

you did not write anything about WestIndies

Zimbabwe has been playing for at least 23 Years(I remember they played in WC 1983, which India won )
Bangladesh: 12-15 years

lagta hai ye log beef wala protien ko theek se pacha nahi pa rahe hain.

Akhtar the most aggressive player in the world is struggling to find a place in Pakistan team...

I agree, India is no better then Bangladesh.

 

[haryanajat]

you did not write anything about WestIndies

Zimbabwe has been playing for at least 23 Years(I remember they played in WC 1983, which India won )
Bangladesh: 12-15 years

lagta hai ye log beef wala protien ko theek se pacha nahi pa rahe hain.

Akhtar the most aggressive player in the world is struggling to find a place in Pakistan team...

I agree, India is no better then Bangladesh.

west Indians have taken up baseball, thats why.
akhat has tantrums that is why he is struggling to find..

 

[itsnavin]

How many medals in any sports has India won internationally? say in olympics? can count on fingers of 1 hand. What does it say about India? The main requirement to play any sports is fitness and athletic ability. Indians don't have it at the world level.
I think you have never seen a baseball game in person and don't know the rules thats why you say that. Baseball can be thrown in more ways then the cricket ball. Its much harder to hit a baseball and there is no helmet or pads to protect you with the ball coming into your face with an average of 95 miles an hour with many more variety of spins and swings then the cricket ball. lagta hae french hawa lag gayee. jaab zarrorat hotee hae tho americans ke paas he aate haieen.

Chalo theek hai mujhe to french hawa lag gayi...tum kya sochtey ho tum desi rehh gaye ho??? main kamm se kaam apne desh ko support to kar raha hun...and they are atleast playing cricket...aur tum?? Tum to bandhu uss nation ki baat kar rahe ho(means USA) jinko cricket ka naam bhee nahin pata...FYI..US mein US citizens cricket nahin kheltey, desis cricket kheltey hain...mujhe to aisa lag raha hai ki 'Diye tale andhera hai'...tum US mein rehh kar bhee unke baarein mein nahin jaantey...

BTW, tell me one thing, do u feel anything positive about India. US walon ne kya aisi ghooti pila dee tujhe...I think u better get back to work and prepare a US cricket team(only US citizens) and come to any street in India...shakal dikhaney layak nahin rahengey...

To keep u happy, I admit that baseball is a better game than cricket...kahan baseball aur kahan cricket!! Baseball ke players to slaughter houses mein paida hote hain and kaatdey ka khoon peetey hain. Aur cricket wale becharey 'green meadows' mein chartey hain...OK! That's what u want me to say...happy!

I think this thread was started in a good spirit to discuss problematic issues in Indian cricket team but changed the course of the discussion. Let's stick to the topic if u want to. Otherwise, ultey-pultey logic matt do...like "meat eaters are good bowlers", "US can produce best cricket team"..yahan koi nahin maanney wala tumhari iss baat ko...AND stop wasting ur time in this thread!!

 

[haryanajat]

Chalo theek hai mujhe to french hawa lag gayi...tum kya sochtey ho tum desi rehh gaye ho??? main kamm se kaam apne desh ko support to kar raha hun...and they are atleast playing cricket...aur tum?? Tum to bandhu uss nation ki baat kar rahe ho(means USA) jinko cricket ka naam bhee nahin pata...FYI..US mein US citizens cricket nahin kheltey, desis cricket kheltey hain...mujhe to aisa lag raha hai ki 'Diye tale andhera hai'...tum US mein rehh kar bhee unke baarein mein nahin jaantey...

BTW, tell me one thing, do u feel anything positive about India. US walon ne kya aisi ghooti pila dee tujhe...I think u better get back to work and prepare a US cricket team(only US citizens) and come to any street in India...shakal dikhaney layak nahin rahengey...

To keep u happy, I admit that baseball is a better game than cricket...kahan baseball aur kahan cricket!! Baseball ke players to slaughter houses mein paida hote hain and kaatdey ka khoon peetey hain. Aur cricket wale becharey 'green meadows' mein chartey hain...OK! That's what u want me to say...happy!

I think this thread was started in a good spirit to discuss problematic issues in Indian cricket team but changed the course of the discussion. Let's stick to the topic if u want to. Otherwise, ultey-pultey logic matt do...like "meat eaters are good bowlers", "US can produce best cricket team"..yahan koi nahin maanney wala tumhari iss baat ko...AND stop wasting ur time in this thread!!

Listen when I say americans I mean white and black not Indians.
us mein tho soccer bhi nahee khelte and they are in the top 10 teams in the world. So yeh machna baand kaar.
What is this support thing? What support? If you don't play well you are out. But that's not happeneing in Indian cricket. Perhaps you cannot make a connection between good protein food and atheltic ability. Go back to kindergarten.
Tell me itna maach rahaa hayee how many medals has India won in olympics - nothing compared to what us wins 1 time in there. Who wins the medals - the person with athletic ability and the poor fitness level of the Indian cricketers in comparison to australians and other successful teams clearly shows.
I am contributing to the community by stating facts. That may not be to your liking but nonetheless they are facts.

 

[itsnavin]

Listen when I say americans I mean white and black not Indians.
us mein tho soccer bhi nahee khelte and they are in the top 10 teams in the world. So yeh machna baand kaar.
What is this support thing? What support? If you don't play well you are out. But that's not happeneing in Indian cricket. Perhaps you cannot make a connection between good protein food and atheltic ability. Go back to kindergarten.
Tell me itna maach rahaa hayee how many medals has India won in olympics - nothing compared to what us wins 1 time in there. Who wins the medals - the person with athletic ability and the poor fitness level of the Indian cricketers in comparison to australians and other successful teams clearly shows.
I am contributing to the community by stating facts. That may not be to your liking but nonetheless they are facts.

Bekaar ki behas karne se kya faayda. Tanney thread ki issi-tessi te kar dee.. I know u r contributing positively to ur community but point of contention was "meat eaters are better cricketers(bowlers)". Give some concrete proof to support ur statements. Till this point u didn't provide anything acceptable. Tumne kaha aur maine maan liya...aisa nahin hone wala...

Rahi baat..Indian cricket team ki fitness and athletic ability ki...where were u when they were in world cup finals? Nothing succeeds like success!! Lean patch ke time par sab danda le kar chadd jaatey hain. Kuch baat palley padi! Did u read all my posts about cricket on Jatland? Padh lena...Aisa nahin hai ki India mein better players nahin hai...politics ki wajeh se woh frontline mein nahin aa paatey...it's changing but gradually. I've many a times criticised their selection policies...inclusion of ganguly etc etc. Lekin that's for sure Indian cricket ke paas cricketers ki kami nahin hai...they need to get a chance. Their time will change soon. but I won't agree with ur "protein deficiency" things.

And don't try to compare Indian and US Olympic medals. Eveyone knows this very well. Let's keep this discussion about cricket.

Now, listen! I'll wait for the day when US cricket team will have a better ICC rating than Indian cricket team. I think u'll have to take another janam for this thing to happen. Aur jab woh ho jaye, bandhu, ek mail drop kar dena. May be I believe ur words then. Don't blame my overconfidence but I am like that.

And now, we better take leave from this thread.

 

[mukeshkumar007]

Dear All,

Earlier I felt that this time Ganguly would be able to get his prievious day by scoring well. But in this series he failed three time that is not good for the team because he is a captain and he have to inspire his team fellows by scoring good run. But he has not been able to do his best in every field (neither as a captain nor as a batsman). Now He seems a burdon on team.

So now we have no other options but to droop him from Team India. Drooping him would be good decision for the team when Next world is only 6 month far. We need to replace him by a younger.
(I would prefer Irfan Pathan).

 

[itsnavin]

Dear All,

Earlier I felt that this time Ganguly would be able to get his prievious day by scoring well. But in this series he failed three time that is not good for the team because he is a captain and he have to inspire his team fellows by scoring good run. But he has not been able to do his best in every field (neither as a captain nor as a batsman). Now He seems a burdon on team.

So now we have no other options but to droop him from Team India. Drooping him would be good decision for the team when Next world is only 6 month far. We need to replace him by a younger.
(I would prefer Irfan Pathan).

That's what I am stressing since long!

My choice will be Sachin...he should be given another chance...

 

[deepakchoudhry]

Ganguly as Captain

India has no choice but Ganguly, Although He has failed as a batsman in recent times but he is a very good captain.

World Cup is 2 years away and BCCI wants him there until then.

But I think he wont last beyond 2007.

Greg Chappell will provide much needed agression and discpline to the team.

Wait and watch..this team is going to rock.

Australia, England and India will Dominate world Cricket for next 2 years.

 

[mkrana]

Just on a second thought... how Ganguly performed when he played under some other captain eg. Dravid Any stats ?