Gohana(Sonipat)

[hamendra]

Please go through the news and please comment

http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/01dalit.htm

http://ind.jagran.com/NewsSite/citynews.asp?storyid=1715620&cityid=16&stateid=6&lpageno=2

 

[devdahiya]

BHAI HAMENDRA read it also and sawit on TV too

Please go through the news and please comment

http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/01dalit.htm

Aissa lagta hai ki Bhuppi Hooda ko CM nahi rehne denge........KAHIN PE NIGAHEN KAHIN PE NISHANA.

 

[jitendershooda]

Media .....

There is a dalit basti ( chudhe hein sare ) in mid of Gohana. All these so called innocent dalits are involved in the Smuggling, Smake and loot pat and murders...

1. 2-3 months ago they killed a person from Butana ...
2. Now on 27 th aug they killed one Jat from Ghadwal village of siwach's and kaliraman's.
3. Recently they kidnapped one girl from Kathura village and Raped her ...
4. All the surrounding residents of gohana were very much exploited of their daily loot paat and ched chad with thier girls and ladies ..

Now the pachayat held of 12 villages ( bahehre ki ) on last saturday and after that on wednesday .... in the last one only they have utlimated CM and the prasasan that if they will not do anything till 12 wednesday then we will do like this ....

Yesterday night i was watching NDTV and there the media persons were only potraying all this like that the dalits were innocent and it gone all exploitation of them ....blamed Pardeep son of sh. kishan singh sangwan, though he was there in the panchayat but the decision was of the panchyat all over.

They were intervewing one of the dalits who told so much innocently that they all were small workers and donot know why all this happen to their villages ...

Media again showed that they only need material to falsh upon and nowhere they were interested in finding the actual reality and bring it in front first rather than calling the same song of dalit exploitation.

Look to those victims of these Chudhas ... Here i want to bring forward how that Siwach was killed on 27th. He was beaten so badly first and then they broke his neck !!!!!! is it humanity and what is done is very less to them !!!

The youth of this bahra are saying to chop all of the victims when and where they will find them ...... this is exactly right as prasasan will not do such things ....

 

[hamendra]

Jitendra Hooda Jee,

Thanks for detailed info.
Yesterday, all the news channels just talking about Dalits and blaming only Jats. I am really fad up with the media.

Please put more comments on it.

 

[singh1981]

Sorry Mr. hooda. ..but i am not agrry with u...Its a really shamefull act by jats of gohana.

"what is done is very less to them !!! " what else do u want. Ek jat maara(kisne mara abhi tak pata nahi) aur uske badle main logon ki puri basti jala do.. aap ky achahte thae ki uske badle main un sabhi 2000 logon ko bhi us basti kai saath jala dete...Just think about this on humanitarian ground.

aur media se aap kya chahte hain.....aake bole ki boss kya mahan kaam kiya hai...aapko to veerta chakar meelna chahiye...Aur vo vahan kai sansad Mr sangwaan...media ki ek baat ka jawab nahi de paaye...
Agar unhe aur unke saath jin logon ko bhi lagat hai ki jo hua thik hua...to jaao apne aap ko defend kar kai dekhao.....do media ki baaton ka jawab ...

The truth is un logon nai pure desh kai saamne Jaaton kai moonh pai kaalikh poth di..

really shamefull act...

==
Sukhbir

 

[virmaramjyani]

i m a media person bt unfortunately media persenting wrong thing. it was just newton`s third law..aCTION & REACTION THEORY. hamari history rahi ki hamne hamala nahin kiya hai sirf hamalon ka munh otd jawab diya hai......

 

[hamendra]

i m a media person bt unfortunately media persenting wrong thing. it was just newton`s third law..aCTION & REACTION THEORY. hamari history rahi ki hamne hamala nahin kiya hai sirf hamalon ka munh otd jawab diya hai......

Great Bhai,

That's the fact.

 

[gaganjat]

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[gaganjat]

Gohane tai likadte hi road pe pahlya gaam mahra sai "Ghadi ghilala'
Ar manne aaj tahi isa kuch nhi suna tha.

Ib Jata nai kuch kiya hai to , theek hi kiya hoga.

Mera Dada panchayte hai. Ar manne bera sai ude ki panchayat andy kaam kiya kare.

50 ghar kya 500 admi jalane chayie the jato ko. Human rights ki issi tissi.

Sorry Mr. hooda. ..but i am not agrry with u...Its a really shamefull act by jats of gohana.

"what is done is very less to them !!! " what else do u want. Ek jat maara(kisne mara abhi tak pata nahi) aur uske badle main logon ki puri basti jala do.. aap ky achahte thae ki uske badle main un sabhi 2000 logon ko bhi us basti kai saath jala dete...Just think about this on humanitarian ground.

aur media se aap kya chahte hain.....aake bole ki boss kya mahan kaam kiya hai...aapko to veerta chakar meelna chahiye...Aur vo vahan kai sansad Mr sangwaan...media ki ek baat ka jawab nahi de paaye...
Agar unhe aur unke saath jin logon ko bhi lagat hai ki jo hua thik hua...to jaao apne aap ko defend kar kai dekhao.....do media ki baaton ka jawab ...

The truth is un logon nai pure desh kai saamne Jaaton kai moonh pai kaalikh poth di..

really shamefull act...

==
Sukhbir

 

[lathwaal2003]

?????????

dear members


yeh jo baat hai ki media is right that was just in the begining dayz of media..now a days media is jus like a baniye ki dukaan kaun kitna masala bechta hai ....kisi bhi baat ke saath apna kucch jod do aur paisa kamao...........media ko to joot marne chahiye ......situation control main help karna to door yeh media use aur bhadka dete hain.............dekho plus minus har cheez ke hain but media is using its power in wrong way ....coz they kno nobody blaim them so they r doin wt they want..............aur yeh jo ek bhai kah raha hai ki jaton ne naam kharaab kar diya bhai tu na apna change karwa le aur unke saath mil jaa.........theek hai humne wahan jaton ne galat kiya par pahle unhone kiya naa ..........dekho aatte ke saath ghun to pista hi hai usme koi kucch nahin kar sakta .........unhe koi isliye nahin kucch kahega coz they r of low caste hmmmm yeh cast ke chakkar mein pahle hi bada nuksaan ho chuka hai yeh low caste wale mast kucch na karein naam naam likh aayein form par inki selection ...........to yeh sab galat hai hum jat hain to hum par hi baat aayegi aisa sochna galat hai.............

surender lathwaal

 

[virmaramjyani]

lathwal bhaisaab aapka kehna sahi hai... lekin itni gali bhee mat do. apne log media mein anguliyon par gine ja sakte hain isliye sahi facts ko pesh karna sambhav nahin hai.

 

[singh1981]

bhai tu media ti chod .....jalte ghar to tane bhi dekhe honge TV pai...ek vo bhi media nai nakli dikhaye...
aur ek bhai bolen lag tahya hai ...ki 500 aadmi hi jala dene tahe....ek baat bata sabne maar kai tu kai aude kala geet gave ga....arr rai baat panchayat ki to maine bhi dekh rakhya hai panchayat kise kaam kiya kare....

aate kai saath ghun bhi pista hai....
ghun aur insan mai kime pharak hota hai ki nahi.....aur yahi harkat agar vo kar dete to ..ghar unke jaale hain....baki logon kai bhi jaal sakte thae......biwi bachee unke hain ...to wahan rahne waale baki logon kai bhi hain....nu choti-2 mansikta leke ek dusare ka ghar phookan lag gaye to chal liya kaam....

aur maine to pahle bhi kaha tha...agar jinhe lagat hai ki jo kiya thik kiya..vo samane aayein....bataein duniya ko ....agar wakai unhe lagat hai ki unhone kuch galat nahi kiya rakhein sabke samane apna maat ..aab kyon panchayat lukhti handan lag rahi hai.. kyonki unhe bhi maalum hai unhone jokiya hai vo galat hai...

bhai mere main bhi chahta hoon ki jaaton ki chavi sudhre......jab vo ndtv waali bandi baar -2 bole rahi thi ki jaaton nai ghar jala diye...aur Jaaton pai jis sercastic way mai vo stress daal rahi .....aapka logon ka to pata nahi par mujhe vo bahut chub raha tha...lekin kuch nahi kar sakta tha...kyonki jo vo bole rahi such tha......

nyway is there any other member here who feels ki jo hua galat hua...

dear members


yeh jo baat hai ki media is right that was just in the begining dayz of media..now a days media is jus like a baniye ki dukaan kaun kitna masala bechta hai ....kisi bhi baat ke saath apna kucch jod do aur paisa kamao...........media ko to joot marne chahiye ......situation control main help karna to door yeh media use aur bhadka dete hain.............dekho plus minus har cheez ke hain but media is using its power in wrong way ....coz they kno nobody blaim them so they r doin wt they want..............aur yeh jo ek bhai kah raha hai ki jaton ne naam kharaab kar diya bhai tu na apna change karwa le aur unke saath mil jaa.........theek hai humne wahan jaton ne galat kiya par pahle unhone kiya naa ..........dekho aatte ke saath ghun to pista hi hai usme koi kucch nahin kar sakta .........unhe koi isliye nahin kucch kahega coz they r of low caste hmmmm yeh cast ke chakkar mein pahle hi bada nuksaan ho chuka hai yeh low caste wale mast kucch na karein naam naam likh aayein form par inki selection ...........to yeh sab galat hai hum jat hain to hum par hi baat aayegi aisa sochna galat hai.............

surender lathwaal

 

[hamendra]

bhai tu media ti chod .....jalte ghar to tane bhi dekhe honge TV pai...ek vo bhi media nai nakli dikhaye...
aur ek bhai bolen lag tahya hai ...ki 500 aadmi hi jala dene tahe....ek baat bata sabne maar kai tu kai aude kala geet gave ga....arr rai baat panchayat ki to maine bhi dekh rakhya hai panchayat kise kaam kiya kare....

aate kai saath ghun bhi pista hai....
ghun aur insan mai kime pharak hota hai ki nahi.....aur yahi harkat agar vo kar dete to ..ghar unke jaale hain....baki logon kai bhi jaal sakte thae......biwi bachee unke hain ...to wahan rahne waale baki logon kai bhi hain....nu choti-2 mansikta leke ek dusare ka ghar phookan lag gaye to chal liya kaam....

aur maine to pahle bhi kaha tha...agar jinhe lagat hai ki jo kiya thik kiya..vo samane aayein....bataein duniya ko ....agar wakai unhe lagat hai ki unhone kuch galat nahi kiya rakhein sabke samane apna maat ..aab kyon panchayat lukhti handan lag rahi hai.. kyonki unhe bhi maalum hai unhone jokiya hai vo galat hai...

bhai mere main bhi chahta hoon ki jaaton ki chavi sudhre......jab vo ndtv waali bandi baar -2 bole rahi thi ki jaaton nai ghar jala diye...aur Jaaton pai jis sercastic way mai vo stress daal rahi .....aapka logon ka to pata nahi par mujhe vo bahut chub raha tha...lekin kuch nahi kar sakta tha...kyonki jo vo bole rahi such tha......

nyway is there any other member here who feels ki jo hua galat hua...

Mere Bhai,

Jub Wo Jaat ka ladka mara tha media kahna gayee thee. Ghar jalne ke baad media aa gayee. UP mai harizon act laaye Jatte hai JATON par tab media kahna jaatee hai. Eak dalit ko touch kar te hee Puree Media hill jaatee hai. Hamein mai bhee dukh hota hai jab JAAT ka naam galt tareeke se liya jata hai.

 

[jitender_singh]

Hi,

aisa hai bhaad main gaya media bhaad main gayee prestige...
haan 1 baat hai galtee toh ho gayee unse .. khali ghar kyon jalaye...
unhe bhi phoonk dena tha..

humantarian ground ki asiee ki taisee ,.. jat bhi dabne lage toh ho liya fer kaam...

Regards
Jitender

 

[gaganjat]

Go there and do some reconstruction work.

No takers of your crap here.

Jatland ki jagah kisi human rights ki site pe ja.

bhai tu media ti chod .....jalte ghar to tane bhi dekhe honge TV pai...ek vo bhi media nai nakli dikhaye...
aur ek bhai bolen lag tahya hai ...ki 500 aadmi hi jala dene tahe....ek baat bata sabne maar kai tu kai aude kala geet gave ga....arr rai baat panchayat ki to maine bhi dekh rakhya hai panchayat kise kaam kiya kare....

aate kai saath ghun bhi pista hai....
ghun aur insan mai kime pharak hota hai ki nahi.....aur yahi harkat agar vo kar dete to ..ghar unke jaale hain....baki logon kai bhi jaal sakte thae......biwi bachee unke hain ...to wahan rahne waale baki logon kai bhi hain....nu choti-2 mansikta leke ek dusare ka ghar phookan lag gaye to chal liya kaam....

aur maine to pahle bhi kaha tha...agar jinhe lagat hai ki jo kiya thik kiya..vo samane aayein....bataein duniya ko ....agar wakai unhe lagat hai ki unhone kuch galat nahi kiya rakhein sabke samane apna maat ..aab kyon panchayat lukhti handan lag rahi hai.. kyonki unhe bhi maalum hai unhone jokiya hai vo galat hai...

bhai mere main bhi chahta hoon ki jaaton ki chavi sudhre......jab vo ndtv waali bandi baar -2 bole rahi thi ki jaaton nai ghar jala diye...aur Jaaton pai jis sercastic way mai vo stress daal rahi .....aapka logon ka to pata nahi par mujhe vo bahut chub raha tha...lekin kuch nahi kar sakta tha...kyonki jo vo bole rahi such tha......

nyway is there any other member here who feels ki jo hua galat hua...

 

[singh1981]

why u think this is a crap.?
this is my point of view...i am not here to prove u something ...if u r not agrry with it..thats ur problem not mine....

Go there and do some reconstruction work.

No takers of your crap here.

Jatland ki jagah kisi human rights ki site pe ja.

 

[jitendershooda]

Sorry Mr. hooda. ..but i am not agrry with u...Its a really shamefull act by jats of gohana.

"what is done is very less to them !!! " what else do u want. Ek jat maara(kisne mara abhi tak pata nahi) aur uske badle main logon ki puri basti jala do.. aap ky achahte thae ki uske badle main un sabhi 2000 logon ko bhi us basti kai saath jala dete...Just think about this on humanitarian ground.

aur media se aap kya chahte hain.....aake bole ki boss kya mahan kaam kiya hai...aapko to veerta chakar meelna chahiye...Aur vo vahan kai sansad Mr sangwaan...media ki ek baat ka jawab nahi de paaye...
Agar unhe aur unke saath jin logon ko bhi lagat hai ki jo hua thik hua...to jaao apne aap ko defend kar kai dekhao.....do media ki baaton ka jawab ...

The truth is un logon nai pure desh kai saamne Jaaton kai moonh pai kaalikh poth di..

really shamefull act...

==
Sukhbir

Dekho Sukhbir ji, I had typed there my view and i was not having in mind to collect agree's there ...

Er jit tahi " kisne mara abhi tak pata nahi !!!!!!!! "

Te yo pata kukar lage ga ?????

Sarkar batavegi Commision Baitha ke ....
Hude ke rahen aale jinki chori gail rape karya .... butane aale jinka chora marya .... ghadwal aale jinka chora sare aam peet peet ke naad tod ke marya .... uneh na bera ke is baat ka ...

I have written the reality of those people who were residents of those houses, those were burnt there ...... again ....

1. NDTV correspondant directly from Gohana :

" The reason is this that like all over India here also there is a gap between the upper and dalits and the upper caste here is JATS those can't bear that these dalits have their possession on the important lands in the cities. And that is why they are doing such acts to fear them off."

AND THIS REASON WAS NOT THE REALITY WHY THIS STEP WAS TAKEN

Not a single word on the reality about the people of that area ...around 70-80% and their families were involved in the smake and smuggling activities and in loot pat and also in the previous times they become so courageous that they:

[ MEDIA SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE REALITY OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE THE RESIDENTS AND WHY THE PEOPLE WERE ANGRY OF THEM ...... not only bark about the dalits dalits and dalits .... ]

A) Tease and raped ladies and girls.
B) Killed a person 2 months ago.
C) The Baniya's surrounding them were scared of them and their ladies were not out of their houses at odd times only because of these chudhas .....


So in this way the step was right I think so that these kind of people have such images in their mind and donot repeat such activities in future ....

 

[sumitsehrawat]

There is a dalit basti ( chudhe hein sare ) in mid of Gohana. All these so called innocent dalits are involved in the Smuggling, Smake and loot pat and murders...

1. 2-3 months ago they killed a person from Butana ...
2. Now on 27 th aug they killed one Jat from Ghadwal village of siwach's and kaliraman's.
3. Recently they kidnapped one girl from Kathura village and Raped her ...
4. All the surrounding residents of gohana were very much exploited of their daily loot paat and ched chad with thier girls and ladies ..

Now the pachayat held of 12 villages ( bahehre ki ) on last saturday and after that on wednesday .... in the last one only they have utlimated CM and the prasasan that if they will not do anything till 12 wednesday then we will do like this ....

Yesterday night i was watching NDTV and there the media persons were only potraying all this like that the dalits were innocent and it gone all exploitation of them ....blamed Pardeep son of sh. kishan singh sangwan, though he was there in the panchayat but the decision was of the panchyat all over.

They were intervewing one of the dalits who told so much innocently that they all were small workers and donot know why all this happen to their villages ...

Media again showed that they only need material to falsh upon and nowhere they were interested in finding the actual reality and bring it in front first rather than calling the same song of dalit exploitation.

Look to those victims of these Chudhas ... Here i want to bring forward how that Siwach was killed on 27th. He was beaten so badly first and then they broke his neck !!!!!! is it humanity and what is done is very less to them !!!

The youth of this bahra are saying to chop all of the victims when and where they will find them ...... this is exactly right as prasasan will not do such things ....

Bhai Hooda mere khyaal to kuch aur hi hai.

I personally feel this act of burning houses is very shameful.

We should ask ourselves, is it not true that, most of the times, we only start it. "yo chamaar...yo chudhaaa....yo julaaahe ka". We only make their lives terrible in villages. Dont' we ??? nobody knows the true story. Maybe the Jat guy who got murdered was himself responsible for his death. I have myself seen all this happening in villages. "yo chamaar ka chora nyu koookar bol padya ...maaaro saaale kai"....we all know what follows next. Maybe these dalits indulge themselves in loot paat, smuggling, etc etc......but is this the way they should be dealt with?????

About 50 houses were burnt .....about 2000 people fled from the villages in order to save their lives. It is a very inhuman act and calls for a punishment. It is not just about supporting Jats just because we are Jats. There is something beyond it as well ....humanity. I guess, not all of those who suffered were responsible for a Jat youth killing, smuggling, loot paat, rape, etc etc. Many of those who fled were children......

And it is not about Gohana or Jhajjar, it is in fact happening all over Haryana and in Delhi. We outdo them in numbers and show them our way. We generally do so. I doubt if the same Jats can do the same things to lower caste people in other states......somewhere far out of their hometown.

It is a matter of deep concern and all the perpetrators should be punished in order to avoid such a situation to arise again.

It was an act which made my head go down in shame while watching news last night with my fellow non-Haryana friends.

$umit
P.S.: jiski laathi uski bhais waaali baat hai yeh to....but isn't it wrong? No????

We should not exploit the poor and should not dread the strong. That is called living life the Jat way.

 

[singh1981]

No comments from our elder members.....I wanna to know there views on this...

 

[sumitsehrawat]

Dekho Sukhbir ji, I had typed there my view and i was not having in mind to collect agree's there ...

Er jit tahi " kisne mara abhi tak pata nahi !!!!!!!! "

Te yo pata kukar lage ga ?????

Sarkar batavegi Commision Baitha ke ....
Hude ke rahen aale jinki chori gail rape karya .... butane aale jinka chora marya .... ghadwal aale jinka chora sare aam peet peet ke naad tod ke marya .... uneh na bera ke is baat ka ...

I have written the reality of those people who were residents of those houses, those were burnt there ...... again ....

1. NDTV correspondant directly from Gohana :

" The reason is this that like all over India here also there is a gap between the upper and dalits and the upper caste here is JATS those can't bear that these dalits have their possession on the important lands in the cities. And that is why they are doing such acts to fear them off."

AND THIS REASON WAS NOT THE REALITY WHY THIS STEP WAS TAKEN

Not a single word on the reality about the people of that area ...around 70-80% and their families were involved in the smake and smuggling activities and in loot pat and also in the previous times they become so courageous that they:

[ MEDIA SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE REALITY OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE THE RESIDENTS AND WHY THE PEOPLE WERE ANGRY OF THEM ...... not only bark about the dalits dalits and dalits .... ]

A) Tease and raped ladies and girls.
B) Killed a person 2 months ago.
C) The Baniya's surrounding them were scared of them and their ladies were not out of their houses at odd times only because of these chudhas .....


So in this way the step was right I think so that these kind of people have such images in their mind and donot repeat such activities in future ....

<<<So in this way the step was right I think so that these kind of people have such images in their mind and donot repeat such activities in future ....>>>

Such a horrendous step?????????????
Cmmon friend, after all we all are human beings. I think these people already dread us...the Jats.

As far as the repetition of such an event is concerned....only time would tell if it would or would not.

$umit