Higher Education in Canada and USA

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dear sir.....i waz going thru ..ur msg regarding the higher studies in US and Cannada.well it would be great if u can help me out in getting some information regarding PHd programs there .I m right now working as a lecturer in india...i wanna pursue my Phd....so lemme know how can v apply for it...n wat is basic requirement.....i wanna pursue my PHD in environmental sciences....or it cuold be in environmental geography....plz lemme know.....thanking u....wid regards dolly
 
Hi Guys

As far as studying in US is concerned, DON'T try to come here until and unless you get a good funding from the university. Now the million dollar question, how to get funding ? Well, it depends upon:

1) Your eductaional background in India, if you are from IIT's or IIM's, your life is all set.

2) Your GRE score, if it's good and you are not from any reputed institute in India, it "might" help you in getting a funding.

Please don't come under the impression that some how you will manage to get funding in the second semester, if you don't get in the first. If that doesn't happen, you might find yourself in some sort of financial trouble.

My comments might sound discouraging, but that's the truth. But, if you are one of those who can survive in any condition, who believe in "never say die" attitude, you will have a good future, funding or no funding.

The best thing about this country is that your hard work never goes in vain. Some point in time, you will be successful and happy, but be prepared for the initial struggle.

Its all about destiny:D

`Ajay
 
Hi Abhimanyu

Abhi,

I know this question is for Birbal Sir, but I would like to make few suggestions( For USA ):

1.Can i apply for a work visa directly and move there to work?
Ans: You can do that, if you can find a company to sponsor your H1B. But DON'T pay anyone for your H1B, there are realy good firms to sponsor it.

2. If not what would be more feasable,an MBA or an MS in something technical?
Ans: Abhi, first of all make your mind, whether to do MBA or MS. It all depends upon your liking, both are feasible. But MBA is costlier than MS.

3.If i do an MBA (which im most keen on)in marketing/finance would they consider my IT exp as relevant?
Ans: Yes, and most of the MBA institutes consider work ex as a criteria for selection.

4.Im starting to prepare for my GMAT so by the time ill finish i will have 3yrs of work ex,is it sufficient or should i wait before i start sending applications.
Ans: 3 years is a good time, so don't wait any further unless you want to because of some other reason.

5.Im looking at Australia also since education will be more affordable there.
Ans: No idea about Australia.

I hope this helps.

Ajay





abhimanyu09 said:
Hello sir,
After going through this thread all i can say is u are a boon to our community.
Im working as a software consultant with Tata Consultancy Services,Bangalore.
I work on a technology called Citrix and have around 2 years of work ex in IT.

Now im planning for higher education,cud be Australia,Cananda or USA.
There are a few things id like to know before i make my decision.
1.Can i apply for a work visa directly and move there to work?
2.If not what would be more feasable,an MBA or an MS in something technical?
3.If i do an MBA (which im most keen on)in marketing/finance would they consider my IT exp as relevant?
4.Im starting to prepare for my GMAT so by the time ill finish i will have 3yrs of work ex,is it sufficient or should i wait before i start sending applications.
5.Im looking at Australia also since education will be more affordable there.

Will be very grateful to you if you could take some time out and answer my queries.
Thank you
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Abhimanyu,

Ajay has answered your questions. The one thing I can add that recently, the Canadian Govt. changed regulation allowing students to get work permit for off campus work. It has really changed the situation and now if someone is hard working and determined, higher education in Canada is advantageous.

Also, for MBA, it is important to get admission in the highest ranked program possible. One of my nephews came to Univ of Michigan (very high tuition fees) but it paid off big time as he got a great summer job and job after graduation with signing bonus. Some of the Canadian MBA programs are fairly high ranked in international rankings too.



abhimanyu09 said:
Hello sir,
After going through this thread all i can say is u are a boon to our community.
Im working as a software consultant with Tata Consultancy Services,Bangalore.
I work on a technology called Citrix and have around 2 years of work ex in IT.

Now im planning for higher education,cud be Australia,Cananda or USA.
There are a few things id like to know before i make my decision.
1.Can i apply for a work visa directly and move there to work?
2.If not what would be more feasable,an MBA or an MS in something technical?
3.If i do an MBA (which im most keen on)in marketing/finance would they consider my IT exp as relevant?
4.Im starting to prepare for my GMAT so by the time ill finish i will have 3yrs of work ex,is it sufficient or should i wait before i start sending applications.
5.Im looking at Australia also since education will be more affordable there.

Will be very grateful to you if you could take some time out and answer my queries.
Thank you
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dolly2003 said:
dear sir.....i waz going thru ..ur msg regarding the higher studies in US and Cannada.well it would be great if u can help me out in getting some information regarding PHd programs there .I m right now working as a lecturer in india...i wanna pursue my Phd....so lemme know how can v apply for it...n wat is basic requirement.....i wanna pursue my PHD in environmental sciences....or it cuold be in environmental geography....plz lemme know.....thanking u....wid regards dolly
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Dolly,

The fact that you are working as a Lecturer in India can be helpful in improving your chances of a teaching assistantship while doing Ph.D. Send me your cv at my office email birbal.singh@lakeheadu.ca
 
Ajay sir,
Thank you for taking the efforts to clarify all my doubts,
your answers have been very crisp n have helped me get a better vision of the scenario ahead.
I will take off with my GMAT preps and try n make it by next year.

The only other thing is that im not from the IITs and my acads have been average through my Engineering and i only got into the momentum after i started working.
But like u said Work Ex is a big criteria for selection,im hoping i can make it up with this as i have names like IBM n TCS to boast of in my resume.

Im sure i can manage an eduation loan for as much as 15lakhs,plus if i get some aid it will be a bonus..but nething beyond that would be unaffordable to be honest.
I am firm on an MBA,just want to be sure it'll pay off and give me a standing keeping my past work ex in consideration.

Thanks again for you help.
 
Birbal sir,
Thank you for your time and effort.I truly appreciate your guidance.
Since you mentioned about an MBA in Canada,i have a new set of queries

1.I have been told there are 2 kinds of MBA's one from the univ. and the other from the college.The college MBA is a 1 yr programme and the univ a 2 yrs programme.I dont know what the difference is n which is better.

2.One of my friends has done a 1 yr MBA from Sheridan college in Toronto,and he has picked up a good job there and doing well for himself,so he has been encouraging me also to take up a course in a college.

3.Is an MBA from Canada any cheaper than it is from US and do both require the same GMAT scores?

4.I was also told that u get a job based on your MBA and u have to start from scratch as a trainee not taking into consideration ur past work ex.dont think thats true but i woould still like a confirmation from you.

Thank you once again sir.
 
abhimanyu09 said:
Birbal sir,
Thank you for your time and effort.I truly appreciate your guidance.
Since you mentioned about an MBA in Canada,i have a new set of queries

1.I have been told there are 2 kinds of MBA's one from the univ. and the other from the college.The college MBA is a 1 yr programme and the univ a 2 yrs programme.I dont know what the difference is n which is better.

2.One of my friends has done a 1 yr MBA from Sheridan college in Toronto,and he has picked up a good job there and doing well for himself,so he has been encouraging me also to take up a course in a college.

3.Is an MBA from Canada any cheaper than it is from US and do both require the same GMAT scores?

4.I was also told that u get a job based on your MBA and u have to start from scratch as a trainee not taking into consideration ur past work ex.dont think thats true but i woould still like a confirmation from you.

Thank you once again sir.
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Abhimanyu,

Stay away from the so called MBAs offered through Community Colleges. So, try only reputed university MBAs. If you go through the Financial Times (UK) ranking of MBA programs throughout world, several Canadian Schools like York, Queens, Western Ontario, Calgary, and Alberta appear in the list. Write GMAT after a thorough preparation, and make sure you have solid references who can write detailed recommendation letters.

The average salaries after graduation from MBA in Canada are comparable with USA from similar schools (I mean leave the top few like Wharton, Harvard, Stanford etc. out and the good Canadian schools are as good as the rest of US schools).

The cost in Canada is somewhat lower, but it used to be lot cheaper till recently. It may become similar in another 5-10 years.

Whether the past experience counts, depends on individual circumstances and what kind of reputation you establish while in the program. I am sure you know the range of salaries in programs like MBA can be wide as few top people get huge sign up bonuses and salaries and some at the bottom get pittance.
 
Higher Education in USA/Canada

Hi Birbal,

I am a software developer working in Alcatel and have around 2 yr. of experience in software develpoment.
I am very much interested in higher education in USA or Europe.
I am planning for M.S. or M.Tech.
Can you please suggest me how to proceed in that way?

Thanks
Sumit
 
Just an advice

Abhi,

1) IIT or no IIT, if you have a good GMAT score and a good work ex, you stand a good chance of getting through. Obvisiouly, being from IIT helps but that's not the sole criteria.

2) Loan of 15 lakhs, looks like my story!! Abhi, always remember, there would be lot of things at stake and till the time you repay the loan, you won't find peace. ( My words might sound harsh but I want to tell you the truth)

3) Lot of people go for MBA or MS just to get an entry to a foreign country. There is nothing wrong with this, but why to spend so much of money on MBA if there are so many firms who can sponsor your H1B ( thus you get a taste of a foreign country). I think you are looking for good education but you can get that in India too, so again why to spend 15 lakhs ?

4) Lets say you get admission to a good MBA school outside India, you get some sort of aid, you finish your MBA and get a job too. Now, you will like to stay in that country untill you repay your loan of 15 lakhs and it might take you couple of years. So, whats the problem ? the problem is, after staying in that foreign country for few years, it would be difficult for you to go back to India and work in some sort of hostile enviornment. There is a hugeeeeeeeee difference between the work env we have here and what we have in India. Then your heart will say "go to India" to be with your family but mind will say "stick to this country" and its very hard to decide ( I haven't been able to decide since the last 5 years).

Some day ( after your MBA ), you will be earning very good money but at that time you might have to take a decision between staying abroad or to go back to India.

I am in no mood to discourage you but if you are taking such a big step in your life, it's my duty to tell you about all the pros and cons. I have been through the same situation.

One last thing, hard work always pay and specially in this country and you will earn good money ( I mean really good!! ) but be prepared for the initial hardships ( if they come ).

Good luck and always remember, destiny rules.

Ajay




abhimanyu09 said:
Ajay sir,
Thank you for taking the efforts to clarify all my doubts,
your answers have been very crisp n have helped me get a better vision of the scenario ahead.
I will take off with my GMAT preps and try n make it by next year.

The only other thing is that im not from the IITs and my acads have been average through my Engineering and i only got into the momentum after i started working.
But like u said Work Ex is a big criteria for selection,im hoping i can make it up with this as i have names like IBM n TCS to boast of in my resume.

Im sure i can manage an eduation loan for as much as 15lakhs,plus if i get some aid it will be a bonus..but nething beyond that would be unaffordable to be honest.
I am firm on an MBA,just want to be sure it'll pay off and give me a standing keeping my past work ex in consideration.

Thanks again for you help.
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higher education in US...and Canada

Dear sir,

I really thank you for going through my query regarding higher studies.

I m very soon going to send u my detail Cv.

thanking you
wid regards
dolly
 
ajay chauhan ji ye dileema to hamesha hi bani rahti hai....those who live abroad want to cum to india

those who live in india want to go abroad coz of hell wrk env here nd also politics baji nd castesim nd all

so it is a catch 22 situation here

atleast u r being paid for what u do not for what u belong to

par dil to manega nahi itni aram se
 
I want to go for MBA to Canada

Sir
I want to go for MBA toCanada.give me information about scholarships.i am an engineering graduate in ECE.
 
Birbal sir,
Thanks a ton for your words of wisdom.Makes most of the things very clear for me so i know what i have to do n whats in store thereafter.
It has been an honour interacting with you and i would like to take the liberty to bother you again also if n when im doubtful about anything in this regard.
I think thts the reason why an advice from someone with so much experience is more valuable.

Abhi
 
Ajay sir,
I cant help but express my gratitude to you for being so honestly helpful in your guidance.Not a single word u say sounds discouraging,infact it just makes me and a lot others make an informed decision about our MBA.

I now clearly understand that its not about choosing an MBA but about choosing a lifestyle,an environment and deciding what/who we want around us besides all the money that comes with any good MBA.
Its a priceless piece of advice that comes from ur personal experience and i think i have a lot of thinking to do before i take my stand about an MBA abroad so once i do i would'nt ever look back.
Thank you sir,

abhi
 
hi

hallo birbal sir how are you. iam a new member of this site. i wanna know how much beneficial is mba from canada. which are the main universities? and what is the procedure of admission? how much score of ielts is required? presently i am in final year of my graduation.
 
hello Birbal ji

Im new member on this site. u r really doing a very great job.
Im a new immigrant in Canada (Ontario). I did B.Comm from Punjab University. Could you please tell me the accounting opportunities or some courses which I can persue here??
Thank You in advance

Monika
 
Monika,

As an immigrant, you have the same rights and opportunities as Canadian born citizens. So, first try to establish a network of friends in your new place. There are enough Jats and many other nice Indian/Pakistanis in ebery city. Where you are now?

For accounting designation, you have to write some exams. Mr. Ravi Chaudhary, who is very active on Jatland is a very succesful accountant and helpful to all. If you are in Toronto, he is the best person to contact.

Send me more details at my email at birbal.singh@lakeheadu.ca


cheelu said:
hello Birbal ji

Im new member on this site. u r really doing a very great job.
Im a new immigrant in Canada (Ontario). I did B.Comm from Punjab University. Could you please tell me the accounting opportunities or some courses which I can persue here??
Thank You in advance

Monika
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any suggestions regarding law

Respected Birbal Sir,
I have been to canada as an immigrant in 2004 and stayed there for 1&1/2 years with my kids and wife but had to come back in feb this year as i want my kids to get their basic education from india (i have admitted them to the DPS) As per my educational back ground I am law graduate from india ,but when in canada i had to do the ordinary jobs as i donot have the essential division for the accrediation from the law society.
Sir i would appreciate if you can suggest me any other related course or any other field (i m ready to change the track) where i can gain some educ. and start afresh or anythinf else that you can suggest. at the moment I ma in india and want to come back at the earliest.
i would be obliged for youe advise.
dev kadian
 
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