prashantacmet
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Hahahaa..eibbe pakki meri hi phhoot ri hai....! theek sai eibb to?
Hindu woman talking about Injustice with minorities in Pakistan ?????????
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That is eye opener. On Jatland majority of members proclaim that Jat is Jat, irrespective of religion
sumitjattan
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You are absolutely correct ... but they can even scan his posts if they want to ... thats why i dint reply ..... If we have correct data then we can put our point strongly , if we have just numbers then also we can atleast put a point.
Good catch
There is nothing wrong as long as he does not give some secret/confidential info or any thing against his country
cutejaatsandeep
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i totally agree wid desi jat....a muslim is a muslim...muslims for not divided lik us on different different castess..
samarkadian
Active member
This is the development in pakistan over Hindu Minority.
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A Supreme Court order that will enable married women of the Hindu community to obtain computerised national identity cards without any hitch is welcome, said a leading Pakistani daily, also hoping that a draft Hindu marriage bill will be taken up in the upcoming session of the National Assembly.
An editorial Wednesday in the Dawn said that the Supreme Court Monday ordered the National Database and Registration Authority to take the necessary steps to enable married women of the Hindu community to obtain computerised national identity cards (CNICs) without any hitch.
The apex court took suo motu notice of the issue in 2009 after media reports on problems faced by a Hindu woman while trying to obtain a passport.
The daily observed: "Due to the lack of a proper marriage registration mechanism, Hindu women face problems not only while applying for a CNIC or passport, they are also excluded from obtaining their share of their husbands' property."
Activists claim that due to the legal lacuna "it is easy for married Hindu women to be kidnapped and forcibly converted as they lack legal documents proving their marriage to Hindu spouses".
"While the SC's intervention is welcome, it is a sad reflection on the government when the nation's top court has to step in and ensure oppressed segments of society are given their due rights," it said.
The daily said that by denying marginalised sections of the population - such as Hindu women and homeless children whose parentage is unknown - "proof of identity, the state is denying them their fundamental rights".
According to an estimate, Hindus constitute around 5.5 percent of Pakistan's over 170 million people. Of them, over 90 percent live in Sindh while the rest are in Punjab and Balochistan.
The editorial went on to say that a draft Hindu marriage bill regulating marriage and divorce for Pakistan's Hindu, Buddhist, Jain and Sikh communities has been drawn up.
"Hopefully, it will be taken up in the upcoming session of the National Assembly. We hope it is passed into law soon so that minorities and others will not face legal black holes where issues such as forced conversions and procurement of identity documents are concerned.
"The state must be more active in this regard," it said.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/care-hindus-says-pakistani-daily-053401807.html
People are raising their voice about Hindus on the following Facebook pages:-
http://www.facebook.com/pakistanhinduvoice
http://www.facebook.com/people/Hindu-Voice-Pakistan/100002485280546
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A Supreme Court order that will enable married women of the Hindu community to obtain computerised national identity cards without any hitch is welcome, said a leading Pakistani daily, also hoping that a draft Hindu marriage bill will be taken up in the upcoming session of the National Assembly.
An editorial Wednesday in the Dawn said that the Supreme Court Monday ordered the National Database and Registration Authority to take the necessary steps to enable married women of the Hindu community to obtain computerised national identity cards (CNICs) without any hitch.
The apex court took suo motu notice of the issue in 2009 after media reports on problems faced by a Hindu woman while trying to obtain a passport.
The daily observed: "Due to the lack of a proper marriage registration mechanism, Hindu women face problems not only while applying for a CNIC or passport, they are also excluded from obtaining their share of their husbands' property."
Activists claim that due to the legal lacuna "it is easy for married Hindu women to be kidnapped and forcibly converted as they lack legal documents proving their marriage to Hindu spouses".
"While the SC's intervention is welcome, it is a sad reflection on the government when the nation's top court has to step in and ensure oppressed segments of society are given their due rights," it said.
The daily said that by denying marginalised sections of the population - such as Hindu women and homeless children whose parentage is unknown - "proof of identity, the state is denying them their fundamental rights".
According to an estimate, Hindus constitute around 5.5 percent of Pakistan's over 170 million people. Of them, over 90 percent live in Sindh while the rest are in Punjab and Balochistan.
The editorial went on to say that a draft Hindu marriage bill regulating marriage and divorce for Pakistan's Hindu, Buddhist, Jain and Sikh communities has been drawn up.
"Hopefully, it will be taken up in the upcoming session of the National Assembly. We hope it is passed into law soon so that minorities and others will not face legal black holes where issues such as forced conversions and procurement of identity documents are concerned.
"The state must be more active in this regard," it said.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/care-hindus-says-pakistani-daily-053401807.html
People are raising their voice about Hindus on the following Facebook pages:-
http://www.facebook.com/pakistanhinduvoice
http://www.facebook.com/people/Hindu-Voice-Pakistan/100002485280546
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girdharilegha
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Marriage Act ho tab hi Summit Jattan k off-track Suggestion (child Marriage) kam aa sakti hy.
cutejaatsandeep
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baaat to thik see nepal is a better country thn india in terms of beauty....n hindus waha ke india se better condition mai hai....muslims wahaa kuch na bol sakee
sumitjattan
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This is how Indian govt treats Hindus from Pakistan
Many Hindu families which migrated from India are facing a piquant situation as the government has stopped extending their visas
Eighteen years after the Babri Masjid demolition at Ayodhya triggered migration of Pakistan-based Hindus to India, over 1000 families of Hindus settled in Punjab continue to live illegally, banking on Indian benevolence for guests. They do not want to go back and are now demanding either citizenship or visa extension. Settled in various parts of
Punjab, including Amritsar, Jalandhar and Rajpura, their stay in India is illegal since 2004 when the government stopped granting visa extension to these migrant families.
“We know that our stay is illegal, but we do not want to go back to Pakistan” says 70-year old Mulakh Raj. He has been living in Jalandhar with his wife and eight children since 1997 after migrating from Sialkot in Pakistan.
“There is nothing left for us in Pakistan. We feel safe and have a more dignified life in India,” he says.
Most of the families say they had decided to settle down in India as they felt insecure in Pakistan. “Hindus in Pakistan particularly felt vulnerable after the demolition of Babri Masjid in 1992. We felt very insecure as there was a spate of attacks on our religious places,” says Sardari Lal.
Buaditta Mal, who has come from Sialkot, says, “People at our native place make fun of us and interfere in our religious congregations. They even throw away idols of gods and goddesses. If we protest, they beat us up.”
Pakistani Hindus have often complained of destruction of their religious places, forced conversions and abduction of girls for forced betrothal to Muslim men. There are an estimated 25 lakh Hindus living in Pakistan according to the 1998 census which is about 2.5 per cent of that country's total population. Life is not easy for these migrants in India, though. The families face difficulties in procuring driving licence or opening bank accounts for lack of any identity.
“We are in no man’s land. We have Pakistani passports but we prefer to live in
India. But despite several appeals to the Union government, India has not granted us citizenship,” says Sardari Lal.
Sammakh Ram came from Peshawar in 1998 and settled at Jalandhar along with his family members. “You cannot imagine the plight of minorities in Pakistan. They have no rights. We will never return,” he says emphatically. Many of the migrants
allege that they are asked by the Pakistani authorities to spy for them against India.
The Punjab unit of the BJP has now taken cudgels to fight for granting citizenship status to these migrants. The party has constituted a three-member committee to take up the plight of these families with the Central government.
BJP MP Avinash Rai Khanna says the committee would prepare lists of all such Hindu migrant families living in Punjab with the help of legislators from respective areas. He says several Hindu families had been forced to convert in Pakistan.
A senior BJP minister in the Akali-BJP government, Laxmikanta Chawla has written to Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh urging the Centre government to provide full protection and citizenship to Hindu and Sikh migrants from Pakistan. “Since the Pakistan government has failed to protect the minorities from frequent atrocities, the Indian government needs to look after them,” she said in the letter.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/86879/pakistani-hindus-india-unwilling-return.html
Many Hindu families which migrated from India are facing a piquant situation as the government has stopped extending their visas
Eighteen years after the Babri Masjid demolition at Ayodhya triggered migration of Pakistan-based Hindus to India, over 1000 families of Hindus settled in Punjab continue to live illegally, banking on Indian benevolence for guests. They do not want to go back and are now demanding either citizenship or visa extension. Settled in various parts of
Punjab, including Amritsar, Jalandhar and Rajpura, their stay in India is illegal since 2004 when the government stopped granting visa extension to these migrant families.
“We know that our stay is illegal, but we do not want to go back to Pakistan” says 70-year old Mulakh Raj. He has been living in Jalandhar with his wife and eight children since 1997 after migrating from Sialkot in Pakistan.
“There is nothing left for us in Pakistan. We feel safe and have a more dignified life in India,” he says.
Most of the families say they had decided to settle down in India as they felt insecure in Pakistan. “Hindus in Pakistan particularly felt vulnerable after the demolition of Babri Masjid in 1992. We felt very insecure as there was a spate of attacks on our religious places,” says Sardari Lal.
Buaditta Mal, who has come from Sialkot, says, “People at our native place make fun of us and interfere in our religious congregations. They even throw away idols of gods and goddesses. If we protest, they beat us up.”
Pakistani Hindus have often complained of destruction of their religious places, forced conversions and abduction of girls for forced betrothal to Muslim men. There are an estimated 25 lakh Hindus living in Pakistan according to the 1998 census which is about 2.5 per cent of that country's total population. Life is not easy for these migrants in India, though. The families face difficulties in procuring driving licence or opening bank accounts for lack of any identity.
“We are in no man’s land. We have Pakistani passports but we prefer to live in
India. But despite several appeals to the Union government, India has not granted us citizenship,” says Sardari Lal.
Sammakh Ram came from Peshawar in 1998 and settled at Jalandhar along with his family members. “You cannot imagine the plight of minorities in Pakistan. They have no rights. We will never return,” he says emphatically. Many of the migrants
allege that they are asked by the Pakistani authorities to spy for them against India.
The Punjab unit of the BJP has now taken cudgels to fight for granting citizenship status to these migrants. The party has constituted a three-member committee to take up the plight of these families with the Central government.
BJP MP Avinash Rai Khanna says the committee would prepare lists of all such Hindu migrant families living in Punjab with the help of legislators from respective areas. He says several Hindu families had been forced to convert in Pakistan.
A senior BJP minister in the Akali-BJP government, Laxmikanta Chawla has written to Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh urging the Centre government to provide full protection and citizenship to Hindu and Sikh migrants from Pakistan. “Since the Pakistan government has failed to protect the minorities from frequent atrocities, the Indian government needs to look after them,” she said in the letter.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/86879/pakistani-hindus-india-unwilling-return.html
rajpaldular
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पाकिस्तान एवं भारत में कोई समानता नहीं है सिवाय इसके कि दोनों ही देशों में हिन्दुओं को दोयम दर्जे का नागरिक बना दिया गया है. पाकिस्तान में हिन्दुओं पर अत्याचार के समाचार तथा भारत में हिन्दुओं के प्रति केन्द्र और राज्य सरकारों की नकारात्मक सोच ने हिन्दुओं के सामने एक बड़ा यक्ष प्रश्न चिंह लगा दिया है. हिन्दू हितों की बात करना जिस देश में साम्प्रदायिकता समझी जाती हो, उस देश के बहुसंख्यक समाज में निराशा उत्पन्न होना स्वभाविक है. जिस देश(भारत) का प्रधानमंत्री यह कहे कि देश के प्राकृतिक संसाधनों पर मुसलमानों का पहला अधिकार है. उस देश का भला कौन कर सकता है? यही नहीं मौकापरस्ती की राजनीति देश में इतनी हावी हो गई है कि प्रधानमंत्री मनमोहन सिंह पड़ोसी देश पाकिस्तान में हिन्दुओं पर हो रहे अत्याचार के विरुद्ध मुंह खोलने का भी साहस नहीं कर पाता है. विभाजन के समय जो हिन्दू पाकिस्तान के जनक जिन्ना के बहकावे (पाकिस्तान इस्लामिक देश नहीं अपितु लोकतांत्रिक एवं धर्मनिरपेक्ष देश बनेगा) में आकर वहां रूक गए थे, उनके पास आज पछताने के सिवा कुछ नहीं बचा है.
rajpaldular
Active member
Open your eyes, Oh Hindus! [h=1][/h]If these Hindus- our own kith and kin, are being forcefully shoved into Pakistan- Their Grave Yard,
losing their limb, life and Honor, let's gather in millions at the exit (Check) points to stop
this Rakshasi Govt., in this wicked and nefarious act.
This Govt. understands Might only.
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Plight of Hindus - A documentary on the life of Hindu refugees from Pakistan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=player_embedded&v= x9EmMkDLsg0
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Terrorists are welcome! They are State Guests!!
70,000,000 (70 million-7 crore) illegal Bangladeshis can sneak in freely.
But 171 (28 families) HINDUS are not allowed to stay in their HINDUsthan!
% wise India can accommodate ONE illegal Muslim, but can not accommodate 0.00,000,244,257 Hindu!
In other words, for 1 Hindu wanting refuge in his own land, 4,09,356.7490852 (4 lac, 10 thousand) Bangladeshis are roaming our streets, snatching the livelihood of our own countrymen, Hindu and Muslim, and Christians, as well.
Not forgetting Kashmiri Hindus.
And, Oh, You Sickularist Hindus!
Have you no slightest compassion in your hearts?
Your Ancestors were well known for welcoming the oppressed of the world!
And you? You are a blot on their fair name.
Just look at the firm resolve, of all these men, women, and children, young and old, poor and rich, to die here, rather than change their faith!
Can you not see faces of your own Mothers, Sisters, Daughters in them?
Have you any Humane feelings left in you?
Sure, your parents must be cursing themselves, having brought you in this world, and your Ancestors shedding tears in Heavens above!
[h=3]Plight of Hindus - A documentary on the life o...[/h]By omaryaveer| 1 video
Watch
source : mail recd. from Mr. Ravi Verma
losing their limb, life and Honor, let's gather in millions at the exit (Check) points to stop
this Rakshasi Govt., in this wicked and nefarious act.
This Govt. understands Might only.
==================
Plight of Hindus - A documentary on the life of Hindu refugees from Pakistan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch? feature=player_embedded&v= x9EmMkDLsg0
===================
Terrorists are welcome! They are State Guests!!
70,000,000 (70 million-7 crore) illegal Bangladeshis can sneak in freely.
But 171 (28 families) HINDUS are not allowed to stay in their HINDUsthan!
% wise India can accommodate ONE illegal Muslim, but can not accommodate 0.00,000,244,257 Hindu!
In other words, for 1 Hindu wanting refuge in his own land, 4,09,356.7490852 (4 lac, 10 thousand) Bangladeshis are roaming our streets, snatching the livelihood of our own countrymen, Hindu and Muslim, and Christians, as well.
Not forgetting Kashmiri Hindus.
And, Oh, You Sickularist Hindus!
Have you no slightest compassion in your hearts?
Your Ancestors were well known for welcoming the oppressed of the world!
And you? You are a blot on their fair name.
Just look at the firm resolve, of all these men, women, and children, young and old, poor and rich, to die here, rather than change their faith!
Can you not see faces of your own Mothers, Sisters, Daughters in them?
Have you any Humane feelings left in you?
Sure, your parents must be cursing themselves, having brought you in this world, and your Ancestors shedding tears in Heavens above!
[h=3]Plight of Hindus - A documentary on the life o...[/h]By omaryaveer| 1 video
Watch
source : mail recd. from Mr. Ravi Verma
girdharilegha
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No country for Pakistani Hindus
On March 26, 19-year-old Rinkle Kumari, from a village in Sindh, told Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry that she had been abducted by aman called Naveed Shah, and pleaded with the highest court to let her return to her mother. Itwas a brave plea. Hindu women in Pakistan are routinely kidnapped and then forced to convert if they want the respectability of marriage. They are helpless, as they have neitherthe numbers nor the political clout to protect themselves. As Rinkle left the court, she screamed before journalists, accusing her captors of forcible conversion, before she was hustled away by the police.
The case grabbed headlines, generated impassioned editorials, and highlighted the cause of a persecuted community, the 3.5 million Hindus in Pakistan. It angered liberals in Pakistan and caused the Dawnnewspaper to take a strong position on persecution of minorities.
But Rinkle had dared to raise hervoice, and there would be a price to pay. Her parents in Ghotki village were threatened, her 70-year-old grandfather wasshot at, gun-toting goons roamed outside her house. When she returned to the Pakistan Supreme Court on April 18, she meekly said she had converted to Islam. At a packed media briefing in Islamabad's Press Club, with Shah by her side,the spunk in her snuffed out, she would only say she wants to become an "obedient" wife.
According to police records, each month, an average of 25 girls meet Rinkle's fate in Sindh alone, home to 90 per cent of the Hindus living in Pakistan. Young Hindu girls are 'marked', abducted, raped, and forcibly converted. Discrimination, extortion threats, killings and religious persecution are drivingthe remaining Hindus out of Pakistan. They had chosen to stay back after Partition; six decades later, they are no longerwelcome.
In India, they are facing a shock worse than catastrophe-betrayal.The Government of India refusesto recognise them as refugees and is unmoved by their plight. In its reply to activist S.C. Agrawal's RTI query on November 1, 2011, on the statusof Pakistani Hindu refugees, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) claimed it was an "internal matter'' of Pakistan. In the same reply, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) admitted that it could not say how many Pakistani Hindus had emigrated.
According to Delhi's Foreigners Regional Registration Office (FRRO), there has been a rapid increase in the number of Hindus coming from Pakistan. Tillmid-2011, it used to be around eight-ten families a month. But in the past 10 months, an estimated 400 families have come. They are settling down all over India, in Rajasthan, Punjab and Gujarat. A trickle has become a stream. Hindus, who accounted for 15 per cent of Pakistan's population in 1947, now constitute a mere 2 per cent of its 170 million population.Many have migrated, others have been killed, and yet others forced to convert to survive. In some cases, the dead have even been denied a proper cremation....
Source:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/no-country-for-pakistani-hindus-.html
On March 26, 19-year-old Rinkle Kumari, from a village in Sindh, told Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry that she had been abducted by aman called Naveed Shah, and pleaded with the highest court to let her return to her mother. Itwas a brave plea. Hindu women in Pakistan are routinely kidnapped and then forced to convert if they want the respectability of marriage. They are helpless, as they have neitherthe numbers nor the political clout to protect themselves. As Rinkle left the court, she screamed before journalists, accusing her captors of forcible conversion, before she was hustled away by the police.
The case grabbed headlines, generated impassioned editorials, and highlighted the cause of a persecuted community, the 3.5 million Hindus in Pakistan. It angered liberals in Pakistan and caused the Dawnnewspaper to take a strong position on persecution of minorities.
But Rinkle had dared to raise hervoice, and there would be a price to pay. Her parents in Ghotki village were threatened, her 70-year-old grandfather wasshot at, gun-toting goons roamed outside her house. When she returned to the Pakistan Supreme Court on April 18, she meekly said she had converted to Islam. At a packed media briefing in Islamabad's Press Club, with Shah by her side,the spunk in her snuffed out, she would only say she wants to become an "obedient" wife.
According to police records, each month, an average of 25 girls meet Rinkle's fate in Sindh alone, home to 90 per cent of the Hindus living in Pakistan. Young Hindu girls are 'marked', abducted, raped, and forcibly converted. Discrimination, extortion threats, killings and religious persecution are drivingthe remaining Hindus out of Pakistan. They had chosen to stay back after Partition; six decades later, they are no longerwelcome.
In India, they are facing a shock worse than catastrophe-betrayal.The Government of India refusesto recognise them as refugees and is unmoved by their plight. In its reply to activist S.C. Agrawal's RTI query on November 1, 2011, on the statusof Pakistani Hindu refugees, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) claimed it was an "internal matter'' of Pakistan. In the same reply, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) admitted that it could not say how many Pakistani Hindus had emigrated.
According to Delhi's Foreigners Regional Registration Office (FRRO), there has been a rapid increase in the number of Hindus coming from Pakistan. Tillmid-2011, it used to be around eight-ten families a month. But in the past 10 months, an estimated 400 families have come. They are settling down all over India, in Rajasthan, Punjab and Gujarat. A trickle has become a stream. Hindus, who accounted for 15 per cent of Pakistan's population in 1947, now constitute a mere 2 per cent of its 170 million population.Many have migrated, others have been killed, and yet others forced to convert to survive. In some cases, the dead have even been denied a proper cremation....
Source:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/no-country-for-pakistani-hindus-.html
Brother, I agree with you, I say no Hindu is for Hindu what to talk about country, Hindus have become most selfish, Brother, you people are in minority but you see here in India in spite in majority, no say/voice/decision making power. India is ruled by Sonia, Ahmed Patel and ManMohan Singh, nun is hindu, Indian Govt is trying its best to finish Hindus in this country also, it is unfortunate. Dear, I say again please act intelligently and leave the rog country and go any where including India/Nepal, Bhutan/Srilanka/Burma or any non muslim country
sumitjattan
New member
No hopes from KAAG RACE 
In addition to my above post no 96. Girdhariji, instead of expecting and waiting for others, you have to prepare yourself mentally and physically to face the problem, If you want peace be prepare for war, few suggestions:-
a) no alternative to unity
b) develop fulproof communication system among family members and community fellows
c) if possible, all community people should settle down at one place and stay in groups
d) construct your colonies keeping view the safty and security in mind, create early warning system
e) trained your children specialy girls to defend themselves, girls must go out in groups, keep chillies/poision etc with them when go out to use against these goons if required, they must keep mobile phones when go out, they should be mentally tough to face such attacks and they must be trained to face various situations,
f) deny your informations to such people means only need to know bases and get maximum information about such people and their plans, avoide same route/same time/same place to move/visit,
g) Educate your children specially girls, if possible open community scools in your areas so that along with normal syllebus, you can train them to face such chellenges
h)keep close and good relations with media and human rights activits but be aware of double edge people in these
j) be prepare to help each other and fight till last drop of your blood
k) in the mean time we will explore the possibility of giving admission to your children in our community scools here if rules permit
Rest in next, regards
a) no alternative to unity
b) develop fulproof communication system among family members and community fellows
c) if possible, all community people should settle down at one place and stay in groups
d) construct your colonies keeping view the safty and security in mind, create early warning system
e) trained your children specialy girls to defend themselves, girls must go out in groups, keep chillies/poision etc with them when go out to use against these goons if required, they must keep mobile phones when go out, they should be mentally tough to face such attacks and they must be trained to face various situations,
f) deny your informations to such people means only need to know bases and get maximum information about such people and their plans, avoide same route/same time/same place to move/visit,
g) Educate your children specially girls, if possible open community scools in your areas so that along with normal syllebus, you can train them to face such chellenges
h)keep close and good relations with media and human rights activits but be aware of double edge people in these
j) be prepare to help each other and fight till last drop of your blood
k) in the mean time we will explore the possibility of giving admission to your children in our community scools here if rules permit
Rest in next, regards
rajpaldular
Active member
Abductiion of our daughters
ABDUCTIION OF OUR DAUGHTERS
Dear Friends,
Struggle and strife continue in Pakistan where life is a formidable challenge for Hindus. Below is an article I wrote on recent issues of kidnappings and forced conversions to Islam of young Hindu girls. Comments are welcome.
Regards,
Viju Sidhwani
ABDUCTIION OF OUR DAUGHTERS
Dear Friends,
Struggle and strife continue in Pakistan where life is a formidable challenge for Hindus. Below is an article I wrote on recent issues of kidnappings and forced conversions to Islam of young Hindu girls. Comments are welcome.
Regards,
Viju Sidhwani