How can Jats influence General Elections 2014?

I will vote irrespectively for someone who is not

  • Anti-Jat

    Votes: 23 88.5%

  • Doesn't matter to me.

    Votes: 3 11.5%
  • Total voters
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rsdalal said:
Kahan kee e baat se te, Bhajan Laal bhee apne aap ne Jat kaha karta.
Ajit Singh ne apne balak Kit sik bayhe se ?
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sahi kahi bhai...ajeet singh ka chhorra jayant chhuddi ne byaah ke lya ra hai....Buta singh (balmiki sikh) ki pautti hai jayant ki bahu....
jibb jaat aali hi baat hai...shruti chaudhary bengali ke byaah ri hai..usse haryane ke congressi jaat maanu pade......aur list main count karte hai..(congress ne 1 aur jat ko ticket diya..hahahaha..kade hi jaatni hai shruti..batayo bhai...)
 
jitendershooda said:
:) Prashant tun jama nahi badlya, kae saal pache bhi wahi lekhni aur wahi dhar. Par aachya lagya sare wehe log active pake hade.

I came back to JL after more than 2 years. If you go through some of the parallel threads then you will find that I defended AAP in one of the threads perhaps yesterday or day before.

Yes, I accept that I appreciated Kejriwal and worked with them in the past. Even today I am an admirer of Arvind Kejriwal. And not only him, I am admirer of new thoughts and moves across party lines. Its not like that I second him in each and every move or each person from his party. Like Naveen Jaihind is no good and I don't appreciate him based on my little interaction with him during one of the demonstration.

As far as Deepender Hooda is concerned, you can find n number of threads few years back where I have praised him a lot and so even today. You can also find posts of positive critics for Deepender too. Narender Kharab ji knows that I along with my friends meet Deepender and argued about Jat reservation few years back, which they came true on their words now. So its all mudda based and person based. No party barrier et all.
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bhai..deepender ki badai to haamne bhi suni hai..badhiya chhoraa hai..jatto ko isse isse hi logo ki jaroorat hai....baaki mahree ajeet singh jaise ghankhare to jama aapni jeb bharan tai nyara kuch kaam ni karde..

baaki kejriwal aapo hi maati main mil gaya...nu lage kimee control ni hui uspe itni saari poularity...kuch chemical lochaa hogya uske..arr jama gud-gobarr kar diay saare saudee ka..yeh sab to chaalda rahta hai bhai

badhiya lagya...aap doobara active ho gaye...lage raho bhai
 
desijat said:
First of all, thank you for editing the personal attack.

Harender Malik was questioned over riots so isnt it good they did not motivate anyone related to riots? But wait, why am I debating this with a modi follower.

Dr. Sanjeev Balyan was also booked for riots and went to jail so does it surprise you he got a ticket on a Jat dominated seat?

Hema Malini married Dilawar Singh so she is a muslim, not a jat. I would have still giver her a benefit of doubt bhai but what has she done for jats?

Mr. Dharmendra accepted islam but I still consider him as a jat first as he has always said it with pride, but Hema ji, I am afraid I have never seen her doing anything for community or even calling herself as a jat
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hadd kar di bhai tai katai..

tai wa baat ni batayi ke congress ne kisi jaat ku ticket diya ek nahi.....main bata du..nahi diya...par eibbe bhi congress ki burai koni kare...jat-sat aal pyaar to tera dikhawe hai hai..tera pehla arr aakhri pyaar congress hai.....hahahhaha....haamne khoob byara hai

dossri baat ..jo main tera naam "dholu" dhar du to tu jat ni rahga ke?
 
upendersingh said:
Yes, she can not be considered as a Jat. I guess she doesn't even live with Dharmender. She never said she is a Jat. She also has in her mind she is not a Jat. Recently she married her daughter off with a non Jat. She has nothing to do with the Jats.
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Daughters of Dharmendra and Hema Malini bear Jat surname Deol. This is sufficient to demonstrate that they are daughters of Jat.
 
desijat said:
First of all, thank you for editing the personal attack.

Harender Malik was questioned over riots so isnt it good they did not motivate anyone related to riots? But wait, why am I debating this with a modi follower.

Dr. Sanjeev Balyan was also booked for riots and went to jail so does it surprise you he got a ticket on a Jat dominated seat?

Hema Malini married Dilawar Singh so she is a muslim, not a jat. I would have still giver her a benefit of doubt bhai but what has she done for jats?

Mr. Dharmendra accepted islam but I still consider him as a jat first as he has always said it with pride, but Hema ji, I am afraid I have never seen her doing anything for community or even calling herself as a jat
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Religion has nothing to demonstrate whether one is Jat or not.

Kindly visit wiki pages of the Jatland site to know that Jats follow almost all the religions under the sun, then how Dilawar or Dharmender ceases to be Jat. He and his wife both are Jats and so are their daughters who bear Deol surname.

The issue regarding Hema Malini stands resolved as none can reject her to be Jat.

Now it is for the voters of Mathura constituency to vote for her or not to vote for her as their representative in the Lok Sabha.
 
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Hema malini is better than Ajit singh & son in all respect - Jat or non jat - no concern.
dipender hooda ne rohtak mein vikas kiya.... to kya rohtak ke punjaabi, baniye, yadav enjoy nahi kar rahe? They are also using gud roads, good institutes... fir? why do u need a better mp to be jat only. pawan bansal ne ghotala kiya lekin apne city/punjab/haryana ke liye 8-10 total train chala di.... so for ppl in his constunecy - he is better anytime as rail minister than lalu yadav. so think beyond hema malini's cast n focus what jayant has done.

DrRajpalSingh said:
Religion has nothing to demonstrate whether one is Jat or not.

Kindly visit wiki pages of the Jatland site to know that Jats follow almost all the religions under the sun, then how Dilawar or Dharmender ceases to be Jat. He and his wife both are Jats and so are their daughters who bear Deol surname.

The issue regarding Hema Malini stands resolved as none can reject her to be Jat.

Now it is for the voters of Mathura constituency to vote for her or not to vote for her as their representative in the Lok Sabha.
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Naam dharne aur dharm apnane main farak konya?


And I am not here to defend congress, if you say it has problems I'd agree but if you BJP is the solution I'd differ.

prashantacmet said:
hadd kar di bhai tai katai..

tai wa baat ni batayi ke congress ne kisi jaat ku ticket diya ek nahi.....main bata du..nahi diya...par eibbe bhi congress ki burai koni kare...jat-sat aal pyaar to tera dikhawe hai hai..tera pehla arr aakhri pyaar congress hai.....hahahhaha....haamne khoob byara hai

dossri baat ..jo main tera naam "dholu" dhar du to tu jat ni rahga ke?
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How?

Do you know how tough is it for people to reach these celebrity MPs? Outsiders can never represent your constituency better, they dont even know the geography forget about people's pain.



sunnytewatia said:
Hema malini is better than Ajit singh & son in all respect - Jat or non jat - no concern.
dipender hooda ne rohtak mein vikas kiya.... to kya rohtak ke punjaabi, baniye, yadav enjoy nahi kar rahe? They are also using gud roads, good institutes... fir? why do u need a better mp to be jat only. pawan bansal ne ghotala kiya lekin apne
city/punjab/haryana ke liye 8-10 total train chala di.... so for ppl in his constunecy - he is better anytime as rail minister than lalu yadav. so think beyond hema malini's cast n focus what jayant has done.
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DrRajpalSingh said:
Daughters of Dharmendra and Hema Malini bear Jat surname Deol. This is sufficient to demonstrate that they are daughters of Jat.
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Dear friend Dr. Janghu, daughters of Dharmendra and Hema Malini now bear Takhtani and Vora Surnames. So it is not sufficient to demonstrate that they are daughters of Jat. (By the way according to me Hema Malini is a very good Hindu woman and I don't have any issue if she wins from Mathura.)


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Esha and Bharat Takhtani wedding
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Ahana with her husband Vaibhav Vora
 
i think it is not the matter of parties... it is a question that we need to ask ourselves, every community would like to rule.. jat chaudhar is good for our community, whether INLD or Congress...

I am strongly against BJP as it is preferring pandit candidates everywhere...
As current trends doesnot show INLD in very strong position, so I would prefer congress over Bishnoi or BJP...
 
indervesh2712 said:
i think it is not the matter of parties... it is a question that we need to ask ourselves, every community would like to rule.. jat chaudhar is good for our community, whether INLD or Congress...

I am strongly against BJP as it is preferring pandit candidates everywhere...
As current trends doesnot show INLD in very strong position, so I would prefer congress over Bishnoi or BJP...
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lame argument..on which jat dominated seats BJP is preferring pandit candidates.?...BJP fields ramesh kaushik from Sonepat and you accuse BJP to field pandit candidates from everywhere...dharamveer, omprakash are pandats?.....arvind sharma of congress from karnal is a jat?.as i already said that it 's a myth that bjp is anti-jat and congress is not. .

- BJP has given tickets to Jat in west UP more than any other party
- BJP is an ally of SAD in punjab ( a pro-jatt and farmer party)
- In rajasthan also, BJP has given tickets to jats not less than congress
- in delhi BJP has fielded parvesh verma

BJP have given ticket a pandit in sonepat and you tag him anti-jat...and congress gives a ticket to a pandat in jat-dominated karnal and you think congress is pro-jat..waah waah


may be few like ramvilas are not in sync but even congress minister like chidambaram has slammed jat khaps badly. if want to vote congress that's oK but don't bring lame arguments in favor of your misdeed...it's a misdeed/sin to vote congress and allies for this term

and both BJP and Congress is being run by baahman, bania and bhappa...both are same if jats share is concerned..
 
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cooljat said:
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Old news link but I hope wound on dignity & trust is still fresh. Hope Jats from Western UP teach some serious lesson to Ajeet Singh & Mulla Party.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/UP-riots-pushing-jats-towards-BJP/articleshow/22499368.cms
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It should happen, I don't understand people who raise their support to SP or RJD/Congress after muzzfarnagar roits. It was only one party that stood for us that time, that is BJP. If we don't strengthen it in UP, coming time with tough for our community(We have so many seculars around). Once elections are over seculars may show their colors. We were not expecting any support from SP or Congress, but what was worse was RLDs stand on roits.
 
आल इंडिया पंजाबी जागृति मंच द्वारा खुले तौर पर इनैलो का समर्थन करना हिसार सीट पे किस के लिए कितना भारी हो सकता है:


यह निर्भर करता है कि आल इंडिया पंजाबी जागृति मंच जो कि मुख्यत: हरियाणा में ही सबसे ज्यादा प्रभावित है, जिसका कारण भी साफ़ है क्योंकि हिन्दू पंजाबी, पंजाब-दिल्ली से भी ज्यादा हरियाणा में है| जातीय जनसँख्या व् वोट के हिसाब से जाट (35% तीनों धर्मों के मिला के) और ब्राह्मण (6.87%) के बाद तीसरी बड़ी वोटिंग ताकत है हिन्दू पंजाबी /खत्री (6.25%) है। हालाँकि अगर पंजाबी के नाम से कुल मिला के देखा जाए यानि अगर 4% सिख जाट भी इसमें मिला दिया जाए तो यह संख्या 10% के पार हो जाती है लेकिन सिख जाट का जितना रूझान पंजाबी शब्द के साथ रहता है, हरियाणा में उससे ज्यादा जाट शब्द के साथ रहता है जिसका ताजा उदाहरण अभी खत्म हुआ जाट आरक्षण आंदोलन था जो कि ना सिर्फ सिख व् आर्यन (हिन्दू धर्म का सबसेट) बल्कि मुस्लिम जाटों तक ने भी मिल के लड़ा और लिया भी| और जब-जब एंटी-जाट वोटिंग की बात हुई तो सिख जाट इसमें आर्यन (हिन्दू) जाट के साथ ही गिना गया|

खैर जाट बनाम गैर-जाट की राजीनीति का बीज बोने वाले यानि स्वर्गीय चौधरी भजन लाल तो हमारे बीच नहीं परन्तु उनके पुत्र महाशय कुलदीप बिश्नोई हिसार सीट से मैदान में हैं और अपने पिता द्वारा दी गई परिपाटी पर ही चलते नजर आते हैं और एंटी-जाट राजनीती करने में तो बाप से भी ऐसे दो कदम आगे निकल जाते हैं कि वैसे तो सबके लेकिन उल्लेखनीय रूप से जाटों के इर्द-गिर्द सिकोड़ दिए गए खाप सामाजिक तंत्र (पूर्णतया गैर-राजनैतिक संस्था) तक को भी कोसने और बैन करवाने तक पे भी बोलने से परहेज नहीं करते|

अब हालाँकि हर जाति का कुछ % कट्टर समर्थक हर पार्टी के साथ जुड़ा होता है जैसे कि इनैलो में पंजाबी प्रतिनिधित्व की बात करें तो माननीय अशोक अरोड़ा जी शुरू दिन से इनैलो का पंजाबी चेहरा रहे हैं, लेकिन अब ऐन लोकसभा इलेक्शन की संध्या पर रोहतक से कांग्रेस के मंत्री व् विधायक रहे लेकिन आजकल बागी चल रहे श्रीमान सुभाष बत्रा व् अन्य जाने-पहचाने हरियाणवी हिन्दू पंजाबी चेहरों से सजे आल इंडिया पंजाबी जागृति मंच के खुलकर इनैलो के समर्थन में आने से हिसार सीट पर बिश्नोई के लिए कितनी मुश्किलें खड़ी होंगी यह तो इसपे निर्भर करेगा कि इस मंच की बात को कितना पंजाबी खत्री समाज मानता है| हालाँकि पिछले दिसंबर में रोहतक में हुए इसी मंच के सम्मलेन में खासा पंजाबी समुदाय एकत्रित हुआ था और फिलहाल उसी को मैं इस मंच के जनाधार के रूप में देख सकता हूँ|

2011 के बाई-इलेक्शन में महाशय बमुश्किल 4-5 हजार वोटों की जीत से अपनी सीट बचा पाये थे, वो भी बावजूद इसके कि एक तो हिसार क्षेत्र में पिता की मृत्यु की मार्मिक लहर थी, दूसरा बीजेपी-हजका का गठबंधन भी था, तीसरा बसपा ने कोई उम्मीदवार नहीं उतारा था (गौर फमाइएगा 2009 के लोकसभा चुनाव में बसपा का उम्मेदवार इस सीट से 96000 वोट ले गया था, जो कि 2011 में अधिकतर इन्हीं जनाब को चढ़ा), चौथा "आप" जैसी कोई पार्टी मैदान में नहीं थी, पांचवा कांग्रेस के जाने-माने चेहरे द्वारा उचाना से अपना सारा वोट अंदर-खाते भाई-साब को चढ़वाया गया था, छटा हिसार सीट पे भी कांग्रेस का वोट अंदर खाते भाई-साहब को गया ऐसे कयास उठे थे|

लेकिन अबकी बार एक तो करनाल से अपने आशिक भाई को टिकट दे के पारी शुरू करने से पहले ही अपनी फजीहत करवा चुके हैं, दूसरा एक लाख वोट सीधा-सीधा बसपा वाला खींचेगा, तीसरा पंजाबी बिरादरी का इनैलो को समर्थन जनाब की नींद उड़ाएगा, चौथा कांग्रेस के सम्पत सिंह का भी वोट व् प्रभाव उन जगहों पर सबसे ज्यादा है जहां कि इन जनाब का जैसे कि भूना-नलवा-हिसार आदि यानि बाकी की जगहों पर या तो कांग्रेस ही भारी रही है या फिर इनैलो, पांचवा कयास हैं कि "आप" पार्टी भी जितना वोट लेगी उसमें इन्हीं का ज्यादा नुक्सान होगा| अब अकेले मोदी की लहर पर जनाब की कितनी नैया पार होती है, देखने वाली बात होगी|

- Phool Kumar Malik
 
Dil ko behlane ke liye Galib ye khayal acha hai. Stope day dreaming and wake up to the reality.
Stop dragging BJP anywhere and everywhere, won't help your faith. This time Jats of Western UP are with Modi!
desijat said:
If there were one party who caused it- it was BJP or SP. You dont cause with the problem- you try to cure it
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