How much electricity villages get per day.

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The temperature in North India are unbearable. I called home and few relatives, and came to know that villages only get electricity for 5-6 hour per day on an average. That is even less than it used to be earlier. I am wondering how many hours per day our villages are supposed to get electricity as per the official guidlines.

Does anyone know this?
 
My village(Kheri Asra) is in Jhajjar District.Its getting 5-6 hours electricity out of 24 hrs. everyday.Villagers protested and went to DC,he called Ex.Engineer for this.Ex. Engineer said,we cant do anything,timings are given by higher authorities.
Situation was little better last year,but now its worse.Politicians are thinking no one is there in villages.
 
Let me ask how many of them really pay for what they use, I bet not even 10% and the electricity board guys get beat up for collecting the meter readings....
Also, It is a sad story that people in villages start playing cards at 6 in the morning while women are on the job.....
 
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Privatize the production and distribution of electricity. Get government out of it.

Now, all the naysayers will bite me off by saying: here goes his anti-government rant. When will you people understand that an insitution that is motivated my anything but profits will never be able to gauge the true demand and supply of a commodity. Go to the most remote part of India and you will find every day commodities in a privately owned mom and pop shop. But, everytime you expect something from the government, it comes in installments, with most of the installments being defaulted on.

If electricity supply and prodcution is privatized, there will be enough players in the market as long as there is demand for electricity. The possibility of extra-normal profits will raise the threat of other palyers enetering the market. Thus, electiricty companies will have to supply the consumers at the price determiend by demand and supply.

Besides, the problem of electricity theft will be reduced significantly as private businesses have every incentive to find and close all loss making loopholes. And if there is still any electricity theft, the consequences wont be borne by the entire society as the supplier would have to absorb the cost and still provide good services. Otherwise, the threat of other players willing to provide the services will loom large.

Electricity is not the only problem. Yatinder is from my nana's village Kheri Asra. Till a few years ago there used to be a problem with the supply of clean drinking water. A private company provides clean water supply in the homes in the village for a nominal fee. Once again private solutions for public problems proved to be suitable.

Same goes for telephone services. With the opening up of the secotr for private players, telephone services havent just improved but prices have gone down drmatically to settle down at the point that is consistent with demand and supply.

Instead of asking Deppender Hooda or his daddy to get you all the good things in a gift wrapped basket, ask them to stop botheing about our problems and give the private sector the autonomy to help her find the solutions for our problems.

You may debate all you want. But the truth is that "private enterprises without the blessings of the government" have a historical track record of successfully resolving societies problems without socializing the costs on the entire society including those who do not wish to participate in the production and consumption of goods and services.

Give the govenrment the control over anything in our society and they will turn the situation into a vote-milking mechanism. Man went to moon 40 years ago and here we are still trying to get anything over 6 hours of electircity in our homes. Shame Shame Shame!
 
chhillar said:
Let me ask how many of them really pay for what they use, I bet not even 10% and the electricity board guys get beat up for collecting the meter readings....
Also, It is a sad story that people in villages start playing cards at 6 in the morning while women are on the job.....
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Yes not paying electricity bills problem is there in the villages.Government is not taking strict actions against those who are not paying the bills because of vote bank politics.Due to this those who are paying bills on time are also suffering.
But this is also there in cities and so many industries are running by paying bribes to the elctricians.
If there is any electricity problem in the village,no one come to repair it...You write no. of complains and no one will come...Finally villagers have to repair it...
Same problem with water and roads...Why govt. is not making roads???
Villagers are not beating the labours and contractor!!!!
Most of villages dont have good drinking water.Its both ways...Both people and Government have to work together...
 
if govt takes action against those who donot pay electricity bill then the action is condemned by many including politicians in opposition. Why govt donot take strict action against those who are defaulters. Govt on the other hand encouraged this habbit of deafaulters by letting them not pay previous bills just because of sheer political interests. If the govt is dtermined to force everyone pay the bill, it's not difficult.

On the other hand there are many in cities too who donot pay the bill. You cannot punish the honest citizens who pay the bill just because there are many who are not paying. This only shows the apathy and deficiency on the part of govt.
 
dahiyarules said:
If electricity supply and prodcution is privatized, there will be enough players in the market as long as there is demand for electricity. The possibility of extra-normal profits will raise the threat of other palyers enetering the market. Thus, electiricty companies will have to supply the consumers at the price determiend by demand and supply.



Same goes for telephone services. With the opening up of the secotr for private players, telephone services havent just improved but prices have gone down drmatically to settle down at the point that is consistent with demand and supply.
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Dear Sumit,

U r right in the sense that if electricity department is privatised, then the situation will improve.

However it will not change significantly, as U can take eg of neighbouring state(Delhi)...Electricity was privatised in Delhi 4-5 years back (to NDPL and BSES)..However the only thing which went up was prices(not the POWER SUPPLY).

Also as u have quote the eg of Telephone services...I don't think it will be a suitable alternative(the entry of private players)...It is neither possible nor feasible the entry of private players say 4 or 5 in the same region at the same time in POWER Sector.

The need of the hour is to prevent people from stealing the electricity.
The maximum loss the electricity deptt is facing from T&D (Transmission and Distribution) losses.So we need to educate/make aware people regarding this.


PS: The situation in my village (read Badli) is also same...Only 7-8 hours of power supply...
 
gauravgu said:
Dear Sumit,

U r right in the sense that if electricity department is privatised, then the situation will improve.

However it will not change significantly, as U can take eg of neighbouring state(Delhi)...Electricity was privatised in Delhi 4-5 years back (to NDPL and BSES)..However the only thing which went up was prices(not the POWER SUPPLY).

Also as u have quote the eg of Telephone services...I don't think it will be a suitable alternative(the entry of private players)...It is neither possible nor feasible the entry of private players say 4 or 5 in the same region at the same time in POWER Sector.

The need of the hour is to prevent people from stealing the electricity.
The maximum loss the electricity deptt is facing from T&D (Transmission and Distribution) losses.So we need to educate/make aware people regarding this.


PS: The situation in my village (read Badli) is also same...Only 7-8 hours of power supply...
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This is what gets privatization a bad name. Electricity was never privatized in Delhi. The production and distribution was still under government control. The privatization was just a cover up or to say a front organization. Private entities were just responsible to say hello when you had problems with the service and collect your bills on time.

The point I am trying to make is that when you are in a business, not with the intention of making profits you cannot gauge the proper demand for your services and thus the appropriate prices for the same.

Economists tend to treat electricity production and distribution as a natural monopoly where in only one company can profitable provide services in a given area. However, I tend to disagree. Let the private companies fight it out. If more than one company wants have distribution in a given area, let it happen. Its not our money that are investing.

In the end the company that provides the best value for our money will stand out. And with the fear of other companies jumping into the scene if there is a lack in services or unnatural profits, companies tend to behave themselves.

At the end of the day, you really do not want to trust someone with something as basic as electricity, someone who shows up once every 5 years to beg for your vote. Such problems should be left up to the people to deal with. The government needs to stay out of it.
 
chhillar said:
Let me ask how many of them really pay for what they use, I bet not even 10% and the electricity board guys get beat up for collecting the meter readings....
Also, It is a sad story that people in villages start playing cards at 6 in the morning while women are on the job.....
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You are away from question.

the question is; at present how many hours our villages are supposed to get electricity per day as per official guidlines?
 
I agree with Sumit. Production is still in Govt hands.

In the presnt situation due to the huge gap between demand and Supply not much could be done to improve the situation.....increase production by privatizing power sector.....so that even villages strats getting min 20 hrs of power supply every day.(of course if the dont steal electricity and pay thier bills on time...there is no such thing as free lunch)

"how many hours per day our villages are supposed to get electricity as per the official guidlines."......dont think there are any official guide lines....if there are, ma really curious to know that..



dahiyarules said:
This is what gets privatization a bad name. Electricity was never privatized in Delhi. The production and distribution was still under government control. The privatization was just a cover up or to say a front organization. Private entities were just responsible to say hello when you had problems with the service and collect your bills on time.

The point I am trying to make is that when you are in a business, not with the intention of making profits you cannot gauge the proper demand for your services and thus the appropriate prices for the same.

Economists tend to treat electricity production and distribution as a natural monopoly where in only one company can profitable provide services in a given area. However, I tend to disagree. Let the private companies fight it out. If more than one company wants have distribution in a given area, let it happen. Its not our money that are investing.

In the end the company that provides the best value for our money will stand out. And with the fear of other companies jumping into the scene if there is a lack in services or unnatural profits, companies tend to behave themselves.

At the end of the day, you really do not want to trust someone with something as basic as electricity, someone who shows up once every 5 years to beg for your vote. Such problems should be left up to the people to deal with. The government needs to stay out of it.
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rakeshdahiya said:
I agree with Sumit. Production is still in Govt hands.

In the presnt situation due to the huge gap between demand and Supply not much could be done to improve the situation.....increase production by privatizing power sector.....so that even villages strats getting min 20 hrs of power supply every day.(of course if the dont steal electricity and pay thier bills on time...there is no such thing as free lunch)

"how many hours per day our villages are supposed to get electricity as per the official guidlines."......dont think there are any official guide lines....if there are, ma really curious to know that..
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I believe that everyone should get electricity 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days a year. That is how things are everywhere there is private (without any government blessings) production and distribution of electricity and other utilities.

When some company will invest crores of rupees in such a venture, it will have the incentive to provide the best possible services in order to stay in business and stay away from losses.

The threat of losses will also create and incentive for such companies to weed out those who steal electricity and prosecute them to the fullest extent in a court of law.

If any sensible person who happens to be in position of power in Haryana is reading this, I urge you to pursue the privatization of electricity in our dear state.
 
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chhillar said:
Let me ask how many of them really pay for what they use, I bet not even 10% and the electricity board guys get beat up for collecting the meter readings....
Also, It is a sad story that people in villages start playing cards at 6 in the morning while women are on the job.....
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UHBVN staff caught stealing power
Tribune News Service​
Yamunanagar, June 13
At least six employees of the UHBVN has been caught stealing power through kundi connections in the residential colony of the Western Yamuna Canal Hydel Power Project.
An official of the department said the matter was reported to the senior officials and a fine would be imposed on the offenders.
As per sources in the department there are 200 accommodations in the colony located in Bhundkala village of Chhachhrouli block, here. There are 162 power connections in the colony.
Strangely meter readings in a significant number of houses were far less than the consumption of an average household, which suggests that power theft had been going in the colony for quite some time, said an official of the UHBVN.
No senior official was available for comments.
 
a problem faced allover the state

Hi! Ranveer! You have come out with a problem that is experienced all over the state. Being a little familiar with the HSEB, and regulatory commission, all I could find was that every state has to sign up contracts with electricity selling states much in advance. The new government did not renew the contracts or signed future ones. I believe they are too busy doing "something". Moreover, the present government initiated a gas based plant in Faridabad district with much hype, but due to non-study of availability of gas the plant had to be stopped. The HSEB found out after the stone laying ceremony that the plant would not be able to run because "there was no gas available". Sometime back the Prime Minister laid the stone for the thermal power plant in Hisar district. The construction is in full swing under the control of the reliance group. But then again there is a little problem. The coal contracts are as far as 10yrs in advance. The government or the reliance has not signed any contract so far. So don't panic if the termal power plant doesn't work because the coal wasn't available.

The only solution is getting hold of the person you voted for. If hes from the opposition party then ask him/her to raise the question in the assembly. And if hes from the ruling party then you better start thinking about who you going to cast the next vote for!
 
Electric supply

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The power situation in entire northern States is grim. Villages are the worst hit. How much power supply should be made to villages, is an irrelevant question – as Sumit rightly said that it should be 24-hours, non-stop. Unfortunately, power production is still in the hands of Government(s). Enron fled away from Maharashtra. Privatisation is, nevertheless, the best option but with the current political system in India, it may not work properly. In Delhi and some other parts, including in Haryana, power distribution is in private hands but situation has hardly changed, except higher rates per KW unit.

To some extent, this topic was also discussed earlier this in my thread The power crisis in Haryana.
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Gaurav Thanks for your update.

Deswalji thanks for directing to that thread. Mr Hooda again has given a political speech and that is not going to happen, be assured.

My intention was to know how the govt treats villages compared to cities. Its true that electricity supply should be for 24 hours but that will probably not happen in next few decades atleast. Its true that untill and unless our politicians change themselves nothing is going to change for public, only thing changes that we see are the faces of the rulers, not public servents. Sab ek thalli ke chatte batte hain. Be it congress or BJP or be it educated or illitrate, the politicians in India are still following the Britishers foot steps.
 
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