Bhai it is, and timing can be questioned(although this is an Indian Express report, not came from Govt) but if he is clean he will come out clean.
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Huge row erupts over allegations against unit set up by Gen VK Singh
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sumitjattan
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VP Sir i missed the jest of your comment , and took it in wrong direction . I am apologizing for my wrong behavior .
It will be a good riddance and I will be thankful to you for this act of favour.
VP Sir i missed the jest of your comment , and took it in wrong direction . I am apologizing for my wrong behavior .
Never mind Sumit. I knew you replied in haste. Let us forget.
Its unfortunate that our politicians can go to this level to get some votes. And it only happens because they think we are stupid. They think such news influence our views. They even don't show any respect to Army person who has served this country.
Its up to us to show them that whoever do such mud slinging will be taught a good lesson.
Its up to us to show them that whoever do such mud slinging will be taught a good lesson.
maddhan1979
Banned
Its unfortunate that our politicians can go to this level to get some votes. And it only happens because they think we are stupid. They think such news influence our views. They even don't show any respect to Army person who has served this country.
Its up to us to show them that whoever do such mud slinging will be taught a good lesson.
It looks like u r trying to take the law in your own hands?
shekharjat
New member
it is clear case of vendetta ......
defense files and news are being leaked in planned way.......govt says we don`t know who leaked them???????????congress doen`t even know who kills our soldier on loc what can we accept from congis?????
only institution ppl trust is army congress is hell bent to destroy its credibility as it know only army could inspire young ppl to be patriot congress fears patriotrism....so simple malign them.....
they have played with fire..by doing political posting in army in 1962 by appointing general kaul........we payed the price in indo-sino war.......again this is happening.....
army doesn`t fits in congress version of secularism.....which is some bomb blast.....terrorist attacks ,crossborder inflintration......is birth right of seculars and any who opposes it is going to face the music..........
GENERAL VK SINGH has been a great officer man went to serve his nation at the age of 16.5 years ..comes army background..he only raised question on loot in the defense procurement ........remember TATRA trucks....... what is the need for trucks which are for right hand drive traffic system ....in India they will fail as we have left hand drive system
this move has only made my resolve to kick congis more strong as i am writing this piece some members of my family and friends are there on borders defending us..and facing secular bullets
ARMY KI BEZZATI KISI KIMAT PAARR BARDASHT NAHI...........
defense files and news are being leaked in planned way.......govt says we don`t know who leaked them???????????congress doen`t even know who kills our soldier on loc what can we accept from congis?????
only institution ppl trust is army congress is hell bent to destroy its credibility as it know only army could inspire young ppl to be patriot congress fears patriotrism....so simple malign them.....
they have played with fire..by doing political posting in army in 1962 by appointing general kaul........we payed the price in indo-sino war.......again this is happening.....
army doesn`t fits in congress version of secularism.....which is some bomb blast.....terrorist attacks ,crossborder inflintration......is birth right of seculars and any who opposes it is going to face the music..........
GENERAL VK SINGH has been a great officer man went to serve his nation at the age of 16.5 years ..comes army background..he only raised question on loot in the defense procurement ........remember TATRA trucks....... what is the need for trucks which are for right hand drive traffic system ....in India they will fail as we have left hand drive system
this move has only made my resolve to kick congis more strong as i am writing this piece some members of my family and friends are there on borders defending us..and facing secular bullets
ARMY KI BEZZATI KISI KIMAT PAARR BARDASHT NAHI...........
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It looks like u r trying to take the law in your own hands?
How...........?
Politicians do such things for votes. Teach them by not voting them be they from any party. No one should be allowed to bring disrepute to our fundamental institutions like Army and IB for political gains.
They day they learn that such cheap acts turns voters off they will stop doing this. They should fight on their ideologies and effective governance not by maligning our Army chiefs.
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anil_rathee
Member
spin doctors - nice to hear this word, Sonia Gandhi and her team is well known for this art. Bit off topic sorry...
Very simple. Because he is supporting the Rambo. The atmosphere is so charged that if LeT Chief or any other dreaded terrorist comes in support of Rambo, some enthusiasts and spin doctors can go to the extent of condoning their criminality also.
spin doctors - nice to hear this word, Sonia Gandhi and her team is well known for this art. Bit off topic sorry...
Dear Anil,
Thanks for sparing your precious time. In my opinion your post is not off-topic as it has nothing offensive. I think peripheral references, if warranted by or even remotely related to the topic, cannot be avoided during discussion. Nevertheless moderators are the best judges.
Best wishes
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Gen. V.K. Singh's political ambitions and our political leanings apart, the allegations do not seem to be having much substance and there is a lot of ambiguity if the following article is to be trusted:
http://www.firstpost.com/india/fine...gations-against-general-vk-singh-1122565.html
http://www.firstpost.com/india/fine...gations-against-general-vk-singh-1122565.html
sanjeev_balyan
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Gen. V.K. Singh's political ambitions and our political leanings apart, the allegations do not seem to be having much substance and there is a lot of ambiguity if the following article is to be trusted:
http://www.firstpost.com/india/fine...gations-against-general-vk-singh-1122565.html
one more article from firstpost
http://www.firstpost.com/politics/r...-daft-can-gen-singhs-critics-get-1124593.html
Agree Sumit and I am not doubting his DOB certificate, he could have gone to court for that. If he had that great case, he would not have back down at the end.
Anyway nothing wrong till that point, but after that he started going public with the armed forces information, what he wanted to achieve from that ? He made many allegation about state of armed forces and how lack of ammunition was hurting forces etc, but he did not do anything about it when he was in power I think that was bad move on his part to sattle his personal score with govt.
Now, why govt did not put him behind bars, Do they put every dishonest behind bars ? Now he is showing up with Modi, so may be its worth doing it now ?, you know working of congress.
Or may be congress see this as an opportunity, to hurt Modi indirectly ?
My only fear is if he manages to get BJP ticket from Haryana somewhere, like from Bhiwani etc and we vote for him, because of Modi wave.
Anyway nothing wrong till that point, but after that he started going public with the armed forces information, what he wanted to achieve from that ? He made many allegation about state of armed forces and how lack of ammunition was hurting forces etc, but he did not do anything about it when he was in power I think that was bad move on his part to sattle his personal score with govt.
Now, why govt did not put him behind bars, Do they put every dishonest behind bars ? Now he is showing up with Modi, so may be its worth doing it now ?, you know working of congress.
Or may be congress see this as an opportunity, to hurt Modi indirectly ?
My only fear is if he manages to get BJP ticket from Haryana somewhere, like from Bhiwani etc and we vote for him, because of Modi wave.
If he did so then why govt of India is not putting him behind the bars , Dalal sahab he was born in military hospital Pune and i still believe no one can fake the DOB in MH but he was thrown out by considering one error in his NDA form what you call it a justice .
Jats need to vote very strategically these elections.
As far as the state elections are concerned, we should not vote for the BJP as long as it is in partnership with the Jat basher Kuldeep Bishnoi AND the BJP Jat leadership of Haryana should make this known to the BJP party senior leadership team. The sooner BJP realizes this and goes alone or partners with INLD, better it would be for them. If BJP continues with HJC, I would not vouch voting for BJP in state elections. They would be better off voting for INLD.
However, at the national level (parliamentary elections), I would Certainly vouch voting for BJP at any cost to stop these so called communal parties as Congress, SP, BSP, RJD, JD(U), etc.
Of course yes, without giving any character certificate to Gen. Singh, it is much too obvious that the present charges and their timing reveal much more of the govt.'s ill intentions than it would want to show.
As far as the state elections are concerned, we should not vote for the BJP as long as it is in partnership with the Jat basher Kuldeep Bishnoi AND the BJP Jat leadership of Haryana should make this known to the BJP party senior leadership team. The sooner BJP realizes this and goes alone or partners with INLD, better it would be for them. If BJP continues with HJC, I would not vouch voting for BJP in state elections. They would be better off voting for INLD.
However, at the national level (parliamentary elections), I would Certainly vouch voting for BJP at any cost to stop these so called communal parties as Congress, SP, BSP, RJD, JD(U), etc.
Of course yes, without giving any character certificate to Gen. Singh, it is much too obvious that the present charges and their timing reveal much more of the govt.'s ill intentions than it would want to show.
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My only fear is if he manages to get BJP ticket from Haryana somewhere, like from Bhiwani etc and we vote for him, because of Modi wave.
Well said, but from what I hear he is eyeing Rae Bareli seat
sumitjattan
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The rebuttal of VK Singh has come he put some serious charges against Shekhar Gupta .... hope UPA will do some inquiry against him too :
Former Indian Army chief general V K Singh lashed out at Shekhar Gupta, editor of The Indian Express, on micro-blogging website Twitter, accusing him of catering to the UPA government for publishing reports against him.
The newspaper daily had published an investigative story dated 20 September 2013, where General Singh is accused of misusing secret service funds to destabilise the Jammu and Kashmir government and to buy off-air interception equipment to conduct ‘unauthorised’ covert operations, based on a report submitted by the army to the Ministry of Defence (MoD).
The MoD declared that it would take action after examining the report by a top army panel. The report contains details of alleged dubious operations by an intelligence unit set up by General Singh.
On Monday, the army general tweeted, “Some pieces of information about Shekhar Gupta, CE @IndianExpress: 1.His company was involved in Commonwealth Games(read scam) too (1/Many). With a 55 Cr house on Malcha marg, he can be trusted to be a UPA stooge. No doubt he has been using IE as a medium to put out slander.”
The Opposition, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), called it a political vendetta against General Singh for he had addressed a rally held by the NDA prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi in Rewari, Haryana, on 15 September.
General Singh further accused Gupta and his wife of tax frauds. “3.Shekhar Gupta’s company’s data: He & his wife Neelam Jolly started a company Greenpine Agro Pvt Ltd in 2002. No accounts filed 4 many yrs,” he tweeted.
He alleged that Gupta filed balance sheets of eight years on a single day of 18 January 2010. “Closed down the company by filing EES (Early Exit Scheme like @RahulDumbGandhi backops) on Aug 30, 2010. #ShekharGupta @IndianExpress. Accounts are cooked up. One loan he took in 2002, for a meagre Rs12 lakh shows he that at the time he owned three 2 acre farms #ShekharGupta,” he tweeted
The former army chief said he had proof of all the allegations against Gupta.
On Saturday, Gernal Singh hit out at the UPA government saying that the controversial intelligence unit, Technical Services Division (TSD), was set up by the government itself after the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.
He also slammed Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah following the allegations. “Omar blames all his blunders and misgovernance on Indian Army and he thinks people are fools to believe him,” he said.
The expose that began with a report from the state-held news agency, PTI, has received criticisms from most of the retired military officials.
“When our Secret Ser(vice) Fund is so secret that it is not even audit-able by CAG it is suicidal to expose its spending details in public. When we expose our secret service fund exp(enditure) in a bid to fix Gen VK, it is pathetic that we are not realising the damages it can inflict,” Col (retd) NR Kurup, who is an RTI activist, had tweeted on 21 September.
“I wish our Hon’ble Def(ence) Min should have spared some time to learn about Tech Support Group sanctioned by him before making the issue public,” he added.
General Singh also filed a Right to Information on Monday seeking an army board of enquiry report on the military unit TSD.
http://idrw.org/?p=27194#more-27194
Former Indian Army chief general V K Singh lashed out at Shekhar Gupta, editor of The Indian Express, on micro-blogging website Twitter, accusing him of catering to the UPA government for publishing reports against him.
The newspaper daily had published an investigative story dated 20 September 2013, where General Singh is accused of misusing secret service funds to destabilise the Jammu and Kashmir government and to buy off-air interception equipment to conduct ‘unauthorised’ covert operations, based on a report submitted by the army to the Ministry of Defence (MoD).
The MoD declared that it would take action after examining the report by a top army panel. The report contains details of alleged dubious operations by an intelligence unit set up by General Singh.
On Monday, the army general tweeted, “Some pieces of information about Shekhar Gupta, CE @IndianExpress: 1.His company was involved in Commonwealth Games(read scam) too (1/Many). With a 55 Cr house on Malcha marg, he can be trusted to be a UPA stooge. No doubt he has been using IE as a medium to put out slander.”
The Opposition, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), called it a political vendetta against General Singh for he had addressed a rally held by the NDA prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi in Rewari, Haryana, on 15 September.
General Singh further accused Gupta and his wife of tax frauds. “3.Shekhar Gupta’s company’s data: He & his wife Neelam Jolly started a company Greenpine Agro Pvt Ltd in 2002. No accounts filed 4 many yrs,” he tweeted.
He alleged that Gupta filed balance sheets of eight years on a single day of 18 January 2010. “Closed down the company by filing EES (Early Exit Scheme like @RahulDumbGandhi backops) on Aug 30, 2010. #ShekharGupta @IndianExpress. Accounts are cooked up. One loan he took in 2002, for a meagre Rs12 lakh shows he that at the time he owned three 2 acre farms #ShekharGupta,” he tweeted
The former army chief said he had proof of all the allegations against Gupta.
On Saturday, Gernal Singh hit out at the UPA government saying that the controversial intelligence unit, Technical Services Division (TSD), was set up by the government itself after the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.
He also slammed Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah following the allegations. “Omar blames all his blunders and misgovernance on Indian Army and he thinks people are fools to believe him,” he said.
The expose that began with a report from the state-held news agency, PTI, has received criticisms from most of the retired military officials.
“When our Secret Ser(vice) Fund is so secret that it is not even audit-able by CAG it is suicidal to expose its spending details in public. When we expose our secret service fund exp(enditure) in a bid to fix Gen VK, it is pathetic that we are not realising the damages it can inflict,” Col (retd) NR Kurup, who is an RTI activist, had tweeted on 21 September.
“I wish our Hon’ble Def(ence) Min should have spared some time to learn about Tech Support Group sanctioned by him before making the issue public,” he added.
General Singh also filed a Right to Information on Monday seeking an army board of enquiry report on the military unit TSD.
http://idrw.org/?p=27194#more-27194
I was watching Gen Singh's interview given to Arnab Goswami on Times Now.
I feel highly distressed seeing the low level to which this Congress govt. has brought national security issues to.
First the Congress interferes in defence matters and indulges in full public view in a tu-tu mein-mein.
Now by alleging false and ridiculously frivolous charges against Gen. Singh, the Congress govt. is compromising national security because lot of things under wraps (secret) will come out in the open. Like the intelligence work that has and is being done in J&K.
The Congress is hell bent on destablizing our armed forces, the only institution which is binding this country together. The Congress wants to destroy this nation by demoralizing the past and present bravehearts who would think twice before taking any decision in national interest if it is opposed to by the vote hungry politicians.
Really sad!
I feel highly distressed seeing the low level to which this Congress govt. has brought national security issues to.
First the Congress interferes in defence matters and indulges in full public view in a tu-tu mein-mein.
Now by alleging false and ridiculously frivolous charges against Gen. Singh, the Congress govt. is compromising national security because lot of things under wraps (secret) will come out in the open. Like the intelligence work that has and is being done in J&K.
The Congress is hell bent on destablizing our armed forces, the only institution which is binding this country together. The Congress wants to destroy this nation by demoralizing the past and present bravehearts who would think twice before taking any decision in national interest if it is opposed to by the vote hungry politicians.
Really sad!
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This Congress govt. has cultivated a lot of scumbags to blow its trumpet!
The rebuttal of VK Singh has come he put some serious charges against Shekhar Gupta .... hope UPA will do some inquiry against him too :
Former Indian Army chief general V K Singh lashed out at Shekhar Gupta, editor of The Indian Express, on micro-blogging website Twitter, accusing him of catering to the UPA government for publishing reports against him.
The newspaper daily had published an investigative story dated 20 September 2013, where General Singh is accused of misusing secret service funds to destabilise the Jammu and Kashmir government and to buy off-air interception equipment to conduct ‘unauthorised’ covert operations, based on a report submitted by the army to the Ministry of Defence (MoD).
The MoD declared that it would take action after examining the report by a top army panel. The report contains details of alleged dubious operations by an intelligence unit set up by General Singh.
On Monday, the army general tweeted, “Some pieces of information about Shekhar Gupta, CE @IndianExpress: 1.His company was involved in Commonwealth Games(read scam) too (1/Many). With a 55 Cr house on Malcha marg, he can be trusted to be a UPA stooge. No doubt he has been using IE as a medium to put out slander.”
The Opposition, Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), called it a political vendetta against General Singh for he had addressed a rally held by the NDA prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi in Rewari, Haryana, on 15 September.
General Singh further accused Gupta and his wife of tax frauds. “3.Shekhar Gupta’s company’s data: He & his wife Neelam Jolly started a company Greenpine Agro Pvt Ltd in 2002. No accounts filed 4 many yrs,” he tweeted.
He alleged that Gupta filed balance sheets of eight years on a single day of 18 January 2010. “Closed down the company by filing EES (Early Exit Scheme like @RahulDumbGandhi backops) on Aug 30, 2010. #ShekharGupta @IndianExpress. Accounts are cooked up. One loan he took in 2002, for a meagre Rs12 lakh shows he that at the time he owned three 2 acre farms #ShekharGupta,” he tweeted
The former army chief said he had proof of all the allegations against Gupta.
On Saturday, Gernal Singh hit out at the UPA government saying that the controversial intelligence unit, Technical Services Division (TSD), was set up by the government itself after the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.
He also slammed Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah following the allegations. “Omar blames all his blunders and misgovernance on Indian Army and he thinks people are fools to believe him,” he said.
The expose that began with a report from the state-held news agency, PTI, has received criticisms from most of the retired military officials.
“When our Secret Ser(vice) Fund is so secret that it is not even audit-able by CAG it is suicidal to expose its spending details in public. When we expose our secret service fund exp(enditure) in a bid to fix Gen VK, it is pathetic that we are not realising the damages it can inflict,” Col (retd) NR Kurup, who is an RTI activist, had tweeted on 21 September.
“I wish our Hon’ble Def(ence) Min should have spared some time to learn about Tech Support Group sanctioned by him before making the issue public,” he added.
General Singh also filed a Right to Information on Monday seeking an army board of enquiry report on the military unit TSD.
http://idrw.org/?p=27194#more-27194
sumitjattan
New member
Well that reports also says that India is conducting covert operation in Pak ... an act of war and i bet no one is going to put a commission the check this leak
They did it before too .. they said he wanted to toppled the govt in 2012 Jan ...then they leaked the letter to Defence Minister where Gen Singh highlighted the loop holes and deficiency of ammunition and night fighting capability of Tanks .... its seems a perfect case of personal Vendetta
They did it before too .. they said he wanted to toppled the govt in 2012 Jan ...then they leaked the letter to Defence Minister where Gen Singh highlighted the loop holes and deficiency of ammunition and night fighting capability of Tanks .... its seems a perfect case of personal Vendetta
I was watching Gen Singh's interview given to Arnab Goswami on Times Now.
I feel highly distressed seeing the low level that this Congress govt. has brought national security issues.
First the Congress interferes in defence matters and indulges in full public view in a tu-tu mein-mein.
Now by alleging false and ridiculously frivolous allegations against Gen. Singh, the Congress govt. is compromising national security because lot of things under wraps (secret) will come out in the open. Like the intelligence work that has and is being done in J&K.
The Congress is hell bent on destablizing our armed forces, the only institution which is still binding this country together. The Congress wants to destroy this nation by demoralizing the past and present bravehearts who would think twice before taking any decision in national interest if it is opposed to by the vote hungry politicians.
Really sad!
sumitjattan
New member
Dont expect any unbiased inquiry from this govt when they themselves are responsible for such selective leakages as it came out how the last letter was leaked by some joint secretary in defence ministry to media and you know only news paper which got these news is Indian express which blamed even Kiran Bedi for 2500 Rs or bit more during Anna agitation
I do not know who is right or wrong but this leak a serious question on our defense ministries functionality and an inquiry must be set up to find the leak and book the person under National Security Act.