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maddhan1979
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It is a well know silent fact in some parts of the community that a girl child was either thrown in river or was given tobacco water when she was born.
The above stated fact might be either due to wars/religious systems/ exploitation as these people were immigrants to Indian subcontinent, etc.,
Practice of "Sati" was almost absent, while practice of "Sati", was prominent in some communities.
These incidences were seen in any ancient community, fighting wars after wars in ancient cultures.
maddhan1979
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It is a well known silent fact in some parts of the community that a girl child was either thrown in river or was given tobacco water when she was born.
The above stated fact might be either due to wars/religious systems/ exploitation as these people were immigrants to Indian subcontinent, etc.,
Practice of "Sati" was almost absent in Jats and similar communities, while practice of "Sati", was prominent in some communities.
Interestingly Jats and similar tribes do represent ancient Judic people, ancient middle east people, ancient Roman+Greek people and ancient Eurasians
maddhan1979
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How can we say that evil practices were of the origin of religious thought process?
In history we find women warriors, women who faught battles in form of armies and in form of individuals.
While on the religious thought process, there have been cases of mass suicides.
In Indian context for ages "birth of a child" and "death of a person" has always been related with religious ceremonies.
So, it is probable that religious though process could be the reason behind evil practices like "Sati".
Had there been a warrior thought process prevailing at time period the women who committed suicides would have been trained to be warriors as well.
No wonder, some community was practicing child marriage in such adverse conditions. Interesting is also the fact that most of the forts built in certain areas were built after Islam started arriving in India. As most of the Eurasian tribes came to India through north west routes it is possible that the tribes which adopted Islam were in northwestern region were also from the same origins. While religious practices were always involved in producing "Dev" in one form or the other words like "Yad", were used by educated class to connect with newcomers and and start a new lesson to overwrite the original history of these migrating tribe and impose a new fictitious history.
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maddhan1979
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What to be careful about?
India has a lot of people living at a different level of economic and mental starta.
Family lives/individual lives, etc., might be affected, these are external factors that affect everyday life.
What are these?
India has a lot of people living at a different level of economic and mental starta.
Family lives/individual lives, etc., might be affected, these are external factors that affect everyday life.
What are these?
maddhan1979
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Newborn children being exchanged at the time of the birth?
maddhan1979
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Free flowing drugs/intoxicating things added to food/ air, water,etc.,?
maddhan1979
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It is hard to say, what exactly happened in ancient history that made some community stopped having a girl child. These type of bad facts without proper archaeological discovery of ancient history and a history told and driven by religious mindset can only lead to problems in future as people get more educated and learn about their ancient past.
maddhan1979
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Closing of ancient silk route and northern/northwestern travel routes would have led to a situation where these ancient tribes travelling into India for trade or bought as slaves or came as invading armies were not able to escape/travel or meet other tribes, etc. This ancient thought could very well be true as we know that even "Alexander the Great", did not move beyond present day Punjab, as in ancient times moving inside beyond Punjab into India could have created a trap where ancient Punjab was filled with rivers and marshes and in the north were Himalayas, so escape for these people was almost impossible.
Later Armies like that of Scythians did travel into India but again with time the ancient connections with Eurasia, China, Mangolia,etc., were closed, time and time again. Then there was a continuous process of Dhasanskar or Dha ka Sanskar(sanskar is a religious word), burning the dead and not burying the dead, thereby removing the ancient blood and tribal links of these tribes. What remains today are the words/names/languages, etc., that these tribes and people still carry forward, which still link them to these ancient roots.
Later Armies like that of Scythians did travel into India but again with time the ancient connections with Eurasia, China, Mangolia,etc., were closed, time and time again. Then there was a continuous process of Dhasanskar or Dha ka Sanskar(sanskar is a religious word), burning the dead and not burying the dead, thereby removing the ancient blood and tribal links of these tribes. What remains today are the words/names/languages, etc., that these tribes and people still carry forward, which still link them to these ancient roots.
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maddhan1979
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These north western tribes have IndoEuropean roots and words, socioreligiousbusiness and feudal mindset has shown to be a negative exploitation of these tribes. Reason for this ancient past were based on some sections of society which were able to exploit and change original history due to ignorance and lack of knowledge.
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maddhan1979
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So, we see two very different lines of thought one running on socioreligious thought and other on existence thought.
It seems throughout history of India socioreligious thought has dominated minds and lives of people.
While socioreligious thought advocated and influenced society to burn a women alive other advocated her to survive, while the one which advocated female survival seems to be weaker all throughout the history.
This is evident even now in the mindset of majority.
It seems throughout history of India socioreligious thought has dominated minds and lives of people.
While socioreligious thought advocated and influenced society to burn a women alive other advocated her to survive, while the one which advocated female survival seems to be weaker all throughout the history.
This is evident even now in the mindset of majority.
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maddhan1979
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So, we see two very different lines of thought one running on socioreligious thought and other on existence thought.
It seems throughout history of India socioreligious thought has dominated minds and lives of people.
While socioreligious thought advocated and influenced society to burn a women alive other advocated her to survive, while the one which advocated female survival seems to be weaker all throughout the history.
This is evident even now in the mindset of majority.
These incidences can still be seen in India as they still take place in one form or other through socioreligiouspolitical thought process
maddhan1979
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There would have been unaccounted loss of women and children, in ancient past in the context of "Sati", slaves taken in ancient past, etc.
It seems there were there were these socioreligious rituals in past which were common among the religiously driven societies.
In ancient past fatalities among men in the field was higher as compared to women.
Newcomers to the land who came to India as travelers/people fleeing wars/ soldiers of ancient armies/armies which lost wars, etc., or even the ancient armies which came to India and settled in Indian subcontinent would have faced similar situations.
In long run this could/would have a created a society of chaos
This would also have given rise/dominance of certain sections of society through socioeconomicreligious politics and policies.
It seems there were there were these socioreligious rituals in past which were common among the religiously driven societies.
In ancient past fatalities among men in the field was higher as compared to women.
Newcomers to the land who came to India as travelers/people fleeing wars/ soldiers of ancient armies/armies which lost wars, etc., or even the ancient armies which came to India and settled in Indian subcontinent would have faced similar situations.
In long run this could/would have a created a society of chaos
This would also have given rise/dominance of certain sections of society through socioeconomicreligious politics and policies.
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There would have been unaccounted loss of women and children, in ancient past in the context of "Sati", slaves taken in ancient past, etc.
It seems there were these socioreligious rituals in past which were common among the religiously driven societies.
Very obvious, and these rituals still prevail in our society like cursing woman for anything wrong happened to man's family or to him. Isn't it? Infact, a woman speaks so to another woman in the family where she has to be bounded to accept her fault by the pressure of society then because outsider does not peep into the personal daily matter. Also, a woman decide herself to be helpless or to be a strong one to face the circumstances without troubling near ones. Infact, I have undergone such dilemma of life.