Intercaste Marriages.

[rajivsp]

My 100th post for a ASLI JAT

Ravinder do you have a Bank Account with some Jatu Bank ? SAHUKARI - Jat ka kam nahi

Do you eat chappatis only if made by aata from a Jataa ki chakki
CHAKKI Chalana - Jat ka kam nahi
Do you watch News strictly by Jat correspondents
Baten Banana- Jat ka kam nahi
Do you use a Jat - made keyboard & PC to use Jatland ... oops i mean I dont think you know any other site other than this .....
KHITPIT- Jat ka kam nahi
Do you walk on Jat made roads ....
ROAD Banana- Jat ka kam nahi
If not ....... then ........ you are a hybrid Jat/nakli Jat/milaawati Jat/Doosri jaatiyo pe Dependent Jat/abhi yehi kaafi hai ...... :tamatar:boxing

Its not fair, there are only a few ASLI Jats here on JL and I think Ch. Ravinder Sura must be the leader of them.

Asli Jat Dil se, Dimag se, Juban se Khara hota hai- Sachcha hota hai - issi liye kadwa bhi hota hai. Aur Lath chalane mein Mahir Hota hai.

Aur issi Lath se vo unki ( above said) AAN, BAAN, SHAN BACHATA aya hai.

Ch. Charan Singh was also advocate of intercaste marriages and if I am not wrong he himself gone for such marriage. result.........

 

[arvind1069]

agar karam se hoti hain to ek baniye ke haath se lath ya banduk chalwa ke dekha de maan jaunga bhai tane ...
bhai aapne hybreed aur desi beejo ke bare me suna hoga , dono k taste me farak hota hain, desi khane me swaad hota hain par paidhawar me kam aur hybreed dekhne me achha hota hain paidhawar me jyaadha par khaane me swaad nahi hota....

mere bhai...sikhon ke sabhi guru khatri the, including guru gobind singh. koi bhi jat nahi tha...
aap ye nahi keh sakte ki veerta sirf jat jaati main hai. time aane par baniya bhi lad sakta hai..
aur ye batao ki mahabharat ke arjun, bhim,..veer kya jaat the? aur kya america, britian main koi bahadur nahi hota?
and perhaps u know that the bravest, and the fierciest batalion in indian army is gurkha regiment, not jat regiment

 

[arvind1069]

before our dear moderators react here , i would like to ask you all a question....

i agree with the above statement of arvind....though i didn't read all the posts but whatever i read is agreeable, whether in favour or opposition.....and if talking about my personal feeling to main thori ulti hun....ya kuch bhi laga lo aap sab.....mujhe parents dusri community mein shaadi karne ke liye bolen to bhi mera mann nahin karta....saaf bolti hun unse....akeli rah jaaungi, wo theek []...and seriously, i stand by my words

now the question is that.....agar inter-caste system ko approval milta raha from every side..then.....won't it add to the muslim community after few decades....in the sense....just the child born from same mother can't marry each other, rest everybody can get marry with the person coming from any kind relationship.....don't you think so???????......its a ques. from my side to all.......maan liya ki ek pandit hai aur dusra baniya, to kiska gotra chhodenge.....now again their child can go into the third community....kaun bhai, kaun behan,.....ye kaise samjhenge????......aaj to hum mummy ke gotra waale kisi bhi insaan se milte hain to bhai-behan ka nata easily samajh jaate hain.....and this way a community stands tall

....waise to aajkal nuclear family ka jyada chalan hai to jab family group hi chhota hota jaa raha hai to no doubts ki iss tarah se to shayad community group bhi chhota ho sakta hai (this is all what i feel about).....that's why i don't prefer to settle abroad

so, first clear my above highlighted point (may be you find it very stupid but pls make it clear)

second thing, i don't hate muslims....they are the part of our society....but what if the same muslim like culture is being follwed everywhere that regarding marriage??????....think a little beyond your own marriage customs

neelam ji
maa ka gotra chora jayega, aur pita ka apnaya jayega. yehi vedic reeti hai

 

[arvind1069]

before our dear moderators react here , i would like to ask you all a question....

i agree with the above statement of arvind....though i didn't read all the posts but whatever i read is agreeable, whether in favour or opposition.....and if talking about my personal feeling to main thori ulti hun....ya kuch bhi laga lo aap sab.....mujhe parents dusri community mein shaadi karne ke liye bolen to bhi mera mann nahin karta....saaf bolti hun unse....akeli rah jaaungi, wo theek []...and seriously, i stand by my words

now the question is that.....agar inter-caste system ko approval milta raha from every side..then.....won't it add to the muslim community after few decades....in the sense....just the child born from same mother can't marry each other, rest everybody can get marry with the person coming from any kind relationship.....don't you think so???????......its a ques. from my side to all.......maan liya ki ek pandit hai aur dusra baniya, to kiska gotra chhodenge.....now again their child can go into the third community....kaun bhai, kaun behan,.....ye kaise samjhenge????......aaj to hum mummy ke gotra waale kisi bhi insaan se milte hain to bhai-behan ka nata easily samajh jaate hain.....and this way a community stands tall

....waise to aajkal nuclear family ka jyada chalan hai to jab family group hi chhota hota jaa raha hai to no doubts ki iss tarah se to shayad community group bhi chhota ho sakta hai (this is all what i feel about).....that's why i don't prefer to settle abroad

so, first clear my above highlighted point (may be you find it very stupid but pls make it clear)

second thing, i don't hate muslims....they are the part of our society....but what if the same muslim like culture is being follwed everywhere that regarding marriage??????....think a little beyond your own marriage customs

aur rahi baat muslims ki..to muslim culture, hindu culture se itna jyada different hai ki aise cases bahut hi kum honge (jab kisi hindu muslim ka vivah hoga). it will neither annhilate jats nor muslims. uske baare main hame jyada fikar karne ki jarurat nahi hai. important thing is to abolish the caste system.

 

[arvind1069]

mere priye mitro..ab suno jara..swami dayanand, ved, aur logic kya kehte hai is baare main.
hame pehle jaati ka matlab samajh lena chahiye.
"sman prasav: jaati"
samaan jaati vaale voh hote hai jinka aapas main sanyog hokar santaanotpatti ho sakti ho(means they can produce an offspring after mating). an indian can mate with an african or chinese and give birth to a child. it means they have a same jaati. is aadhaar par sab manushoyon ki jaati samaan hai.
a horse and a lion cannot mate and hence they cant produce an offspring. it means ki horse aur lion different jaati ke pashu hai. jaati ka saara khel yahin tak hai. ISKE ALAAWA JAATI KA KOI ARTH NAHI HAI.

jiske liye hum jaati shabad ka prayog kar rahe hain, asal maiin vo "varn" hai. aap logon ne varnashram dharam ke baare main suna hoga vedic litreture main.
iske according varn sirf chaar hai viz. Brahman (scholars, teachers, saatvick and noble people), Kshtriya (administrators, fighters), vaish (bussinessmen, tradesmen), shudra (workers). aur inme bhi koi nimn nahi hai.
AND MOST IMPORTANT THESE ARE BASED ON THE NATURE AND QUALITIES OF A PERSON, NOT HIS BIRTH. VISHWAMITRA KSHTRIYA PARIWAAR MAI PAIDA HUE THE, MAGAR UNHONE KARAM BRAHMAN KE KIYE AUR VO BRAHMAN KEHLAAYE. PARSHURAM BRAHMAN KE GHAR PAIDA HUE, MAGAR KARM UNHONE KSHTRIYE KE KIYE, SO VO KSHTRIYE KEHLAAYE.
TO JAATI YA VARN JO BHI AAPNE KEHNA HAI VO JANAM SE NAHI AADMI KE NATURE SE AUR QUALITIES SE HOTA HAI.
AGAR EK VYAKTI EK HARIJAN KE GHAR MAIN PAIDA HOKAR BHI EK KSHTRIYE KE GUN, KARM, SWABHAV RAKHTA HAI, TO VO KSHTRIYE HI KEHLAAYEGA...THIS IS MY FIRM OPINION.
INDIA KI BARBAADI HI TAB SHURU HUI HAI JAB VARN KO JANAM SE MAANA JAANE LAGA. EK KSHTRIYE KE GHAR MAIN EK KAAYAR BHI PAIDA HOKAR KSHTRIYE KEHLANE LAGA AUR EK BRAHMAN KE GHAR MAIN EK MOORKH BHI PAIDA HOKAR BRAHMAN KEHLAANE LAGA. YEHI TO SAARI BIMAARI KI JAD HAI...

 

[choudharyneelam]

aur rahi baat muslims ki..to muslim culture, hindu culture se itna jyada different hai ki aise cases bahut hi kum honge (jab kisi hindu muslim ka vivah hoga). it will neither annhilate jats nor muslims. uske baare main hame jyada fikar karne ki jarurat nahi hai. important thing is to abolish the caste system.

fikr karne ke liye to aur bhi bahaut baatein hain, yahan to bas opinion maanga tha.....baaki ye caste system abolish karne hi baat to aise kahi jaa rahi hai jaise ki ghar bana kar tayyar to kar diya lekin wo pasand nahin aa raha, kyunki samay ka badlaav hai, naye designs aa rahe hain.....issliye todkar naya banane ki sochi hai....aisa insaan bas yahi karta rah jata hai, aur bani banai sampatti nasht karta hai....same is with the culture

aur maine ye nahin kaha ki totally same culture ban jaayega muslims ke jaisa....sirf marrige ke maamle mein bola hai.....agar aap ek baar fir dhyan den to padhenge ki maine likha hai....in inter-caste marriage both the parents are from different community, and their child can go into the third community, aur ye badhta hi rahega....problem to wahin aayegi jab ye jyada complex ho jaayega.....to asli fikr to shayad tab hogi....baaki to aaj aur abhi ki chinta aisi shaadi karne waale kyun sochenge, as they want to enjoy the life their own way

ek samajhdar aadmi doctor ko kisi bimari ke liye last stage par consult nahin karta, balki koshish karta hai ki pahle hi rok de bimari ko agar ho sake to....baaki bhagwan ki marzi

so i just wrote my opinions and asked a little ques. (seems many found it stupid, as i was expecting the same earlier) for which i didn't get the satisfactory response....anyways, will discuss it at some other place to have a clear understanding whether that really can happen or not

 

[anilsinghd]

Its not fair, there are only a few ASLI Jats here on JL and I think Ch. Ravinder Sura must be the leader of them.

Asli Jat Dil se, Dimag se, Juban se Khara hota hai- Sachcha hota hai - issi liye kadwa bhi hota hai. Aur Lath chalane mein Mahir Hota hai.

Aur issi Lath se vo unki ( above said) AAN, BAAN, SHAN BACHATA aya hai.

Ch. Charan Singh was also advocate of intercaste marriages and if I am not wrong he himself gone for such marriage. result.........

Moderatos / Senior Members / Administrators :

Please provide the workflow as to how this would be achieved.

This is indeed very much needed. Please do the needful!

And also please remove all NAKLI JATS from the website!

As Ch.Ravinder Sura and his followers might not appreciate the presence of them here!

And yes , Only Desi types , Banduk chalaane waale should be left over here , please strictly ban those who do not meet the criterion

 

[vijay]

Banduk chalaane waale should be left over here

And that Banduk ( don't dare to call it a Gun as the word is strictly non-jat ) should be made by jats only but should not designed and manufactured by some other coward community. Otherwise the banduk is also milawati. Ultimately it will not work whenever needed and would be the major reason for the defeat of a Jat Warrior.

 

[sunillathwal]

And that Banduk ( don't dare to call it a Gun as the word is strictly non-jat ) should be made by jats only but should not designed and manufactured by some other coward community. Otherwise the banduk is also milawati. Ultimately it will not work whenever needed and would be the major reason for the defeat of a Jat Warrior.

Lets it stretch it slightly more:

Us Asli-JAT Bandook ki goli sirf Asli Jat pe hi chalni chahiye.. nahi to Nakli Jat k khoon mein jake wo to bilkul hi MILAWATI ho jayegi..
ek asli JAT goli ka to charitarr hi kharab ho jayega.. kisi non-Jat k sath sampark mein aake !!!
Aur Cheekh-Cheekh k puakaregi wo asli JAT-goli ki ye atyaachar hai ek goli k upar!!

 

[raka]

Ravinder do you have a Bank Account with some Jatu Bank ?

Do you eat chappatis only if made by aata from a Jataa ki chakki

Do you watch News strictly by Jat correspondents

Do you use a Jat - made keyboard & PC to use Jatland ... oops i mean I dont think you know any other site other than this .....

Do you walk on Jat made roads ....

If not ....... then ........ you are a hybrid Jat/nakli Jat/milaawati Jat/Doosri jaatiyo pe Dependent Jat/abhi yehi kaafi hai ...... :tamatar:boxing

chhori isne dependent nahi kahte , jo dushra pe kaam le wohe asli choudhary ho s..
pahle mahre khetta me ek chamar sajji hoya karta thha iska matlab yo nahi ki haam uss pe depend thhe..
sooo baat ki ek baat ya s ki raaj aali kursi pe jat ( choudhary)hona chahiye.

 

[raka]

mere priye mitro..ab suno jara..swami dayanand, ved, aur logic kya kehte hai is baare main.
hame pehle jaati ka matlab samajh lena chahiye.
"sman prasav: jaati"
samaan jaati vaale voh hote hai jinka aapas main sanyog hokar santaanotpatti ho sakti ho(means they can produce an offspring after mating). an indian can mate with an african or chinese and give birth to a child. it means they have a same jaati. is aadhaar par sab manushoyon ki jaati samaan hai.
a horse and a lion cannot mate and hence they cant produce an offspring. it means ki horse aur lion different jaati ke pashu hai. jaati ka saara khel yahin tak hai. ISKE ALAAWA JAATI KA KOI ARTH NAHI HAI.

jiske liye hum jaati shabad ka prayog kar rahe hain, asal maiin vo "varn" hai. aap logon ne varnashram dharam ke baare main suna hoga vedic litreture main.
iske according varn sirf chaar hai viz. Brahman (scholars, teachers, saatvick and noble people), Kshtriya (administrators, fighters), vaish (bussinessmen, tradesmen), shudra (workers). aur inme bhi koi nimn nahi hai.
AND MOST IMPORTANT THESE ARE BASED ON THE NATURE AND QUALITIES OF A PERSON, NOT HIS BIRTH. VISHWAMITRA KSHTRIYA PARIWAAR MAI PAIDA HUE THE, MAGAR UNHONE KARAM BRAHMAN KE KIYE AUR VO BRAHMAN KEHLAAYE. PARSHURAM BRAHMAN KE GHAR PAIDA HUE, MAGAR KARM UNHONE KSHTRIYE KE KIYE, SO VO KSHTRIYE KEHLAAYE.
TO JAATI YA VARN JO BHI AAPNE KEHNA HAI VO JANAM SE NAHI AADMI KE NATURE SE AUR QUALITIES SE HOTA HAI.
AGAR EK VYAKTI EK HARIJAN KE GHAR MAIN PAIDA HOKAR BHI EK KSHTRIYE KE GUN, KARM, SWABHAV RAKHTA HAI, TO VO KSHTRIYE HI KEHLAAYEGA...THIS IS MY FIRM OPINION.
INDIA KI BARBAADI HI TAB SHURU HUI HAI JAB VARN KO JANAM SE MAANA JAANE LAGA. EK KSHTRIYE KE GHAR MAIN EK KAAYAR BHI PAIDA HOKAR KSHTRIYE KEHLANE LAGA AUR EK BRAHMAN KE GHAR MAIN EK MOORKH BHI PAIDA HOKAR BRAHMAN KEHLAANE LAGA. YEHI TO SAARI BIMAARI KI JAD HAI...

vran vaivastha matlab koi zaati paati nahi..
hum jyadatar hindu jat iss arya samaj ko mante hain , to kya kissi ne dusri zaati me apni chhori ya chhora byaaha ho to batao,kisi ne bhaaj ke baisak byaah kar liya ho wo niyarri baat s , bhai arvind aap ke ghaar ki bi sari rishtedari jato me hi hogi.aap log bi iss arya samaj ko mante hoge.
hindu jato ka sab se pichhe rahne ka karan iss arya samaj ko manan hain.
adde bi kai isse honge jisne dushri zaatiyo me byaah kar rakhya hoga , unn ta puchh lyo k result s, ek aadha upwad to alag baat s bakki sare pachhtate honge.
kyuki vichar mil hi nahi sakte , ek brahman ke alag vichar honge , ek mahajan ke alag , harijan ke alag honge., suru me naya naya chaw ho s pachhe bera patte s ak apna khoon k ho s aur praya k ho s.

 

[prashanthooda]

agar karam se hoti hain to ek baniye ke haath se lath ya banduk chalwa ke dekha de maan jaunga bhai tane ...
bhai aapne hybreed aur desi beejo ke bare me suna hoga , dono k taste me farak hota hain, desi khane me swaad hota hain par paidhawar me kam aur hybreed dekhne me achha hota hain paidhawar me jyaadha par khaane me swaad nahi hota....

Baniyas and Brahimns occupy more offices and ranks in numbers then Jats or other marshal castes in the Indian Army/Navy/Air force.

 

[rajivsp]

Kindly dont take literal meaning of Lath or Banduk Chalana. Remember Kiran Bedi - How she had controlled delhi traffic - In her own words - Maine bahut lathi chalai hai.

In staraight forward words--
Fight against injustice.

 

[nishantrathi82]

Baniyas and Brahimns occupy more offices and ranks in numbers then Jats or other marshal castes in the Indian Army/Navy/Air force.

Very true

Ye taaga ib lo chaal raha hai

 

[shweta123]

chhori isne dependent nahi kahte , jo dushra pe kaam le wohe asli choudhary ho s..
pahle mahre khetta me ek chamar sajji hoya karta thha iska matlab yo nahi ki haam uss pe depend thhe..
sooo baat ki ek baat ya s ki raaj aali kursi pe jat ( choudhary)hona chahiye.

Kaise nahi dependent the !! saare chamaar kaam band kar dete to aapne hi karna padta ak na?? So, you were dependent :rock

Saari jaati yadi aapka bahishkaar kar de to aap aap toilet saaff karne se lekar aataa peesne tak ka saara kaam khud hi karoge na ya fer haath pe haath dharre choudharr karte hue maran ki baat johoge ....

SO YOU ARE DEPENDENT :tamatar

 

[shweta123]

mere priye mitro..ab suno jara..swami dayanand, ved, aur logic kya kehte hai is baare main.
hame pehle jaati ka matlab samajh lena chahiye.
"sman prasav: jaati"
samaan jaati vaale voh hote hai jinka aapas main sanyog hokar santaanotpatti ho sakti ho(means they can produce an offspring after mating). an indian can mate with an african or chinese and give birth to a child. it means they have a same jaati. is aadhaar par sab manushoyon ki jaati samaan hai.
a horse and a lion cannot mate and hence they cant produce an offspring. it means ki horse aur lion different jaati ke pashu hai. jaati ka saara khel yahin tak hai. ISKE ALAAWA JAATI KA KOI ARTH NAHI HAI.

jiske liye hum jaati shabad ka prayog kar rahe hain, asal maiin vo "varn" hai. aap logon ne varnashram dharam ke baare main suna hoga vedic litreture main.
iske according varn sirf chaar hai viz. Brahman (scholars, teachers, saatvick and noble people), Kshtriya (administrators, fighters), vaish (bussinessmen, tradesmen), shudra (workers). aur inme bhi koi nimn nahi hai.
AND MOST IMPORTANT THESE ARE BASED ON THE NATURE AND QUALITIES OF A PERSON, NOT HIS BIRTH. VISHWAMITRA KSHTRIYA PARIWAAR MAI PAIDA HUE THE, MAGAR UNHONE KARAM BRAHMAN KE KIYE AUR VO BRAHMAN KEHLAAYE. PARSHURAM BRAHMAN KE GHAR PAIDA HUE, MAGAR KARM UNHONE KSHTRIYE KE KIYE, SO VO KSHTRIYE KEHLAAYE.
TO JAATI YA VARN JO BHI AAPNE KEHNA HAI VO JANAM SE NAHI AADMI KE NATURE SE AUR QUALITIES SE HOTA HAI.
AGAR EK VYAKTI EK HARIJAN KE GHAR MAIN PAIDA HOKAR BHI EK KSHTRIYE KE GUN, KARM, SWABHAV RAKHTA HAI, TO VO KSHTRIYE HI KEHLAAYEGA...THIS IS MY FIRM OPINION.
INDIA KI BARBAADI HI TAB SHURU HUI HAI JAB VARN KO JANAM SE MAANA JAANE LAGA. EK KSHTRIYE KE GHAR MAIN EK KAAYAR BHI PAIDA HOKAR KSHTRIYE KEHLANE LAGA AUR EK BRAHMAN KE GHAR MAIN EK MOORKH BHI PAIDA HOKAR BRAHMAN KEHLAANE LAGA. YEHI TO SAARI BIMAARI KI JAD HAI...

This is the best philosophy it being logical, rational & unbiased.

 

[raka]

Kaise nahi dependent the !! saare chamaar kaam band kar dete to aapne hi karna padta ak na?? So, you were dependent :rock

Saari jaati yadi aapka bahishkaar kar de to aap aap toilet saaff karne se lekar aataa peesne tak ka saara kaam khud hi karoge na ya fer haath pe haath dharre choudharr karte hue maran ki baat johoge ....

SO YOU ARE DEPENDENT :tamatar

chhori , choudhar aur kya n kahya kare.... dushro pe command karne ko choudhar kahte hain... agar aapki command me kami hain to ye bahiskaar alle halat ho sakte hain , agar aap pakke choudhary so to ye halat nahi aane do ge..

 

[mittu]

vran vaivastha matlab koi zaati paati nahi..
hum jyadatar hindu jat iss arya samaj ko mante hain , to kya kissi ne dusri zaati me apni chhori ya chhora byaaha ho to batao,kisi ne bhaaj ke baisak byaah kar liya ho wo niyarri baat s , bhai arvind aap ke ghaar ki bi sari rishtedari jato me hi hogi.aap log bi iss arya samaj ko mante hoge.
hindu jato ka sab se pichhe rahne ka karan iss arya samaj ko manan hain.
adde bi kai isse honge jisne dushri zaatiyo me byaah kar rakhya hoga , unn ta puchh lyo k result s, ek aadha upwad to alag baat s bakki sare pachhtate honge.
kyuki vichar mil hi nahi sakte , ek brahman ke alag vichar honge , ek mahajan ke alag , harijan ke alag honge., suru me naya naya chaw ho s pachhe bera patte s ak apna khoon k ho s aur praya k ho s.

its not a fair question that how many inter-caste marriage are successful, even marriages in same caste can face the same music and they do!
gaon mein maximum shaadiya same caste ki hoti hai, fir bhi batware hote hai, koi khaas ijjat nahin hoti saas saasur ki, bas gaon mein divorce nahin hote kyu ki females are not independent enough to take stand against their men and jaats are too backward a class to think bout punar-vivaah(re-marriage), so social pressure is immense.
If there is a question about compatibility(vichaar milna!!) then i guess we(jats) have many friends in different castes and we do enjoy the company of other castes(although we can not share haryanvi jokes!!)...so being from same caste does not guarantee compatibility.

aur rahi baat chodhar pane ki to kaam nikalwane mein punjabi and baniye bhi kisi se kam nahin hai, and i guess jats are most arrogant type. from my knowledge choudhary is just a prefix used by "owners of agricultural land", nothing more, its not associated with any caste.

 

[kannumix]

yaaro jo intercaste marriage kai HAAQ mai hai wo bahut acchi misal kayam kar rahai hai agai anai walo kai liyai or mai to kahta hu ki chamar chudai tali nai dhobi dhanak in sab mai jis ka jahan dil karai shadi karai jo intercaste marriage cahtai hai or baki ham jaisai pichdo ko pichda hi rahnai dai
waisai in sab ki boli bhi alag trah ki hoti hai matlab kai chamar ki boli kuch es tarah ki hoti hai
tai chaca kiyanh gaya tha
bhai karo khub karo intercaste marriage par or kisi ko bhi kyo mashwara dai rahai ho :boxing

 

[choudharyneelam]

an indian can mate with an african or chinese and give birth to a child. it means they have a same jaati. is aadhaar par sab manushoyon ki jaati samaan hai.
a horse and a lion cannot mate and hence they cant produce an offspring. it means ki horse aur lion different jaati ke pashu hai. jaati ka saara khel yahin tak hai. ISKE ALAAWA JAATI KA KOI ARTH NAHI HAI

very logical

varn sirf chaar hai viz. Brahman (scholars, teachers, saatvick and noble people), Kshtriya (administrators, fighters), vaish (bussinessmen, tradesmen), shudra (workers).

very true as per i read in some books

AND MOST IMPORTANT THESE ARE BASED ON THE NATURE AND QUALITIES OF A PERSON, NOT HIS BIRTH.

totally right

TO JAATI YA VARN JO BHI AAPNE KEHNA HAI VO JANAM SE NAHI AADMI KE NATURE SE AUR QUALITIES SE HOTA HAI. AGAR EK VYAKTI EK HARIJAN KE GHAR MAIN PAIDA HOKAR BHI EK KSHTRIYE KE GUN, KARM, SWABHAV RAKHTA HAI, TO VO KSHTRIYE HI KEHLAAYEGA...THIS IS MY FIRM OPINION.

appreciable thought

INDIA KI BARBAADI HI TAB SHURU HUI HAI JAB VARN KO JANAM SE MAANA JAANE LAGA.

now you might stand a little wrong here......There are total 4 Varnas. As you said above about mating, read it again and think well. If no boundations are kept here then two people can have a new born even with the cousin relationship because by nature one might be having the qualities of brahmin varna whereas the other having qualities of kshtriya varna but both born under the same varna, say kshtriya. This way the respected relationships can be totally distorted and deteriorated b'coz each other don't know who is from which caste.....i think ki some such things might be experienced and due to that the caste system then came into existance....warna Kshtriya, yaani ki rajput aur jaat ko kya padi thi ki wo ek varna ke hoke bhi alag alag kahlaayen.....still we jaat cannot marry in rajput community, uske peeche bhi ek kahani hai which i don't remember exactly aur inn dono castes mein bhai-chara hai....inhi sab baaton ko soch ke maine muslim culture ko yahan highlight kiya tha, jahan sirf ek maan se janme bacche apas mein shaadi nahin karte, lekin apne mama ya bua kisi ke bhi bacchon se koi pabandi nahin hoti.....so you wanna have such kind of marriage system after abolishing this caste system?

EK KSHTRIYE KE GHAR MAIN EK KAAYAR BHI PAIDA HOKAR KSHTRIYE KEHLANE LAGA AUR EK BRAHMAN KE GHAR MAIN EK MOORKH BHI PAIDA HOKAR BRAHMAN KEHLAANE LAGA.

true it is.....but that is a kind of identity which helps us to know and understand not only the relationship of father and mother but also the other important relationships with which we are surronded by

and if u still don't appreciate it, then why you having a gotra like chahal after your name?????

aur ladka-ladki sirf apni intercaste shaadi karwane ke chakkar mein kitab ki knowledge adaate hain....i don't understand why don't they learn to develop their own insight and philosophy....books are just the way to teach you to develop such qualities through knowledge, its not to make you stick with every word like science principles or laws