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Dear Aman

I feel, you are very 2 insensitive person!
How many times have you used 'ugly' word for a human being, that too a women?
It is my strong belief that you need some help.
I also believe that you need someone who is beautiful from inside, particularly a women!
I hope and pray that you will get someone very soon and would get some AMAN inside you!
God bless you!
 
Aman yaar chill down.. I think you assume things quite fast.. Life is not some movie storey. I request you to use at least 'Not good looking' in place of Ugly.. History has witnessed the downfall of those societies and people those don't respect Woman..

You preception may be correct though I dont agree.. .. I found many times that Gal with average looks are more humble and Sobre as compared to those mirror cracking material...

Again I am not deriving some theory.. Its what I have noticed and There are very good chances for this Observation may not be correct for you.

Cheers,
Yudhvir Mor
 
spdeshwal said:
Dear Aman

I feel, you are very 2 insensitive person!
How many times have you used 'ugly' word for a human being, that too a women?
It is my strong belief that you need some help.
I also believe that you need someone who is beautiful from inside, particularly a women!
I hope and pray that you will get someone very soon and would get some AMAN inside you!
God bless you!
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Do you identify with any of my examples above? May be that explains your outburst. May be I am wrong, only you know better and only you can tell.

By the way those 2 examples above are from real life of other jats that I and their own close relatives have witnessed personally. And all of us have come to the same conclusions - like I expressed above.

So truth is truth and it is what it is.
Cheers.
I still stand by my statement that most NOT good Looking people are also NOT Good from inside. Like I said my opinion is that it applies to members of the both sex. (is that less hurtful?)
So no need for you to mention that it is just women.

And to the other poster My thoughts - average is not Ugly.
 
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Just a question to you- you are living in a country that has a thriving industry based on improving looks and personality, with too much emphasis on physical appearance, irrespective of gender. Does this mean that majority is good there, and majority is in happy relationships?

amans said:
Do you identify with any of my examples above? May be that explains your outburst. May be I am wrong, only you know better and only you can tell.

By the way those 2 examples above are from real life of other jats that I and their own close relatives have witnessed personally. And all of us have come to the same conclusions - like I expressed above.

So truth is truth and it is what it is.
Cheers.
I still stand by my statement that most NOT good Looking people are also NOT Good from inside. Like I said my opinion is that it applies to members of the both sex. (is that less hurtful?)
So no need for you to mention that it is just women.

And to the other poster My thoughts - average is not Ugly.
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malvika said:
Just a question to you- you are living in a country that has a thriving industry based on improving looks and personality, with too much emphasis on physical appearance, irrespective of gender. Does this mean that majority is good there, and majority is in happy relationships?
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I am talking about natural, god given beauty. Not beauty created artificially with the help of cosmetics and surgery.
 
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amans said:
Shweta, being guy, I don't think about guys in that respect. Therefore I didn't make my observation known.
But it is true that ugly people in general are also ugly inside, be it a guy or a girl.
My theory based on observation is still the same. Most Ugly women are also ugly inside too. Specially when they come to Western countries, their insecurities and jealousies comes out fully. These ugly women try to hold on to their husbands.
Now what kind of men would marry an ugly woman?
My observation:(let us assume it is a jat man)
1. This jat's may have been married before to a pretty woman. And somehow he got divorced or his wife ran away with someone else. With busy life in the West, I have seen that happen in a case. To simplify let us say now this jat guy is divorced.
With some negativity associated with the label of a divorcee this jat guy has hard time finding a pretty jat woman.
So his options are limited.
Therefore he only manages to find an ugly jat woman whose family wants her to get married to a divorced guy because they want her to live a good life in the West.
This jat guy can't get over the fact that his first wife was pretty and the present wife is ugly.
then after marriage!!! he finds out that his ugly wife is also ugly from inside!!
The ugly wife knows the facts very soon.
To hold on to him she tries manipulating him in different ways like downplaying the importance of beauty, passing negative discouraging remarks against pretty women.
Slowly the ugly woman also tries to expands her boundaries of control by trying to discourage other young unmarried men making negative remarks against other pretty women, or in many different other ways.
This guy is basically messesd up now mentally.
If he divorces this one, who is he going to marry?
Now he is clever at hiding this from people who don't know him fully.
He is misreable, pathetic and wants others to feel that too.
For him there is nowhere to go!!!


2. This jat guy would be say less educated with less earning power, he may be handsome though. He may marry an ugly woman because she is far more educated then him and has more earning power. So basically he would marry her for her abilities to earn money!!
But he will soon realize that the ugly woman is uglier inside and that she demands complete control of family affairs. of course she will feel insecurity because of her poor looks and will try to discourage her husband's roving eyes. The husband may realize that he got a bad deal and now he can't get out of it!!! So they both live a life of lies.

Now suppose men in both examples have children with their ugly women. They have basically no way out of their misreable lifes.
Therefore my observation is that most ugly women are ugly from inside too and they not only make lives of their husbands miserable but other people too.
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You look very distracted and a self contradicting person to the core.....
1. In the first test case you argued the pretty woman(who is pretty at heart too according to your theory) left her husband for someone else. How in the world this pretty lady can be argued being good at heart as well when she is leaving her husband(and possibly kids) for someone else??? And
The second wife according to you is ugly from inside as she doesn't allow her husband to flirt openly; here can u tell me how a woman who doesn't allow her husband to wander off to other ladies be called ugly at heart?:rolleyes: You asked whom should he marry if he divorces second wife.....I think he need not marry anyone just like that and wait until he love someone or if it doesn't happen he shouldn't marry at all.:eek:
2. In second test case guy marries the UGLY woman(i am quite sure u didn't find any better word in dictionary) to be financially independent. Then how can he be complaining about total takeover by wife in household matters as he didn't got married for the marriage's sake but for financial freedom and treats wife as a financial institution. Here he is in no position to complain as a financial instituition(say bank) likes to dominate no matter what if it is financing u. Had he chosen the counterpart out of love he wouldn't have been complaining in first place.

And as Shweta rightly argued how can u base your theory on such a narrow base of test cases??? You can not generalize on the basis of 1, 10 or 1000 cases for that matter.
All this i said is in retrospect to ur post and nothing personal so consider your options once again.:):rock
 
vikrantsiwag said:
You look very distracted and a self contradicting person to the core.....
1. In the first test case you argued the pretty woman(who is pretty at heart too according to your theory) left her husband for someone else. How in the world this pretty lady can be argued being good at heart as well when she is leaving her husband(and possibly kids) for someone else??? And
The second wife according to you is ugly from inside as she doesn't allow her husband to flirt openly; here can u tell me how a woman who doesn't allow her husband to wander off to other ladies be called ugly at heart?:rolleyes: You asked whom should he marry if he divorces second wife.....I think he need not marry anyone just like that and wait until he love someone or if it doesn't happen he shouldn't marry at all.:eek:
2. In second test case guy marries the UGLY woman(i am quite sure u didn't find any better word in dictionary) to be financially independent. Then how can he be complaining about total takeover by wife in household matters as he didn't got married for the marriage's sake but for financial freedom and treats wife as a financial institution. Here he is in no position to complain as a financial instituition(say bank) likes to dominate no matter what if it is financing u. Had he chosen the counterpart out of love he wouldn't have been complaining in first place.

And as Shweta rightly argued how can u base your theory on such a narrow base of test cases??? You can not generalize on the basis of 1, 10 or 1000 cases for that matter.
All this i said is in retrospect to ur post and nothing personal so consider your options once again.:):rock
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First read properly then make comments.
1. That question you should ask the husband and the woman who was pretty according to him.
The second wife is Not good looking from outside and Not good looking from inside. That is why husband is fed up with her and she knows that. But he is messed as he has kids from her now. No way out for him, leading a life of lies.
Why would she make discouraging and disparaging comments against all beautiful people then and regularly without any reason?
2. Yes you are quite correct I didn't look up in dictionary to find another word for ugly. Of course it is not as if you or others never uttered this word personally in relation to women. The husband chose her for her abilities and earning power but why she has to be a jerk in every way? ugly from inside besides being ugly from outside too. Just like the not good looking woman in example 1. That didn't mean husband is financially dependent on her either.

Plus what is this touchiness that you and others are trying to selectively single out only women when I said it applies to men too?
What is this moral police thinge a few of you guys have that you make a moral issue out of my observation? And talk as if you are taking the high road?
 
shweta123 said:
Oh !! we have so many theory makers here :rolleyes:;) and too terrific and accurate theories :D:p

Arvind, kindly explain the sample set you took for your well-formulated(:D) theory, the random variables taken and the statistical tool (:tamatar) you used to arrive at this wonderful (:o) theory ????

And yes .... the journal in which it got published and its date and when & where it got certified ? :cool: And in case you arent able to do that then ask yourself 'Who is ugly???' :D;)
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and do u have any statistical data to prove that i m wrong? perhaps u have never think about that...
anyway what r people here trying to prove by ignoring physical attributes? that they r great admirers of inner beauty....dont b hypocrite. ugliness is also a bitter truth of this creation. ugliness can b both from inside and outside....if not than what is the meaning of ugliness? beauty is not only from inside, its also from outside. u wud b a total hypocrite by not admitting that...
people just talk that they dont believe in outer beauty but when it comes to choosing a partner, then everybody will look outer appearance first and decide on that basis..
karni aur kathni main antar...isi ko hypocricy kehte hai
and it apply for guys too....not only girls...
 
amans said:
First read properly then make comments.
1. That question you should ask the husband and the woman who was pretty according to him.
The second wife is Not good looking from outside and Not good looking from inside. That is why husband is fed up with her and she knows that. But he is messed as he has kids from her now. No way out for him, leading a life of lies.
Why would she make discouraging and disparaging comments against all beautiful people then and regularly without any reason?
2. Yes you are quite correct I didn't look up in dictionary to find another word for ugly. Of course it is not as if you or others never uttered this word personally in relation to women. The husband chose her for her abilities and earning power but why she has to be a jerk in every way? ugly from inside besides being ugly from outside too. Just like the not good looking woman in example 1. That didn't mean husband is financially dependent on her either.

Plus what is this touchiness that you and others are trying to selectively single out only women when I said it applies to men too?
What is this moral police thinge a few of you guys have that you make a moral issue out of my observation? And talk as if you are taking the high road?
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Sir,

1. Why should i ask anyone else but you coz u are the only one who is theorizing and supporting this case and scenarios so u r as good a person to be asked as husband.
Earlier u said its the wife who is bad at heart.... Did he ever try not to look at other women and love her with full heart despite her being not so good looking??? So the handsome husband should be accounted equally guilty for forcing her to be UGLY AT HEART(which i again say someone can't be accused of being just by not allowing someone to flirt).

2. Is only ugly and financially independent woman able to dominate the husband....Can't a mirror cracking beautiful who is financially sovereign overpower and dictate her husband??? I've seen many cases in which
pretty(good at heart) woman treat their husband like a scapegoat for everything. Relationships tend to be tilted in one direction say husband's or wife's in almost every case which should rather be an equal relationship. I've seen many guys say "mujhe to aisi chahiye jo meri seva hi karti rahe, mere aage kaan bhi na maare", in this case person should get a domestic help and not a wife(though not completely in accordance with the topic this came out rather intuitively).

And this ugliness connection neither has to deal with Women nor Men, looks don't fill heart with ugliness or beauty.
Also It is no moral policing either.......everybody is dropping in with their views and standpoints as this is supposed to be(and is) a forum where things are discussed.
 
vikrantsiwag said:
Sir,

1. Why should i ask anyone else but you coz u are the only one who is theorizing and supporting this case and scenarios so u r as good a person to be asked as husband.
Earlier u said its the wife who is bad at heart.... Did he ever try not to look at other women and love her with full heart despite her being not so good looking??? So the handsome husband should be accounted equally guilty for forcing her to be UGLY AT HEART(which i again say someone can't be accused of being just by not allowing someone to flirt).

2. Is only ugly and financially independent woman able to dominate the husband....Can't a mirror cracking beautiful who is financially sovereign overpower and dictate her husband??? I've seen many cases in which
pretty(good at heart) woman treat their husband like a scapegoat for everything. Relationships tend to be tilted in one direction say husband's or wife's in almost every case which should rather be an equal relationship. I've seen many guys say "mujhe to aisi chahiye jo meri seva hi karti rahe, mere aage kaan bhi na maare", in this case person should get a domestic help and not a wife(though not completely in accordance with the topic this came out rather intuitively).

And this ugliness connection neither has to deal with Women nor Men, looks don't fill heart with ugliness or beauty.
Also It is no moral policing either.......everybody is dropping in with their views and standpoints as this is supposed to be(and is) a forum where things are discussed.
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Thank you arvind for the support.
Some people just don't want to acknowledge other people's observations that outer beauty matters and many times not good looking women are also not good looking from inside. Also I of the view that marrrying a gori/white girl is also perfectly fine if you both like each other and other personal factors and may even be better then marrying an Indian girl.
This is getting hilarious.
1. The husband who married the Not good looking woman is devotional to her. Actually he is subservient to her. But the Not good looking woman is obnoxious, jealous and makes negative comments about every person who is handsome/pretty besides being controlling not only of him but others too! I have seen the same in other Not good looking women too.
2. In other case too, the not good looking woman was dependent on the husband for long time and like you said that should be a bank-client relationship. But that was not so. In fact the husband was devotional to her to the point of mental slavery just like in the first case. It was the same thing - woman was obnoxious, controlling basically jeena haram kar diya in the second case. Then the husband's financial circumstances changed. The not good looking woman kicked the husband out and kept the children. Husband worked in other city but still devotional to her/children. But the woman had become even More Not good looking from inside, her behavior became worse.
In both cases, me and the all relatives of the husbands in example 1, 2 have come to the same conclusion I came to.

Not good looking woman are also not good looking from inside too.

As you realize this is only my observation from what I have seen. Also I said it may apply to men too.
 
I too believe a person can marry anyone of his/her choice, be it Indian, American, African or from any other location/ethnicity. But believing a gori wont be commanding/demanding just because she is fair and good looking is totally unfair and unthoughtful. Had that been the case there would not have been such a high divorce rate in US( http://www.divorcerate.org/), and most of the divorced couple have both the partners good looking(say good at heart according to you)then why do they divorce???

You are again contradicting urself here, in an earlier post u said-" This jat guy can't get over the fact that his first wife was pretty and the present wife is ugly". If he can't get over the fact then he himself is providing fuel for suspicion and leading the miserable wife to live in constant fear of rejection, and her immediate reaction is not something due to ugly heart but insecurity. In last post u said he is "fully devoted to her", can a person be subservient and devoted when he CAN'T GET OVER THE FACT that she is not good looking right from the word go.

I said it will be a bank-client relationship if the person is choosing the partner totally on the basis of financial reason. Have only bad looking women kicked husbands out of home?? Hasn't a good looking Woman ever kicked her husband out??
You and ur relatives concluded on the basis of two cases/examples. Can anyone conclude a theory on the basis of two cases where there are millions available???
And your observation is purely personal choice and is respected. But it can't be accepted in general.
 
vikrantsiwag said:
I too believe a person can marry anyone of his/her choice, be it Indian, American, African or from any other location/ethnicity. But believing a gori wont be commanding/demanding just because she is fair and good looking is totally unfair and unthoughtful. Had that been the case there would not have been such a high divorce rate in US( http://www.divorcerate.org/), and most of the divorced couple have both the partners good looking(say good at heart according to you)then why do they divorce???

You are again contradicting urself here, in an earlier post u said-" This jat guy can't get over the fact that his first wife was pretty and the present wife is ugly". If he can't get over the fact then he himself is providing fuel for suspicion and leading the miserable wife to live in constant fear of rejection, and her immediate reaction is not something due to ugly heart but insecurity. In last post u said he is "fully devoted to her", can a person be subservient and devoted when he CAN'T GET OVER THE FACT that she is not good looking right from the word go.

I said it will be a bank-client relationship if the person is choosing the partner totally on the basis of financial reason. Have only bad looking women kicked husbands out of home?? Hasn't a good looking Woman ever kicked her husband out??
You and ur relatives concluded on the basis of two cases/examples. Can anyone conclude a theory on the basis of two cases where there are millions available???
And your observation is purely personal choice and is respected. But it can't be accepted in general.
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I think you clearly have some reading disability.
First they are not my relatives like you insist.
Second as stated in this forum 70% of women in India are having forced sex with their husbands. Are they in happy marriages? Obviously not. Atleast in West women separate when face with such situations.
Third you talk as if you know people concerned in those 2 situations personally. Obviously you don't. But that does not prevent you from making your own theories and creating facts about them.
It is useless to argue with someone like you.
 
Well, Thanx for the advice Aman Bhai, I'll get my eyes checked. They were the husband's relatives not urs.

Now you are failing here to provide any sound reasoning to support urself. You haven't yet provided any logical thinking and haven't replied my questions with solidarity. So I am not going to argue with you anymore as you don't want to understand anything. Aur jaisa aapne kaha-"you are not personally concerned with this", so all i can say is almost nobody is personally related to the thread they start and posts they reply, they don't do it just for any hoopla's sake but because they are somewhere concerned and being a human it is natural to react.
Aur ab mujhe ek kahawat yaad aa gayi.....

"Jitna mushkil hai oont ko scooter pe bithana, utna hi mushkil hai Aman bhai ko samjhana"

BTW, nothing personal Aman, stay happy n try thinking rationally. Peace................
 
vikrantsiwag said:
Well, Thanx for the advice Aman Bhai, I'll get my eyes checked. They were the husband's relatives not urs.

Now you are failing here to provide any sound reasoning to support urself. You haven't yet provided any logical thinking and haven't replied my questions with solidarity. So I am not going to argue with you anymore as you don't want to understand anything. Aur jaisa aapne kaha-"you are not personally concerned with this", so all i can say is almost nobody is personally related to the thread they start and posts they reply, they don't do it just for any hoopla's sake but because they are somewhere concerned and being a human it is natural to react.
Aur ab mujhe ek kahawat yaad aa gayi.....

"Jitna mushkil hai oont ko scooter pe bithana, utna hi mushkil hai Aman bhai ko samjhana"

BTW, nothing personal Aman, stay happy n try thinking rationally. Peace................
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The kahawat you gave suits you perfectly.
Wait, let me reason you. Perhaps you got good share of Not good looking woman in your life that you cook up facts about people you don't know. Angoor khattee hain for you if you know what I mean.
 
anilsinghd said:
Moderatos / Senior Members / Administrators :

Please provide the workflow as to how this would be achieved.

This is indeed very much needed. Please do the needful!

And also please remove all NAKLI JATS from the website!

As Ch.Ravinder Sura and his followers might not appreciate the presence of them here!

And yes , Only Desi types , Banduk chalaane waale should be left over here , please strictly ban those who do not meet the criterion :)
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Bhai anil ...eb nue ke agla bole hi nahi ke agla kataar jat s bhai ........nue te tham es choree ne bolan hi na doo .....yoooo katii kattar jat s ..........ar main esgelyaaa......


 
shweta123 said:
Ravinder do you have a Bank Account with some Jatu Bank ? :rolleyes:

Do you eat chappatis only if made by aata from a Jataa ki chakki :p

Do you watch News strictly by Jat correspondents :D

Do you use a Jat - made keyboard & PC to use Jatland ... oops i mean I dont think you know any other site other than this ..... :cool:

Do you walk on Jat made roads .... ;)
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What a humor u have i think u posted this reply in general talk

kitne admi aisa karte hai ki jatu bank & all .......matlab tum kya kehna chahte hoo aise hi kuch hi likhdete hooooo ,,jat made keybord &

..........what a mindset u have


god bless you



 
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