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Haan Bhai Sangwan, you sound like a Financial Engineer! What do you do for a living!

Phool , in Financial Engineer aalan ki bichaara ki biraan maati ho rahi sai :o....
IT aale hi badhiya sain ... :)
 
Bua aale..... mein fir wahi baat kahunga.... thodda soch samajh kar agar invest kiya jaaye ....toh itna bada jua bhi nahi hai..... timings and understanding of business of the company is very important for investing in shares bhai.....

Ebb yeh dekho.... chahe kitni hi mandi aayi ho.... telecom sector pe least asar pada hai.....so jiss ko telecom companies k fundamentals pata hain...aur jiss ne pehle invest kiya tha...woh safe hai.....




yooo juaa s ..............isme mat fasoooo ...jitne kamoge ustee faltuuu deke aaooge
 
mama ale khench ke le de t kam n manee itna na bera is saude ka ar na kade bera patana ................but yeh u are right if u guys knw about the company profile they u guyz can do trading ........

wish u luck

regrds
 
I have opened my demat acount today

Bua aale..... mein fir wahi baat kahunga.... thodda soch samajh kar agar invest kiya jaaye ....toh itna bada jua bhi nahi hai..... timings and understanding of business of the company is very important for investing in shares bhai.....

Ebb yeh dekho.... chahe kitni hi mandi aayi ho.... telecom sector pe least asar pada hai.....so jiss ko telecom companies k fundamentals pata hain...aur jiss ne pehle invest kiya tha...woh safe hai.....



Leel bhai, Today i have opened my demat account in Motilal oswal securities Ltd.

I am new in this field to bhai kuchh to bata ki kahan se shuruaat karoon. :confused:
 
Leel bhai, Today i have opened my demat account in Motilal oswal securities Ltd.

I am new in this field to bhai kuchh to bata ki kahan se shuruaat karoon. :confused:
JL ke aaj kal ke haalat dekh ke JL ne short kar do :D :D

kidding , wish u luck !
 
Leel bhai, Today i have opened my demat account in Motilal oswal securities Ltd.

I am new in this field to bhai kuchh to bata ki kahan se shuruaat karoon. :confused:

Bhai Ji.... I will suggest to go for Infy if you get at around 1150-1170. You can also think of ICICI if you get it aroound 360 or less... and HDFC bank @ around 870 or so..... I am also having long positions in these eqs.,,,

Bhai watch "Bechein ya rakhein" on Zee business everyday 08:00 am - 09:00 am....it is good program !

Er baaki Leel-2 ki advice bhi jama BHINN ki BHINN sei..
 
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Er baaki Leel-2 ki advice bhi jama BHINN ki BHINN sei..

isi baat pe ek aur advice :D

Khaaiyo matna manne ki ghana mathematics laga diya :D


bhaai dekho , JL pe jitne members sai regular aaale ar jinka activity level 50 % tai batti sai , yeh jin jin companiyaan mein kaam kare sain , un un ke naam note kar lo !!!

ar jai dimaag tai kaam lyo tai in saari companiyaan nai short kar do !! :D

ar jai dil tai lena ho to in saariyaan nai long kar lyo !!:rock


bhagwaan thaara bhala kare ! :D :rock:rock
 
Leel bhai, Today i have opened my demat account in Motilal oswal securities Ltd.

I am new in this field to bhai kuchh to bata ki kahan se shuruaat karoon. :confused:

Bhai main to kahoonga ki paise pe jam ke baith ja is time. Yaani ki kuchh mat khareed. Aise time pe shuruat ki aur haath jal gaye, to fir dubara himmat baandhne main mushkil hogi. Abhi market ek dum se kahin nahin bhaagi ja rahi. In fact, the down side risks are much higher right now. Globally to fight hai hi, India main bhi fiscal deficit tagda ho gaya hai aur upar se election hone waale hain. Yahan BSP ne 40 seat jeet li aur communists 60 le gaye to log 3rd front ki baat karne lagenge aur market main fir machega hahakaar. Better to sit tight on your cash right now. Aur fir bhi na ruka jaaye, to don't buy any company with significant export income (IT), or has anything to do with real estate/banking.
 
Bhai main to kahoonga ki paise pe jam ke baith ja is time.

Kapil , thoughts on Gold ?


Shorting gold and going long Oil is a good bet i guess!!!!

Yeah it is not a self hedge but my hunch says its gonna work !!

Cant be lieve gold crossing 1000 $ , we are very close to the bottom if not at it !


Commodity trader tai pooch ke bataaiye ki gold ka key hone wala sai :D
 
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Kapil , thoughts on Gold ?


Shorting gold and going long Oil is a good bet i guess!!!!

Yeah it is not a self hedge but my hunch says its gonna work !!

Cant be lieve gold crossing 1000 $ , we are very close to the bottom if not at it !

Yaar, gold has overshot...but i won't really short it. It is an inflation hedge. As govts. indulge in dropping money from helicopters, the expectations of future inflation would increase. And quite a lot of money would get into gold to hedge against inflation. Then there are perennial gold hungry countries like India where the demand is not necessarily elastic (people would buy it for marriages, etc. irrespective of the price). But yeah, oil can be a good medium to long term bet at these levels.
 
Yaar, gold has overshot...but i won't really short it. It is an inflation hedge. As govts. indulge in dropping money from helicopters, the expectations of future inflation would increase. And quite a lot of money would get into gold to hedge against inflation. Then there are perennial gold hungry countries like India where the demand is not necessarily elastic (people would buy it for marriages, etc. irrespective of the price). But yeah, oil can be a good medium to long term bet at these levels.


can you explain how gold is an inflation hedge?

it does not retunr anything ... i am a novice in fiannce :D
 
can you explain how gold is an inflation hedge?

it does not retunr anything ... i am a novice in fiannce :D

Actually, you made me find this out :D...It is a common perception and I just believed it. It is quite an entrenched belief amongst various practitioners of finance- I know of a few traders who hold this strong view. But now after I have done some work, let me modify the statement. It is a crisis hedge and not an inflation hedge. Historically, there was the gold standard- where people pegged their currencies to gold. It has the safe haven status as people believe in its value and hence if you want to preserve your wealth and are scared about holding paper currencies which are tied to the fates of various countries' balance sheets, politics and policies, then you can feel safe with gold.

But it is NOT an inflation hedge. See this article.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2007/02/is-gold-inflation-hedge.html

It basically says that in last 20 years, money supply (which represents inflation) has gone up by 207% while gold has gone up in USD terms by 58%. And argues that gold has actually performed much better relatively in disinflationary environments. Overall, they argue that it is a crisis hedge.

Then this one.
http://inflationdata.com/inflation/inflation_rate/gold_inflation.asp

Gives the entire history of gold's dalliances with finance. How it performs the best during crises when the flight to safety happens (Is happening with USD as well, but whether USD can sustain it is a very big question).

Finally, there is technical paper.
http://www.staff.stir.ac.uk/e.j.levin/gold2002.pdf

This has emprical as well as theoretical arguments. Didn't bother to read it all. It looks at the last 100 year data, and well comes up with the conclusion that over such a long period- gold IS an inflation hedge. But it too argues that from short/medium term perspective (Read 30 yrs!), the volatility in gold prices makes it an ineffective hedge.

Who cares about 100 years- as Keynes said, in the long run we are all dead :D...But yeah, I won't short gold now for entirely different reasons, it is a crisis hedge!!
 
Actually, you made me find this out :D...It is a common perception and I just believed it. It is quite an entrenched belief amongst various practitioners of finance- I know of a few traders who hold this strong view. But now after I have done some work, let me modify the statement. It is a crisis hedge and not an inflation hedge. Historically, there was the gold standard- where people pegged their currencies to gold. It has the safe haven status as people believe in its value and hence if you want to preserve your wealth and are scared about holding paper currencies which are tied to the fates of various countries' balance sheets, politics and policies, then you can feel safe with gold.

But it is NOT an inflation hedge. See this article.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2007/02/is-gold-inflation-hedge.html

It basically says that in last 20 years, money supply (which represents inflation) has gone up by 207% while gold has gone up in USD terms by 58%. And argues that gold has actually performed much better relatively in disinflationary environments. Overall, they argue that it is a crisis hedge.

Then this one.
http://inflationdata.com/inflation/inflation_rate/gold_inflation.asp

Gives the entire history of gold's dalliances with finance. How it performs the best during crises when the flight to safety happens (Is happening with USD as well, but whether USD can sustain it is a very big question).

Finally, there is technical paper.
http://www.staff.stir.ac.uk/e.j.levin/gold2002.pdf

This has emprical as well as theoretical arguments. Didn't bother to read it all. It looks at the last 100 year data, and well comes up with the conclusion that over such a long period- gold IS an inflation hedge. But it too argues that from short/medium term perspective (Read 30 yrs!), the volatility in gold prices makes it an ineffective hedge.

Who cares about 100 years- as Keynes said, in the long run we are all dead :D...But yeah, I won't short gold now for entirely different reasons, it is a crisis hedge!!

I will read the docs tomorrow , but i completely agree that it is a crisis hedge , it is a hedge agaisnt destruction of money !!!

:)
 
Bhai main to kahoonga ki paise pe jam ke baith ja is time. Yaani ki kuchh mat khareed. Aise time pe shuruat ki aur haath jal gaye, to fir dubara himmat baandhne main mushkil hogi. Abhi market ek dum se kahin nahin bhaagi ja rahi. In fact, the down side risks are much higher right now. Globally to fight hai hi, India main bhi fiscal deficit tagda ho gaya hai aur upar se election hone waale hain. Yahan BSP ne 40 seat jeet li aur communists 60 le gaye to log 3rd front ki baat karne lagenge aur market main fir machega hahakaar. Better to sit tight on your cash right now. Aur fir bhi na ruka jaaye, to don't buy any company with significant export income (IT), or has anything to do with real estate/banking.



That's why i have asked ki election hi ho lene do jibhi kuchh dekha jaaga. kade iste tale ja ke pade ya share market election ke baad.
 
Bhai Ji.... I will suggest to go for Infy if you get at around 1150-1170. You can also think of ICICI if you get it aroound 360 or less... and HDFC bank @ around 870 or so..... I am also having long positions in these eqs.,,,

Bhai watch "Bechein ya rakhein" on Zee business everyday 08:00 am - 09:00 am....it is good program !

Er baaki Leel-2 ki advice bhi jama BHINN ki BHINN sei..


Theek bhai, is Zee business ku bhi dekhna shuru karta hoon kal te hi..... :)
 
I will read the docs tomorrow , but i completely agree that it is a crisis hedge , it is a hedge agaisnt destruction of money !!!

:)


Gave it a thought and came with the intuitive conclusion. Gold as a resource can at best stay , it is kind of non productive so to say !
So to me it is like a preservation scheme and product rather than an attacking strategy.

When you know that value is gonna be destruct ed ( asset price d eflation will be rampant in other words ) , gold is your bet! :)

In this market scenario , that is in play for sure!

:)
 
Gave it a thought and came with the intuitive conclusion. Gold as a resource can at best stay , it is kind of non productive so to say !
So to me it is like a preservation scheme and product rather than an attacking strategy.

When you know that value is gonna be destruct ed ( asset price d eflation will be rampant in other words ) , gold is your bet! :)

In this market scenario , that is in play for sure!

:)

Ladke, maine poori 2 ghante ki research ki thi post karne se pehle...aur tune sed-desi intuitive conclusion kaadh di....:D

Maka kimme consultancy fee hi bhej de....special price for you...100 Euro per hour...:D
 
Ladke, maine poori 2 ghante ki research ki thi post karne se pehle...aur tune sed-desi intuitive conclusion kaadh di....:D

Maka kimme consultancy fee hi bhej de....special price for you...100 Euro per hour...:D


ibb ismein research karan ki jaroorat hi na thi ....


gold as an inflation hedge ??? is counter intuitive , when inflation is there , even money gets destructed as PP gets reduced. gold to waise bhi price mein kam ho jaaga ... :D

galt consultaion karan ki ulti fine pay karo , aapke liye special price , sirf 5 euro ek galti key :D recession ka jamana sai ... kam hi theak sain :D
 
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