It happens only in......AMERICA!!!

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This thread is almost a parallel to the one on ABCD's, but not quite (of course therefore a new title and thread) You guys will love this one......
it makes for some very interesting discussion:

....did you people see what is happening here in the US of America right now, eh? The president himself pardoning an aide sentenced to prison!!?!!:rolleyes:...There ya go- that's Happy 4th of July Independence day for you!!!

Lewis "Scooter" Libby (former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney) was awarded a 2 1/2-year prison term in the CIA leak case, by a federal appeals panel, no less!!! [By the way he is also supposed to be the highest-ranking White House official ordered to prison since the Iran-Contra affair.]

But guess what- President Bush goes ahead and spares this former White House aide Mr. Lewis Libby from this 2 1/2-year prison term this last Monday itself, issuing an order that commutes his sentence.

A lil' background- what had this guy done? This dude Libby was convicted in March of this year of lying and obstructing during the very serious investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative's (a certain agent Valerie Plame) identity!!!
[Serious enough, I dunno; and you can always make your own judgements....apparently the accusations were about putting things at risk, etc. etc...but the point is- this guy Libby was actually duly and formally sentenced!] ... and then lo and behold the President himself steps in and ..... pooooshh! Free!!!...No worries, you are free to go and mess up somewhere else! Amazing, eh?

I mean has anyone..anyone seen something like this done by anyone in India? Imagine...a guy gets accused of an offence, faces trial, is proved guilty and a politician says "No, no too severe...this should not be allowed! (I know the courts have ruled a sentence, but) Please let him off"?

I mean at least this kind of stuff never happens in India!!!
And really then to think that our favourite passtime really is blaming our leaders for nepotism, protection of criminals, genocide, bribery, corruption etc. etc...tsk tsk...........:rolleyes:
 
Somebody should send Bush and Cheney to jail !! Bush is such an idiot - Cheney is just pure evil.
En sabke lath marwa hon se - nanga karke!!
People like laloo, mayawati, prakash karat from cpi also need their as* whipped
 
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shailendra said:
I mean at least this kind of stuff never happens in India!!!
And really then to think that our favourite passtime really is blaming our leaders for nepotism, protection of criminals, genocide, bribery, corruption etc. etc...tsk tsk...........:rolleyes:
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Mere bhai Shailender ... ya baat na hai ... its good that we are having nice throughts and feelings about India ... but I wish to share with all the fellow members that in India even ... and specially this congress govt is folding the laws and manuplating things to all extent for the votes .... its not long ego that the case of parliament accused Mohd. Afzal .... petition occurs ... .kindly all read below the mercy petition that this guy made to president ...

http://www.revolutionarydemocracy.org/rdv13n1/petition.htm

It is still pending .... what really happened was that Kapil sibbal the mantri bharat sarkar has fought the case of these ... now they sent this petition to president ... president ka sans ghot diya ... this went to the table of home minister ... and then to the kanoon minister ... means indirectly it is pending at the bench of the advocate who is fighting their case and defending them .... (this is all update that I had few months back ... if something happened in this further fellow members please put light on it)

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020713/nation.htm#12
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/search/label/India

er eeb inka president aa jyaga to mene lage hai ye gande aadmi is terrorist ne nue jan denge ....

What will you all say about this thing?
 
Well! The day I saw the broad grin on Libby's face when he was indicted, I knew that this guy had been assured immunity behind closed doors. Bush-Cheney asked him to take the fall in order to bring closure to this CIA-leak case, and assured him that nothing will ever happen to him.

The left-wing media in America is so naive that they still dont get it. They were literally having wet-dreams the day US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald opened an investigation into the CIA-leak case. As early as this morning I was listening to Ed Schutlz on Air America. Ofcourse he was upset, but he was still not being able to figure out that the Karl Rove pulled the cotton over their eyes once again.

In America atleast some investigation happened. In India, forget about an investigation, people keep getting elected again and again after being caught with all the evidence for the scandal they pulled. If they end up in jail briefly, they contest elections from the prison. Its even more shameful in India.
 
Clinton got off for lying to grand jury, and so did Libby. This is just a 'big deal' made by left wing media over nothing. Valerie Plane was never a CIA covert operative, and there was never a 'crime' committed. I can think of thousands of reason for criticizing the Bush administration, but I could care less about this politically manufactured concern.
 
shailendra said:
I mean has anyone..anyone seen something like this done by anyone in India? Imagine...a guy gets accused of an offence, faces trial, is proved guilty and a politician says "No, no too severe...this should not be allowed! (I know the courts have ruled a sentence, but) Please let him off"?

I mean at least this kind of stuff never happens in India!!!
And really then to think that our favourite passtime really is blaming our leaders for nepotism, protection of criminals, genocide, bribery, corruption etc. etc...tsk tsk...........:rolleyes:
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Brother all I can say is that you need to increase your knowledge about India!
 
sampuran said:
Brother all I can say is that you need to increase your knowledge about India!
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Oh really? I wonder if you could quote one (any) high-profile political hearing where the Courts ACTUALLY did end up passing a judgement of outright criminal offence (against the Nation itself) onto some high-profile minister that was then duly overturned in plain view of everyone by someone as high up as the President or Prime-minister himself???...

Ah hah, got you thinking there now, didn't I silly boy?...

And if you can't think of one; I advise you to please start broadening your own knowledge about the Country where you were born and where it is quite easy to be blind-sighted with the 'uff yeh gandee politics' kinda smoke screens all the time...and never really see the light of day ever in your lifetime! ;) No pun intended!
 
Shailendra, perhaps u r nt aware of political marsh here. do u kno shibu soern, even after being proven guilty in a murder case, still enoys the d same political podium and amny other are allowed 2 fight elections after a long criminal history?

I wud say if US is worse thn indai is worse thn worst. illeterate ppl also bcum minister here and it can hapen only in india
 
This Happens Only In America

One person in Illinois filed a civil law suit against the lover of his wife seeking compensation for 'STEALING him of his wife's affection;. The section 5.4 of Illinois law puts a monetrary value on wife. Finally the husband got $4802.87 as compensation from that person

Illinois is one of only nine states that still allow "alienation-of-affection" lawsuits (sometimes called "heart balm torts"). Though rare, such suits rely on statutes premised "on the belief that a wife was the property of her husband. Therefore, when a woman was emotionally or sexually involved with another man, she was considered to have been stolen." With all due respect to the multitude of established and aspiring mail order brides, most women these days do not view their marriage as a transfer of property.


the jury found that Blinov owed Arthur Friedman reparations for the loss of his wife's love, though there was some dispute over its valuation. Apparently many jurors had thought $17.20, or the amount they earned for one day of jury duty, was an appropriate amount. Not surprisingly, Natalie Friedman found this process to be "humiliating." Ten years of marriage worth one day of jury duty? Ouch! What's a lifetime of devotion go for?
 
This does not happen ONLY in America

ranvirsingh said:
One person in Illinois filed a civil law suit against the lover of his wife seeking compensation for 'STEALING him of his wife's affection;. The section 5.4 of Illinois law puts a monetrary value on wife. Finally the husband got $4802.87 as compensation from that person

Illinois is one of only nine states that still allow "alienation-of-affection" lawsuits (sometimes called "heart balm torts"). Though rare, such suits rely on statutes premised "on the belief that a wife was the property of her husband. Therefore, when a woman was emotionally or sexually involved with another man, she was considered to have been stolen." With all due respect to the multitude of established and aspiring mail order brides, most women these days do not view their marriage as a transfer of property.


the jury found that Blinov owed Arthur Friedman reparations for the loss of his wife's love, though there was some dispute over its valuation. Apparently many jurors had thought $17.20, or the amount they earned for one day of jury duty, was an appropriate amount. Not surprisingly, Natalie Friedman found this process to be "humiliating." Ten years of marriage worth one day of jury duty? Ouch! What's a lifetime of devotion go for?
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In millitary law of India(Which is still same as British army law only) there is a section in which a officer can be charged under Stealing brother officer's wife affection.
 
captmanjeet said:
In millitary law of India(Which is still same as British army law only) there is a section in which a officer can be charged under Stealing brother officer's wife affection.
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But is there any monetary value linked to that? I mean, can the affected officer file for monatary compensation? Disciplinary action is acceptable.
 
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shailendra said:
Oh really? I wonder if you could quote one (any) high-profile political hearing where the Courts ACTUALLY did end up passing a judgement of outright criminal offence (against the Nation itself) onto some high-profile minister that was then duly overturned in plain view of everyone by someone as high up as the President or Prime-minister himself???...

Ah hah, got you thinking there now, didn't I silly boy?...

And if you can't think of one; I advise you to please start broadening your own knowledge about the Country where you were born and where it is quite easy to be blind-sighted with the 'uff yeh gandee politics' kinda smoke screens all the time...and never really see the light of day ever in your lifetime! ;) No pun intended!
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Dear Shailendra Ji,

Our politicians never let the things go out of their hands to reach that stage. They ensure there is no evidence to prove the guilt, and if there is one, then their is no witness. Just see the Taj Corridor case. Lack of evidence is the "order of the day".

In India, the only case I remember where a high level politician (Prime Minister) was found guilty was the case of Mr. Narsimharao and Mrs. Indira Gandhi. But this happened only when both of them were out of power. In power it would have never happened.

If Mr. Libby was out of power, then probably he would have definitely visited the jail as a tenant.
 
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