Jaat aryan's hai ya nahi???????

[sandeepdahiya47]

I have read an article of Dr.Rajendra Kumar, Proffessor and a prominent member of Maharaja Surajmal Sansthan, where he focused on the point whethere “JAAT’S Are ARYANS Or Not”, but I haven’t found any conclusion of the article so the question still remains the same.
Some person write in an article that “JAATS SHUDH ARYANS HAIN” aur Mahabharatkaal se pehle ke Raha Dushyant ki santaan hain.
Some other wrote in his article that “ Germany ke Itihaas me likha hai ki Hitler Aryans ke alawa sabse nafrat karta tha aur uska bas chalta to duniya se an-aryans aur angrezo ko mita deta. Hitler ko JAATO se vishesh prem tha aur 2nd world war me usne angrezo ki sena me samil jaato ko sandesh bheja tha ki yadi wo Germany . ka sath de to India ko Azad karke JATLAND bna diya jaega. Isliye azad hind fauz me sabse jyada jaat samil ho gaye. Aur isiliye Hindustan ke leaders ne angrezo ke sath milkar Subhash Chandra Bose ko gayab karwa diya ya marwa diya kyunki Subhash Chandra bose bhi Aryans they.



Here at Jatland, I am requesting all members to kindly focus on it and submit your views to clarify the Myth.

 

[sandeepdahiya47]

lagta hai kuch knowledgeable baat btane me mhare jaat bhai sankoch kare hain.....politics pe to kitni bhi baat karwa lo....saare ek te ek aage paawen.....

 

[hoodarajesh]

lagta hai kuch knowledgeable baat btane me mhare jaat bhai sankoch kare hain.....politics pe to kitni bhi baat karwa lo....saare ek te ek aage paawen.....

नही जाट आर्य नही थे . और नै है . आर्य कोई जाती विशेष
नही थे . आर्य बस एक पंथ चलाया था .
जैसे आज सचा डेरा , व्यास डेरा राधास्वामी आदि . जिसका मन
चाहे वो इनके पंथ पर चले . पर इनकी सदस्यता लेने के बाद
भी किसी की जाती पर कोई फर्क नही पड़ता . हाँ पहले बहुत से
जाटो ने आर्य पंथ को अपनाया था . पर वो जाट ही रहे . जाट और
राजपूतो की दितीय युद्घ में बहुत धाक थी क्योंकि ये दो जातिया ही
उस समय सेना में सबसे ज्यादा होती थी . खुद हिटलर ने बहुत से
जाटो को जो अंग्रेज यहाँ से पानी के जहाज से गुलाम बनाकर ले
गए थे छुड़वाकर अपनी सेना में जगह दी थी . हिटलर खुद एक जाबांज
और मर्द सख्सियत था . और जाबांजो की कद्र करता था .

 

[anil_rathee]

JAT are aryans

Sandeep bhai,
I appreciate that you are much concered abt ur roots.
I know u are well educated guy so please do a simple search on google and you will find your answer. BTW this topic has been discussed many times on this forum and this is a proven fact that JATS are true ARYANS.

Please follow this link to know more abt the origin of Jats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Jat_people

I hope this will clear your doubts. Anyway if you still have doubts please come back here on the forum.
I will happily try to clarify those

thanks

 

[amans]

No, jats are not pure aryans. They are a mixed race people just like the rest of Indians but they may be mixed less then most of other Indians. By the way, Dahiya is coming from Dahae which is persian name for robbers. According to ancient persian sources, Dahae was tribe that used to come and attack persians living in villages.

 

[aryasatyadev]

Rajesh bhai, ya kitt te nai baat li aaya......
who says that Arya is a panth....... my dear brother... Arya littraly means shuddh manushya..... or the people who dosn't practice any vice.... so aryans were always there and they were mentioned in Vedas also....
It was aryasamaj which was founded by Maharishi Dayanand Saraswati, which means samaj of arya people..... so please don't confuse and if you have any confusion then read SatyarthPrakash...
Secondly, Punjab (when there was no Haryana) was the fort of Aryasamaj, and hence most of the Jats and Banias and Punjabis are it's followers.....

And Historically..... Indian subcontinent is being inhabited by two races one is Aryans (Northern & NW) and second are Dravidians (Southern)... if you have any doubt on it then please go through Atharv Ved....

नही जाट आर्य नही थे . और नै है . आर्य कोई जाती विशेष
नही थे . आर्य बस एक पंथ चलाया था .
जैसे आज सचा डेरा , व्यास डेरा राधास्वामी आदि . जिसका मन
चाहे वो इनके पंथ पर चले . पर इनकी सदस्यता लेने के बाद
भी किसी की जाती पर कोई फर्क नही पड़ता . हाँ पहले बहुत से
जाटो ने आर्य पंथ को अपनाया था . पर वो जाट ही रहे . जाट और
राजपूतो की दितीय युद्घ में बहुत धाक थी क्योंकि ये दो जातिया ही
उस समय सेना में सबसे ज्यादा होती थी . खुद हिटलर ने बहुत से
जाटो को जो अंग्रेज यहाँ से पानी के जहाज से गुलाम बनाकर ले
गए थे छुड़वाकर अपनी सेना में जगह दी थी . हिटलर खुद एक जाबांज
और मर्द सख्सियत था . और जाबांजो की कद्र करता था .

 

[aryasatyadev]

Aman it is no good to see our own history through western eyes.... and refrain from maligning some Gotras.... if you some doubt you can visit Haridwar or consult your Bhaat who may tell you about your lineage and of other gotras also...... and mind it thier Pothi and records are valid legal documents

No, jats are not pure aryans. They are a mixed race people just like the rest of Indians but they may be mixed less then most of other Indians. By the way, Dahiya is coming from Dahae which is persian name for robbers. According to ancient persian sources, Dahae was tribe that used to come and attack persians living in villages.

 

[amans]

Aman it is no good to see our own history through western eyes.... and refrain from maligning some Gotras.... if you some doubt you can visit Haridwar or consult your Bhaat who may tell you about your lineage and of other gotras also...... and mind it thier Pothi and records are valid legal documents

No one is saying bad about anyone here. I don't need to argue with you. Arguing won't change the facts. Jats are mixed people just like all other people of India but they seem to be less mixed then most others. And about Dahae that is coming from ancient Persian history sources themselves not Western sources. There is no conspiracy here to malign anyone. Get out of this habit of calling everything some sort of conspiracy.

 

[aryasatyadev]

Dear Aman, I am not putting anything for the sake of arguement, but dear haven't you heard that Dahiyas are direct descendents of Maharishi Dadhichi........
I am sort of curious and wanna correct my facts.... the above statement was by James Todd......
No personnel offence intended.... and here we are discussing the matter not fighting with one another.... so if you think, you can ignore this post...

 

[ravichaudhary]

No one is saying bad about anyone here. I don't need to argue with you. Arguing won't change the facts. Jats are mixed people just like all other people of India but they seem to be less mixed then most others. And about Dahae that is coming from ancient Persian history sources themselves not Western sources. There is no conspiracy here to malign anyone. Get out of this habit of calling everything some sort of conspiracy.

Dear Amans Hooda

Do please slow down.

If you referencing Persian Sources, do please tell what Persian sources you are referring to.

Do please try and distinguish between your opinion and the facts at hand.

Facts do change. New facts come to light.


This site is for discussion and argument.If you participate here, expect argument. Expect others not to agree with you.


You are welcome to your opinion.

Do please try and not be accusatory of others.Do please try and soften your tone

This section is not for harshness.

Again back to your conclusion

Please show us, how the Dahiyas of current Haryana are descendants of the "Dahae" of Persia?

We will all benefit

Ravi Chaudhary
Moderator

 

[sandeepdahiya47]

Thanks Rathi bhai....

 

[sandeepdahiya47]

dear Aman, do u have any proof that Jats are not pure Aryans.....becoz we have to show some proof regarding the point we are putting....

 

[narenderkharb]

And Historically..... Indian subcontinent is being inhabited by two races one is Aryans (Northern & NW) and second are Dravidians (Southern)... if you have any doubt on it then please go through Atharv Ved....

What does ATHARV VED say about Aryan and Dravidian race ????

 

[narenderkharb]

dear haven't you heard that Dahiyas are direct descendents of Maharishi Dadhichi........

Almost a BS .

There is no connection between Dahiya and Maharishi Dadichi .

 

[deepakchoudhry]

I have read an article of Dr.Rajendra Kumar, Proffessor and a prominent member of Maharaja Surajmal Sansthan, where he focused on the point whethere “JAAT’S Are ARYANS Or Not”, but I haven’t found any conclusion of the article so the question still remains the same.
Some person write in an article that “JAATS SHUDH ARYANS HAIN” aur Mahabharatkaal se pehle ke Raha Dushyant ki santaan hain.
Some other wrote in his article that “ Germany ke Itihaas me likha hai ki Hitler Aryans ke alawa sabse nafrat karta tha aur uska bas chalta to duniya se an-aryans aur angrezo ko mita deta. Hitler ko JAATO se vishesh prem tha aur 2nd world war me usne angrezo ki sena me samil jaato ko sandesh bheja tha ki yadi wo Germany . ka sath de to India ko Azad karke JATLAND bna diya jaega. Isliye azad hind fauz me sabse jyada jaat samil ho gaye. Aur isiliye Hindustan ke leaders ne angrezo ke sath milkar Subhash Chandra Bose ko gayab karwa diya ya marwa diya kyunki Subhash Chandra bose bhi Aryans they.



Here at Jatland, I am requesting all members to kindly focus on it and submit your views to clarify the Myth.

These questions are to satisfy ego and nothing else.

Let's not fool ourselves.

It does not matter who you were and where you came from but who you are today and where you are going.

Sure, learn from the past but then be willing to accept all the good and the bad which comes with it.

All I can say if the past was so good, why the present is so bad.

Baki sab bacchon ki kahaaniyan hai, don't dwell on them too much.

 

[sandeepdahiya47]

Dear Deepak, Its not about to make fool ourselves. I post this thread just to get accurate information abt our past and to clear my doubts regarding what i information i got.....Please read the thread once again with patience....
And to make it clear to you that we are very very far good in our present position yet the way to success doesn't end here.....so future will also be bright if we will work with full efforts in right direction and that what we all r doing...............

These questions are to satisfy ego and nothing else.

Let's not fool ourselves.

It does not matter who you were and where you came from but who you are today and where you are going.

Sure, learn from the past but then be willing to accept all the good and the bad which comes with it.

All I can say if the past was so good, why the present is so bad.

Baki sab bacchon ki kahaaniyan hai, don't dwell on them too much.

 

[gaganjat]

nue tai kisi jamane mai sare admi bandar the ar kuch tai ibb bhi sai.

ib us jamane ki baat is jamane mai phit konya bathti bhai.

ib tai jo ibb dikkhe sai ohe sach sai , haam sai Jaat hamne nhi bera Aryan sai ak or kimme par sai haam sabte kasoote

JAI JAT , UTHA DE RAM KI KHAT !

 

[sandeepdahiya47]

aapki baat sahi hai bhai ki us jamane ki baat is jamane me fit nahi baiththi....lekin mere bhai if u just have a look at the thread...it was to know something abt our past.....thats all.....
ofcourse hum sabte kasutey sain.....cheers.........:rock:rock

nue tai kisi jamane mai sare admi bandar the ar kuch tai ibb bhi sai.

ib us jamane ki baat is jamane mai phit konya bathti bhai.

ib tai jo ibb dikkhe sai ohe sach sai , haam sai Jaat hamne nhi bera Aryan sai ak or kimme par sai haam sabte kasoote

JAI JAT , UTHA DE RAM KI KHAT !