JAT and Politics

[rajeshrathee]

respected elders,

how u people r planning 2 keep political element,who only want their image and hold by becoming a part of these organisations, out of this proposed meet. I had in past witnessed many such events which were marred by ego clash and efforts to grab centre stage by these so called "Leaders".

Don't u think that an organisation like a NGO type should b started like our elders in abroad arrange to sent job work, medical transcription, call centres etc and we start that here where only JATS , even from rural set up b employed.

with regards
rajesh

 

[uday]

Good Idea........

respected elders,

Don't u think that an organisation like a NGO type should b started like our elders in abroad arrange to sent job work, medical transcription, call centres etc and we start that here where only JATS , even from rural set up b employed.

with regards
rajesh

 

[mukeshkumar007]

Thank you Mr. sejwallji. You have posted a very nice and interesting topic.

But before making any organization I would like to ask one thing to all of you that there are many JAT organizations in our society such as JAT MAHA SABA, JAT SABA so on so. One aim behind to organized these organizations that was to unite JAT society. But after a long journey all of these are organization could not take all the JAT under one flag. Why they could not be able to remove many evils from our society such as dowry system, MARTU BOJ, GUNGAT PARTHA so on so.
We should find out the reasons behind their failure before making any kind of organization.
I will put up my views after your ideas.
In my views by the individual revaluation we can make our society better then the organizational effort.

 

[rajeshrathee]

nothing can be done with empty stomach. Secondly there is hell of difference in the approach of an educated and uneducated person. I think a samaj can not be united unless and until the basic needs/necessaties are not fulfilled. Financial independence is the best way to make a person to think beyond his personal environment to things like jat samaj etc. Thats the reason why i think if v r able to make our samaj financially independent then only v can think of things like unity etc.

The reason behind the things that there are many jat associations is that most of these are initailly................................................................i don't want to comment on it.
rajesh

 

[raj2rif]

Dear MR. Rajesh,

And how we do that?? Making Samaj Financial Independent.

The problem with most of us is, that we try and find more faults with things then to evaluate them analytically. Not that there is any thing wrong in finding faults in the things, but then one must suggest remedies as well.

I agree with you that nothing can be done with "Empty Stomach" so how do we fill the stomach? Getting the right price to our farmer brothers for their products could be one such thing and that is what I had suggested as one of the task these associations are to perform.

I am not for keeping these institutions as not for profit organizations also, because these associations can also function better if they themselves are financially independent. The political aspect also needs to be considered to fight your way through the system, which will oppose each and every noble step that we will take, for it will be detrimental to some one's interests.

It will be a nice idea to come out with some more suggestions. Just because some thing had not functioned or lost its way, does not mean that we discourage future generations to start some thing. Getting the new ideas of variety of subjects I guess is one of the purpose of community websites.

nothing can be done with empty stomach. Secondly there is hell of difference in the approach of an educated and uneducated person. I think a samaj can not be united unless and until the basic needs/necessaties are not fulfilled. Financial independence is the best way to make a person to think beyond his personal environment to things like jat samaj etc. Thats the reason why i think if v r able to make our samaj financially independent then only v can think of things like unity etc.

The reason behind the things that there are many jat associations is that most of these are initailly................................................................i don't want to comment on it.
rajesh

 

[devdahiya]

Why Stop Discussing Abruptly

my dear mukesh,sumnendu,COL virender SIR, Dharampal singh ji and rajendra jee,

TO ME YOU ALL SOUND WELL MEANING PEOPLE,WHO HAVE the JAZBA for jat kaum and that is what is most important.I am so sad to see this thought process ending abruptly.Problem is WHO WILL BELL THE CAT? AKELA CHANNA TO BHAADD NAHHIN PHODD SAKTA,PER HAAN THODDE BAHHUT IKKATTHHE HO KAR JAROOR YE KAAM KAR SAKTE HEIN. Issmmein sabse baddi samasyya mein jo dekh raha huun wo he....TO FIND ATLEAST 10 EDUCATED JATS WITH THE FOLLOWING QUALIFICATIONS:

1]THEY should be absolutely selfless.
2] THEY can spare 24 hours for this great cause[ Please dont say it is not possible,it is possible with a jazba and such complicated issues need sacrifice of some MORTALS]

3] This team should have a resolve of steel as they will face problems from within and outside and at times will be accused of selfish,interior motives from our brotherns only[kamjjor aadmmi ke bass ki baat nhin he ye]

4] They should serve the community with smile,even while they find the odds against them[They should talk less and act more]....BINNA WAZEH AUR KARRANN KE BEIJJATTI SEHNNE KE LIYE TEYYAR REHNA PDEGGA AR HANSSTE REHNNA PDEGGA.

5] start from a smaller area first with complete concentration for optimum results and let the people see for themselves and let it act as a catalyst.

6] They should not be hungry of appreciation and publicity....HUMILITY and FORBEARING attitude will do the trick.

7] Out of these 10,one should be the head and rest of them advisors[the word of the head should be a gospel's truth]...EGOS HAVE TO BE KEPT ASIDE.

8] They should be ready for a complete personal sacrifice for the OVERALL GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY and they should never seek rewards.

9] Setbacks should not de-motivate them[their determination should be an oath of god.

10] They should feel blessed if they are sacrificed for this great cause ANY TIME ENROUTE.....Illiteracy is the biggest drawback and this enemy has to be killed first...ROOT CAUSE OF ALL OTHER ILLS.



ANY MEMBER WITH THESE QUALIFICATIONS AND OFCOURSE WILLINGNESS CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE FORUM AND TO ME AND I WILL TRY SHOW THE WAY...........BECAUSE I AM READY WITH ALL 10 QUALIFICATIONS AND yes.....VERY WILLING TO SACRIFICE FOR THE CAUSE..............................ANY TAKERS......................................??????

 

[raj2rif]

Dear Mr. Sumendu Ji,

I will definitely try and do my best in whatever way I can help this movement. My sincere request to you would be, that if you want this organization to be a long lasting and politically viable force, then don't restrict it to one particular community. It may be easy to carry on with one community, but then it will never go and would be more controversial then acceptable. A larger perspective may be difficult to start with but will be more acceptable, long lasting and powerful. May be you don't name your publication as a monthly magzine for Jats. Maharaja Surajmal ruled every one in his kingdom, whether Jats or any one else. Kindly consider taking all along with your organization. This is my suggestion, kindly discuss it with your team and do let me know their views on it.