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invading history channel is 2 easy for n e JAT. Where he has only one specific quality to worship his ancestors. And his ancestor was also equally concerned about his offspring. Jat lived 3D life. Hence he is alive till today in this most fertile land of the world n there too as the most important racial element in a land that stretches from Indus in the west to Ganges n Chambal in the east.
 
I'm sick of watching history channel where only mongols/goths/vikings/huns are invading history channel.

used 2 b one lft. general KK Singh who told me that Bombay gazetteer mentions the jats as the most dreaded sea pirates. Have u seen the an english movie "Water World"

so think of vikings also, whether they were Jats or learnt n e thing from them.

however England n other europeans learnt a lot from them.

plz see n tell me tomorrow how Jats conquered England about 1500 yrs back?

DO U KNOW THAT?
:)
 
Hi Tewatia ji,

Thanks for your replies...

I am also from Najibabad(Bijnore).....It is also a historical city founded by "Najibudolla"



I always used to search about "Thakrann" ans also searched the word "TOKHAR/tokharistan". But i did not find anything useful.

As you said "Thakran, the thakars/takhars/takkars are good enough to invade history channel run by Nat Geo Society."

How can i get some useful info about "Thakrann"?

You also wrote "plz see n tell me tomorrow how Jats conquered England about 1500 yrs back?"

I really dont know it

So will you tell me everything in detail?

i will be very thankful to u :) :)

I will be waiting for your reply
 
try for ghazi mallik also whether he was jat? c my tread the "tughlaks n jats" if not in near past/future may be in distant one?:)
 
but y u hesitate to invade history channel?
do it
its just a click away
DO IT
 
FOR englands conquests of jats plz c my thread "roots of the jats in the world"
 
<TABLE height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="94%">Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms

Saxons & Jutes of Southern England




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<TABLE height=19 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width=751 background=../Images/HistoryBackgroundTexture.jpg border=1><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=749 colSpan=4 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif][/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=749 colSpan=4 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif][/FONT][FONT=Arial, serif]THE CANTWARE (KENT)[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, serif]Founded in AD 450 (the calculations for The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle were, at 449, one year out), this was the very earliest of the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms. Made up of a mixture of Germanic Jutes and Celtic Britons, the Jutes were originally used as mercenaries by the controlling British forces. Like most of the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms, later Kentish folk descended from an equal mixture of both races, Briton and Jute, since the invaders were never numerous enough to entirely displace the general population of Britons. The name Kent is the bastardised Jutish version of the original Romano-British Cantiaci / Cantii (Post-Roman Ceint), and means Men of Kent.
[FONT=Arial, serif]For the first century or so, the Jutes had joint rulers (with the lesser of them controlling the less important West Kent area); Hengist may have led them, but Horsa ruled alongside him until his death in battle with the British, and then Hengist's son Aesc took on the role until Hengist's death. The (eastern) capital was the Roman city of Durovernum Cantiacorum, called Cantwarabyrig (modern Canterbury, "fortress of the Men of Kent") by the Jutes. Modern Eastry was known as Eastorege, or "Eastern Region."[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]For general Anglo-Saxon immigration information, please visit the BBC's Legacies pages. The dates given below are generally extracted from The Anglo-Saxon Chronicles.[/FONT]
[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width=111 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]449 - 488[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=235 colSpan=2 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Hengist[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=436 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif][/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width=111 height=2>[FONT=Arial, serif]449 - 455[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=2 background=../Images/HistoryShadedBack.jpg height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Horsa[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=436 height=2>[FONT=Arial, serif]Joint ruler.[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width=111 height=2>[FONT=Arial, serif]456 (457)[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=725 colSpan=3 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]After much hard fighting, the British abandon Kent.[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width=111 height=2>[FONT=Arial, serif]455 - 512/522[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=2 background=../Images/HistoryShadedBack.jpg height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif][/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=220 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Oisc / Oeric surnamed Aesc[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=436 height=2>[FONT=Arial, serif]Son. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, serif]Of West Kent. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, serif](455-488). King of Kent (488-512 or 522).[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width=111 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]?512 -[/FONT][FONT=Arial, serif] 540[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=235 colSpan=2 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Octa[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=436 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Son.[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width=111 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]540 - 560[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=235 colSpan=2 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Eormenric[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=436 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Son.[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width=111 height=2>[FONT=Arial, serif]c.540 - 560[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=725 colSpan=3 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Eormenric appears to be the one to assume formal control of the [/FONT][FONT=Arial, serif]East Seaxe, who had been settling the territory north of the Thames since c.500.[/FONT]</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=right width=111 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]560 - 616[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=235 colSpan=2 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Ethelbert I (Saint)[/FONT]</TD><TD vAlign=top width=436 height=19>[FONT=Arial, serif]Son. Bretwalda (591-616). [/FONT]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​
 
wake up, thak(rana), u fire the first shot then v r after u. n keep in mind a scientist turned historian can never afford 2 joke.:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
n history in itself was never a joke as u people read it and accept it that jat really started from surajmal only.

never challenging that what b4 surajmal jat was. whether he was always so silient 2 b ignored by history as a dead person?

jat makes his presence felt in a group of thousands people where they all look alike. then this creator of history was ignored by historians themselves????????/
 
we have rohilla jats in pachehnda village in muzaffar nagar district. those pathans were also jats initially. sakuni in mahabharat was also pathan but not muslim but jat. bacrtria was the name of afghanistan n even before bactria it was called dahia country like romania. it also belonged to a part of tokharistan/thakran/takkar/takhar jats.

ur search on net is good plz try more u'll get better results.
 
ur quote refers to some proud pathan who feels them superior to Jat. I'd like 2 add a few points.

1. Pathans are our descendents and its not vice versa.
2. Their claim that they are superior to Jat physically is wrong. Because tallest average height in the world is that of scandinavians i.e. norway, sweden, finland etc. They were all founded by Jats/Juts and Jutland there is nearby. Original name of scandinavia was skandhnabh which in Indian/Sanskrit means Sainikon ka Desh.
3. As far as comparison to average height with Indian Jats is concerned then Pathans average height is due to the heavy concentration of soldiers over there insiders and outsiders and due their breeding over there.
4. As far as pride of this pathan is concerned in taking woman of rajputs etc. then he should better take care of his own ancestory as explained above. All soldiers whether Greek, Jats, Mongols, Central Asians, Russians, Americans, Turks, Aryans, Huns, Kushans, Sakas, Dahiyas, ....... and so on the list is endless. They all came and passed through his land conquering them. Thats why he may be tall. Because soldiers height is above average height in any population.
5. In mahabharta it were jats who took pathan woman Gandhari by force (by Bhishma) and its not vice versa.
6. The land Jats occupy till today for thousands of years is the most fertile land in the world. While the land Pathans occupy today for thousands of years is one of the most unfertile one in the world. By this any one can match the bravery of a Jat with Pathan. Had they been so brave they could have been in modern Indian Jat land then!!!!!!!
7. This pathan claims to be very fighting type and proud of being mercenary soldier then it is easilly understood because what else a poor person will do who has nothing to eat and nothing to build and no land to practice agriculture.
8. These pathans never live in peace and never let others also live in peace, this is rather not to be boasted but condemned.

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so u can reply to this pathan like this......
 
Tokharistan is a name which was given to Bactria, following its settlement by various Central Asian people in the 2nd century BCE.
The first literary mentions of Tokharistan appear at the end of the 4th century CE in Chinese Buddhist sources (the Vibhasa-sastra). However the first mention of the Tocharians appear much sooner, in the 1st century BCE, when Strabo mentions that "the Tokharians, together with the Assianis, Passianis and Sakaraulis, took part in the destruction of the Greco-Bactrian kingdom" in the second half of the 2nd century BCE. Ptolemy (2nd century CE) also mentions a large Tokharian tribe in Bactria, describing the central role of the Tokharians among other tribes in Bactria.
The territory of Tokharistan was identical with Kushan Bactria, including the areas of Surkhandarya, Southern Tajikistan and Northern Afghanistan.
From the 3rd century to the 4th century CE, Tokharistan was under the rule of the Sassanides. Later, in the 5th century, it was controlled by the Khionits and the Hephthalites. In the 7th century, after a brief rule under the Turkish Khaganats, it was conquered by the Arabs.
 
Takhar/Thakar/Takkar/Tokhar Jats in Indian Literature
<HR style="COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->The Ancient Sanskrit literature refers to Tocharians as Tusharas, Tukharas, Tokharas and Tuharas etc. There are numerous references to this people in the ancient Sanskrit texts. E.g:Atharavaveda Parisista (Ed Bolling & Negelein, 41.3.3) associates the Tusharas with the Sakas,Yavanas and the Bahilkas. (Saka. Yavana.Tushara.Bahlikashcha). Atharvaveda-Parisia also juxtaposes the Kambojas with the Bahlikas (Kamboja-Bahlika..., AV-Par, 57.2.5; cf Persica-9, 1980, p 106, Dr Michael Witzel). This shows the Tusharas probably were neighbors to the Shakas, Bahlikas, Yavanas and the Kambojas in Transoxian region. The Santi Parva of Mahabharata associates the Tusharas with the Yavanas, Kiratas, Gandharas, Chinas, Kambojas, Pahlavas, Kankas, Sabaras, Barbaras, Ramathas etc. and brands them all as Barbaric tribes of Uttarapatha, leading lives of Dasyus (MBH 12.65.13-15). Sabha Parva of Mahabharata (Chapters 48-50) states that kings of the Kambojas, Sakas , Tukharas, Kankas and Romakas etc had brought with them as tribute Camels, horses, elephants and gold on the occasion of Rajasuya Yajna performed by Yudhisthira at Hastinapura. Later the Tusharas, Sakas and Yavanas had joined the military division of the Kambojas and had participated in the Mahabharata war on Kauravas' side (MBH 6.66.17-21; MBH 8.88.17). Karna Parva of Mahabharata describes the Tusharas as very ferocious and wrathful warriors. At one place in Mahabharata, the Tusharas find mention with the Shakas and the Kankas (Shakas.Tusharah.Kankascha). At another place they come with the Shakas, Kankas and Pahlavas (Shakas Tusharah Kankashch.Pahlavashcha). And at other places they come with the Shakas, Yavanas and the Kambojas (Shaka.Tushara.Yavanashcha sadinah sahaiva.Kambojavaraijidhansavah) OR (Kritavarma tu sahitah Kambojarvarai.Bahlikaih...Tushara.Yavanashchaiva.S hakashcha saha Chulikaih) etc. Puranic texts like Vayu Purana, Brahamanda Purana and Vamana Purana etc associates the Tusharas with the Shakas, Barbaras, Kambojas, Daradas, Viprendras, Anglaukas, Yavanas, Pahlavas etc and refer to them all as the tribes of Udichya i.e. north or north-west (Brahmanda Purana 27.46-48). Puranic literature further states that the Tusharas and other tribes like Gandharas, Shakas, Pahlavas, Kambojas, Paradas, Yavanas, Barbaras, Khasa, Lampakas etc would be invaded and annhilated by king Kaliki at the end of Kaliyuga. And they were annhilated by king Pramiti at the end of Kaliyga (Vayu I.58.78-83; cf: Matsya 144.51-58). According to Vayu Purana and Matsya Purana, river Chakshu (Oxus or Amu Darya) flowed through the countries of Tusharas, Lampakas, Pahlavas, Paradas and the Shakas etc (Vayu Purana I.58.78-83).
The Brihat-Katha-Manjari (10/1/285-86) of Pt Kshmendra relates that around 400 AD, Gupta king Vikramaditya (Chandragupta II) had "unburdened the sacred earth by destroying the barbarians" like the Tusharas, Shakas, Mlecchas, Kambojas, Yavanas, Parasikas, Hunas etc.
Rajatrangini of Kalhana attests that king Laliditya Muktapida, the eighth century ruler of Kashmir had invaded the tribes of the north and after defeating the Kambojas, he immediately faced the Tusharas. The Tusharas did not give a fight but fled to the mountain ranges leaving their horses in the battle field (RT IV.165-166). This shows that during 8th century AD, a section of the Tusharas were living as neighbors of the Kambojas near the Oxus valley.
 
But sixth century AD Brhatsamhita of Vrahamihira also locates the Tusharas with Barukachcha (Bhroach) and Barbaricum (on Indus Delta) near sea in western India (bharukaccha.samudra.romaka.tushrah.. :Brhatsamhita XVI.6). The Romakas was a colony of the Romans near the port of Barbaricum in Sindhu Delta (see comments: Dr M. R Singh in The Geographical Data of Early Purana, 1972, p 26). This shows that a section of the Tusharas had also moved to western India and was living there around Vrahamihira's time. Going out of the Iron Pass, seventh century AD Chinese pilgrim Hiun Tsang had entered Tu-huo-lo (Tushara) country which lied to the north of the great snow mountains (Hindukush), to the south of Iron Pass and to the east of Persia. During Hiun Tsang’s times, country of Tushara was divided into 27 administrative units, each having its seperate chieftain. The Kumitos of Hiun Tsang's accounts (or the Kumijis of Al-Maqidisi) appear to be Kambojas who were living neigbors to the Tusharas accross the Hindukush in the Oxus valley. The tenth century AD Kavyamimamsa of Rajsheikher lists the Tusharas with several other tribes of the Uttarapatha viz: the Shakas, Kekeyas, Vokkanas, Hunas, Kambojas, Bahlikas, Pahlavas, Limpakas, Kulutas, Tanganas, Turushakas, Barbaras, Ramathas etc. (See: Kavyamimamsa, Chaper 17). This attests that the Tusharas were different from the Turushakas with whom they are often confused by some writers. There is also a mention of Tushara-Giri (Tushara mountain) in the Mahabharata, Harshacharita of Bana Bhata and Kavyamimansa of Rajshekhar. The Rishikas are said to be same people as the Yuezhis (Dr V. S. Aggarwala, K. D. Sethna). The Kushanas or Kanishkas are also the same people (Dr J. C. Vidyalnkara). Prof Stein says that the Tukharas (Tokharois/Tokarais) were a branch of the Yue-chi or Yuezhi. Thus, the Rishikas (q.v.), Tusharas/Tukharas (Tokharoi/Tokaroi) and the Yuezhis probably were either same or an allied people.
 
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