Jat unity-Are we really united ??

[ritu]

darsal raka ji ne sher te bhi utna darr nahi lagta jitna infraction te.iss maare darr gye hoge....:sorrow:

..ha ha..u r rt ritu ji..atleast i shld hv put bhai ot ji..
... manne to ruka nyu mara..akk wo bechara fasa padya tha hade...
..or eddi tha tha baaat dekh rhya tha aapki...

 

[drrajpalsingh]

The posts by us in the thread under reference are clear enough to reveal the 'unity' of the community.

 

[sumitjattan]

Karminder sir ... As per my observations the lack of tolerance and a feeling of pseudo bravedo are the qualities which are keeping us behind as a unified race .

 

[drkarminder]

Karminder sir ... As per my observations the lack of tolerance and a feeling of pseudo bravedo are the qualities which are keeping us behind as a unified race .

....this is the best post i hv seen in this thread....
..excellent...

 

[jksangwan]

haha apni apni tension aape sulato tum.mere sarr hon ne aur tension bahut betaab rahve se.sorry jk sangwan ji aapke thread p off topic posts ke liye.

koi bat nahi ritu ji ekta tu bad rahi h.aur ye mera thread nahi,app logo ka h.I am very happy u jats are stimulating your minds.Now I am assured something positive will definitely come out of this this talks.I thanks a lot to every jat who is giving his/her valueable thoughts whether negative or positive.

 

[rana1]

चलो में आपको एक और उदहारण पैस करता हु .. दिमाग के अभाव में जाटो के बर्बाद होने का...
..ये एक सच्ची घटना है...आज से सायद ४-५ साल पहले की...रोहतक में झज्झर चुंगी के पास एक murder हुआ था ..s .h.o का....वो सिविल ड्रेस में था..
..कत्ल करने वालों में जो मैं accused था ..वो मेरा बहुत अच्छा दोस्त है ..नाम था सोनू (मंदाने का) ..हुम दोनों बचपन से साथ साथ पढ़े ..फिर में सोनीपत हिन्दू स्कूल में चला गया और वो जिद करके छारा (महराना.दुजाना) वाले अखाड़े में चला गया...भगवान की दया से सब कुछ अच्छा चलता रहा और उसकी शादी हुई ..बहुत सुंदर और घरेलु पत्नी मिली उसे....फिर उसने जाट कॉलेज में admission ले लिय...भगवन ने उसको दो बहुत प्यारी बच्चियां दी.. afterthat he was feeling free as wind ..with no rules ....
..एक दिन दारु पि के होटल आले के साथ झगडा हो गया,,वहां थानेदार साहब छुटाने आ गया सिविल ड्रेस में ..और उसको उन सब दोस्तों ने पीट पीट कर मार दिया....
..सोनू influence से case जीत गया..पैर तीन साल तक उसकी ज़मानत नहीं हुई..पीछे से उसके छोटे भाई ने उसकी पत्नी को तंग जरना सूरू कर दिया ..फिर बहार आने पैर उसने मुझे मिलने के लिए delhi i.s .b .t बुलाया...he was going to vaishnodevi for prayer along with his wife and kids..
...मुझ से मिलते ही रोने लग गया ..बोला यार कास में तेरे साथ सोनीपत चला जाता तो आज में क्रिमिनल नहीं होता..
मैंने उसकी दोनों बच्चियों की तरफ देखा,मेरे भी आसूं आ गए..हमारी बहुत देर बात हुई..मैंने उसे समझया जी अब भी तेरे पास टाइम है..तू मेरी ही age का है..कुछ धंधा कर ले...
..अभी उसने ट्रांसपोर्ट का बजनेस किया है और अच्छा चल रहा है...
..आज भी उसके और उसके भाई बहुत दुश्मनी है....थानेदार का लड़का सोनू कप पकड़ने की बात मैं बिठा है...
..भंगवान जाने आगे क्या होगा..पैर में भगवान से रोज़ प्रार्थना करता हु की जो भी हो अच्छा हो....क्योंको वो मेरा बहुत अच्छा दोस्त है ...में उसे बर्बाद होते नहीं देख सकता...

जी karminder भाई हुई थी एक छोटी सी मुलाकात इस भाई से ७ ८ साल पहले इसके मामा जी की लड़की की शादी म.... जब तक असा कुछ नहीं था ये रोहतक रहते थे सुनारिया चौक प अबका पता नहीं उस टाइम तो जो हुआ सो हुआ आगे भगवान इस भाई को सही रास्ता दिखाए..............मैंने येहा भी देखा ह कई भाई भौत जल्दी गरम हो जाते ह छोटी छोटी बाता प बुरा मान ले ह येहा कोण दूसरा ह सब अपने ही तो ह हसने हँसाने की जिन्दगी ह ..के बेरा कित कुनसे ट्रैक के पहिया निचे लिख राखी हो......

ऑर आधे से जाएदा क्रिमनल केस इस नसे की वजह से होते ह दूध दही का कहना ये मेरा हरयाणा शायद ही ये कहावत आगे आने वाली पिढ़ी को सुन्न्ये को मिले .............!!! (हा एक बात ह माहरे जाट परिवारा म भाई भाई की लडाई देख क तीसरा नजदीक कोणी आवे .....अक जब आपस म भाई भाई इतनी भुंडी ढाला लड़े स त बाहेर के का के राह ) आपे कट मर ले ह शायद ही दो भाइयो के घर म कोई अस्सा परिवार होगा जिसका आपस म झगडा ना हो.............!!!

 

[drkarminder]

जी karminder भाई हुई थी एक छोटी सी मुलाकात इस भाई से ७ ८ साल पहले इसके मामा जी की लड़की की शादी म.... जब तक असा कुछ नहीं था ये रोहतक रहते थे सुनारिया चौक प अबका पता नहीं उस टाइम तो जो हुआ सो हुआ आगे भगवान इस भाई को सही रास्ता दिखाए..............मैंने येहा भी देखा ह कई भाई भौत जल्दी गरम हो जाते ह छोटी छोटी बाता प बुरा मान ले ह येहा कोण दूसरा ह सब अपने ही तो ह हसने हँसाने की जिन्दगी ह ..के बेरा कित कुनसे ट्रैक के पहिया निचे लिख राखी हो......

ऑर आधे से जाएदा क्रिमनल केस इस नसे की वजह से होते ह दूध दही का कहना ये मेरा हरयाणा शायद ही ये कहावत आगे आने वाली पिढ़ी को सुन्न्ये को मिले .............!!! (हा एक बात ह माहरे जाट परिवारा म भाई भाई की लडाई देख क तीसरा नजदीक कोणी आवे .....अक जब आपस म भाई भाई इतनी भुंडी ढाला लड़े स त बाहेर के का के राह ) आपे कट मर ले ह शायद ही दो भाइयो के घर म कोई अस्सा परिवार होगा जिसका आपस म झगडा ना हो.............!!!

..he is still in contact wd me..his younger brother is staying at sunaria chowk now..my frnd has moved to his village...
..i dont want to go deep in discussion about this coz this is a social site nd we should avoid personally discussing smone..
..we will stop it here..
..but we should learn from these mistakes that hw much damage u can do to ur life in anger nd as sumit said in pseudo bravedo..

 

[drrajpalsingh]

.............मैंने येहा भी देखा ह कई भाई भौत जल्दी गरम हो जाते ह छोटी छोटी बाता प बुरा मान ले ह येहा कोण दूसरा ह सब अपने ही तो ह हसने हँसाने की जिन्दगी ह ........

Friend,

You are right to say that instead of feeling offended, we must cheer up those also who do not share our point of view on certain issues. This is the first pillar of democratic functioning of a community/society/nation or State.

Minor difference of approach on certain issues does not lead one to to say that there exists bad blood or feud among the majority of Jat families. I mean to say, difference of opinion or approach does not mean disunity.

Regards

 

[drkarminder]

Friend,

You are right to say that instead of feeling offended, we must cheer up those also who do not share our point of view on certain issues. This is the first pillar of democratic functioning of a community/society/nation or State.

Minor difference of approach on certain issues does not lead one to to say that there exists bad blood or feud among the majority of Jat families. I mean to say, difference of opinion or approach does not mean disunity.

Regards

..i think every jatlander should read these nice words by rajpal sir...
..difference in opinion always happen when two human brains come face to face...
..but that should not end in jealousy or rivalary....
..learning is a continuous process nd we should learn from each and everymoment of life..
..ur every learning will make u fit for tomorrow nd every negligence will drag u down...

 

[raka]

पहले कोई आदमी क़त्ल कर देता था तो समाज उसने जाति बाहर कर देता था हुक्का पानी बंद हो जाता था | आजकल उल्टा हो गया जो जितना बड़ा बदमाश उतना बड़ा नेता उतनी ज्यादा लोग उसकी हाजरी मारेंगे, अपने रिश्तेदारों को गुमान से बताएँगे के हमारा फलाना रिश्तेदार बहुत बड़ा दादा स | जैसे उतर प्रदेश , बिहार में बदमाशो को नेता बनाने का रिवाज हैं वैसा रिवाज अब अपने यहाँ भी चल पड़ा हैं | गाँव का सरपंच , जिला पार्षद, ब्लोक का प्रधान सभी पदों पर आज नजर उठा कर देख लो ज्यादतर बदमाश मिलेंगे | भाई डॉक्टर इस्ते बढ़िया और जल्दी सफलता पाने का और कोई रास्ता नहीं |
इसलिए यो नारा बुलंद करो " कराइम को व्यापार बनाना हैं , हरियाणा को बिहार बनाना हैं "

 

[arvindc]

पहले कोई आदमी क़त्ल कर देता था तो समाज उसने जाति बाहर कर देता था हुक्का पानी बंद हो जाता था | आजकल उल्टा हो गया जो जितना बड़ा बदमाश उतना बड़ा नेता उतनी ज्यादा लोग उसकी हाजरी मारेंगे, अपने रिश्तेदारों को गुमान से बताएँगे के हमारा फलाना रिश्तेदार बहुत बड़ा दादा स | जैसे उतर प्रदेश , बिहार में बदमाशो को नेता बनाने का रिवाज हैं वैसा रिवाज अब अपने यहाँ भी चल पड़ा हैं | गाँव का सरपंच , जिला पार्षद, ब्लोक का प्रधान सभी पदों पर आज नजर उठा कर देख लो ज्यादतर बदमाश मिलेंगे | भाई डॉक्टर इस्ते बढ़िया और जल्दी सफलता पाने का और कोई रास्ता नहीं |
इसलिए यो नारा बुलंद करो " कराइम को व्यापार बनाना हैं , हरियाणा को बिहार बनाना हैं "

सच्ची बात कही! कल्युग मैं राक्षस देवता समान होता है| अगर सभी जाट "दादा" इकठे हो जाएँ तो क्या "जाट" अपने आप देवता नहीं बन जायेगा?

ज्यादतर "दादों" मैं भी वसूल होतें हैं| आज के दिन एक दादा बहुत से ऐसे लोगों से अच्छा पर्तित होता है जो लठ, चाकू, और पिस्तोल की बजाये, पुलिस, कानून और लोभ को अपना हथियार बनाते हैं|

There is nothing impossible which the unity cannot achieve!

 

[drrajpalsingh]

पहले कोई आदमी क़त्ल कर देता था तो समाज उसने जाति बाहर कर देता था हुक्का पानी बंद हो जाता था | आजकल उल्टा हो गया जो जितना बड़ा बदमाश उतना बड़ा नेता उतनी ज्यादा लोग उसकी हाजरी मारेंगे, अपने रिश्तेदारों को गुमान से बताएँगे के हमारा फलाना रिश्तेदार बहुत बड़ा दादा स | जैसे उतर प्रदेश , बिहार में बदमाशो को नेता बनाने का रिवाज हैं वैसा रिवाज अब अपने यहाँ भी चल पड़ा हैं | गाँव का सरपंच , जिला पार्षद, ब्लोक का प्रधान सभी पदों पर आज नजर उठा कर देख लो ज्यादतर बदमाश मिलेंगे | भाई डॉक्टर इस्ते बढ़िया और जल्दी सफलता पाने का और कोई रास्ता नहीं |
इसलिए यो नारा बुलंद करो " कराइम को व्यापार बनाना हैं , हरियाणा को बिहार बनाना हैं "

Friend
You are working on other fronts also to improve the position of Jats and if you lose heart and become pessimist, then what will happen with the common Jats.
Your slogan, though raised in a lighter mood yet it does not look nice!
regards.

 

[jksangwan]

We discuss every issue with great intensity,and we figure out where we lack behind, but hardly do anything called execution of solution to the issue.

Dear prikshit,i have given some ideas in thread do you have some idea for execution of solution.Please share with us.or any other member have something,please share

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Dear prikshit,i have given some ideas in thread do you have some idea for execution of solution.Please share with us.or any other member have something,please share

Friend,

Please come out with your 'idea of execution'! Everybody would co-operate with you if it were there.

Regards

 

[cooljat]

Brother, I very much second with your viewpoint but at the same time I want to make your realise with few of the facts. I agree that we are superior race of alpha grade and we stand ahead in every other walk of life due to sheer hard work, determination and zeal to excel. We're like free as a wind and fearless as a Lion. We're frank n' forthright and arrogant n' rustic by nature, that's perfectly fine.

But my friend time is changing , even battle ground has changed and here we've to learn the 'Art of War' or we'll be defeated badly. You know a Lion sometimes can be killed by a group of hyenas, same situation emerged nowadays .. its Urban Jungle and as I stated not a familiar battle ground altogether and defeat is certain if you stick with old tactics and don't evolve with time. Yes! it's true .. as Ch. Chottu Ram stated 'Ek to dushman ko pechanana seekh le aur dusra bolna seekh le' so we need to equipped with the latest tactics and learn to thrive in today's world. And Unity is of utmost importance here, yeah .. very much true and Unity here doesn't mean we have to walk and fight in groups .. it's about growing together! Yes, to take our brethren together and help them in all means like financial, mentorship, guidance etc. I firmly believe our brethren've got immense energy and zeal to excel, all we require is to mentor and channelize it.

History is witness one who didn't evolve with time is vanished. And it's alarming situation with Jat community now, we've have been hard worker, fearless and self-dependent that's why our attitude has been a bit upfront, arrogant and rustic however we're very helping and good from heart. But nowadays in this urban jungle our enemies are equipped with arms like diplomacy, soft spokeness and back stabbing and to tackle with it we need to find out some strategy. Unity have got ultimate strength and it can defeat any such cheap tricks, and I already explained the true meaning of Unity in Jats context.

Hope it prevails some sense .. Unity is need of the hour and growing together is all we require!


Cheers
Jit

What a sheer stupidity is this call on lack on unity? You people, yes all of you, don't get tired of finding faults with your own self.? Shame on you all. You are hypocrites of ultimate grade. At various fronts you shout from rooftops with squizzed anal muscles about bravery, attitude and fearlessness of your race but at the same moment you fear about lack of unity. Why this foolishness touches you every now and then?

Where did you see and hear a fearless and straightforward person looking for a group? Such a personna is always free. That can't be bounded. Unity often seen among weak thaty they are always united because they fear most of the time from various things. Strong men will never be united because they don't accept anybody's rule. A jat's character is as free as wind. This oozing level of self esteem came over in character because of the centuries of hard work in fields and being the sole provider of grain to everybody in society. Now you think from your own wits that how can such a character of jat would be looking for unity who has been so independent all through the ages. Think many times. Unity,moreover, scientifically and naturally occurs when there is a big threat, a threat for survival, a threat of extinction. When that threat is conquered people would lead normal life. In jat's intrinsic nature submission is the last resort unless there is another level of evolution. Unity is a myth, a fantasy and a pretty lie.

All Jats can do is stride towards cooperation for each other's growth only if it is suitable.

Further, if anyone of the hypocrite feel offended, I don't care.

 

[drkarminder]

Brother, I very much second with your viewpoint but at the same time I want to make your realise with few of the facts. I agree that we are superior race of alpha grade and we stand ahead in every other walk of life due to sheer hard work, determination and zeal to excel. We're like free as a wind and fearless as a Lion. We're frank n' forthright and arrogant n' rustic by nature, that's perfectly fine.

But my friend time is changing , even battle ground has changed and here we've to learn the 'Art of War' or we'll be defeated badly. You know a Lion sometimes can be killed by a group of hyenas, same situation emerged nowadays .. its Urban Jungle and as I stated not a familiar battle ground altogether and defeat is certain if you stick with old tactics and don't evolve with time. Yes! it's true .. as Ch. Chottu Ram stated 'Ek to dushman ko pechanana seekh le aur dusra bolna seekh le' so we need to equipped with the latest tactics and learn to thrive in today's world. And Unity is of utmost importance here, yeah .. very much true and Unity here doesn't mean we have to walk and fight in groups .. it's about growing together! Yes, to take our brethren together and help them in all means like financial, mentorship, guidance etc. I firmly believe our brethren've got immense energy and zeal to excel, all we require is to mentor and channelize it.

History is witness one who didn't evolve with time is vanished. And it's alarming situation with Jat community now, we've have been hard worker, fearless and self-dependent that's why our attitude has been a bit upfront, arrogant and rustic however we're very helping and good from heart. But nowadays in this urban jungle our enemies are equipped with arms like diplomacy, soft spokeness and back stabbing and to tackle with it we need to find out some strategy. Unity have got ultimate strength and it can defeat any such cheap tricks, and I already explained the true meaning of Unity in Jats context.

Hope it prevails some sense .. Unity is need of the hour and growing together is all we require!


Cheers
Jit

..really appreciable....'survival for d fittest'

 

[kuldeepteotia]

What a sheer stupidity is this call on lack on unity? You people, yes all of you, don't get tired of finding faults with your own self.? Shame on you all. You are hypocrites of ultimate grade. At various fronts you shout from rooftops with squizzed anal muscles about bravery, attitude and fearlessness of your race but at the same moment you fear about lack of unity. Why this foolishness touches you every now and then?

Where did you see and hear a fearless and straightforward person looking for a group? Such a personna is always free. That can't be bounded. Unity often seen among weak thaty they are always united because they fear most of the time from various things. Strong men will never be united because they don't accept anybody's rule. A jat's character is as free as wind. This oozing level of self esteem came over in character because of the centuries of hard work in fields and

, I don't care.

Very wll said bhai kadian we jats can never be unite...as we all live with our high self-respect and don't follow others..if i find some jat is behaving bad to someone who may be not strong enough to defend hiself ,than my ego says to stand against(jat) him instead of favour/support to him..and this is how we mostly jat are....so the best case for jats is education only(which is the best case for any community as well)...

So that our energy dont go in wrong direction...now days ..this innocent ,high-esteemd and aggresive comunity is also getting infected with the infecton of corruption and crime..now days...

so we should give our most focus on education only.....
as the word unity is just a theoritical case for us jats(hindu/arya smaj Jats at least)
u may find a bit unity in sikh jats as because of sikhism.......but in us hindu jat that is not possible because we see the world with very much our original eyes and without the chasma of dharmjatoonhneehameergareeb etc...and this is what our inbuilt property...and pride...

 

[jksangwan]

I wish a very Happy Republic Day to all fellow Jats. Stay united,stay powerful. Those against unity remember that India is powerful today because it is union of states; otherwise if these states would have become countries- you can imagine what would have happened to strong India.

 

[balraaj]

sangwan sahab,
i am totally agreed with your views one should take initiative to lead this cause to unite this wonderful community
with regards

 

[fateh]

Karminder sir ... As per my observations the lack of tolerance and a feeling of pseudo bravedo are the qualities which are keeping us behind as a unified race .

Dear umit, very correct observation of reality, thanks