It’s a myth that reserved category candidates are less talented. Talent is in individual thing and one can not say the same thing about the whole group. Saying all reserved are dumb and all non reseved are the best of the society, is nothing but a dishonest statement.
When I was doing my masters, the class senior was a reserved candidate from Bihar. I have not seen such a brilliant person till date. others(reserved/nonreserved both) used to copy from him in the tutorial. And there were many south Indians who were also from reserved category and some of them were among the top 10. top 10 was a mix of reserved and non reserved.
Scoring higher percentage marks is just one parameter to measure the talent. But this is not the only one. And I must say it is not even the most important.
I think everyone here agrees that people in rural area are by no mean less talented than those living in cities, they just don’t have access to the good facilities.
Let me put a simple question and those who object to the reservation please try to give a simple answer if possible: If talented rural candidate gets some reservation, they will loose their talent. Is that what you all are saying?
my request to you all, please go and see in the villages, this talent is being converted in to criminals. The reason is: lack of opportunity. When not given any chance our youth are becoming direction less and converting into chota mota chor lutera. I am sure many of us are aware of this.
I would prefer being called from a reserved category rather than a criminal. Now they are calling our ancestor were criminals, but soon it will be true. I do not know our ancestor were chor-lutere or not , but for coming generations it will definitely be true. And they can not even say this is FALSE. Because it is not.
Reservation in my view is not a short term solution; it is a long term solution. It has already helped many people and it will help us also. but only if we get the status OBC.
It’s a myth that reserved category candidates are less talented. Talent is in individual thing and one can not say the same thing about the whole group. Saying all reserved are dumb and all non reseved are the best of the society, is nothing but a dishonest statement.
When I was doing my masters, the class senior was a reserved candidate from Bihar. I have not seen such a brilliant person till date. others(reserved/nonreserved both) used to copy from him in the tutorial. And there were many south Indians who were also from reserved category and some of them were among the top 10. top 10 was a mix of reserved and non reserved.
Scoring higher percentage marks is just one parameter to measure the talent. But this is not the only one. And I must say it is not even the most important.
I think everyone here agrees that people in rural area are by no mean less talented than those living in cities, they just don’t have access to the good facilities.
Let me put a simple question and those who object to the reservation please try to give a simple answer if possible: If talented rural candidate gets some reservation, they will loose their talent. Is that what you all are saying?
my request to you all, please go and see in the villages, this talent is being converted in to criminals. The reason is: lack of opportunity. When not given any chance our youth are becoming direction less and converting into chota mota chor lutera. I am sure many of us are aware of this.
I would prefer being called from a reserved category rather than a criminal. Now they are calling our ancestor were criminals, but soon it will be true. I do not know our ancestor were chor-lutere or not , but for coming generations it will definitely be true. And they can not even say this is FALSE. Because it is not.
Reservation in my view is not a short term solution; it is a long term solution. It has already helped many people and it will help us also. but only if we get the status OBC.
Gents,
I believe you guys wanted some suggestions, right? As for one, I would suggest you guys to do some homework and mathwork. If numbers show that Jats are going to reap most benefit out of reservation then take those data and show to your politicians. You need to work towards it to get it.
If the objective of this thread was to take a poll, I think pulse of majority is towards Yes. To be explicit why don't you take a Yes, No poll. And one more thing, don't expect consensus. Democracy and Consensus are like Saas-Bahu. And I would leave Jats alone for that matter. -
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Dear Vijay, see my comments in bold characters.
Just tell me honestly, your class senior or other talented persons u mentioned, were they dependent on reservation only ?
No. they were not. But it did help them to get admission to a reputed institution.
Listen buddy, i am not against the reservation but against the reservation on the basis of castism. If reservation is there that must be for every community otherwise no reservation.
Not only Jats but all people living in the villages should get the reservation. lekin Vijay bhai apni ladai khud ladni hoti hai. that is why I support reservation for the Jats. But if you ask meri dili ichcha, I support reservation for all rural people. Bania, Jat, Brahaman, Chamar jo bhi ho sab ke liye.
It should be totally on economic basis and rural/urban basis otherwise it is insignificant.
If it is made on economic basis, most Jats will get it anyway. I am with you here. But this is practicaly impossible and never going to happen.
Ok what you think if we Jat's get reservation the poor jats living in villeges and in remore areas will be benefitted. I don't think so. The people who are already having nice life are going to take benefit from that only.
I agree with you, some people who really do not need it, will start using it. But then, you can never make a perfect system. kuch toh loophole raha hee jate hain yar. Can you think of a system which is not being misused. but overall many rural people will also get benefit from it. This is what I think.
