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जाट भैयॊओ गुजरात और राजस्थान के सीमावर्ती जिले में एक जाति निवास करती है वो है अंजना चौधरी वो ,लोग खुद को जाट बोलते और अपना निकास राजस्थान और हरियाणा से मानते है और पाने आंजना चौधरी नाम पड़ने का कारन अपनी कुल देवी अंजना माता (हनुमान जी की माँ ) को मानते है उन के कारण ही उनको आंजना बोले लगे है उनके गोत्र भी अधिकाश जाटो जैसे है और वो अपनी जाति आंजना चौधरी लिखते है उनके कुछ गोत्र यह है
,पायल ,रावत हुड्डा ,सोनगरा चौहान, काली,बूरा ,भूरिया ,बेडा ,सिनवार ,पूनिया ,हगा, लौर,मोर ,कुछ गुजराती भाषा के गोत्र है है यह जाति नॉर्थ गुजरात में रहती है
तो क्या कोई बता सकता है की की वो जाट ही है या कोई दूसरी जाती
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JEETUTOMARJAT said:
जाट भैयॊओ गुजरात और राजस्थान के सीमावर्ती जिले में एक जाति निवास करती है वो है अंजना चौधरी वो ,लोग खुद को जाट बोलते और अपना निकास राजस्थान और हरियाणा से मानते है और पाने आंजना चौधरी नाम पड़ने का कारन अपनी कुल देवी अंजना माता (हनुमान जी की माँ ) को मानते है उन के कारण ही उनको आंजना बोले लगे है उनके गोत्र भी अधिकाश जाटो जैसे है और वो अपनी जाति आंजना चौधरी लिखते है उनके कुछ गोत्र यह है
,पायल ,रावत हुड्डा ,सोनगरा चौहान, काली,बूरा ,भूरिया ,बेडा ,सिनवार ,पूनिया ,हगा, लौर,मोर ,कुछ गुजराती भाषा के गोत्र है है यह जाति नॉर्थ गुजरात में रहती है
तो क्या कोई बता सकता है की की वो जाट ही है या कोई दूसरी जाती
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Friend,

Be specific please. It is vague and incomplete information.

The exact location i.e. village/city, tehsil, district and state of these people

may kindly be mentioned pointedly so as to enable others to find out the facts.

Thanks
 
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सर जी यह लोग गुजरातके मेहसाना जिले में है है और जालोर का सांसद देव जी मान पटेल एक अंजना है है इन लोगो का cultural जाटो जैसा ही है और यह लोग खुद को चौधरी जाति का बताते है
 
JEETUTOMARJAT said:
सर जी यह लोग गुजरातके मेहसाना जिले में है है और जालोर का सांसद देव जी मान पटेल एक अंजना है है इन लोगो का cultural जाटो जैसा ही है और यह लोग खुद को चौधरी जाति का बताते है
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If they write the same clan names then they are "Jats". We must remember "Jats" are not localized in one part of north western Bharat. Ok, we can say originally most of the clans lived and migrated into some major areas, but on the other hand due to migration, north western wars and so on, "Jat Clans" in small numbers must have moved from place to place in ancient times.

I can give you one example, there is a place called "Jaunpur" near "Banaras", there are some Jat villages near Jaunpur. There is a small fort meant for army in "Jaunpur", ancient Jats were warriors as they are now. there was migration of some Jat villages to this area. These Jats arrived in that area with fighting armies. The city of "Jaunpur" gave birth to one freedom fighter called "Thakur Ramesharwar Prasad", he was involved in Indian freedom struggle. During freedom struggle he published a news paper called "Samay", and had other great contributions during Indian freedom struggle. He was called "Thankur" but he is a "Jat" by blood. His wife still survives today, she is more then 100 years old. She is recognized by the government of India as "Dependent of a freedom fighter". She is from a village near Aligarh.

We must remember due to historic reasons Jat area of rule, dominance has decreased. Division of Bharat in the form of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, has left us with localized knowledge of our ancient existence. If u go to villages and ask people about their ancient pasts, rarely people know anything about it, many even do not know the existence of "Jat conversion to Sikhism and Muslim faith".Now due to commercialization and industrialization of life, this is going to further decrease as most commercialization and industrialization is taking place in Jat areas, with commercialization and industrialization will come family problems of nuclear families, less number of children, family feuds, family breakups and so on. These changes are inevitable until and unless a proactive approach is taken by "Khaps" and other local institutions to bring improvements and assistance to the community at ground level.
 
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JEETUTOMARJAT said:
सर जी यह लोग गुजरातके मेहसाना जिले में है है और जालोर का सांसद देव जी मान पटेल एक अंजना है है इन लोगो का cultural जाटो जैसा ही है और यह लोग खुद को चौधरी जाति का बताते है
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Friend,

Good. Now some people of the adjacent region could come forward to identify them for definite conclusion.

Surname [gotra]/clan name is guide to know the caste name since ancient times in majority of the cases. From the list furnished by you above, majority of the clan names represent modern day Jats. If the people under reference have ROTI-BETI relations with the Jats and also claim themselves to be the Jats, then what more proof is required to identify them.

Jat kinship arises out of their belongings out of historical, cultural and tradition based similarities. Religion and faith has nothing to do with the clan based kinship among the Jats.

It has rightly been surmised by an eminent historian:

Irrespective of change of their religious beliefs and faiths, Jat continues to cling to his clan name and with this arises kinship.

Thanks
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
Friend,

Good. Now some people of the adjacent region could come forward to identify them for definite conclusion.

Surname [gotra]/clan name is guide to know the caste name since ancient times in majority of the cases. From the list furnished by you above, majority of the clan names represent modern day Jats. If the people under reference have ROTI-BETI relations with the Jats and also claim themselves to be the Jats, then what more proof is required to identify them.

Jat kinship arises out of their belongings out of historical, cultural and tradition based similarities. Religion and faith has nothing to do with the clan based kinship among the Jats.

It has rightly been surmised by an eminent historian:

Irrespective of change of their religious beliefs and faiths, Jat continues to cling to his clan name and with this arises kinship.

Thanks
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Rightly said.
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
Friend,

Good. Now some people of the adjacent region could come forward to identify them for definite conclusion.

Surname [gotra]/clan name is guide to know the caste name since ancient times in majority of the cases. From the list furnished by you above, majority of the clan names represent modern day Jats. If the people under reference have ROTI-BETI relations with the Jats and also claim themselves to be the Jats, then what more proof is required to identify them.

Jat kinship arises out of their belongings out of historical, cultural and tradition based similarities. Religion and faith has nothing to do with the clan based kinship among the Jats.

It has rightly been surmised by an eminent historian:

Irrespective of change of their religious beliefs and faiths, Jat continues to cling to his clan name and with this arises kinship.

Thanks
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There is a need for integration and spread of knowledge. Knowledge of ancient history, clan relationships, etc. This integration must not only spread to Jat belt but also Gujjars, who are backword interms of knowledge and their history. We share same clan names and roots so there is a need to integrate these farming communities. This is the need of hour and changing times. Until and unless we do that, identities of these communities will be washed out in economic cycle and will be just lines in history books.
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
Friend,

Good. Now some people of the adjacent region could come forward to identify them for definite conclusion.

Surname [gotra]/clan name is guide to know the caste name since ancient times in majority of the cases. From the list furnished by you above, majority of the clan names represent modern day Jats. If the people under reference have ROTI-BETI relations with the Jats and also claim themselves to be the Jats, then what more proof is required to identify them.

Jat kinship arises out of their belongings out of historical, cultural and tradition based similarities. Religion and faith has nothing to do with the clan based kinship among the Jats.

It has rightly been surmised by an eminent historian:

Irrespective of change of their religious beliefs and faiths, Jat continues to cling to his clan name and with this arises kinship.

Thanks
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I wanted to reply to Dr. Rajpal and this is not regarding the current post. I wrote a reply to some post few days back and it wrote something extra, which stated somethings about land grabbing. I am not able to locate that post, now. I stated something about a land grabbing and some elements who are located out of India, might be involved. I was living out of India for some time and experienced certain issues. My perspective might be wrong but, i felt someone or some institution were trying to create situations. Recently there were odd incident at the near my house by some people who parked a truck infront of my house,,,somethings were written on it in Punjabi and the number plate of the truck was that of Himachal Pradesh. There was an odd incident, i am not going to elaborate it but it seemed some one or some institutions were up to something.
Me as a citizen and an engineer from India should be free to go, live and work anywhere in the world, if some institutions were trying to exploit the situation or create situations, then one has to think, who is behind all such events and what is the moto?
 
maddhan1979 said:
I wanted to reply to Dr. Rajpal and this is not regarding the current post. I wrote a reply to some post few days back and it wrote something extra, which stated somethings about land grabbing. I am not able to locate that post, now. I stated something about a land grabbing and some elements who are located out of India, might be involved. I was living out of India for some time and experienced certain issues. My perspective might be wrong but, i felt someone or some institution were trying to create situations. Recently there were odd incident at the near my house by some people who parked a truck infront of my house,,,somethings were written on it in Punjabi and the number plate of the truck was that of Himachal Pradesh. There was an odd incident, i am not going to elaborate it but it seemed some one or some institutions were up to something.
Me as a citizen and an engineer from India should be free to go, live and work anywhere in the world, if some institutions were trying to exploit the situation or create situations, then one has to think, who is behind all such events and what is the moto?
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I do not know, who were these people, they were also trying to create situations, when i was abroad. Well, if they do wrong, they will be caught and persecuted. Any educated individual doing some scientific study or work any where out of India, should not be subject to any kind of harassment by any of the groups in India or abroad. This could also involve harassment by media or other institutions trying to create a case.
 
Shantanu Maddhan sir ji aap mujh janpur ke un jato ke baare me bataye kya unke wha gaon aaj bhi hai or kya wo abhi tak jaat hai ya rajput ban gye hai
 
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