Kashmir-what could be the solution?

No solution - only compromise...

Dear All,

The chance to find a solution to the Kashmir Problem was lost in 1948 when the great Pt Nehru agreed to a ceasefire ignoring the pleas of General Kariappa and the Indian Army. Now all we as citizens ‘HOPE’ for is a compromise, a compromise that hopefully leaves the rest of the country in one piece. I have absolutely no hope or even expectation from the present dispensation or even the future one, for the simple reason that I can’t think of even one problem that these people have solved since independence. Seriously, I urge people to start giving a very serious thought to what I have just said. Name one problem these politicians have solved, except of course solving their own financial worries.

I thought a nation as large as ours should be talikng about taking back our lost territories from Pak and China. But today I have my doubts. The polity of this nation is incapable of doing so. They have even stopped discussing it in public domain. And the so called ‘Track 2 Diplomacy’ is nothing but post retirement benefit congregation of individuals who were otherwise a failure while in service.

In this very forum in 2004, I had listed as to why India will find it problematic to become a superpower in the true sense of the word. Let me cut-paste the points. What I feel today is written in brackets:

(a) Kashmir Issue and the growing trend of sub nationalistic separatist demands. (Since then over 200 districts affected by Naxal Violence and counting. Even farmers around Delhi one day will pick up arms – mark my words).
(b) Communal disharmony and caste divide. (Growing by the day)
(c) Increasing gap between Rich and Poor. (Too obvious to be ignored)
(d) Growing number of displaced people due to reasons of development. (Commonwealth Games has brought in over quarter of a million labor in New Delhi, and they won’t go back)
(e) AIDS. (Dengue, Malaria and Malnutrition thrive)
(f) Discredited polity and corrupt politicians. (Now they have started saying that the amount involved is less than ‘The other scam’ – Wa re sher ke bachcho, kha jyao is desh ne).
(g) Lack of basic amenities; Water, Health, Education & Shelter. (You can add few more; rotten grain, suicides, poor standards of construction etc)
(h) Absence of a Leader who can inspire confidence. (Kitne ak din bachh re hain ‘Kalyug’ ke?)

There is only one solution to the Kashmir Problem. We have to first build bridges with the JATS of Pakistan. The initiative would have to be taken by JATS - across religions. And the initiative should be to rediscover the 'Bahichara' that JATS had with all communities and religions. Let us stop feeling happy when millions of Pakistanis suffer the ravages of floods or terrorists attacks. If you read between the lines the people who suffer the maximum in Pakistan are JATS. Only the wordly wise JATS can sit and discuss with them all the problems in the world. Only we know how to make strangers feel at home.

I appeal to the JATLAND administrators to throw open this site to Pakistani JATS. Jab tak JAT bol batlaa nahin leingein, kisi samasyaa ka koi hal nahin niklega...

Best regards,

JS Malik
 
Awesome reply Jaggu Uncle!!

In fact I was eagerly waiting for your reply, you cleared up the blurred picture very well. Even I replied somewhat same here and like you I don't have any hope whatsoever. I think this issue always linger on cuz' its become a political agenda.

I think our democracy is absurd and total failure. I don't how much tolerance we have for this anarchy. Its high time to bring the revolution and impose Martial Law .. I believe there is no other way out!

Uncle, I need your valuable thoughts on other thread which I have just started for Martial Law and its need in current failed scenario, plz have a look -

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?30404-Martial-Law-in-India-Need-of-the-hour!-..-your-thoughts-..


Cheers
Jit
jagmohan said:
Dear All,

The chance to find a solution to the Kashmir Problem was lost in 1948 when the great Pt Nehru agreed to a ceasefire ignoring the pleas of General Kariappa and the Indian Army. Now all we as citizens ‘HOPE’ for is a compromise, a compromise that hopefully leaves the rest of the country in one piece. I have absolutely no hope or even expectation from the present dispensation or even the future one, for the simple reason that I can’t think of even one problem that these people have solved since independence. Seriously, I urge people to start giving a very serious thought to what I have just said. Name one problem these politicians have solved, except of course solving their own financial worries.

I thought a nation as large as ours should be talikng about taking back our lost territories from Pak and China. But today I have my doubts. The polity of this nation is incapable of doing so. They have even stopped discussing it in public domain. And the so called ‘Track 2 Diplomacy’ is nothing but post retirement benefit congregation of individuals who were otherwise a failure while in service.

In this very forum in 2004, I had listed as to why India will find it problematic to become a superpower in the true sense of the word. Let me cut-paste the points. What I feel today is written in brackets:

(a) Kashmir Issue and the growing trend of sub nationalistic separatist demands. (Since then over 200 districts affected by Naxal Violence and counting. Even farmers around Delhi one day will pick up arms – mark my words).
(b) Communal disharmony and caste divide. (Growing by the day)
(c) Increasing gap between Rich and Poor. (Too obvious to be ignored)
(d) Growing number of displaced people due to reasons of development. (Commonwealth Games has brought in over quarter of a million labor in New Delhi, and they won’t go back)
(e) AIDS. (Dengue, Malaria and Malnutrition thrive)
(f) Discredited polity and corrupt politicians. (Now they have started saying that the amount involved is less than ‘The other scam’ – Wa re sher ke bachcho, kha jyao is desh ne).
(g) Lack of basic amenities; Water, Health, Education & Shelter. (You can add few more; rotten grain, suicides, poor standards of construction etc)
(h) Absence of a Leader who can inspire confidence. (Kitne ak din bachh re hain ‘Kalyug’ ke?)
There is only one solution to the Kashmir Problem. We have to first build bridges with the JATS of Pakistan. The initiative would have to be taken by JATS - across religions. And the initiative should be to rediscover the 'Bahichara' that JATS had with all communities and religions. Let us stop feeling happy when millions of Pakistanis suffer the ravages of floods or terrorists attacks. If you read between the lines the people who suffer the maximum in Pakistan are JATS. Only the wordly wise JATS can sit and discuss with them all the problems in the world. Only we know how to make strangers feel at home.

I appeal to the JATLAND administrators to throw open this site to Pakistani JATS. Jab tak JAT bol batlaa nahin leingein, kisi samasyaa ka koi hal nahin niklega...

Best regards,

JS Malik
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Here I thought we had beaten this topic to death many times before. Funny enough it keeps coming back in different Avatar. Need of the hour is someone like Hitler and SS Waffen who will just shoot and execute anyone who does not follow the diktat.
Worst Damage done to India was by three PM's
1. Moron Singh = Current PM
2. Idiot Kumar = IK Gujral
3. Douche Bag = Deve Gowda

Moron Singh has single handily given the momentum and initiative to Pakistanis after all his Faux Pas and Gaffes. There is reason why an 80 yr old जिसके पैर कब्र में लटके हों should not be at the helm of running a country. Security forces stole the initiative from Pakistanis and terrorists at great cost but....
2nd loser was IK Gujral who was blinded by his pakistani roots, he compromised the work of Indian Intelligence and Military of past 50 years within two years of his leadership.
As long as these Futards are here how can anyone expect winning.
What is truly amazing, Suresh Kalmadi didn't hesitate in forging a letter from Indian High Commission London to pass the buck to someone else..
Another Loser and Futard is SM Krishna who didn't have the Cajones to stand by his bureaucrat. Even if these Senior officials have developed some Cajones these leaders are readily available to backstab them. I have to give props to pakistan how they have developed a uniform and cohesive purpose to beat India at every step.
After seeing these politicians now I understand very clearly why Muslim Invaders and Brits were able to enslave India for so long. Brits ruled this country of 300 Million at that time, with only 20,000 British officers. unbelievable.......????

Just to put the dagger through the heart of Indians, Moron Singh will get the Nuke Liability bill passed as law where liability of Chernobyl type accident in India will be compensated at $30 Million dollars aka 1500 crore Rs. He is selling this nation out cheaply and there is not a voice from anyone, everyone is busy stealing from eachother while living in fools paradise things will get better. if one of the proposed nuke reactors blow up--given the population density in India, Hiroshima and Nagasaki will look like walk in the park. Moron Singh doesn't care, by the time it happens he will be reduced to ashes and grass.
 
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well, its just the lack of political will that the issue lingers. Things could have been different had there been unflinching goal of ending terrorism in kashmir. And now the human rights is the most irritating factor. Ignorant people are in the ranks of national human rights comission. One of the had come to address us in the academy but ended up being dumb founded when asked abt the human rights of the soldiers. A soldier is the most exploited chap in kashmir. With no rights. He can't blow up the house in which a militant is hiding in a well sighted position. He has to go in and gets killed. Where are the human rights there. militants are being helped by the locals but when army questions civilians , huuman rights steps in. It is very dificult to handle the kashmir issue unless a strong unopposed political will exists. These are the facts.
 
What's The Matter Behind J & K ?

1. Why **** happening with J & K people ?

2. Why India and Pakistan Sins Committed on J & k ?




Just approximately 3 months after the creation of Pakistan, Pakistan attacks Kashmir with all its military might. Hari Singh, the King of Kashmir requests Nehru for help. Nehru put forth a precondition namely ‘If you hand over the reins of Kashmir to Sheikh Abdullah, only then I will provide help.’ Before the Indian army which had gone to help in securing Kashmir, could secure Kashmir fully Nehru orders the army to stop all operations. Nehru himself handed over a large part of Kashmir to Pakistan and handed over Kashmir, a Hindu kingdom, to Abdullah in order to please Muslims. The wound inflicted on Kashmir has been kept bleeding continuously. King Hari Singh did not get even a single penny from Nehru.
 
bhamman kaa kahanaa monegey to nu-a hovegaa,saari musibtaan ki jad nahru khaandaa s er fer bhi unn ney sir pe dhrey haandan laagrey sein.

ek kahaawat s "jit do bakhat kaa took miljyaa bhaaman uskaa ho jayaa , er jit do pissyaan kaa fedaa ho jaa baaniyaa ode-a bas jaa " to bhai inkaa koye desh dharam ni hondaa.
 
But We all know that What's going on in J & K still now.

Nehru Gone But still there Problem.
 
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