Khosla Ka Ghosla

[pnauhwar21]

Kharub Bhai,

I don't think the image of Jats as pahalwan or rough-tough guys is a problem. Rather that image only has given a unique identity to Jats which we are proud of. Padhe-likhe jaton se bhi koi jaldi panga nahi leta coz they know ki jat ka dimaag ghoom gaya to latth marega

As for depiction of Jat as the goon guarding the property in the movie, I don't think we should raise a question there too. Wouldn't a punjabi then ask why a person from their community was shown to be a corrupt land grabber when there are lots of jats, gujjars and folks from other communities too doing similar stuff. Jats image is still better than Punjabis and baniyas who are told as dogle and kanjoos even though everyone is not same. If we are questioning a depiction of a Jat as a pahalwan goon, we are morally bound not to ask filmmakers to show a gujjar or punjabi in that role. A person's nature or social character doesn't depend on his caste but his upbringing. We need to improve the upbringing of our future generations so that they do something good for the society rather than working as land mafias or sadakchhap goondas. Same is the case with people of other communities. Every baniya and punjabi is not kanjoos and dogla. So, lets respect all and talk about improving India as a whole.

 

[kharub]

Ya I guess you are probably right ...... we better be the muscle man then the shrewd, cunning and boneless conman

 

[neels]

Why not Gujjar or Yadav .... or why not just Balbir ... why Balbir Jat ??

Simply becus... the Force or Strength which needed to be shown in the character wud come with the word Jat only, not with gujjar ,yadav or anyone else....... If take it in a positive way, they wanted to show Jats are Mighty.

 

[trueblueindian]

Simply becus... the Force or Strength which needed to be shown in the character wud come with the word Jat only, not with gujjar ,yadav or anyone else....... If take it in a positive way, they wanted to show Jats are Mighty.

hahahhahahahhahahaa thats the spirit lillliy jiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...... gud hai

 

[vijay]

neelam ji.....sardar to asli jindagi mein bhi item hi hain....
jokes aur movies mein kuch galat nahin batate!!!....

Had you ever visit Chandigarh or Punjab area and ever came into contacts with Jatt Sikhs. You will change your perception forever about them.

They are so nice and brave people but not funny by any means.

 

[vijay]

neelam ji...kisi din rajendar nagar (near karol bagh) aa jayeiye....aapka perception phir change ho jayega!!!....

PPL residing in Rajender Nagar and Tilak Nagar are Bappa'a but not Jatt Sikhs. In desi language we used to call them 'Nakli Sardars' and even Jatt Sikhs hate them too.

 

[keshavdahiya]

Had you ever visit Chandigarh or Punjab area and ever came into contacts with Jatt Sikhs. You will change your perception forever about them.

They are so nice and brave people but not funny by any means.

what are u talking about VJ....i mean dont u find such people in Haryana...or haryanvi jats...
according to me thats where the problem lies...its us who have misconceptions about the Haryanvi jats...I have seen and met sikh jats ranging from all kinda of characters...its in our minds how we look at people .....we find people of all tastes in all communities........
to be honest Best state to live in India wud be Haryana....if we consider all aspects>>>Crime, property, living conditions,development, eating habits, health and other such issues........I am not saying that punjab is bad...but all in all a rough area which includes wetern UP, Haryana, Punjab ..... is undoubtedly the best area...I am not talking about the city here...rather an area.......and the area I mentioned above has major population of Jats......so think about you....


I have an idea...go and talk to people who have never met Jats....and they will tell u what they think about u as a person.....


arre history section mein jakke dekh lo.....history says it all.....

 

[brainspeak]

PPL residing in Rajender Nagar and Tilak Nagar are Bappa'a but not Jatt Sikhs. In desi language we used to call them 'Nakli Sardars' and even Jatt Sikhs hate them too.

asli nakli ki pehchan bhai tujhe hogi....to me they all look the same...
aur sardar to sardar hai,bappa ho ya bappi...

 

[hdsura]

Rajasthan

It got to be RAJASTHAN (The best place to live in India).

I love that cool, golden sand and Bajare Ki Roti with Chach+Rabri. YUM.

That's it.

 

[vijay]

what are u talking about VJ....i mean dont u find such people in Haryana...or haryanvi jats...

I never said that i didn't find such people in Haryana. Jats are the best but if somebody claims that only Haryanvi jats are best than i have doubts. No wonder why ?

according to me thats where the problem lies...its us who have misconceptions about the Haryanvi jats...I have seen and met sikh jats ranging from all kinda of characters...its in our minds how we look at people .....we find people of all tastes in all communities........

Yes, problem lies within us becoz i just praised a community which is just like us and some ppl from our community can't digest that at all

to be honest Best state to live in India wud be Haryana....if we consider all aspects>>>Crime, property, living conditions,development, eating habits, health and other such issues........I am not saying that punjab is bad...but all in all a rough area which includes wetern UP, Haryana, Punjab ..... is undoubtedly the best area...I am not talking about the city here...rather an area.......and the area I mentioned above has major population of Jats......so think about you....

Is it about area with Jat population or any community ? Just prepare yourself to be get used to recognize and accept the real facts. Punjab is far better than Haryana regarding the espects you mentioned except Jat population. But yes Haryana have dense and %age wise best for Jats. But for yout kind info Rajasthan have the more Jat population than Haryana.

I have an idea...go and talk to people who have never met Jats....and they will tell u what they think about u as a person.....

I had met a lot of persons when i entered into IT scenario and know very well what ppl think about Jats. I just changed the minds of co-workers and other people about Jats and i wonder how many other Jats are doing that.

arre history section mein jakke dekh lo.....history says it all.....

Wow ! that's a great news that you browse into History section too ! For your kind info i visit regularly there and post my views but for ur conformation just ask the memeber who are contributing into History section what they think if you can spare some time from humour section.

 

[vijay]

asli nakli ki pehchan bhai tujhe hogi....to me they all look the same...
aur sardar to sardar hai,bappa ho ya bappi...

May God bless your GK !

I suppose ppl must have some general knowledge on the subject before they post their views.

 

[brainspeak]

PPL residing in Rajender Nagar and Tilak Nagar are Bappa'a but not Jatt Sikhs. In desi language we used to call them 'Nakli Sardars' and even Jatt Sikhs hate them too.

May God bless your GK !

I suppose ppl must have some general knowledge on the subject before they post their views.

thnx for enlightening me....tomorrow itself i will enroll into a phd programme on asli sardars nd another one on nakli sardars....moreover i plan to buy a turban nd false beard...so as to get the right feel....

 

[shailendra]

And if you have seen the movie you would have noticed that the phalwan's name was Joginder Jat (or something like that) and the strong man who worked for the Punjabi Businessman and who was guarding the illegelly occupied land also had a very strong Haryanvi/Delhi Jat accent.

This was a clear evidence of prejudice other people have for Jats and what image they have in mind when they think of Jats.

Though true to a certain extent I still consider it as a misrepresentation of Jats and a bit of an insulting representaion of Jats.

...Ya 'mis-represantasion' aali baat katee sahee kahee bhaiyon, bahut choau aa rhya sai mannae bhi, ebbe batao kaun sai ya udd log en filma aale.... ude ja eeb unki hadee-pasli todta hun!!!

 

[trueblueindian]

Had you ever visit Chandigarh or Punjab area and ever came into contacts with Jatt Sikhs. You will change your perception forever about them.

They are so nice and brave people but not funny by any means.

PPL residing in Rajender Nagar and Tilak Nagar are Bappa'a but not Jatt Sikhs. In desi language we used to call them 'Nakli Sardars' and even Jatt Sikhs hate them too.

thats correct vijay..........



but whers this thrad heading guys ???

 

[vijay]

thnx for enlightening me....tomorrow itself i will enroll into a phd programme on asli sardars nd another one on nakli sardars....moreover i plan to buy a turban nd false beard...so as to get the right feel....

Yes, You really need that..... and just join the sardars resinding in Rajender Nagar and Tilak Nagar...

All the best !!!

 

[vijay]

thats correct vijay..........



but whers this thrad heading guys ???

Dabas Bhai,

I didn't initiated that but how can you tolerate stupid thinking of ppl who just commnets without any knowledge but just becoz of their perceptions.


Yes, i agree that we sidelined the main subject of the thread.

 

[trueblueindian]

Dabas Bhai,

I didn't initiated that but how can you tolerate stupid thinking of ppl who just commnets without any knowledge but just becoz of their perceptions.


Yes, i agree that we sidelined the main subject of the thread.

Lets all have a spirit and plz visit the thread " first post of 2007 " i guess thats the best answer to avoid clashes......

Also for those who arent aware - --

Sardars are primarially divided in into 3 divisions

1. jatt Sikhs - they are more or less like us, supposedly the cream of sardar race, they normally dont tei a turbon in rural areas and mostly u will find them a yellow / blue cloth tied on their forehead, also many of them also have short hairs, i also have inputs that even marriges take place between jatt sikhs and jats in parts nearing punjab n haryana, i have so many jatt sikh friends and even visit their family and i have allways been treated as a family / community member, also one would find lacs of jats claming dharmender ji to be a JAT, ppl he is also a jatt sikh ... for info.

2. ramgharihas - this is the 2nd in order sardar community

2. Bhappa Sikhs - no doubts most vlunerable, u normally find them as refugees in delhi, amritsar is full of them and a community which largely belonged to lahore regeion, it is these sardars and bhappa punjabis who are supposedly famous for their cunningness. even the other 2 communities of sardars dont carry very gud impression for them.
Thers a very famous saying in punjab - Eikk bhappa sou (100) syappa (trouble, tension).

aslo for info. marriges between these three communities is also strictly banned in punjab.

this was for general info. as i saw few members werent aware about jatt sikhs and the diff. between other sardars, now plz dont debate again..... hahahahahhaa keep the new year spirit alive

 

[brainspeak]

Yes, You really need that..... and just join the sardars resinding in Rajender Nagar and Tilak Nagar...

All the best !!!

O! the all knowledgeble one...keep showing the light to us lesser mortals for u r the chosen one....thnx!!

 

[shobhitdeshwal]

thnx for enlightening me....tomorrow itself i will enroll into a phd programme on asli sardars nd another one on nakli sardars....moreover i plan to buy a turban nd false beard...so as to get the right feel....

Bhai eik hi PhD join kar liye... Usme hi pata chal jaayega!!!

Balki main to kehta hun tu tution le le.... Vijay Bhai se... Yo ap batadega asli nakli sardron ke baare me tanne!!! Arr hor bhi kimme samjha dega!!

Ib thyawas raakh madi si haan datt ja!!

Cheers!!

Shobhit Deshwal.

 

[itsnavin]

neelam ji.....sardar to asli jindagi mein bhi item hi hain....
jokes aur movies mein kuch galat nahin batate!!!....

Not true at all. You can generalize the brains of a community. Go and get some sikh friends then u'll realize. Infact, they are always full of energy and can turn out to be a "friend in need"...BUT beware of some clever BHAPA sikhs..