Kitni himmat ho gai haan ajj musalmaano ki....?

[sandeepkadian05]

Sunil bhai just dont keep any prejudices in your mind while judging a whole religion. Terrorism has to be dealt with in the strongest possible means. But in our minds we should be dealing with terrorism, not with muslims.

 

[brahmtewatia]

Sunil bhai just dont keep any prejudices in your mind while judging a whole religion. Terrorism has to be dealt with in the strongest possible means. But in our minds we should be dealing with terrorism, not with muslims.

PTI reports
The Jamia Millia Islamia University would provide legal aid to two suspended students who have been arrested by Delhi Police for being allegedly involved in the serial blasts in the capital. “Legal aid would be provided till they are not found guilty,” varsity spokesperson Rakshanda Jaleel on Tuesday said.

DEAL NOW... PLEASE DO IT IN STRONGEST POSSIBLE MEANS.

can anyone cum out and raise your concern on abv news listing... this is wat i call as "breeding terrorism"

 

[vijay]

PTI reports
The Jamia Millia Islamia University would provide legal aid to two suspended students who have been arrested by Delhi Police for being allegedly involved in the serial blasts in the capital. “Legal aid would be provided till they are not found guilty,” varsity spokesperson Rakshanda Jaleel on Tuesday said.

I am not amazed at all to read this news as its happening in India since long.

Terrorism Breeding Institutions are the most happening industry directly funded by our own Great Secularism. Being Muslim only seems the primary eligibility to get admisssion in these institutions.

Most of the countries are trying to save their Nation from this industry while we are busy in providing STZ ( Special Terrorism Zone ) to those budding professionals at the stake of our country.

Please let them flourish as we are the only one true messengers of Secularism all across the world.

 

[bhavnasingh20]

Jitender,

Though your question is addressed to Sandeep, I would like to put in a few points here.

As to your question of what the non-muslims should do, I am not sure about others, but at least the Hindus need to be proud of their faith and accord due respect to their faith and the followers of their faith. It is a common practice these days - in case you (Hindu) want to project yourself as liberated/member of the so-called intelligentsia brigade, you need to criticise and belittle your own faith. The media of this country is playing a key role in this glorified endeavour of Hindu bashing (there are numerous instances to prove it, but I am sure this is not the thread to enumerate them). If you don't respect your own faith, community, heritage, traditions, please don't expect people of other faiths, communities, heritages, traditions to do it for you.

Today, Pujaris have been beaten up for playing meditational music over loudspeakers, tomorrow Hindus taking out marriage or religious processions would be beaten up because the NOISE created might not sound soothing to muslim ears. And who knows, tomorrow they may even object to and BAN completely the bursting of crackers on Diwali or using colours during Holi as it might be un-islamic.

There are other imperative measures also which the Hindus/non-muslims need to take in order to counter the challenges posed by the acts of Islamic fanatics, but I guess they would appear too radical to some of the people who are comfortably ignoring at least till now the writing on the wall. These imperative measures will need to be taken at some later point in time, though the only hope is that it is should not be too late for those measures by then.

The only question is how many more bomb blasts need to happen and how Many Inspector Sharma's need to give up their lives for this country before the common man in general and Hindus in particular wake up to the reality - the reality which we all know but shy away from accepting and expressing.

i so agree wit u....
n whether v admit it or not...but v r biased against muslims....n v think twice before makin frends wit ne muslims.....
n nobody goes out n beats someone up at the 1st instance....considering how pandits r...m sure he must hav thrown his attitude arnd n told the muslims to get lost when they wud hav gone to protest against it...

everywhr v jats r famous for fighting...so r v always right when v beat someone up??
or if a group of hindus wud hav beaten this pandit then wud v b havin this discussion here??
so in short...a hindu can beat a hindu...can kill him too...but a muslim shudnt even touch a hindu irrespective of whether hes right or wrong?

 

[prashantacmet]

JL is full of pseudo-secularists !!!.:tamatar.......May God save JL as well as India from these pseudo-secularists...........

 

[vijay]

i so agree wit u....
n whether v admit it or not...but v r biased against muslims....n v think twice before makin frends wit ne muslims.....
n nobody goes out n beats someone up at the 1st instance....considering how pandits r...m sure he must hav thrown his attitude arnd n told the muslims to get lost when they wud hav gone to protest against it...

everywhr v jats r famous for fighting...so r v always right when v beat someone up??
or if a group of hindus wud hav beaten this pandit then wud v b havin this discussion here??
so in short...a hindu can beat a hindu...can kill him too...but a muslim shudnt even touch a hindu irrespective of whether hes right or wrong?

I wonder if you have read the whole post ( whose post you quoted especially ) before agreeing on what he said

He is saying something else which is contrary to the views you posted.

 

[skadian123]

MIRAGE (Mrig Trishna)

I don't blame people when they just want to see the good things around. It's all a matter of perception which is formed by certain incidents. We see all good things happening around and we think everything is hunky dory. We see bad things happening around and we think things are not in good shape and something needs to be done about them.

But what happens, when good things just don't happen around any longer and we still complacenty sit thinking that no matter what, the bad things/incidents won't touch us at all and we don't need to do anything about anything.

We have made an issue about the use of loudspeaker, but unfortunately we have'nt gone into the deeper implications that this incident has on our present and future as a community which Rajeev Tomar could see and that became the reason for him to weave this thread.

We, the world community in general and the Hindus in particular, are wandering with limited precious water with us in a desert of religious crime, insecurity, religious bigotry spread and sustained by one particular community. Not to blame anyone in particular, we have amongst us fellow community members who see at a distance a mirage (mrig trishna) with lot of greenery and water. In jubiliation and celebration, these fellow members start celebrating by throwing around the precious water with them. When the reach the point where they saw the mirage, they realise that the green patch of heaven has shifted some distance ahead. They rejoice everytime they see the mirage till the time the entire water with them is squandered. Everyone's lips and throats are parched and dry in the need of just a single drop of water. Yet, they keep seeing that mirage ahead which keeps shifting ahead every time. Gradually their fellow members start falling prey to the blistering heat and the vultures overhead. And just when the desert's endpoint bordering with the savana is reached, their leader turns around to look at his fellow members behind only to see no one behind as all had fallen prey not to the heat but to the mirage.

Moral of the story, don't waste the precious water of foresight, wisdom and practicality when you see the mirage of communal brotherhood and tolerance, equality and above all peace. Because if you waste this precious water the heat of terrorist attacks, Islamic fanaticism, Islamic intolerance etc. would not leave any opportunity for you to even survive.

We have people here who are criticizing the use of loudspeakers, but I would have appreciated them if they would have criticized the non-implementation of Uniform Civil Code, Reservation on religious lines (5% reservation to muslims in Andhra Pradesh), illegal and unofficial pardon to Afzal Guru, etc. But I guess, they prefer to see the mirage....

 

[narendersingh]

Baat mein dumm hai

Jat is above all cast and creed.Jat is a jat .He may be anywhere in the world.

I know, thats why I always advocate that Jat is a Race not a merely Caste or Creed!! ... as for Muslim Jats I believe they'll be more secular n less fanatic religious like hindu Jats... thats why I wrote that!!

 

[narendersingh]

kaum key liye utaro kharey

I agree on the views and points engrossed by you. We should not blame anyone.we should shed this habit.God has given a calculated life Do some good.
"Kar jao aisaa koi kaam jamanaa yaad kare.
Jamanaa yaad karey naa karey tu karam sey kyo darey
aisey kyu ghoot ghoot kar marey
kaath bhee dariyaa par tarey
Aapas mein kyo katey marey
Kaum key liye uttaro eik dum kharey

Yaad kare sarey jarey jarey."

I don't blame people when they just want to see the good things around. It's all a matter of perception which is formed by certain incidents. We see all good things happening around and we think everything is hunky dory. We see bad things happening around and we think things are not in good shape and something needs to be done about them.

But what happens, when good things just don't happen around any longer and we still complacenty sit thinking that no matter what, the bad things/incidents won't touch us at all and we don't need to do anything about anything.

We have made an issue about the use of loudspeaker, but unfortunately we have'nt gone into the deeper implications that this incident has on our present and future as a community which Rajeev Tomar could see and that became the reason for him to weave this thread.

We, the world community in general and the Hindus in particular, are wandering with limited precious water with us in a desert of religious crime, insecurity, religious bigotry spread and sustained by one particular community. Not to blame anyone in particular, we have amongst us fellow community members who see at a distance a mirage (mrig trishna) with lot of greenery and water. In jubiliation and celebration, these fellow members start celebrating by throwing around the precious water with them. When the reach the point where they saw the mirage, they realise that the green patch of heaven has shifted some distance ahead. They rejoice everytime they see the mirage till the time the entire water with them is squandered. Everyone's lips and throats are parched and dry in the need of just a single drop of water. Yet, they keep seeing that mirage ahead which keeps shifting ahead every time. Gradually their fellow members start falling prey to the blistering heat and the vultures overhead. And just when the desert's endpoint bordering with the savana is reached, their leader turns around to look at his fellow members behind only to see no one behind as all had fallen prey not to the heat but to the mirage.

Moral of the story, don't waste the precious water of foresight, wisdom and practicality when you see the mirage of communal brotherhood and tolerance, equality and above all peace. Because if you waste this precious water the heat of terrorist attacks, Islamic fanaticism, Islamic intolerance etc. would not leave any opportunity for you to even survive.

We have people here who are criticizing the use of loudspeakers, but I would have appreciated them if they would have criticized the non-implementation of Uniform Civil Code, Reservation on religious lines (5% reservation to muslims in Andhra Pradesh), illegal and unofficial pardon to Afzal Guru, etc. But I guess, they prefer to see the mirage....

 

[bhavnasingh20]

I wonder if you have read the whole post ( whose post you quoted especially ) before agreeing on what he said

He is saying something else which is contrary to the views you posted.

yes i had read the whole post.....
n agreed wit the few points he made....especially the one tht says tht v r biased.....
n rest all the views r mine......

 

[rajpaldular]

India need a Leader like Narendra Modi‏

India need a Leader like Narendra Modi‏



Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.


Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'


'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'


'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'


'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'


'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'


'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'


'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'


Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Indian citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.

 

[dahiyasaab]

Why we feel insecure ?

Mein yahan per specific nahi hona chahta, but itna kehna chahta hun k hum bahut jaldi insecure feel karne lagte hain, agar koi reservation maangta hain toh maangey why we worry about that ? Humein apne aapko aur apni community ko itna strong banana chahiye ki hum reservation dene wale baney, na ki lene wale !!! I hope some of you will understand... kuch nahi rakha hindutava & all other religious things ko lekar ladney mein !

Yaad rakho unke pass kuch nahi hain aur hamarein pass abhi bhi bahut kuch hain & we can make ourselves more stronger to the changes, privartan sansar ka niyam hain, all things will change sooner or later we need to make ourselves strong enough to undergo that change, Raj Thackrey banney se kuch nahi hoga galiyan hi milegi, dussron se bhi aur apno se bhi...

Aaj jarurat hain humey aane wale kal ko dekhney ki aur apni community ko uske liye tyaar karne ki ! I have seen so many threads here in jatland, sabko combine karke dekho hamari (60%) mentality aaj bhi wohi hain. Hum itne padhe-likhey uska kuch fayda toh apni community ko dein.

Humaare Gandhi Baba & other politicians ney jo ush samay galti ki woh humein bhugtani padegi (infact bhugat rahe hain), aur ab tak toh shayad humein aisi galtiyon k saath jina bhi seekh lena chahiye kyunki politician yeh galati karte rehte hain uar karte rehengey, votes k chakkar mein they will give every reservation kyunki unke liye minority k vote major hain bcoz majority toh unko aankh bandh karke vote karti hain !

 

[gaganjat]

I hate the title of this thread ' kitni himmat ho gayi haan aaj musalmano ki..?'

discuss the point why do want to adress the whole community or use words like muslim terrorists

 

[narenderkharb]

I hate the title of this thread ' kitni himmat ho gayi haan aaj musalmano ki..?'

discuss the point why do want to adress the whole community or use words like muslim terrorists

same here.

 

[bhupinder]

What about Musalman?

MusalMan - Jiska Iman hai jo aapne wayade ka pakaa hai aur jo marna pasand karega per aapne Imaan ko ganda nahi hone dega. Wo hi ek saacha muslmaan hai.

Agar aap dheko tau kuch percent Muslmaan hai jo muslmaano ko badnaam kar rahe aur unko bhadkaane ka kaam karte hai aur aise log muslmaano mai kewal 10% hi hai. Aur wo gande log hai jo bhole bhale logo ko bhadkana chate hai kewal ek kaum ki taraf.

Baaki 90% percent musaalmaan sache hai aur aapni mehant ki roti khaate hai. Isliyee Mai yeh khena chaata hoon ki kuch Gande logo ki wajah se saari kaum ko badnaam mat karo.

Agar hum aapne charoo taraf dekhe tau hum ko yeh milega ki jadatar muslmaan mehant karke aapna gujar basar kar rahe hai.

Humari ladai kewal 10% percent logo se hai aur wo koi bhi ho sakte hai. Jaroori nahi ki wo Musalmaan hi ho. Aur yeh 10% log aapko her community mai mil jaayenge.

Think & speak

Bhupendra

 

[rstewatia]

ooye UP ke Badmass..........tajhe ke kuch keh rahe the musalman..........tu apna chupchap reh.............jaha tajhe rahjani karni hai tu vahi kar...........jaha jeb katni hai vahi kat..........kal to khub jeb tarasi hogi bhudhane main.........jab jaam lag raha tha..........jhokhi thadi bannali................

Hi vipin ,
Aap jitni badtamiji se pesh aaye hai Rajeev tomar k saath , mujhe achcha nai laga,rajeev has simply portrayed his views,I think there is nothing wrong in it,
I m not in for or against of the mandir wali ghatna,i dont want to comment on dat , all dat was bloody politics

Humne sabko hamesha gale se lagaya hai yaha tak ki hamara president bhi muslim hai,we are very much secular,so u dont worry about dat

hum sabko is sahi nazar se dekhe aur phir unhi me se koi dhokha de, bum fode,nirdosh logo ka khoon bahaye to tab bhi aap yahi kahenge,

C'mon yaar we should atleast give a thought to Rajeev's views

Aur jaisa ki jitender bhai ne bataya, wo problem maine bhi face ki hai,

Hum jab apne gaon me padhte the to ye problem humne bhi face ki thi ,
My father used to wake me up 4:00 am in the morning daily,aur udhar mandir ka loudspeaker shuru ho jata tha,

kai baar hamne bola lekin mandir k pujari k saath kuch gaam k nashedi bhi waha jama hota the, jo nasha kark er bas wahi pade rehe the
er baat sun k raji nai,