Let us try to Understand what Religion is

धार्मिक किताबों में की लिखा हुआ है इस से ज्यादा महत्वपूर्ण ये है की धर्म क्या करता है और धार्मिक लोग क्या करते है ??अगर किताबों करे तो भारत एक सोशलिस्ट देश है, पर हकीकत में प्योर कैपिटलिस्ट है, उदारीकरण के बाद तो समाजवाद बिलकुल ख़त्म हो गया , ना ही हम धरम को डिफाइन कर सकते , धर्म को डिफाइन करना है तो बस ये देखना पड़ेगा की धार्मिक लोग क्या करते है, ,,,,,,
 
abhisheklakda said:
धार्मिक किताबों में की लिखा हुआ है इस से ज्यादा महत्वपूर्ण ये है की धर्म क्या करता है और धार्मिक लोग क्या करते है ??अगर किताबों करे तो भारत एक सोशलिस्ट देश है, पर हकीकत में प्योर कैपिटलिस्ट है, उदारीकरण के बाद तो समाजवाद बिलकुल ख़त्म हो गया , ना ही हम धरम को डिफाइन कर सकते , धर्म को डिफाइन करना है तो बस ये देखना पड़ेगा की धार्मिक लोग क्या करते है, ,,,,,,
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Aap ke vichar se dharam ki kya pribhasha hai !
 
KARAM HI DHARAM HAI, Hindu, muslim, christian etc are not religion, they are social organisations and by the way real aim of these organisations is also to improve karam, also religion means duty, so dear above definition is correct, regards
 
Fateh said:
KARAM HI DHARAM HAI, Hindu, muslim, christian etc are not religion, they are social organisations and by the way real aim of these organisations is also to improve karam, also religion means duty, so dear above definition is correct, regards
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Yes, it says in a nutshell.Another way of saying that is 'Dharma is totality of one's conduct accepted generally by society to be orderly and worthy of praise i.e. which can sustain you.On a formal plain let us recall Manu (VI.92), who sets out ten aspects of Dharma:dhriti (fortitude), kshamaa, damah, asteyam (not stealing), shaucham (cleanliness), indriya-nigraha, dhih (intellect), vidyaa ( aatmajnana), satyam, akrodhah -dasha dharma-lakshanam.Dharma is generally translated as 'religion'. But it means much beyond religion which generally accepted as a method of relating to some God or unknown supreme power. Dharma has that as one aspect only. We can say in simple words 'a way of life'.
 
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HUMAN behavior and his psychology to understand the surrounding; visible/non visible things also his curiosity to decode his thoughts and feelings gave us the shape of present date social setup including many other things like science, technology, philosophy and so on.I think religion is part of the philosophy that belongs to humans self feelings, control of nature etc. With the passage of time different philosophies evolved at different places. General human were subjected to believe the nearest available philosophy. At later times these philosophical groups became religious groups. Probably every human in world is believer part of one such group. This gives us identity as Hindu, Muslim and Christian etc. Hindu Philosophy is the compound of most complicated and overlapped numerous philosophies that sometimes contradict one another.ThanksRKhatkar
 
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drssrana2003 said:
Yes, it says in a nutshell.Another way of saying that is 'Dharma is totality of one's conduct accepted generally by society to be orderly and worthy of praise i.e. which can sustain you.On a formal plain let us recall Manu (VI.92), who sets out ten aspects of Dharma:dhriti (fortitude), kshamaa, damah, asteyam (not stealing), shaucham (cleanliness), indriya-nigraha, dhih (intellect), vidyaa ( aatmajnana), satyam, akrodhah -dasha dharma-lakshanam.Dharma is generally translated as 'religion'. But it means much beyond religion which generally accepted as a method of relating to some God or unknown supreme power. Dharma has that as one aspect only. We can say in simple words 'a way of life'.
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Now in these days most in society like wrong deeds
 
Religion is nothing but KARMA, A DUTY, CONDUCT, BEHAVIOR, DISCIPLINE ETC, Hindu, muslim, sikh etc are not religion but social organisations and aim of these organisations is to improve karma,duty, conduct, behavior, discipline etc as per thinking of person/s who started these organisations, later aims and rules of these organisations were kept on changing/influenced by the thinking of people in power/majority demand , these social organisations are way of life in a particular society these organisations have laid down various guide lines to do various acts/works in their society, I have submitted in brief, hope you will understand my view point. regards
 
Most religions of the world largely agree on the elements like KARMA, DUTY, CONDUCT etc. enumerated above. But they choose to go beyond that. Thereafter there is difference of approach on matters of relationship of individuals with the supposed almighty, the method of worshiping,the role of intermediaries like priests, form and nature of the respective almighty, the concept and authority of holy books, concept and form of the other world like heaven, the origin of the universe itself. I would think that religions are quite disparate and dissimilar in many ways from one another. As far as Hinduism is concerned we can say that it is an umbrella religion, providing opportunities for a wide range of believers subscribing to a wide variety of practices and beliefs based on the Indian traditions continuing in a liberal fashion since ages. Here the term religion falls short of the apt description. one may like to call it Dharma.
 
In some religion it is culture issue , people attach the local culture to religion , like dress, language . In some cases in medieval period the religion was used to capture the another area and the suppressed the people of captured area as happened in India , Mughal captured India using religious war concept, It created the enmity between religions.
drssrana2003 said:
Most religions of the world largely agree on the elements like KARMA, DUTY, CONDUCT etc. enumerated above. But they choose to go beyond that. Thereafter there is difference of approach on matters of relationship of individuals with the supposed almighty, the method of worshiping,the role of intermediaries like priests, form and nature of the respective almighty, the concept and authority of holy books, concept and form of the other world like heaven, the origin of the universe itself. I would think that religions are quite disparate and dissimilar in many ways from one another. As far as Hinduism is concerned we can say that it is an umbrella religion, providing opportunities for a wide range of believers subscribing to a wide variety of practices and beliefs based on the Indian traditions continuing in a liberal fashion since ages. Here the term religion falls short of the apt description. one may like to call it Dharma.
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Religion is something which teaches you humanity and gives you enough patience to accept faith of others. But sad truth it Religion has done more damage to humans than anything else.
 
What we call religions are not religion, these are social organisations, also they have no connection with super power/god, initially aim of these social organisations was to improve karma but later on all have been captured by selfish people and today these have become business centers/extortion centers/exploiting centers/ weapon to divide the society/ illegal governing centers. Through out the world, contractors of so called religions are most deadly criminals, having strong weakness of wealth, wine and woman, they take help from weak, criminals, uneducated, higher ups, exploit sentiments, take help of music, wrong happenings, etc. I feel the more we keep our self away from these people batter will be our state/condition
 
Fateh said:
What we call religions are not religion, these are social organisations, also they have no connection with super power/god, initially aim of these social organisations was to improve karma but later on all have been captured by selfish people and today these have become business centers/extortion centers/exploiting centers/ weapon to divide the society/ illegal governing centers. Through out the world, contractors of so called religions are most deadly criminals, having strong weakness of wealth, wine and woman, they take help from weak, criminals, uneducated, higher ups, exploit sentiments, take help of music, wrong happenings, etc. I feel the more we keep our self away from these people batter will be our state/condition
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Sir ji, educated people also believe in religion. It is a quest and unknown factor which leads people to believe in a super power. we are bound to so much uncertainty around us which lead us to believe in God. But some so called religious preachers use this as an opportunity to cash on. This business will continue like this. Propaganda will dominate for a while I guess.
 
Hi Jatt Brethren,

Here is I am explaining religion from the very basic and if someone would criticise me, I would much appreciate. Anyone could help me with technical help and finding a Publisher, would be much appreciated.

I am revising my Book, FIRST GNOSTIC PRINCIPLES OF ONE GOD ONE FAITH that would answers most of your inquiries and if you are interested in lending your helping hand and skill in any FORM, I would appreciate.
I put my chapters on my website as I write and make Youtube Videos to explain them well. Here are the links to my chapters:-
http://www.nijjhar.webspace.virginmedia.com/chapter1.htm
Replace 1 with 2, 3, 4, etc. to get other chapters. There are supporting Youtube Videos – channel nijjhar1 - explaining the chapters in details.
Chapter 4 deals with the 12 Labourers of Jesus. They were not Disciples and they had nothing to do with the 12 tribes of Israel.
There are many corruptions in the old and the New Testament. Here is an example of what you will expect from my Book:-
POWER OF HOLY SPIRIT
There are two spirits; erring spirit of Man called “common sense” that forms the basis of Oral Torah, the root of the moral laws that apply to Flesh or our physical body in Nature to discipline the once-born natural man and the Non-Erring Spirit of God that applies to our supernatural spiritual self-soul. Thus, Rabbis have Disciples whilst the twice-born of Spirit are the Labouring sons of God. Or we have no Disciples in Christ Jesus.
Spirit of Man is nothing else but “common sense”; when used for humanitarian causes then it is called “holy spirit” of God, the son of Most High but when used for the evil purposes, then it is called “evil spirit” of Satan, the Devils – John 8v44. During the Passover, the Rabbi used to present himself to our Father God for forgiveness of mistakes that he might have committed during the year.
Thus, the name of Jesus in Hebrew is called YeShua or YeShiva in which:-
Ye = Yahweh, Brahma, Khudah, etc., the demiurge god of Nature and
Shua or Shiva = Adam, our Forefather in flesh as God is our Supernatural Father in spirit.
Thus, Jesus stands for the First Born of Yahweh, the Second Adam with no place to rest his head or He came as a “Floating Adam” and left us with no mark on earth. Mary was the Surrogate Mother whilst Joseph, the Foster father. Jesus could not marry and produce children for the second Adam. Jesus had many solitary Virgin spiritual Wives, the Apostles, Who Preached Gospel in His honour.
John, the Baptist, the First Prophet Elijah, Angel of Israel baptised Jesus in the name of “Yahweh”; whilst He baptised the Jewish men in the name of Abraham. He did not baptise a woman or a Gentile. Do you know why?
Whereas the Holy Spirit of God is His Very Spirit that He bestows upon His Sons to represent Him on earth. Thus, both John, the Baptist and Christ Jesus possessed that very Spirit of God right from their conceptions and they were the Cousins that were jumping with Joy when their mothers Mary and Elizabeth met.
Thus, Christ stands for His Word that was in the beginning and is forever; never born and He never died but Jesus. Jesus was born, lived among us and He Preached Gospel with the Power of Christ in His Heart and showed us the Way to Resurrection through Lazarus, a Friend of Jesus for his compatibility in Preaching Gospel.
Thus, Adam is our natural father whilst God is our Supernatural Father controlling the demiurge Yahweh and his Nature at large. This Jesus showed us through the Miracles performed in the name of our Supernatural Father God.
Truly blessed are those in whose heart, our Father has planted His “seed” holy spirit = common sense. In God, you have the Freewill to use or misuse it.
In short, the demiurge god of Nature is called Yahweh = Brahma = Khudah, etc.
Whilst our Supernatural Real Father God is called Elohim = ParBrahm = Allah, etc.
Youtube Video:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia2I7rKE9lY&feature=youtu.be
For detailed expositions, watch my over 4500 Youtube Videos; channel nijjhar1.




DrRajpalSingh said:
Thanks Friend. Members are requested to join discussion first about the meaning of the word Dharma/religion and simultaneously contribute to find out historic journey of development and growth of religion through the ages.
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nijjhar said:
Hi Jatt Brethren,

Here is I am explaining religion from the very basic and if someone would criticise me, I would much appreciate. Anyone could help me with technical help and finding a Publisher, would be much appreciated.

I am revising my Book, FIRST GNOSTIC PRINCIPLES OF ONE GOD ONE FAITH that would answers most of your inquiries and if you are interested in lending your helping hand and skill in any FORM, I would appreciate.
I put my chapters on my website as I write and make Youtube Videos to explain them well. Here are the links to my chapters:-
http://www.nijjhar.webspace.virginmedia.com/chapter1.htm
Replace 1 with 2, 3, 4, etc. to get other chapters. There are supporting Youtube Videos – channel nijjhar1 - explaining the chapters in details.
Chapter 4 deals with the 12 Labourers of Jesus. They were not Disciples and they had nothing to do with the 12 tribes of Israel.
There are many corruptions in the old and the New Testament. Here is an example of what you will expect from my Book:-
POWER OF HOLY SPIRIT
There are two spirits; erring spirit of Man called “common sense” that forms the basis of Oral Torah, the root of the moral laws that apply to Flesh or our physical body in Nature to discipline the once-born natural man and the Non-Erring Spirit of God that applies to our supernatural spiritual self-soul. Thus, Rabbis have Disciples whilst the twice-born of Spirit are the Labouring sons of God. Or we have no Disciples in Christ Jesus.
Spirit of Man is nothing else but “common sense”; when used for humanitarian causes then it is called “holy spirit” of God, the son of Most High but when used for the evil purposes, then it is called “evil spirit” of Satan, the Devils – John 8v44. During the Passover, the Rabbi used to present himself to our Father God for forgiveness of mistakes that he might have committed during the year.
Thus, the name of Jesus in Hebrew is called YeShua or YeShiva in which:-
Ye = Yahweh, Brahma, Khudah, etc., the demiurge god of Nature and
Shua or Shiva = Adam, our Forefather in flesh as God is our Supernatural Father in spirit.
Thus, Jesus stands for the First Born of Yahweh, the Second Adam with no place to rest his head or He came as a “Floating Adam” and left us with no mark on earth. Mary was the Surrogate Mother whilst Joseph, the Foster father. Jesus could not marry and produce children for the second Adam. Jesus had many solitary Virgin spiritual Wives, the Apostles, Who Preached Gospel in His honour.
John, the Baptist, the First Prophet Elijah, Angel of Israel baptised Jesus in the name of “Yahweh”; whilst He baptised the Jewish men in the name of Abraham. He did not baptise a woman or a Gentile. Do you know why?
Whereas the Holy Spirit of God is His Very Spirit that He bestows upon His Sons to represent Him on earth. Thus, both John, the Baptist and Christ Jesus possessed that very Spirit of God right from their conceptions and they were the Cousins that were jumping with Joy when their mothers Mary and Elizabeth met.
Thus, Christ stands for His Word that was in the beginning and is forever; never born and He never died but Jesus. Jesus was born, lived among us and He Preached Gospel with the Power of Christ in His Heart and showed us the Way to Resurrection through Lazarus, a Friend of Jesus for his compatibility in Preaching Gospel.
Thus, Adam is our natural father whilst God is our Supernatural Father controlling the demiurge Yahweh and his Nature at large. This Jesus showed us through the Miracles performed in the name of our Supernatural Father God.
Truly blessed are those in whose heart, our Father has planted His “seed” holy spirit = common sense. In God, you have the Freewill to use or misuse it.
In short, the demiurge god of Nature is called Yahweh = Brahma = Khudah, etc.
Whilst our Supernatural Real Father God is called Elohim = ParBrahm = Allah, etc.
Youtube Video:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia2I7rKE9lY&feature=youtu.be
For detailed expositions, watch my over 4500 Youtube Videos; channel nijjhar1.[/QUOTE


Mr Nijjar, firstly-God {earth, sky, air, fire and water} these five elements are real God and second God is your parents, rest all others whom the world consider God are only DEVTAS NOT GOD SECONDLY THE POWER IS INSIDE, VARIOUS SO CALLED RELIGIOUS PRACTICES DO HLEP IN CONCENTRATING AND CREATING FAITH WHICH GIVES POWER. Religion-- is nothing but karma, regards Col Fateh singh [ retd ]
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what religion is !

After 38 years of experience in life I have come to feel that:(dharam is more appropriate word than religion)to know one's nature by using any methodology(gyanyog, dhyanyog, bhakti, tantra etc. etc) is dharam. (one's nature is called its dharam)
 
Brother, Rajpal after initiating the discussion, you have gone under water in deep sea, hope you are well and comfortable
 
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