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I am alone but not lonely,with so much to do, I Write and Paint and a visit to Jatland at least once a day.I find that I am short of time.However ,I think a number of us, the visitors to the forums are not only alone but also lonely, and find some solace here, to that extent a very good service.It is essential for each one to find a way to over come one's loneliness, being alone is OK and one can live with it.

BLS31
 
Sir

Don't think yourself as alone, atleast I am with you. We all respect you like an elder of the family and I has already decided to pay you a visit whenever I came back to India. You are a source of inspiration to atleast me in many ways.

regards and love

Rajesh
 
Thanks for the sentiments expressed . you are welcome. take my 'loneliness' as the privilege of a writer, It was a message to those who are not only alone but also lonely, It would be nice to meet you when you visit India, incidentally, things are not that bad, with a daughter in New York, 45 mts of tele-talk,e mail, every week, son in Delhi, brothers in Dehradun and friends in Noida. best Big lakshman
 
rajeshrathee said:
Sir

Don't think yourself as alone, atleast I am with you. We all respect you like an elder of the family and I has already decided to pay you a visit whenever I came back to India. You are a source of inspiration to atleast me in many ways.

regards and love

Rajesh
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Me too there for you sir. How did you forget to me Raja Bhaiya?

With Love
Mahendra
 
bls31 said:
I am alone but not lonely,with so much to do, I Write and Paint and a visit to Jatland at least once a day.I find that I am short of time.However ,I think a number of us, the visitors to the forums are not only alone but also lonely, and find some solace here, to that extent a very good service.It is essential for each one to find a way to over come one's loneliness, being alone is OK and one can live with it.

BLS31
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Very true Sir, I think each one of us experience the same...We keep ourselves engaged in various activities so that we don't get time to understand how LONELY we are !! In other words, we try to run away from loneliness. That's the way life goes on !!


Regards,
 
loneliness

I didn't quite understand in what way you were using 'loneliness' when I first saw the post. But I see it again and see words like writer and privilege. I agree being a writer or for that matter involved in any creative pursuits is a very lonely exercise. I know because of our social settings (read family) we are not lonely. But deep down inside we are. At least I am. Let me explain.

However hard I try to explain my loved ones about my ideas, they still cannot understand them. They don't know my world as well as I do. So my friends although want to understand me and want to help me but, they can't. Ultimately I am alone there. The insipiration to create something comes and I am left alone to deal with it.

Almost anything worth doing in this world has a compelling path where one finds oneself alone. I read somewhere that the price of being a sheep is BOREDOM, while the price of being a wolf is LONELINESS. Choose what you want to be. And that has stuck with me since. Slowly like you said, I am getting used to the loneliness. Its not so bad. Sure I want to enjoy the chaos the world offers when I feel tired of my loneliness. It gives me matter to delve in my hibernation.

And when I read two lines written by a person like you, I immediatly feel a connection. So sir, all the best for your creative endeavours. I hope to read something written or painted by you that will be truly amazing. That will just blow my mind or move me like I have never been moved before. Or even if you don't end up with the next 'Old man and the sea' manuscript, your journey on your path alone will be satisfying to say the least.

Regards
 
Loneliness

Dear Friends,
I am overwhelmed by the response to the thread on loneliness,as also the love and affection shown to some one who was not known till a few months back, and even now he can be visualised more by what moves on the internet,rather than face to face.

After the sad demise on 30 October 2000 ,to fill my lonely hours , I started writing a book 'Letters from the Border and Other Less Told Stories' which took some time to take shape and i published it in 2003.
It the story of the Signal Section ,I was then commanding then as a Captain, during the Sino Indian conflict of 1962, the story unfolds through the letters I wrote to my wife in far away Dehradun with me at the Tri-Junction of India -Bhutan and Tibet, one a day. The book can be looked from different point views depending on the reader, A love story or history of the conflict or from the technical angle, in how the communication circuits and links were derived and operated with the type of equipment we had in the Indian Army at that time.
To give a feel of the book, since you all seems to appreciate what I write i have posted below some extracts from the Preface.
Enjoy
Love and best wishes from an old foggy brigadier. Lakshman Singh\

[FONT=&quot][/FONT] Preface

…This is a story of human endurance, team spirit, dedication and high morale, of initiative and expediency, of experimentation, of mutual faith and confidence at all levels ….

This narrative also focuses on the emotional and human dimensions in a conflict and does not stake any claim or pass any judgement, even by hind sight,……. The narrative follows the events as seen and experienced by the young eyes of a junior officer at that time.​
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The source material has been……, my sketchy diary, my own faded memory and finally the letters to my late wife Rosy, which she had saved and I found in her effects. I am not too sure that she would have allowed me this liberty if she was alive today. However, I feel the most creditable source of emotions and feelings experienced in any critical situation in life are the letters written at that time to some one really close.​
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[FONT=&quot]….. ‘The Story’ unfolds through the letters to my wife (I wrote to her daily or whenever I could, she as and when she wrote) therefore, it would be of relevance to highlight the significance of the format adopted. The purpose of including the extracts from the letters is not only to create the environment prior to and during that period, but also, more importantly, to bring out the feelings and mental conflict of a young officer, split vertically down mentally and emotionally. Living two separate lives day in and day out, torn between duty and pangs of separation from his young wife as also worries about his elderly parents……[FONT=&quot][/FONT][/FONT]​
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……I doubt if any soldier serving or retired would open his heart and innermost emotions in public by publishing his letters in any form. However, there was no other way I could have brought out the conflict between duty, responsibility and desire. The delicate balance between the pride in soldiering, under most adverse circumstances, and the constant worry about the welfare of the family back home, mental trauma of the wife, the small child who had started calling his photo as uncle’s, his sick mother and elderly father, old but proud of the fact that the son was on the border doing some thing important and necessary as demanded by his profession. ​
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One of the letters that my father had written to my wife during the period of the operations is ample testimony, if any is required, regarding the feelings back home and the nationalistic feelings prevailing in the country at that time​
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If the qualities required in a soldier, of being able to suppress his personal feelings and put the domestic problems on the back burner when duty demands get highlighted the purpose of this effort would have been amply served
 
bls31 said:
I am alone but not lonely,with so much to do, I Write and Paint and a visit to Jatland at least once a day.I find that I am short of time.However ,I think a number of us, the visitors to the forums are not only alone but also lonely, and find some solace here, to that extent a very good service.It is essential for each one to find a way to over come one's loneliness, being alone is OK and one can live with it.

BLS31
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Sir,

I read your comments and what you said about loneliness will hit cord with most of the human beings.

Chota moonh Badi Baat kay liye maafi chahoonga but I feel, in this pursuit of external happiness we have lost relationship with the "SELF" and have become spiritual bankkrupt, result is we live with this deep fear , which we try to overcome by outward activities.

And no external factor can fill that void, no matter how much we try....It will keep resurfacing.


Warm regards,

Deepak
 
manjeemalik said:
Very true Sir, I think each one of us experience the same...We keep ourselves engaged in various activities so that we don't get time to understand how LONELY we are !! In other words, we try to run away from loneliness. That's the way life goes on !!


Regards,
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Hi Manjeeta,

Very true...thats why most of us never feel fulfilled and joyous. There is always something missing.

Loneliness causes Deep rooted fears, which cannot be overcome by superficial actvities.

To cure any disease we need to cure the root cause and rest is taken care by itself.

Deepak
 
Alone but not lonely..Quite indifferent emotion, rooted deeply, sometime sweet, many times a expression of helplessnes, limitation of human's senses..ahh there is so much inside. Loneliness where beautiful shadows of pasts try to cover brightness of present and give an uncertain, unpredicatble future.

I think the person who had imagined a structure of society, must had thought a lot, about not to let any human being feel alone, lonely. Society, cultures, traditions are not for leaving us lonely and alone rather to protect us from these emotions.

In modern times, when boundaries of world are shrinking in social way, personly, human beings have also shrinked. A less to share, more to hide and a lot more pain to bear.

Spain, in the mid of previous century, people have sensed it quite earlier, and started a "ventilation-unburdening of soul" by coming on a stage n speaking whatever they have in their mind since years. Nice Idea. Unburdening Loneliness.
Brig I'm with you. Let words hit the posts.
 
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sumeetmalik said:
I didn't quite understand in what way you were using 'loneliness' when I first saw the post. But I see it again and see words like writer and privilege. I agree being a writer or for that matter involved in any creative pursuits is a very lonely exercise. I know because of our social settings (read family) we are not lonely. But deep down inside we are. At least I am. Let me explain.

However hard I try to explain my loved ones about my ideas, they still cannot understand them. They don't know my world as well as I do. So my friends although want to understand me and want to help me but, they can't. Ultimately I am alone there. The insipiration to create something comes and I am left alone to deal with it.

Almost anything worth doing in this world has a compelling path where one finds oneself alone. I read somewhere that the price of being a sheep is BOREDOM, while the price of being a wolf is LONELINESS. Choose what you want to be. And that has stuck with me since. Slowly like you said, I am getting used to the loneliness. Its not so bad. Sure I want to enjoy the chaos the world offers when I feel tired of my loneliness. It gives me matter to delve in my hibernation.

And when I read two lines written by a person like you, I immediatly feel a connection. So sir, all the best for your creative endeavours. I hope to read something written or painted by you that will be truly amazing. That will just blow my mind or move me like I have never been moved before. Or even if you don't end up with the next 'Old man and the sea' manuscript, your journey on your path alone will be satisfying to say the least.

Regards
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I guess you are talking about solitude not loneliness here, I like solitude too. I like to have my office (work and home office as well) doors closed just about all the time.
 
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Brigadier Uncle,

In contrast to the title of this thread, i would say or rather i believe that "A Person with a Glorious past as of yours and such a beautiful treasure of memories can't be lonely". To me, that is what precisely you meant to convey.

I agree with Amit when he equates the scenario to 'solitude' and not 'loneliness'. "ekantwaas srijanatamak hota hai"
Solitude is beautiful, productive and constructive where as 'lonelinesss' is self defeating and destuctive. More over most famoust creations (poetry, prose or scintific dicoveries) of the world were born in solitude.

So, uncle ji keep blessing and sharing 'those' beautiful thoughts!


Sateypal
 
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@Sateypal Deshwal & Amit Chillar

I looked up the words in dictionary after reading your posts. Yes you can replace my 'loneliness' with 'solitude' mainly because loneliness is defined as a situation or a period of time, sad and spent alone. So yes it has some negative connotations. While solitude is defined as a pleasant state of being alone.

But again I can't stopping myself in saying that not all creative endeavours are happy experiences. Any creative person will agree to that. Writers spend sleepness nights, poets take shelter of psychedelic substances, painters live in abject poverty, and so on. But they still would not do anything else with their lives. Sure some of them are bummers trying to run away from real life and job. But most want to create because they are unhappy with the present state of their life and world. They want to change that. And they think they can.
Gandhi did it, and so did Hitler.
Yet they were alone when they started. And very unhappy.

Just my two cents.


Regards,

Sumeet
 
alone but not loneliness

Respected Sir,

As suggested by you I read this thread and like your thoughts.

Sir, we all came alone in this world and will have to go alone. This life is the stay for sometime. This is the cycle of life and we shall have to face this.

But I am with you, Sir.

Best regards,

Bahadur Singh Sinsinwar
 
jagjit ki gazal ki ye lines
har taraf har jagah beshumar aadmi
fir bhi tanhaayio ka shikar aadmi

aur uncle ji ne bilkul theek kaha hai.ki akela hona behtar hai akelepan ki anhubhuti se...being alone is better than loneliness.
harvinash ji ki kuch lines yad aarahi hai.thik se to nahi par kuch aise hi thi.
ek din mane apni simriti ki imarat se
nikal kar fek diya tha sara saman
kar diya tha khud ko khali rikat shunay aur sunsan
par kahtae ha na
akelepan me bhi akarshan hota hai
riktata asakti jagati hai
aur sunapan awaj lagata hai
 
Ritu ji ye to manana hi padega ki, jab ek akela Vichron ke ghode par sawar,

dheeshaheen ho bhatak jaye,

tab aisa hone ka khatra to rehta hi jaise Kavi ne vayakat kiya hai, " ya to Insaan aasakti rupee dhaldhal mein phanshta chala jayega ya phir hawa ka shor bhi bhayavay lagne lagata hai"

So to win over the lonliness one has to be trained to control his/her thoughts.
One should know when and how to put brakes on the thought process.
 
lonelyness

sumeetmalik said:
I looked up the words in dictionary after reading your posts. Yes you can replace my 'loneliness' with 'solitude' mainly because loneliness is defined as a situation or a period of time, sad and spent alone. So yes it has some negative connotations. While solitude is defined as a pleasant state of being alone.

But again I can't stopping myself in saying that not all creative endeavours are happy experiences. Any creative person will agree to that. Writers spend sleepness nights, poets take shelter of psychedelic substances, painters live in abject poverty, and so on. But they still would not do anything else with their lives. Sure some of them are bummers trying to run away from real life and job. But most want to create because they are unhappy with the present state of their life and world. They want to change that. And they think they can.
Gandhi did it, and so did Hitler.
Yet they were alone when they started. And very unhappy.

Just my two cents.


Regards,

Sumeet
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Thanks for your analysis but as I sad I am neither lonely nor in solitude,
Life without your partner and friend of 42 years can never be pleasant,lonelyness can be countered by living a productive life which I am doing, Life is precous and have to be lived. Currently Writing 'The Story of My Life -Love Pain and Guilt' That is the message, Brig lakshman
 
@ Brig Lakshamn Ji

I agree with your message in this thread and in another that life is beautiful with a loving partner. I can't deny that. A beautiful meaningful relationship is really uplifting.

Looking forward to read your book.

Regards,

Sumeet
 
Lonelyiness

Thanks for the response, the book will take time, they do, in the mean time you can read my other book already published .

'Letters from the Border and Other Less told Stories'
The story of Sino India conflict of 1962 on the India Tibet and Bhutan
Trijunction, where I was involved as then ,a Captain the story unfolding through the letters I wrote to my young wife separated by 2000 Kms or so.
The conflict between Duty Responsibility and Desire has been brought out in graphic detail
Brig lakshman
 
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