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As basically we are farmers and most of us are still in farming. Lets discuss can we also have club of farmers on this site.

Club !!! Why ? : Could specifically target needs of farmers / suggestion from farmers ( Still in Farming) and discussions on investment, finance, international / domestic markets, products and services, future, demand queries, suggesting direct buyers MNC or others and .... allll ....

Rest there are more add on's directing +ve's to farmers and would prepare us (Farmers) before WTO and +vely questioning cash reap or leakage. Other Proff in this site could extend best of the products / services all free of cost to community.

Request seniors and members to suggest if all of us agree.. then offcourse we can request Nitin.

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Dhinendra
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though majority of jats are still farmers, today u can find jats in every other profession/business. We all need to interact with each other irrespective of our current profession and benifit from it. here are some examples I can think of: how many farmers have read and understood whats happening with WTO ? I beleive, a interaction between a farmer and a lawyer wud be more helpfull than with a "kissan neta".
How abt IT enabled farming ? and so on...

My suggestion is tha u post ur issues on this forum and get inputs from everyone.
 
Hi all,

We wants our jat develop themself in area of agriculture and other self employed small business.Because more that 60-70% our jat depend on agriculture.So we want that out jat will use new techniques in agriculture.So that their earning will increase.

I read a news is Rohtak Bhaskar that there is a person in Yamuna Nagar named "Mr.Dharamvir" he earned 6 lakh in few canal lands in one year.He is growing some medicine plants.Now he is flying by aeroplane from Delhi to Patna to give advice on his business.Six year back he was riding rikshaw in Chandi Chowk Delhi.I didn't get his address or contact no from Rohtak Bhaskar (Oct 19,2003).

Is there any jat from Yamuna Nager who knows Mr Dharamvir and can give the address of Mr.Dharam Vir to all Jat bhai on jatland?

Even if anybody who is in Bhaskar news paper can meet the bhasker editor(Rohtak Bhaskar Oct 19,2003). and can get all information s about Mr .Dharam Vir.

-Balraj Dahiya
 
Dear Mr. Dhinendra,
Well, we can discuss any subject on earth on this website. I don't think there is any need for a separate club for that. I am sure as the time goes you will find more response to your subject. What I would recommend that you post a specific subject matter and members will give their views on it. You will also have the option of contacting them individually. I did not do farming after I joined army and thus my views on farming per say may be obsolete, but surely if any aspect of farming that is known to me or I can find out, certainly, you are most welcome to contact me.
 
If I may be permitted to add a few thoughts.


One hundred or more years ago, agriculture was the prime source of wealth of a nation, and those who dominated it were rich.

That was the state of the Jats through the centuries, and through there Khaps, and Panchayats, they dominated the society.

This has now changed, and is changing rapidly day by day.

Agriculture is not the main means of production and wealth.

Today it is knowledge, industry, and business.

An educated Jat with no land, and having working in fields of engineering, Law, Chartered Accountancy, \Software, medicine, business, can make after 5 years of graduate education over $ 100,000.

On the other hand, the Jat framer is being reduced to poverty or less, where he cannot afford even the basic necessities of life, primary education for his children food, and medical treatment, or even to but a decent set of clothes.

My humble suggestion is that we need to look forward not back, and our concentration should be on educating our less fortunate Jat families who are mired in the poverty trap of a subsistence peasant’s life to get to a better stage.

If we do not they will become less than scheduled class in the two or 3 generations.

They will be reduced to going to the cities, to work as security gurads, truck cleaners, mazdoors, and their wives and daughters working as “Barthan Manjne walis”

Ravi Chaudhary
 
Whatever new and hi-tech inventions take place, farming and farmers will survive. Its only the way u produce food changes. Farmers too have to change with technology and invent new business models. U will find farmers from USA to afghanistan. Have look at this website from USA:
http://www.caff.org/

There are many other excellent sites on farming.
 
anil chaudhary (Oct 31, 2003 02:36 p.m.):
Whatever new and hi-tech inventions take place, farming and farmers will survive. Its only the way u produce food changes. Farmers too have to change with technology and invent new business models.
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Agreed.

How do you develop new business models if you are uneducated and cannot generate enough funds to feed , or educate your children?

With fragmentaion of landholdings,in all rural communities, something that should familiar to all on this forum, a plummetting of living standards is the reality today.

The revenue from the crop is barely enough, often not even enough, to cover the cost of production, let alone leave a surplus to educate the children assuming quality education is available in the immediate area( which more often than not it is not).

This only raises debt levels,till the family ends up homeless.

Anyome, just go back to your village, any village, and see for yourself.

Ravi
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I guess it depends on the village. The general standard of living is higher in villages in comparison to what it was a few decades ago. Those days crops relied on rain and if it did not rain there was suffering all around starting from cattle feed to Roti for the family. However now the situation is different. Even without rain farmers still manage to get reasonable crop. But one thing is sure farmers to-day are much unhappier than their fore fathers who did not have half as much as they do. Do you know why ?
 
Shubha Chand Sheorayan (Nov 01, 2003 01:13 a.m.):
I guess it depends on the village. The general standard of living is higher in villages in comparison to what it was a few decades ago. Those days crops relied on rain and if it did not rain there was suffering all around starting from cattle feed to Roti for the family. However now the situation is different. Even without rain farmers still manage to get reasonable crop. But one thing is sure farmers to-day are much unhappier than their fore fathers who did not have half as much as they do. Do you know why ?
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Shri Subha Chand Jee & dear Members,
Greetings!
I agree with Shree Subha Chand Jee and reasons behind this in my view are:
+Population blast - due to increased age in general and decreased death rates as a result of availability of medicine followed by uncontrolled birhrate plus the desire to have a male child. Its like red Kangaroo of Australia.
+The cost of farming has increased. It has turned into a full time job/12 months a year with the same uncertainity.
+The present education - which makes perfect clerks, cant find jobs due to stagnance but still not prepared to join the farming.
+The grasp of materialism in the rural setting.
+The promotion of the salaried job has made the present generation idle.
+Basic me raadaa : want everything free and to be done by govt. for them.
 
the problems faced by indian farmers is not unique. the same problem is faced by famers in rest of the world. Some faced the same problems a few decades back and found a solution and have progressed. india too have to find its own solution, but to do that farmers must first accept the fact that this problem has been created by him and not by god or govt..."the buck stops here".

Lack of education can only slow down the progress...not kill it. Todays plight is only bcos of stupidity, selfishness and indian social setting.
 
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