No Indian varsity among world's top 200 universities!!!

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http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/nov/12edu.htm

Brief - No Indian varsities, including the prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology, figure among world's top 200 universities this year while six Chinese universities were listed, signalling the rapid stride the Communist giant is making in higher education.

but what got my attention was the first comment i read there.... which is:

Why all of crying so much? Tell me first, is there any reservation facility in these top 200 universities? If yes then OK, feel shame and think if all universities has same criteria then why we are so behind from them. If NO then how can you think about quality education, when meritorious student with over 90% will sit outside and reserve student with less then 40% will get admission. Can you expect excellent output from our universities? THINK! THINK! THINK!

Makes sense... much sense:)
 
desijat said:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/nov/12edu.htm

Brief - No Indian varsities, including the prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology, figure among world's top 200 universities this year while six Chinese universities were listed, signalling the rapid stride the Communist giant is making in higher education.

but what got my attention was the first comment i read there.... which is:

Why all of crying so much? Tell me first, is there any reservation facility in these top 200 universities? If yes then OK, feel shame and think if all universities has same criteria then why we are so behind from them. If NO then how can you think about quality education, when meritorious student with over 90% will sit outside and reserve student with less then 40% will get admission. Can you expect excellent output from our universities? THINK! THINK! THINK!

Makes sense... much sense:)
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This is really an interesting article and I read the heated discussion board of rediff.

The fact is that this is reality. Let us accept it that the quality of education in India is deteriorating for so many odd reasons. Having friends who did their postgrads and research from IITD, I have learnet only one philosphy "
The secret of all success is to know how to deny yourself. Prove that you can control yourself, and you are an educated man; and without this all other education is good for nothing. by
 
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What i am looking here is a discussio, not on the survey but as to why Indian education system is so weak and what can we do to improve it.
 
desijat said:
What i am looking here is a discussio, not on the survey but as to why Indian education system is so weak and what can we do to improve it.
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There are Thousands of threads on this forum hghlighting the defficiencies of EDUCATION SYSTEM in INDIA....why waste time again and again.Tell us what are you doing to imrove things rather than involving us in discussion.Scan through the forums for inputs on the disease and start treating it.
 
devdahiya said:
There are Thousands of threads on this forum hghlighting the defficiencies of EDUCATION SYSTEM in INDIA....why waste time again and again.Tell us what are you doing to imrove things rather than involving us in discussion.Scan through the forums for inputs on the disease and start treating it.
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Well said Kaku!
 
Hello,
As per my Point of view every discussion brings a new thought,
we see so many new people around with new ideas to discuss and
ratings also change with time. No harm in having the discussions...:)
 
How i wish things would have remained the same forever... and we could just refer to one thread for one topic all the time.

Rightly said Manisha!!!

It is clearly visible how our IITs have degraded and now not even amongst top 200 universities of the world. We are talking about becoming the next superpower but our education system is degrading day by day.

The worry with India is that students after school(those who atleast pass 12th) either go for government colleges where quality of education is a concern(and limited seats) or they go for private education in private colleges, most of which are not even recognised. Such private colleges and universities are more about minting money and running the business.

We all are so proud of our IIMs but do we even know where do we stand globally?
 
desijat said:
How i wish things would have remained the same forever... and we could just refer to one thread for one topic all the time.

Rightly said Manisha!!!

It is clearly visible how our IITs have degraded and now not even amongst top 200 universities of the world. We are talking about becoming the next superpower but our education system is degrading day by day.

The worry with India is that students after school(those who atleast pass 12th) either go for government colleges where quality of education is a concern(and limited seats) or they go for private education in private colleges, most of which are not even recognised. Such private colleges and universities are more about minting money and running the business.

We all are so proud of our IIMs but do we even know where do we stand globally?
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IIMs?......how many people go to IIMs.......Do something to improve the basic-elementry education in the villagges where 90% of India dwells....problem lies there not with u and me.
 
maniisha said:
Hello,
As per my Point of view every discussion brings a new thought,
we see so many new people around with new ideas to discuss and
ratings also change with time. No harm in having the discussions...:)
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Manisha throw some light then.....say something which has not been already said......Let us hear from you.
 
To the latest of what i got to know, Indian Government is allowing 100% FDI in education sector in India which means we will soon have some more private players coming in India in education sector.. Good or bad, cant comment but surely it will give a competition to leading institutions in india and an alternate to students going out to study.
 
I would like to contribute certain points

Reservation in education should only be for physically challenged citizens and for those people who are below poverty line.

Employment of teachers and lecturers should focus onto some of the aspects like communication skill and knowledge. Both are very much important for the education as both aspects are complimenting each other.

Education should be given more visual effects rather than reading huge books.

The structure of education and exam pattern in the universities / boards should be universal for basic degrees or vocational degrees. (This now differs from east to west to north and to south).

The fees for a particular degree should be made equal. Special sanctions for the people who deserve to be educated for a particular degree but drop out for the reason being unaffordable.

Please do not take the following examples personally.

In science and technology, at the degree level, most of the Indian Universities lacks a correlation between theory and practical. (E.g. We study synthesis of cholesterol in 50 steps and cram up for the exam but we do not do it practically. Practically we do synthesis only maximum up to 4-5 steps , hardly doing any characterization to prove the synthesis).
At school level we start reading “Misr (Egypt) ki sabhyata”, history teachers never show to the students where exactly Egypt exists on the world map and little children develops their whims and fancies about a particular subject and cram it up with out understanding.

A comparison:

Ph.D scholar quite often becomes a slave for his/her supervisor for years together. In Indian scenario Ph.D degree is in the hands of supervisor rather than any Education policy (Japan gives a date of submission of thesis as soon as the student gets enrolled for Ph.D).

Scholar in India struggle for the results of his research at stake of technicians. (In South Africa, Master student individually handles machines worth of millions of dollars at the university / institute and is able to finish his research work in a week’s time).

I am sorry to say that the quality of research done by IIT or IISc is no exceptional. Check IIT / IISc (www.scopus.com). Go for the IMPACT FACTOR of the journal (google serach) in which these people publish.

Endless to compare and feel ashamed....
 
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