Obc

..[ Best method of teaching is by self example, please do it than preach, GIVE YOUR BACKGROUD, so that we can also see what a great child has taken birth in a jat family who is questioning his parents/elders. May I request you the great man, please leave me alone, I have no time, no intention, no interest, on , no capebility, no knowledge, no experience, no education, no position, infact I am nothing infront of you, please donot reply my post, these are not worth for you. If you want me to continue on jat forum, grant me this much please.God may gives you all good qualities of a good jat.

Fateh Singh Ji
first of all i would like to know why we cannot question our elders........then who will answer our queries......
i did not ask anything unreasonable.....but you are not compelled to answer ........
moreover it is also not possible that a senior or elder will always be true and will take the right decision..............
as far as my background is concerned then i have not much to say or show like you........i am even not a gold medalist and never become the become the president of any university........
i only did my B.Tech from a government college(NIT)......that only with 60%.......and after worked for few time with a private company.......and now i am completly unemployed(just preparing some students, not only jaat, from government schools around my village for Engineering Entrance Exams)........so i dont stand anywhere infront of you......thats it.....
but inspite of this, i have a vision for my community.......i dont want to fool my fellow jaats by taking them in any strikes...........
again it could be possible that i dont have much knowledge about reservation as compared to you, but atleast i undersatnd the consequences of reservation that you have never realized......
so please keep enlightened JAATLAND with your thinking......it need experienced member like you...........who are working for their community.......
I apologize in advance if again i hurt you....and this will be my last reply for you.........so dont worry......you will never face question like this......and keep on writting here.......
 
A person's worth in this world is estimated according to the value they put on themselves. Don't think too much on OBC status of JATs, work hard and conquer world like a real warrior !! and plz dont argue 'Live with integrity, respect other people and follow your heart'


Cheers !!!
 
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JAT's in delhi have elevated their standards by leaps and bounds. not because of their OBC status, but because of the education which the newer generation had access to... and all this was possible cos of their newly acquired rich status. the progress in future is going to be multi-fold, which is already apparent... take my words for that.

i would like to see the same status of JAT's in haryana, u.p. nd in rajasthan. they just need a beginning and that can be very much enhanced when one member in a family reaps the benefit from OBC tag... the chain will continue further.
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Wrong diagnosis leads to wrong treatment. Jats in Delhi first got the wealth, from land acquisition, from rental income, property dealing, etc. Basically from their ownership of land, but not from agriculture. Pursuit of education followed that wealth in most cases. They want their kids to speak in English, to go the best school in town; as these are considered as status symbols. Here, I am not talking about the few enlightened folks who have always pursued education- you can find such people in every state.
 
Wrong diagnosis leads to wrong treatment. Jats in Delhi first got the wealth, from land acquisition, from rental income, property dealing, etc. Basically from their ownership of land, but not from agriculture. Pursuit of education followed that wealth in most cases. They want their kids to speak in English, to go the best school in town; as these are considered as status symbols. Here, I am not talking about the few enlightened folks who have always pursued education- you can find such people in every state.
welcum back kapil !

if i am not mistaken, land acquisition by DDA in delhi of villages tht i mentioned in my previous post (namely
shahpurjat, munirka, lado sarai, nev sarai, katwariya sarai, chiragh dilli <<< all south delhi villages) took place in seventies. early seventies or late, i don't know. for an acre of land they hardly got 40,000 - 60,000. they applied for further compensation, some lucky ones got another 5-10k, or may be slightly more. this amount was just peanuts and hardly gave any financial worth, which was eventually spent within no time on other worldly affairs.

come early eighties, in all these villages that i mentioned, you could hardly see a double storeyed house. thing started changing in late eighties and early nineties when house rentals became a very profitable income. almost everybody constructed/renovated their houses to accommodate immigrants from outside states. the returns were manifold. further construction flourished in these villages (residential as well as commercial) and there was no looking back.

"pursuit of education followed wealth in most cases" <<< i also said so, in my previous post (refer below).

JAT's in delhi have elevated their standards by leaps and bounds. not because of their OBC status, but because of the education which the newer generation had access to... and all this was possible cos of their newly acquired rich status. the progress in future is going to be multi-fold, which is already apparent... take my words for that.
they sent their kids to english school not because it's a status symbol, instead they realized the worth of education nd had wherewithal to afford so <<< catch this. and even if these are status symbols in your opinion, what it has to do with your wrong diagnosis or treatment ? i hope you don't mean to say that they shouldn't have done so ?

i talked nd mentioned villages of south delhi. now come to the villages in palam/nazafgarh/nangloi belt... villages like barthal, bijwasan, dabri, mundka, amberhai, kirari, karala etc to mention a few. these villages had properties that was not acquired by DDA and they flourished with the gains by getting into property dealing. remember, this boom started only in late eighties and early nineties. prior to that, they too, hardly had anything at their disposal. in late eighties and early nineties a maruti-800 was a coveted possession. the riches started flowing in abundance and there was no looking back in this belt as well. to any one who has knowledge of changing times in delhi... it goes without mentioning that JAT's of south delhi were better off in terms of riches and more importantly EDUCATION.

... cont
 
... cont from prev post

when you talk of few enlightened folks, whose pursuit was education then i quote my example. many thanks to my father who himself being an educationist (retired as principal from delhi's sr. sec school) blessed me with the opportunity to study in one of the best schools in delhi/india. also remember here, these enlightened folks that you talked about were hardly few that you can count on your tips. from my village, i can remember very precisely that there were 2 or 3 boys that had access to english school.

now tell me where is the wrong diagnosis ??? for a moment, i'll forget about the treatment until i hear from you. i would appreciate if you can extend your thoughts further, as i inferred very less from your previous post.

please only reply if you feel my above analysis is wrong or flawed off-course vis-a-vis your previous post.
 
Very recently, I was having lunch with other delegates during the break, in the seminar proceedings, where I had been invited as an independent resource person.

Sitting opposite me was a young, fair, well built, good looking and smart delegate. On query it transpired that he had been sponsored from Haryana. Mistaking him for a Jat from Haryana, innocently I asked “What are you?” ‘Schedule cast” He replied, a bit diffidently. I should have stopped ten and there with no more direct questioning. However, I continued,”What in Schedule cast?” With no manoeuvring space left “Chamar” he replied honestly. Time stood still for some undefined moments, till I made some feeble efforts to retrieve both of us from the awkward situation that my uncalled for curiosity had placed both of us in.

Let’s now replay the scene: with me as an OBC, situated in a similar situation. “What are you, a Sharma / Mishra?” Deceived by my fair(Jat) complexion, I am asked. “OBC” I respond while trying to hide my cast identity. “Oh, but what? On back-foot I respond a bit hesitatingly, “Jat”.

I don’t like it and I do not deserve the ignominy of being tagged an OBC , I would like to proudly declare, in the first instance itself, that I am a JAT.

I am proud of my heritage and I am proud of being a Jat .At time, I mention it even without being asked, and yes I do enjoy and laugh with others on the innumerable jokes about Jats, reminding the gathering of the riposte to Khat by a Teli with Kohlu by the Jat .

Sadly, I do come across at times, in various Sabhas , Manchcs of Jat gatherings, with narrow thinking, still tied to past, refusing to change with time fellow Jats bls31
 
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Very recently, I was having lunch with other delegates during the break, in the seminar proceedings, where I had been invited as an independent resource person.

Sitting opposite me was a young, fair, well built, good looking and smart delegate. On query it transpired that he had been sponsored from Haryana. Mistaking him for a Jat from Haryana, innocently I asked “What are you?” ‘Schedule cast” He replied, a bit diffidently. I should have stopped ten and there with no more direct questioning. However, I continued,”What in Schedule cast?” With no manoeuvring space left “Chamar” he replied honestly. Time stood still for some undefined moments, till I made some feeble efforts to retrieve both of us from the awkward situation that my uncalled for curiosity had placed both of us in.

Let’s now replay the scene: with me as an OBC, situated in a similar situation. “What are you, a Sharma / Mishra?” Deceived by my fair(Jat) complexion, I am asked. “OBC” I respond while trying to hide my cast identity. “Oh, but what? On back-foot I respond a bit hesitatingly, “Jat”.

I don’t like it and I do not deserve the ignominy of being tagged an OBC , I would like to proudly declare, in the first instance itself, that I am a JAT.

I am proud of my heritage and I am proud of being a Jat .At time, I mention it even without being asked, and yes I do enjoy and laugh with others on the innumerable jokes about Jats, reminding the gathering of the riposte to Khat by a Teli with Kohlu by the Jat .

Sadly, I do come across at times, in various Sabhas , Manchcs of Jat gatherings, with narrow thinking, still tied to past, refusing to change with time fellow Jats bls31

I don't want to say anything here but the situation made me to think in other direction.
let's take first situation and take little more time.
A boy came with well built physique and handsome looks holdin tray of drinks in his hand bearing a name plate on chest "Rambir Dahiya".Got indulged in talks with him i came to know that he is a first class postgraduate who tried in many exams but failed reason very simple.Even after getting much more marks then the fellow delegate sitting on the table with Col.
 
Ek dost hai mera uska interview tha who happened to be asst. manaager at that time.
Sardar ne saari baat karne ke baad kaha "Yaar mein tuhanu paise ta de danga par designation mein tuhanu Sr. Engineer di hi de sakda haan"(I can give you money you asked for but i will give you designation of Sr. engineer not astt. manager"
His reply was" Sir ji pahe dedo phawe sanu khota keh lo" Give me money you can call me donkey also.
Did any of my fellow members cared about caste of DC or judge of your own district?
Never

Manmohan Sardar to hai par sardaro mein bhi jati hai kisi ne poocha ya socha kabhi?
Aadmi ka pad dekha jata hai aur agar yahi hal raha to jato ko chaprasi ka pad bhi milna mushkil ho jayega.
Mehnat kar yahi nara hai sabka. Kitne jat hin jo shehro mein ehte hain aur jo rehte hain unke pass sadhan hain apne parivar ko palne ke.
Ek gaon mein baitha ek kisan jiske pass 3 beegha jameen hai jisme uske parivar ka gujara mushkil hota hai aur jiske bachhe sarkari school mein jate hain usk kya?
Yahan saare buerocrates paak gaye kyonki aap logo ki haisiyat thee ya aapke parivar walo ko mauka mil gaya ki aapko padha likha sake chahe wo aapki jyada jameen ke karan tha ya aapke pitaji ki naukri ke kaaran (*us time reservation nahi thee na to aaj kise delegate bante mein bhi dekhta)


Ye Reservation unke liye nahi hai jo aaj AC mein baith kar computer ka key board tod rahe hain. Ye us kisan ke liye hai jiska gehu aaj lan mein hai ya mandi mein vyapariyo ki baat dekh raha hi ki wo kab bikega jis se uske bachho ke admission honge aur unki kitabe ayengi.
 
Let’s now replay the scene: with me as an OBC, situated in a similar situation. “What are you, a Sharma / Mishra?” Deceived by my fair(Jat) complexion, I am asked. “OBC” I respond while trying to hide my cast identity. “Oh, but what? On back-foot I respond a bit hesitatingly, “Jat”.
brig sir,

that's where your perception lies and that's where imo you are wrong. you are too much obsessed with the ignominious tag of OBC... so much, so that you forgot that you are a JAT first and tagged later.

why don't you proudly say that i am a JAT at the very first instance ?

brig sir, take my words here... the guy across you would not dare to question you again by saying "oh o... so you are an OBC?". you have confessed that you are proud to be a JAT, but you are failing to take cognizance of the fact as to what makes you feel proud to be a JAT.

I don’t like it and I do not deserve the ignominy of being tagged an OBC , I would like to proudly declare, in the first instance itself, that I am a JAT.

sir, what stops you from saying JAT at the 1st instance ? again, as reciprocated above... its your obsession with the ignominious tag of OBC that you are failing to accept... totally oblivious of the benefits your brethren will accrue. don't you feel that is so selfish of you ?.
 
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I am proud of my heritage and I am proud of being a Jat .At time, I mention it even without being asked, and yes I do enjoy and laugh with others on the innumerable jokes about Jats, reminding the gathering of the riposte to Khat by a Teli with Kohlu by the Jat .

Sadly, I do come across at times, in various Sabhas , Manchcs of Jat gatherings, with narrow thinking, still tied to past, refusing to change with time fellow Jats bls31


Brig Sir, everyone is proud to be a Jat here. I can't see any reason behind feeling hesitant or ashamed in taking reservation for the needy. Getting reservation in OBC will help the children of those, who really are backward in terms of their financial status. Gaon me kitne hi Jat aise hai jinke pass Khaane ke liye gehu ugaane ke liye 1 khet bhi nahi hai poora. Dusro ke kheto me hath batwa kar apne khane ka jugaad karte hai wo. Don't you think they need this reservation more than the SCs who are sitting at various top positions, courtsey to reservation? Farm bharna pade se jab kise naukri ka to General ki fees 500 Rs er SC/ST 50 Rs. Jo admi do tam ki roti ka jugad nahi kar pata wo 500 rupiye kit te devega?

Aur recruitment exams me lower aur upper cut off me jyada difference nahi hota sir. Agar reservation ki help se 4-5 number ka fayda milta hai to isme kya burayi hai? Kise gareeb aadmi ka ghar suthri dhaal bus jaga us naukri te. Jo log saadhan-sampann hai unko to waise bhi nahi milega reservation ka fayda OBC me, kyuki wo creamy layer me aa jayenge. Par jisko bhot jarurat hai usko to milne do!!
Jat will always be Jat irrespective of the place or culture he resides with. So please don't mix reservation with emotions/feelings. Please think in terms of practical scenarios that our fellow village people are facing before opposing reservation.
 
Very recently, I was having lunch with other delegates during the break, in the seminar proceedings, where I had been invited as an independent resource person.

Sitting opposite me was a young, fair, well built, good looking and smart delegate. On query it transpired that he had been sponsored from Haryana. Mistaking him for a Jat from Haryana, innocently I asked “What are you?” ‘Schedule cast” He replied, a bit diffidently. I should have stopped ten and there with no more direct questioning. However, I continued,”What in Schedule cast?” With no manoeuvring space left “Chamar” he replied honestly. Time stood still for some undefined moments, till I made some feeble efforts to retrieve both of us from the awkward situation that my uncalled for curiosity had placed both of us in.

Jitender - Why such casteist conversation in a seminar, Sir? It would have been much better to discuss the things regarding the seminar itself. Why to investigate about caste and creed when we are broad minded? Isnt this shows some kind of narrow mindedness somewhere in our minds?

Present generation doesn't have time for this kind of discrimination, rather they are fighting for their livelihood which is termed as 'Narrow Mindedness'. What does being a Jat and Chamar signifies for? Jat peon and Chamar DC where and how to compare?

This reservation was the BAHANA the politicians got because our elders were of this mindset of Chamar and Jat. (Not only we but these brahmins). You still carry that? Please leave it ... we dont want our future generations to be punished more hardly than us. Chaps come out of Caste thing when it comes out for fake comparisons, fake honourship, fake pride etc etc. Rather think of caste when it comes to improve them like by OBC which is the best diplomatic step in present scenerio.

Let’s now replay the scene: with me as an OBC, situated in a similar situation. “What are you, a Sharma / Mishra?” Deceived by my fair(Jat) complexion, I am asked. “OBC” I respond while trying to hide my cast identity. “Oh, but what? On back-foot I respond a bit hesitatingly, “Jat”.

Jitender - We should come out of this illusioned situation. No color of skin is linked to one caste, section. One of our JL member has been married to a 'Chamar' girl and believe me she is too much pretty. I came to know very late about this thing. She is a doctor by profession. Not only she, her siblings are also in the same profession. YOU KNOW WHY? Her parents also in good govt jobs and have taken advantage of so called 'SC' status at every level ... be it their jobs, their entry level criteria, their promotions, their wards eligibility criteria, their jobs etc etc. And two generations reservation benefits upto that level are sufficient enough to deveive you by their complexion and built. Where are we living sir? Come along with me and I will make you see wards of Jats who are malnutritioned and due to berojgari their so called face value is NULL as compared to wards of DC Gurgaon Mr. Kataria (Chamar - linked to Fool Chand maulana). Chamars are the most benefit getters under SC umbrella.

I don’t like it and I do not deserve the ignominy of being tagged an OBC , I would like to proudly declare, in the first instance itself, that I am a JAT.

Jitender - I am pretty sure you will. But we cant generalise the same thing for all of our fellow Jats.

I am proud of my heritage and I am proud of being a Jat .At time, I mention it even without being asked, and yes I do enjoy and laugh with others on the innumerable jokes about Jats, reminding the gathering of the riposte to Khat by a Teli with Kohlu by the Jat .

Jitender - I never feel much proud in these fake casteist jokes. I feel much proud to find Jats in jobs and doing good rather than being in news for wrong reasons.

A joke in which we proudly anounce Jat to be everything and rest nothing yields nothing to me.

I dont believe in castes. To me every person is equally respectable whether he belongs to any caste, creed, religion, state, profession etc. But I feel problem when I am discriminated whenever I am going to fill in some form for enterance, job, promotion etc etc. WHY I cant compete equally among all candidates in terms of qualification criteria, marks obtained to be in final list, form fees, no of seats. Though the guy sitting next to me have access to all kind of resources I have and may be more than me.


Sadly, I do come across at times, in various Sabhas , Manchcs of Jat gatherings, with narrow thinking, still tied to past, refusing to change with time fellow Jats

Jitender - Its we have to decide which one is narrow thinking and which not, Sir.
bls31

Please find my comments inline, Sir.
 
एडमिशन, किताबें, कापीआं तो पाछे आएँगी... पहल्यां उस जाट नै अपनी छोरी का ब्याह ना कराना जो सयानी हो गई है ?

the education then takes back seat... a JAT goes back into time by a decade or a generation.


Ye Reservation unke liye nahi hai jo aaj AC mein baith kar computer ka key board tod rahe hain. Ye us kisan ke liye hai jiska gehu aaj lan mein hai ya mandi mein vyapariyo ki baat dekh raha hi ki wo kab bikega jis se uske bachho ke admission honge aur unki kitabe ayengi.
 
Fateh Singh Ji
first of all i would like to know why we cannot question our elders........then who will answer our queries......
i did not ask anything unreasonable.....but you are not compelled to answer ........
moreover it is also not possible that a senior or elder will always be true and will take the right decision..............
as far as my background is concerned then i have not much to say or show like you........i am even not a gold medalist and never become the become the president of any university........
i only did my B.Tech from a government college(NIT)......that only with 60%.......and after worked for few time with a private company.......and now i am completly unemployed(just preparing some students, not only jaat, from government schools around my village for Engineering Entrance Exams)........so i dont stand anywhere infront of you......thats it.....
but inspite of this, i have a vision for my community.......i dont want to fool my fellow jaats by taking them in any strikes...........
again it could be possible that i dont have much knowledge about reservation as compared to you, but atleast i undersatnd the consequences of reservation that you have never realized......
so please keep enlightened JAATLAND with your thinking......it need experienced member like you...........who are working for their community.......
I apologize in advance if again i hurt you....and this will be my last reply for you.........so dont worry......you will never face question like this......and keep on writting here.......
chhote bhai haamne bhi karwa de realizeeee.......... k bera dokhaa ho ryaa ho mahre ta .......maine pahle bhi kai baar buuj li par taine gyaaan diyaa koni .....haam ochhe ho jyaange kshtripana chala jaaga ya dalil chhod ke aur bata .....
 
Ek dost hai mera uska interview tha who happened to be asst. manaager at that time.
Sardar ne saari baat karne ke baad kaha "Yaar mein tuhanu paise ta de danga par designation mein tuhanu Sr. Engineer di hi de sakda haan"(I can give you money you asked for but i will give you designation of Sr. engineer not astt. manager"
His reply was" Sir ji pahe dedo phawe sanu khota keh lo" Give me money you can call me donkey also.
Did any of my fellow members cared about caste of DC or judge of your own district?
Never

Manmohan Sardar to hai par sardaro mein bhi jati hai kisi ne poocha ya socha kabhi?
Aadmi ka pad dekha jata hai aur agar yahi hal raha to jato ko chaprasi ka pad bhi milna mushkil ho jayega.
Mehnat kar yahi nara hai sabka. Kitne jat hin jo shehro mein ehte hain aur jo rehte hain unke pass sadhan hain apne parivar ko palne ke.
Ek gaon mein baitha ek kisan jiske pass 3 beegha jameen hai jisme uske parivar ka gujara mushkil hota hai aur jiske bachhe sarkari school mein jate hain usk kya?
Yahan saare buerocrates paak gaye kyonki aap logo ki haisiyat thee ya aapke parivar walo ko mauka mil gaya ki aapko padha likha sake chahe wo aapki jyada jameen ke karan tha ya aapke pitaji ki naukri ke kaaran (*us time reservation nahi thee na to aaj kise delegate bante mein bhi dekhta)


Ye Reservation unke liye nahi hai jo aaj AC mein baith kar computer ka key board tod rahe hain. Ye us kisan ke liye hai jiska gehu aaj lan mein hai ya mandi mein vyapariyo ki baat dekh raha hi ki wo kab bikega jis se uske bachho ke admission honge aur unki kitabe ayengi.


Sachhai chaap di chorre ... Nice post ... Second ur thoughts.
 
Very recently, I was having lunch with other delegates during the break, in the seminar proceedings, where I had been invited as an independent resource person.

Sitting opposite me was a young, fair, well built, good looking and smart delegate. On query it transpired that he had been sponsored from Haryana. Mistaking him for a Jat from Haryana, innocently I asked “What are you?” ‘Schedule cast” He replied, a bit diffidently. I should have stopped ten and there with no more direct questioning. However, I continued,”What in Schedule cast?” With no manoeuvring space left “Chamar” he replied honestly. Time stood still for some undefined moments, till I made some feeble efforts to retrieve both of us from the awkward situation that my uncalled for curiosity had placed both of us in.

Jitender - Why such casteist conversation in a seminar, Sir? It would have been much better to discuss the things regarding the seminar itself. Why to investigate about caste and creed when we are broad minded? Isnt this shows some kind of narrow mindedness somewhere in our minds?

Present generation doesn't have time for this kind of discrimination, rather they are fighting for their livelihood which is termed as 'Narrow Mindedness'. What does being a Jat and Chamar signifies for? Jat peon and Chamar DC where and how to compare?

This reservation was the BAHANA the politicians got because our elders were of this mindset of Chamar and Jat. (Not only we but these brahmins). You still carry that? Please leave it ... we dont want our future generations to be punished more hardly than us. Chaps come out of Caste thing when it comes out for fake comparisons, fake honourship, fake pride etc etc. Rather think of caste when it comes to improve them like by OBC which is the best diplomatic step in present scenerio.

Let’s now replay the scene: with me as an OBC, situated in a similar situation. “What are you, a Sharma / Mishra?” Deceived by my fair(Jat) complexion, I am asked. “OBC” I respond while trying to hide my cast identity. “Oh, but what? On back-foot I respond a bit hesitatingly, “Jat”.

Jitender - We should come out of this illusioned situation. No color of skin is linked to one caste, section. One of our JL member has been married to a 'Chamar' girl and believe me she is too much pretty. I came to know very late about this thing. She is a doctor by profession. Not only she, her siblings are also in the same profession. YOU KNOW WHY? Her parents also in good govt jobs and have taken advantage of so called 'SC' status at every level ... be it their jobs, their entry level criteria, their promotions, their wards eligibility criteria, their jobs etc etc. And two generations reservation benefits upto that level are sufficient enough to deveive you by their complexion and built. Where are we living sir? Come along with me and I will make you see wards of Jats who are malnutritioned and due to berojgari their so called face value is NULL as compared to wards of DC Gurgaon Mr. Kataria (Chamar - linked to Fool Chand maulana). Chamars are the most benefit getters under SC umbrella.

I don’t like it and I do not deserve the ignominy of being tagged an OBC , I would like to proudly declare, in the first instance itself, that I am a JAT.

Jitender - I am pretty sure you will. But we cant generalise the same thing for all of our fellow Jats.

I am proud of my heritage and I am proud of being a Jat .At time, I mention it even without being asked, and yes I do enjoy and laugh with others on the innumerable jokes about Jats, reminding the gathering of the riposte to Khat by a Teli with Kohlu by the Jat .

Jitender - I never feel much proud in these fake casteist jokes. I feel much proud to find Jats in jobs and doing good rather than being in news for wrong reasons.

A joke in which we proudly anounce Jat to be everything and rest nothing yields nothing to me.

I dont believe in castes. To me every person is equally respectable whether he belongs to any caste, creed, religion, state, profession etc. But I feel problem when I am discriminated whenever I am going to fill in some form for enterance, job, promotion etc etc. WHY I cant compete equally among all candidates in terms of qualification criteria, marks obtained to be in final list, form fees, no of seats. Though the guy sitting next to me have access to all kind of resources I have and may be more than me.


Sadly, I do come across at times, in various Sabhas , Manchcs of Jat gatherings, with narrow thinking, still tied to past, refusing to change with time fellow Jats

Jitender - Its we have to decide which one is narrow thinking and which not, Sir.
bls31


Please find my comments inline, Sir.


All ur questions are valid and substantial. If I will write here then will merely copy this post of urs.
 
I am very happy & proud to read views of our youg brothrs, they are much more matured, intelligent & practical than we oldies, if we cannot contribute some thing positive & useful, we elders should not ask our youngers to look on the wrong direction. Brigadier sir these boys seems to me 200% right, we must learn from them. I must tell you, even jats from UP donot get the OBC status & even if jats of one state become obc, you will automatically become obc or will you change your caste in that case. Sir, the tree which gives fruits has lot of flexibility where as KIKAR (BABOOL) gives no fruits & no flexity, you can see yourself which tree is batter, similarly a person with good education, good qualities, batter capabilities & a batter personality is always like fruit tree. I would like to remind you again that a person cannot become great or small, good or bad by his caste, colour, bearing but he is always judged & catagrised by his deeds/work. Sir, please donot worry you will remain jat & you will be tagged with majority of jats. regards
 
Do not be surprised , if it will be the children of the rich and privileged, who have studied in good schools , colleges and whose parents have influence due to their position,who will drive the benefits of the OBC Tag and Not those of the needy. bls31
 
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