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urmiladuhan

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In my humble opinion, I think Siddharta was a true seeker of knowledge for he left his palace, wife and son, at the age of 29, to find answers to the purpose of life and all the difficulties etc of life. He wandered for 7 years, living on the donations by common people of food and clothes when at the age of 36, he was satisfied with the answers he obtained via enlightenment. Thereupon, he decided to share his knowledge with other seekers and lay people, while travelling from place to place.
 
prashantacmet said:
I think that Budhha was the most enlightened man world has ever seen........
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His quest for enlightenment was the most intense as he sacrificed everything he had. No wonder he was rewarded accordingly. " Jitna gud daalo, utna hi meetha" saying applies so well.

RK^2
 
prashantacmet said:
I think that Budhha was the most enlightened man world has ever seen........
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You can say among the contemporary philosophers he was a person with most pragmatic, progressive and scientific vision. Many of the ideals espoused by him are highly and eternally relevant in human life. The most important is his propagation of control on desires upto the optimum level.
 
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Could anyone kindly enlighten about the reasons of his orthodoxy and rigidity of his views on the participation of women in preaching Buddhism as full time preachers.

Thanks and regards
 
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prashantacmet said:
I think that Budhha was the most enlightened man world has ever seen........
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With due regards to his greatness otherwise perhaps his views regarding the role of women were not as progressive as they could have been because on the asking by one of his disciples about it he did not approve of them to join the Samgha as full time preachers. Was it not so ?

Thanks and regards
 
Question is who had approved the equal status of women wrt men ?

As far as I know -
- They were treated as goddess , every auspicious thing start n never completes without them
- Was it some way to keep them restricted to some particular responsibility / work/job / profession etc .

I once read Chanakya's views about Women ........ he always indicated women less capable than men . Also read somewhere ( hindu mythology ) -Once a king asked how would I know that Satyug is over and Kalyug has emerged . He was told some signs one of them was " When WOMEN would start getting equal rights as of men "
 
rekhasmriti said:
Question is who had approved the equal status of women wrt men ?

As far as I know -
- They were treated as goddess , every auspicious thing start n never completes without them
- Was it some way to keep them restricted to some particular responsibility / work/job / profession etc .

I once read Chanakya's views about Women ........ he always indicated women less capable than men . Also read somewhere ( hindu mythology ) -Once a king asked how would I know that Satyug is over and Kalyug has emerged . He was told some signs one of them was " When WOMEN would start getting equal rights as of men "
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You are right. Among all Chanakya said the worst things about women. My personal views are that man is the worst hypocrite and no wonder supreme God is always identified as a male. Buddha was a milder version of Taliban as far as his views about woman are concerned.

RK^2



RK^2
 
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DrRajpalSingh said:
With due regards to his greatness otherwise perhaps his views regarding the role of women were not as progressive as they could have been because on the asking by one of his disciples about it he did not approve of them to join the Samgha as full time preachers. Was it not so ?

Thanks and regards
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Do they allow Woman preachers in Hinduism? Has there been any woman Shakracharya ever or any Maharishi ?

RK^2
 
Would some body enlighten me about the philosophy of Buddha? All I know about him is that he was a prince. He married a beautiful woman, made her mother of a kid and when he should have fulfilled the duties of a father, husband and son as well, he fled to jungle. Well, no doubt he is inspiring figure, but certainly doesn't deserve 100/100 marks. What result he got out of his penance? He also died after suffering a lot, after growing old. He is also supposed to be bigger apostle of peace than Gandhi. Peace...#$&*#...
 
rekhasmriti said:
Question is who had approved the equal status of women wrt men ?

As far as I know -
- They were treated as goddess , every auspicious thing start n never completes without them
- Was it some way to keep them restricted to some particular responsibility / work/job / profession etc .

I once read Chanakya's views about Women ........ he always indicated women less capable than men . Also read somewhere ( hindu mythology ) -Once a king asked how would I know that Satyug is over and Kalyug has emerged . He was told some signs one of them was " When WOMEN would start getting equal rights as of men "
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Since Buddhism rose as a revolt against the prevalence of some of wrong practices, traditions and conventions of the then Hinduism, the question is to ponder over why Buddha did not provide equal opportunity to Women in his Samgha.
 
rkumar said:
Do they allow Woman preachers in Hinduism? Has there been any woman Shakracharya ever or any Maharishi ?

RK^2
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So it may be presumed that this new Reformation Movement too did fail to provide equal opportunities for women.

But the question arises, WHY Buddha did so ?

Thanks and regards
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
So it may be presumed that this new Reformation Movement too did fail to provide equal opportunities for women.

But the question arises, WHY Buddha did so ?

Thanks and regards
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My intelligent guess would be to read his childhood. His mother died when he was very young. He was looked after by his mausi. I have the feeling that he had a traumatic childhood. Early in childhood he found almost everything and anything painful. His mission was to find out the cause of pain and then the nirvana. Almost all human relations were sourse of pain to him. This is why he left home, his wife and child. he saw his mausi also through the same lens. Since first woman asking to become nun was his Mausi, he must have got mixed up. I can't think any other reason.

RK^2
 
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Siddharta left his palace in search for truth of life, and not to revolt against any religion or their practices.


DrRajpalSingh said:
Since Buddhism rose as a revolt against the prevalence of some of wrong practices, traditions and conventions of the then Hinduism, the question is to ponder over why Buddha did not provide equal opportunity to Women in his Samgha.
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When Buddha was born, his father invited a well known sage of that time of the name Asita, to foretell the newborns future. Asita told the king that either the child will become a very powerful king or else a very influential sage. Siddhartas father did not want his child's future to turn into that of an ascetic. So he made sure Siddharta was given all the luxuries available and he was not touched by the pains of life in any way. He was not allowed to walk out of the palace lest he should see any sufferings. But as fate destined it, Siddharta saw from his palace, people taking an old mans body for cremation, old age etc and that made him question life and suffering. He wanted to know how to end suffering. When he was 29, he decided to give up palace life to find answers via personal search.



rkumar said:
My intelligent guess would be to read his childhood. His mother dies when he was very young. He was looked after by his mausi. I have the feeling that he had a traumatic childhood. Early in childhood he found almost everything and anything painful. His mission was to find out the cause of pain and then the nirvana. Almost all human relations were surse of pain to him. This is why he left home, his wife and child. he saw his mausi also through the same lens. Since first woman asking to become nun was his Mausi, he must have got mixed up. I can't think any other reason.

RK^2
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urmiladuhan said:
Siddharta left his palace in search for truth of life, and not to revolt against any religion or their practices.
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Was it true or not that after becoming Buddha, Siddhartha preached against brahmanical orthodoxy and challenged their supremacy in social hierarchy but the enlightened one was against the entry of women as full time workers in the Buddhist Samghas.

The question remains unanswered : Why did he do so, if you have come across some literature on this aspect kindly share it please.

Thanks and regards
 
An interesting incident in Buddhas life has been captured in sculpture form (2 nd B.C.E, I believe) where Buddha meets his son and wife after his enlightenment. Buddha's wife nudges Rahula (her son) to ask his father for his inheritance from him. When Rahula approaches Buddha for his inheritance, Buddha gently advances his begging bowl towards his son, meaning that is what Buddha has to offer to his son. In true sense, Buddha was giving his son what all he possessed.




QUOTE=upendersingh;349259]Would some body enlighten me about the philosophy of Buddha? All I know about him is that he was a prince. He married a beautiful woman, made her mother of a kid and when he should have fulfilled the duties of a father, husband and son as well, he fled to jungle. Well, no doubt he is inspiring figure, but certainly doesn't deserve 100/100 marks. What result he got out of his penance? He also died after suffering a lot, after growing old. He is also supposed to be bigger apostle of peace than Gandhi. Peace...#$&*#...[/QUOTE]
 
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