Open Debate As To Why The Members Don't Stick Around
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There are many reasons as far as I can see and feel.
1. Grading mebers into stars and non- stars ( Jatland ke sitare type threads). ... take no offence please. There are many such threads from time to time which come under different headings where members are graded in terms of someone's arbitrary liking.
2. There is no serious debate of action plan on serious social issues. Lately people don't even respond to such threads. This is slowly pushing serious members away from Jatland.
3. There are no effeorts to honour members like Birbal Singh who helped so many young jat students. I am sorry to say that the names of such people never find their mention anywhere.
There are many more reasons. Let the debate move forward, members will come with many more.
RK^2
1. Grading mebers into stars and non- stars ( Jatland ke sitare type threads). ... take no offence please. There are many such threads from time to time which come under different headings where members are graded in terms of someone's arbitrary liking.
2. There is no serious debate of action plan on serious social issues. Lately people don't even respond to such threads. This is slowly pushing serious members away from Jatland.
3. There are no effeorts to honour members like Birbal Singh who helped so many young jat students. I am sorry to say that the names of such people never find their mention anywhere.
There are many more reasons. Let the debate move forward, members will come with many more.
RK^2
1] I doubt it....first of all even if some branding took place it was for good intention and if some name did not figure there due to some reason or may be oversight,i don't think anybody was condemned at all.More over those members who were appreciated most are missing...that defies the logic put forward.So i don't agree at all on this point.
2]There are very serious discussion still on out here...infact more than before........not remotely a case.
3] Who will honor whom? Jatland is a website and not an organization but still i concur with you that some sort of mechanism must be in place for highlighting and appreciating the contributions made by the people like Birbal ji.The decision rests with the who's who please.I from my side had started a thread also to this effect..which is there for all to see.
Jatland is not just a website. Its much more than a website to most of us. Its a portal for our community. This portal became the mouth piece for many of us to integrate the community and evolve the methodology to serve fellow jats in rural area. Many of us got our ideas from fellow members, whom unfortunately we don't see any more here. Words of encouragements from them went a long way to make our resolve even stronger.
Then came the poetic talent which many thought that Jats rarely have. One by one I saw them all disappearing in thin air because of some silly fights erupting now and then.
I feel its the duty of each one of us to ensure that members take part in healthy debates and this portal motivates them to serve community.
RK^2
Then came the poetic talent which many thought that Jats rarely have. One by one I saw them all disappearing in thin air because of some silly fights erupting now and then.
I feel its the duty of each one of us to ensure that members take part in healthy debates and this portal motivates them to serve community.
RK^2
Jatland is not just a website but it is a common playground for the Jat community where fellow members come and share there view of points ( positives or negatives, depend on them ). Some are (were) so aggressive that they want ( wanted ) themselves to forced upon others while some others are ( were ) so defensive that they wanted to leave everything behind the closed curtains. Everybody have their own nature by himself (herself) and behave accordingly. In my duration of membership at Jatland i saw so many people leaving Jatland and so many new members ( some seems too enthu.. but later ..... alas...... leave that for gud ).
It hurts a lot when someone writes from the heart and few stupids makes mockery of that....... never mind ..... as life goes on. who cares ( that's where people think that it's just a web site) ....... depend on how mods behave.......... is it for benefit of the community site or just a profitable (or professional) business site..... you people out there decide that for the gud.
I saw people here against all the odds. Funny, humours, sticky, argumentative, aggressive, defensive, melonchaly, assertive, hurting, helping, decepting etc etc.
Mods are doing their job gud ( postively except a few exceptions ).... if they ever know that ( i mean it ) ....... i hope they know what was the motive when the site was in infant stage ( when Nitin Dahiya took the initiative and people came forward to help the noble cause )but now it seems a business and personal preferences ( no offernce to anyone )...... really ....... and ironically .
I saw so many ups and downs here during my membership here ( almost 2 years) ........ come across few gud people and, of courese some bad people too (never mind ..... part of life
)... and some people who felt gud by nature but whenever contacted ( personally.... they showed their real face ......... hahaha) .... never mind .
Few people here i respected most ( and helped them however i could ) showed their preferences that maybe raised their status as "good bad" or "bad good" amongst the good/bad people of their choice ...... let them glorify some psudo characters ...... ( sorry... if i hurt anyone here..... no personal offence .... and i mean it ).
I was busy these days and if some one thought that i left Jatland ... sorry for that .....i am not going to leave jatland for sure... ( provided that Jatland admins don' t ban me from coming here)
I still wonder who are Jatland ke Sitaare and why ? What they did for the Jatland and for the community so far ?
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It hurts a lot when someone writes from the heart and few stupids makes mockery of that....... never mind ..... as life goes on. who cares ( that's where people think that it's just a web site) ....... depend on how mods behave.......... is it for benefit of the community site or just a profitable (or professional) business site..... you people out there decide that for the gud.
I saw people here against all the odds. Funny, humours, sticky, argumentative, aggressive, defensive, melonchaly, assertive, hurting, helping, decepting etc etc.
Mods are doing their job gud ( postively except a few exceptions ).... if they ever know that ( i mean it ) ....... i hope they know what was the motive when the site was in infant stage ( when Nitin Dahiya took the initiative and people came forward to help the noble cause )but now it seems a business and personal preferences ( no offernce to anyone )...... really ....... and ironically .
I saw so many ups and downs here during my membership here ( almost 2 years) ........ come across few gud people and, of courese some bad people too (never mind ..... part of life
)... and some people who felt gud by nature but whenever contacted ( personally.... they showed their real face ......... hahaha) .... never mind .Few people here i respected most ( and helped them however i could ) showed their preferences that maybe raised their status as "good bad" or "bad good" amongst the good/bad people of their choice ...... let them glorify some psudo characters ...... ( sorry... if i hurt anyone here..... no personal offence .... and i mean it ).
I was busy these days and if some one thought that i left Jatland ... sorry for that .....i am not going to leave jatland for sure... ( provided that Jatland admins don' t ban me from coming here)
I still wonder who are Jatland ke Sitaare and why ? What they did for the Jatland and for the community so far ?
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The most important thing in life is to love someone. The second most important thing is that someone loves you. The third most important thing is that first two happen at the same time.
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deepakchoudhry
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Maybe some people dont have the maturity to behave with others.
Everything is EGO and personal.
This leaves a bad taste and Members get cheesed off and leave.
Which is a shame !!
deepakchoudhry
New member
Jatland kay Sitare
RK ji,
With all due respect, I think you have jumped the gun.
Dev Bhai sahib (being a senior member) does this all the time and just tries to encourage and apperciate the members so they feel and become part of the group.
Pls see this in the context.
This is not about personal likes or dislikes.
Deepak
RK ji,
With all due respect, I think you have jumped the gun.
Dev Bhai sahib (being a senior member) does this all the time and just tries to encourage and apperciate the members so they feel and become part of the group.
Pls see this in the context.
This is not about personal likes or dislikes.
Deepak
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deepakchoudhry
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Vikas / Vijay,
You guys are great and Vijay your absence has been felt.
Bro, life main sabse banay yeh jurrori toh nahin but there are people on jatland who admire and apperciate you both even though they dont communicate this to you.
Lets keep the Glass Half full.
Deepak
I still wonder who are Jatland ke Sitaare and why ? What they did for the Jatland and for the community so far ?
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The most important thing in life is to love someone. The second most important thing is that someone loves you. The third most important thing is that first two happen at the same time.
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You are one out of them.......Now say further as to what you contributed while being around?Vijay i am sure that you got tremendous respect here.It is a free site and no body is under obligation to love or hate some one and if you get loved in spite of that fact....then one should be very grateful to the almighty.MUKKAMMAL tou kuchh bhi nahin hei iss duniyan mein mere bhai.
Vikas / Vijay,
You guys are great and Vijay your absence has been felt.
Bro, life main sabse banay yeh jurrori toh nahin but there are people on jatland who admire and apperciate you both even though they dont communicate this to you.
Lets keep the Glass Half full.
Deepak
Durrust baat bhai.
Vikas / Vijay,
You guys are great and Vijay your absence has been felt.
Bro, life main sabse banay yeh jurrori toh nahin but there are people on jatland who admire and apperciate you both even though they dont communicate this to you.
Lets keep the Glass Half full.
Deepak
Deepak Bhai, please don't take my words so precisely. you know sometimes you just want to express what you felt. So did i but neither i am complaining here nor regretting .... just penned down my personal thoughts out there ....
It's nice to hear that my absence has been felt in this "who cares" world of these days.
Admiration and appreciation doesn't need any testimonial, they come straight from the heart.....
My glass is always full..... regardless of the circumstances and people.
Admiration and appreciation doesn't need any testimonial, they come straight from the heart.....
My glass is always full..... regardless of the circumstances and people.
hitting nail on the head... i second your words..
Hey Vijay , good to see you back mate. Yeah I agree its not just a website. We people are wonderful, aint we?
Kakaji people might not be getting enough time to visit and post here. I agree with Vikas too Jats is what they come here looking for and Jats are what repel them
trueblueindian
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A one Liner
let'zs avoid moving in herds and let'z be individuals with a firm mind ................ followers are infinte ...,.,,..,...,.,.,,,,,,,,.............
let'zs avoid moving in herds and let'z be individuals with a firm mind ................ followers are infinte ...,.,,..,...,.,.,,,,,,,,.............
I am not from that ones for sure.
I am just a human being, having my personal feelings and desires, likings and dislikings, aspirations and perceptions etc. I didn't did anything special for Jatland. (Infact just mailed millions times to the mods/Admins for the gud or bad ).
Jatland ke sitaare must be the people who are/were dedicated to it................ i can recall Burdak Ji, Birbal Ji type people only as jatland ke sitaare but not some ******* who even don't know how to behave in a portal where all the world is watching our "Jat nature and attitude" and maybe having a perception that what basic insticts we have......
i don't think that my messege is doubtfull.
I am positively not from one of them for sure.
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No your message is not doubtful but certainly very complicated.Come straight to the point dear.we know Budrak bhai and Mr Birbal for a long time now...and mind you they are human beings only.....i don't know what you mean by 'I am just a human being'. There are various type of people who visit here and you can't bind them with single philosophy of behavior pattern.What ever ******** they write here speaks of their mind and thus one should not bog down in these silly issues.Holding grudges with the whole world is a sure sign of depression.You sound out right negative Vijay which i suppose does not fit into your psychological slot.Be kind to this world..after all no one has harmed you here.
Well, my 2 cents -
First of all wanna quote, RK uncle's words of wisdom, that says all
Now hv a look to the similar thread which I posted way back in Feb this year,-
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19010
I too miss those golden days n real gems here on Jatland, but cant help it!!
Rock on
Jit
First of all wanna quote, RK uncle's words of wisdom, that says all
Now hv a look to the similar thread which I posted way back in Feb this year,-
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19010
I too miss those golden days n real gems here on Jatland, but cant help it!!
Rock on
Jit
scsheorayan
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Jatland is like a Chaupal
Dear All,
Jatland has come a long way from the time Nitin started it. Now it has close to 8000 members, some of them are regulars for some time, then drop out for a while and then come back. Well, that is life and one must accept that people will spend their time where they like.
Like a chaupal, if there is interesting conversation in progress, people will stay there and probably participate. But if there is nothing of interest, then people will rather do some thing more interesting with their time.
It is up to all members to make this chaupal interesting. Lately, quantity of posts have been rising but quality has not kept pace. In this busy life one can only spare so much time for internet, if all he/she reads is bickering and infighting, it is easy to walk out and that is what they have been doing.
There is no need to be disappointed, things have the habit of changing. Some times for better and some times for worse. If we keep the jat spirit alive on jatland, have no concern about it's future. It will become what we all want it to be. My sincere hope is that Jatland feels like home to many more jats now and in future.
Cheers.
Dear All,Jatland has come a long way from the time Nitin started it. Now it has close to 8000 members, some of them are regulars for some time, then drop out for a while and then come back. Well, that is life and one must accept that people will spend their time where they like.
Like a chaupal, if there is interesting conversation in progress, people will stay there and probably participate. But if there is nothing of interest, then people will rather do some thing more interesting with their time.
It is up to all members to make this chaupal interesting. Lately, quantity of posts have been rising but quality has not kept pace. In this busy life one can only spare so much time for internet, if all he/she reads is bickering and infighting, it is easy to walk out and that is what they have been doing.
There is no need to be disappointed, things have the habit of changing. Some times for better and some times for worse. If we keep the jat spirit alive on jatland, have no concern about it's future. It will become what we all want it to be. My sincere hope is that Jatland feels like home to many more jats now and in future.
Cheers.
community site
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9746&highlight=dudiji
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14971&highlight=dudee+posts
Dear all see above link.
ham bhi yahan high hope lekar-apni site-apna ghar samaj kar aaye
care or share- joint family-community ka path padhane ko yaha aaye
apne experiences share karne- kisi bhai- bahin ka bhala ho
yahi soch kar- gali aur bejati sahkar bhi aaj tak likhte rahe han.
hamne kae bar kaha ki community site hae to community ki tarah chalao.
21- members ki panchayat bana kar. Gurgaon mae frist get together bhi kiye.
jinka naam com. mae nahi aaya unhone use deen se tang kechne saru karde. moderator banaya- hataya- posts delete kari- membership ban kiye
aaj bhi community -education-daru-dowry- drugs ki posts lock han.
yah sabhi huwa- parntu senior members tamasa dekhte rahe.
uska result aaj aap dekh rahe han.
kudh per gujrati tab pata chalta hae
Ijat-bejati aur community kis chij ka nam hae
ham bhi 1deen peacemaker ban kar aaye thy
jat kaum ka positive savrup duniya ko dekhlana chahate thy-
per kaya ho raha hae- duniya tamasa dekhti hae.
I am fully agree with RK JI and Subhachand ji.
bahut deen ky vad dil ki bat kahi hae.
hamne subhachand ji ko bhi kaha hae- ki community ki tarah site ko chalao ya resign kardo- mujhe khusi hae inko daeer sy sahi bat samajh aa gaye.
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9746&highlight=dudiji
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14971&highlight=dudee+posts
Dear all see above link.
ham bhi yahan high hope lekar-apni site-apna ghar samaj kar aaye
care or share- joint family-community ka path padhane ko yaha aaye
apne experiences share karne- kisi bhai- bahin ka bhala ho
yahi soch kar- gali aur bejati sahkar bhi aaj tak likhte rahe han.
hamne kae bar kaha ki community site hae to community ki tarah chalao.
21- members ki panchayat bana kar. Gurgaon mae frist get together bhi kiye.
jinka naam com. mae nahi aaya unhone use deen se tang kechne saru karde. moderator banaya- hataya- posts delete kari- membership ban kiye
aaj bhi community -education-daru-dowry- drugs ki posts lock han.
yah sabhi huwa- parntu senior members tamasa dekhte rahe.
uska result aaj aap dekh rahe han.
kudh per gujrati tab pata chalta hae
Ijat-bejati aur community kis chij ka nam hae
ham bhi 1deen peacemaker ban kar aaye thy
jat kaum ka positive savrup duniya ko dekhlana chahate thy-
per kaya ho raha hae- duniya tamasa dekhti hae.
I am fully agree with RK JI and Subhachand ji.
bahut deen ky vad dil ki bat kahi hae.
hamne subhachand ji ko bhi kaha hae- ki community ki tarah site ko chalao ya resign kardo- mujhe khusi hae inko daeer sy sahi bat samajh aa gaye.
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