Open Debate As To Why The Members Don't Stick Around

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cooljat said:
Well, my 2 cents -

First of all wanna quote, RK uncle's words of wisdom, that says all :rolleyes:
There have been many efforts when Jatland was almost hijacked by gangs of all sorts and well meaning people were pushed around. Everyone can't be a "Dheeth" who can face all odds and still keep showing up.
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Well this statement is very true....I n some other friends jointly faced the same at times. But I would say,,, we showed our resilience and stayed firm... rather than showing resentment over it... or escaping from the forums. But yea, it definitely hurts,,, when some people who are bit older than you at the portal,,, n try to show that they are the owners of this site,, n will do anything n everything to hurt you, to rule over you...either you follow their ways or you wont be allowed to survive peacefully here..... Nyways,,,,Ultimately coherence prevails.

Reasons why people leave this portal... can be many. Overall fully agree to Sheorayan Sir review on the issue. But sometimes this kinda odd behaviour n happennings can be reason that people not staying here for long...n other than this can be individauls' different priorities at times n time limitations in life.
 
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Yes, right on..

scsheorayan said:
:) Dear All,
Jatland has come a long way from the time Nitin started it. Now it has close to 8000 members, some of them are regulars for some time, then drop out for a while and then come back. Well, that is life and one must accept that people will spend their time where they like.
Like a chaupal, if there is interesting conversation in progress, people will stay there and probably participate. But if there is nothing of interest, then people will rather do some thing more interesting with their time.
It is up to all members to make this chaupal interesting. Lately, quantity of posts have been rising but quality has not kept pace. In this busy life one can only spare so much time for internet, if all he/she reads is bickering and infighting, it is easy to walk out and that is what they have been doing.
There is no need to be disappointed, things have the habit of changing. Some times for better and some times for worse. If we keep the jat spirit alive on jatland, have no concern about it's future. It will become what we all want it to be. My sincere hope is that Jatland feels like home to many more jats now and in future.
Cheers.
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Nothing more left to say after this!
Totally true!!
 
rk ji ye ek web site hi to hai onke liye jinhone isse banaya hai.ye to aap aur hum jaise hi log hai jo apna samjh ke bad chad ke participate kartae hai .moderators ko kabhi dekha hai kisi member ko encourage kartae hue.ha ban jarur kar dege ya threads pe lock laga dege.agar aap is site pe bahut diplomatically behave kar le to jyada se jyada moderator jarur bana dege.site pe aaj agar vo log nahi atte jo pahle atte the oska ek had tak shrey moderators ko hi jaata hai..har member ki duty hai is site ko behtar banana par sath saath me moderators ki bhi jimmedari hai.
rkumar said:
Jatland is not just a website. Its much more than a website to most of us. Its a portal for our community. This portal became the mouth piece for many of us to integrate the community and evolve the methodology to serve fellow jats in rural area. Many of us got our ideas from fellow members, whom unfortunately we don't see any more here. Words of encouragements from them went a long way to make our resolve even stronger.

Then came the poetic talent which many thought that Jats rarely have. One by one I saw them all disappearing in thin air because of some silly fights erupting now and then.

I feel its the duty of each one of us to ensure that members take part in healthy debates and this portal motivates them to serve community.

RK^2
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Dhanyawaad Dev Sahab,

Dahiya sahab bahut achchhi thread shuru kee hai aapney,
Mujhey bahut jayada to nahi pata parantoo abhi tak bahut say logo ney is site per likhna band/kam ker diya hai is per vichar karkey jo bhee nishkarsh nikley usey sabhee senior members/modrators/administrators ko milker laago kerna chahiyea taaki hum un sabhi guni jano key anubhav ka fayada utha sakey, purey samaj key bhalai key liya kuchh positive kiya ja sakey or wo tabhi sambhav hai jab sabhi guni jan yanhan aatey rahein.

Hum mey say aadhikter log bahut hee egostick hai isliya humey yea samjhna chahiya ke jis tarah hum kisee kee galat(jo hamey pasand no ho)baat sahan nahi ker paatey hai usee tarah dusrey log bhee hamari baat say sehmat nahi ho saktey hai. Hum jab bhee kuchh likhey ya kisee ka javab dein to hamey yeah jarur dhayn rakhna chahiyea kee harma javab saaf suthrey sabdo mein ho or agar hum wah javab aapney say badey logo ko sambodhit ker likh rahey hai to unkey samman ka hamey dhayan rakhna chahiyea.

Hum sabhi Jat hain hamarey ander bahut saari achchhaiya hain or kuchh buraai bhee hai, jab bhee hum aapnee kisee buraai ko sudharney kee baat karey to is tarah karey jissey koi apmanit na ho, hamarey samaj per koi anavashyak ungli na uthai, usmey aaptijanak sabdo ka estemaal na ho.

Hum kitney bhee badey ho jaeny or duniya mein kahin bhe rahein agar hum aapnee jaati ko samman nahi dengey to hamey bhee kabhe samman nahi milega. "Jo aapney bujergo ka samman nahi kartey wo kabhee samman key layak nahi hotey".
 
skarmveer said:
Dahiya sahab bahut achchhi thread shuru kee hai aapney,
Mujhey bahut jayada to nahi pata parantoo abhi tak bahut say logo ney is site per likhna band/kam ker diya hai is per vichar karkey jo bhee nishkarsh nikley usey sabhee senior members/modrators/administrators ko milker laago kerna chahiyea taaki hum un sabhi guni jano key anubhav ka fayada utha sakey, purey samaj key bhalai key liya kuchh positive kiya ja sakey or wo tabhi sambhav hai jab sabhi guni jan yanhan aatey rahein.

Hum mey say aadhikter log bahut hee egostick hai isliya humey yea samjhna chahiya ke jis tarah hum kisee kee galat(jo hamey pasand no ho)baat sahan nahi ker paatey hai usee tarah dusrey log bhee hamari baat say sehmat nahi ho saktey hai. Hum jab bhee kuchh likhey ya kisee ka javab dein to hamey yeah jarur dhayn rakhna chahiyea kee harma javab saaf suthrey sabdo mein ho or agar hum wah javab aapney say badey logo ko sambodhit ker likh rahey hai to unkey samman ka hamey dhayan rakhna chahiyea.

Hum sabhi Jat hain hamarey ander bahut saari achchhaiya hain or kuchh buraai bhee hai, jab bhee hum aapnee kisee buraai ko sudharney kee baat karey to is tarah karey jissey koi apmanit na ho, hamarey samaj per koi anavashyak ungli na uthai, usmey aaptijanak sabdo ka estemaal na ho.

Hum kitney bhee badey ho jaeny or duniya mein kahin bhe rahein agar hum aapnee jaati ko samman nahi dengey to hamey bhee kabhe samman nahi milega. "Jo aapney bujergo ka samman nahi kartey wo kabhee samman key layak nahi hotey".
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Karmveer bhai,aap ke vichar padhh kar dil khush hota hei.Aap jaisse sachche Jat aadami ko mein sllamm karta huun.Ye jajbba hammare anddar khattam ho raha hei aur hum pehle humanity ki baat karne lagte hein.Sachchai tou ye hei ki aggar hamara ghar thheek nahin hei tou bahar wala koi hammare bhasshan mein interested nahin hei.Jyadatar logg jo iss site ko chhodd kar gaye hein unmmein iss jajjbbe ki kammi jarrur thi warna appne ghar ko koi chhodd kar nahin jata.

Dussari baat ye hei ke Iss site ke who's who nei bhi kabhi achhi batton ko seriously nahin liya ye kaddwi sachchai hei.Mainne khhudd kai baar kaha ke Members ka sammaan karna aur unki taareeff mein 2 shabbdd kehna koi sharam ki baat nahin hei lekin jab bhi inhonei hastakshep kiya ussmein maturity kamm aur dadagiri ka aabhhass jyada tha.Kissi bhi portal ko izzat se chalane ke liye BADDAPPAN ki jarrurat hoti hei...jo yahan lack karta hei.Laddaiyan sabhi jagah hotti hein ye koi khass baat nahin hei lekin unn UNMAADDON se kaisse nibtta gya ya ja raha hei ye ek mahatvapurran baat hei.


Mein aaj firr ek slah detta huun,aur dekhta huun kya nikalta hei issmein:


JO LOGG ISS SITE PER JAT KAUM KI IZZAT BADHHANEIN,LOGGON KA GYAN BADHHANE TATHHA LOGGON KE MANORANJJAN KARNE MEIN VISHISHATT YOGDAAN DETTE HEIN UNKI LIST BANNA KAR HAR SAAL UNKO HONOUR KARNA CHAHIYE EK FUNCTION KAR KE.MEIN USSKE LIYE JO KUCHH KARNA HO KARNE KE LIYE TAIYAAR HUUN.


Let me see the reactions of who's who?
 
Problems from members itself...may be a reason

Dear sir ......
I want to convey an incident.....

Initially i was a regular member of this group in humour section as with the little time i can go to this section to read and enjoy it. And in past i discontinued posting.... it was not because i was banned for one month from site, I commited a mistake which was unintentional and not a bigger one comparatively but still it was ok and i started posting again.

But one day i went to a long thread in humour section and read the posts by the members. Instead of talking about the thread and humour there were hell lot of abouses in that for each other and the thread continues for a longer time and was not closed.

Lastly i thought that my unintentional mistake was not so great to ban me from this site and what these members were doing there continuously..... and what the moderator was doing at the mean time.

At that time nither Kaka ji and nor DnD sir interviened..as they were also not regular......

At that time continuous reposting of jokes was prevalent on the section but no body cared.

After 2 Months i again visited the site and seen the quality postings of Kaka ji and DnD sir and again i started posting on the site.....

Now you can understand what i want to convey..... Its the behaviour of the members which affect the mood of new member and the quality of the postings affect the older members. I my view thats the reason for all what is happening to the members. If it comes in mind to a member that it is a unorganised site without control, he will discontinue login to the site. Though it is more than a site and social netowrk, its a biggest family of jats. But there are other sites for social interaction, a member has the option to switch ove to them.


For the Reference one can read full thread http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19973

and if limited time then pages 7-10 what was happening and what was moderator doing that time.

Its not the reponsibility of moderators to go and check each and every thread and delete that as they have also limited time what we have. Its the responsibility of each and every member to keep the site clean. If one understands his/her responsibility these problems will not arise.
 
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moderators

ill call some (not all) the present lot of moderators as a bunch of jokers, an am prepared to be banned for this statement of mine , i exclude satayveer from this group as he has been very prompt to alll the queries.
this infraction has been made a joke on this site,on very flimsy reason you get a infraction an then it hangs like a blot on your profile. if it says infraction expired then let it expire from the profile why keep it like infracton- expired -1 point.
i was new to the site i posted my pic which was in a group,i should have been warned for it intially,,,, if i repeated it then give infraction. ok still fine, infraction given accepted, now i find members with group pics in their profiles(why double standards) .repeatd queries from my side has fallen on deaf ears which makes you fell unwanted on this site .
i find dudji,s posts as most educating an if they are banned in JL then what do i say abt the site.
some very good threads an posts on social, cultral,education draws very little or no attention/comments of our members but threads like
DIDI BOLA-500 REPLIES
SADAK KAISE PAAR KAARUN -700 REPLIES
BAAL KAB KATWAON- 500 REPLIES

WELL if the JL continous to function like this we are sure to loose members like dudiji, an JL WILL be left with members only like me.
 
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rohit62 said:

DIDI BOLA-500 REPLIES
SADAK KAISE PAAR KAARUN -700 REPLIES
BAAL KAB KATWAON- 500 REPLIES[/COLOR]

WELL if the JL continous to function like this we are sure to loose members like dudiji, an JL WILL be left with members only like me.
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Ha..ha..ha..ha...that is really very funny.
 
Ab dil nahin karta yahan aane ka.I don't know still as to why i log on to this portal.It is becoming a shear waste of time and energy now.Shortly i will stop visiting here.
 
devdahiya said:
Ab dil nahin karta yahan aane ka.I don't know still as to why i log on to this portal.It is becoming a shear waste of time and energy now.Shortly i will stop visiting here.
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Aap kay keyboard say likhi hui baat shobha nahin deti:) but I know excatly what you mean.

Per saari baat hamarai expecatations jaisi ho, yeh jurrori nahin.

Jatland mimics life so no surprises.
 
devdahiya said:
Aaissa kuchh special nahin hei par patta nahin kyun aaissa laggne laga hei ki this time i spent here can be put to some practical use in real life.It is just a gut feeling bebey DAKKDARNNI!
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manne tae pehlaa hee kahi thee, alienate urself as n when required.....stated the reasons as well (the one u r giving nw of time n energy sink was one of 'em..:)), pata nahin kaun si post thee (I guess this thread only..have a bad memory...:o)

Koi naa.......take it easy....cheer up now..(Jo bhee ho kal phir aayegaa...kisi ke ke hone naa hone sae kisi ko koi farak nahin padta Kaks..Life goes on...philosophical but true..:))
 
devdahiya said:
Worthy members, lets have a meaningful and free debate as to why the members don't stick around on this portal for good.I have seen many dedicated and nice members calling it a quite.What are the reasons....please have your say without a fight of course.Go ahead please!
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well kaka I dont know where from you get the ideas to start such kinda of threads.....but what is the need of debate for those who dont loggin or stick around......as you or anyone else cant decide about the people who are not here....its for them to decide why they are not here.....


आढे हाम चाहे कितनी भी बहस कर लयाँ ..... कोई के कर सकै सै.....ईब किसै का आधै आण का जी ऐ ना करै तो आप या और कोई के करैगा.......सोचण की बात सै :D :p :D :p
 
kaka sahi sahi batao....kade kaki ne to BELLAN naa maar diya taat pe :p :D
eib Kaki ka order aa liya to fer kuch na ho sakta!! eib to president bhi kuch naa kar sakti!! :(:(

maada sa prakash daaliyo kimme!! :):p

Waise ab aap jaa hi rehe ho to we'll miss u :( :(

kyunki....JAANE WALE KO KISNE ROKA HAI?... :rolleyes: :)


Rock on
Jit


devdahiya said:
Aaissa kuchh special nahin hei par patta nahin kyun aaissa laggne laga hei ki this time i spent here can be put to some practical use in real life.It is just a gut feeling bebey DAKKDARNNI!
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devdahiya said:
Worthy members, lets have a meaningful and free debate as to why the members don't stick around on this portal for good.I have seen many dedicated and nice members calling it a quite.What are the reasons....please have your say without a fight of course.Go ahead please!
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because some people and some mods have made JL a sister concern of RSS, Bajrang Dal and VHP---too narrow and orthodox in outlook. it suffocates
 
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