Please call "Rashtrapramukh" instead of "Rashtrapati" !!!!!!

DrRajpalSingh said:
Dear Friend,

It is not so. Please go through Constitution of India and then come out to comment on this very important topic.

The founding fathers of the constitution were very wise and talented persons, who created the present system of government by enshrining the best possible alternatives for the country. India, electing to be a democratic republic union needed, and needs even today, a duly elected Stfigure head to represent Indian State and a dully elected Prime Minister to run the Government. They envisaged checks and balances by defining the roles of all the three organs of the Government i.e. executive, legislature and judiciary and that is why indian democracy survives and thrives even today whereas in so many other countries iwhich became democracies around the same time, dictatorships took roots by dethroning the democracies. Yes, if some flaws have crept in, the Parliament elected on the universal franchise in the country is competent enough to rectify the same. But none could abolish the basic structure of our constitution as has been made amply clear by the hon'ble Supreme Court of India.

Could you cite one example from the countries of the world where post of the Head of State does not exist whether he/she be a monarch or President. Then why and how we can say such type of things.

Comments based on logical facts on the post are invited.

Thanks and regards,
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Mr, Rajpal please do not mind, I HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THE CONSTITUTION once, BUT SEVERAL TIMES, i HAD POL SCIENCE TILL GRADUATION, THAN DID LAW, I am law practitioner for last more than 30 yaers, Had been JT Director legal in Delhi and had long association with constitution experts, even when I was drafting The present NCC Act and Rules, I had to discuss various provisions of this holy book, Since my first master was in History, so I have seen the provisions of the constitution from that angle also. I can say with my full conviction that the people who drafted the constitution were wise or unwise but the system/provisions are unsuitable, constitutions of five countries were copied, merged and drafted blindly with biased mind with out any thought/consideration to our requirements/suitability. Neither the constitution drafting committee had representatives from all areas/sections of our society nor they were capable or free to choose by themselves the provisions/system, even free discussions in parliament/assembly on the constitution were not allowed by Nehru and co.
However, I am not against the post of the president nor the topic of the post say so, Please donot be under wrong impression about constitution, I think, you need to read again with careful and analytic eyes, also donot make the book as a shield/weapon to force your views, Also the topic is different please, discuss the toppic. regards
 
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भोत बढ़िया लिख्या होड़ स संजीव भाई , जा या चिठ्ठी उह बावरचन ने मिली होगी ते एक बे ते माड़ी सी शर्म ते आइये होगी | ऊँ इह धरती पे केरा एक भी कान्ग्रेस्सी इस्सा नि होगा, जिह ने न्यू बेरा हो अक शरम,हया ,देशभक्ति क्यां ने कहया करें | अर डा. राजपाल जी , जा जब विषय रास्ट्रपत्नी ( में ते इह बावरचन ने न्यू-ए कहया करूं ) का आग्या ते इब्ब सब किम्मे लिखाजागा | डा, हिल्दा राजा ने एक विषय छोड़ दिया ,जिह में इह बावरचन पे ,इह के खसम अर छोर्याँ पे महाराष्ट्र में कई करी होड़ ह्त्या के आरोप सें जो की इह के राष्ट्र पत्नी बने पाछे खारिज कर दिए थे | जुकर सोनिया ,राहुल संविधान के अनुसार कोई भी पद पे आसीन नहीं हो सकते ,न्यू-ए या भी राष्ट्रपत्नी नि बन सकती | इह बावरचन का रास्ट्रपत्नी बनाना भी अस्वेंधानिक स |
 
cutejaatsandeep said:
does anybody know about riots in kosi kalan in mathura between jats and muslims on 01/06/12 that was a friday.....i dont know how to start a thread.can any1 plz do it for me.thanks
http://twocircles.net/2012jun02/what_happens_during_and_after_every_riot_also_followed_mathura.html
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Friend,
You can click first Jat Land Forums, CLICK ANY ONE OF THE MAIN SEVEN FORUMS AND then see on the left hand side, there is marked post new thread. Or in any difficulty contact the Editors or administrator for help.
Thanks
 
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sanjeev_balyan said:
रविंदर भाई ,
माफ करना थोड़ा सा ऑफ टॉपिक हूँ, अग्रेजी का एक लेटर वर्तमान वाली ( राष्ट्रपति या राष्ट्राद्धक्ष) कुछ भी कह लो , को लिखा गया (सच है या झूठ बेरा नहीं , कॉपी पेस्ट है)
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I read the letter, not sure if this really happened or not. par sahi likha se, issi-2 isse laayak hoya kare. One of the most incompetent head of the state of recent times. A total, complete and utter failure. If we look back at her tenure it seems like that she was here on a picnic. kadde te ladaku jahaaj me udde hai, kadde submarine me gottey maare hai. khabar te nu bhi padhi thi ak she has traveled overseas at least once in 35-37 days. ek naya kaarnaama yo kar diya --> LINK . saare raakass khulle chhod diye, few of them have committed heinous crimes like raping and murdering a 6 y.o. ke soch k maafi de di bera na.
Whenever I see her on TV/internet I feel disgusted to see who is our president.
 
in fact after dr.rajendra prasad and dr.sarvpalli radhakrishnan we did'nt get any appropriate candidate and to some extent dr.abdul kalam otherwise all were mere rubber stamps
 
balraaj said:
in fact after dr.rajendra prasad and dr.sarvpalli radhakrishnan we did'nt get any appropriate candidate and to some extent dr.abdul kalam otherwise all were mere rubber stamps
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How do you evaluate other presidents like Dr Zaqir Hussain, N. Sanjeeva Reddy, Dr S.D Sharma and R. Venkatramman, the freedom fighters and Statesmen who occupied this august post of the Head of State.

Thanks,
 
Fateh said:
Mr, Rajpal please do not mind, I HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THE CONSTITUTION once, BUT SEVERAL TIMES, i HAD POL SCIENCE TILL GRADUATION, THAN DID LAW, I am law practitioner for last more than 30 yaers, Had been JT Director legal in Delhi and had long association with constitution experts, even when I was drafting The present NCC Act and Rules, I had to discuss various provisions of this holy book, Since my first master was in History, so I have seen the provisions of the constitution from that angle also. I can say with my full conviction that the people who drafted the constitution were wise or unwise but the system/provisions are unsuitable, constitutions of five countries were copied, merged and drafted blindly with biased mind with out any thought/consideration to our requirements/suitability. Neither the constitution drafting committee had representatives from all areas/sections of our society nor they were capable or free to choose by themselves the provisions/system, even free discussions in parliament/assembly on the constitution were not allowed by Nehru and co.
However, I am not against the post of the president nor the topic of the post say so, Please donot be under wrong impression about constitution, I think, you need to read again with careful and analytic eyes, also donot make the book as a shield/weapon to force your views, Also the topic is different please, discuss the toppic. regards
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I salute your scholarship but disagree with your criticism of the Founding fathers of the constitution or their style of work. It is unbelievable that any person [whosoever he/she may be] could gag their voice unreasonably.

I would like to make it clear that I have no personal views except the views enshrined in the constitution, therefore, there is no question of forcing my views on anyone. If my participation in the discussion on the topic is not to the liking of some persons, I cannot do anything in that case.

Here ends the preaching from both sides, thank you.
 
Nobody was freedom fighter, it is different thing that false certificates might have been issued to them, Dear by obtaining doctorate degree, one dose not become statesman, there is nothing to talk much about three but sharma was big roug, chour and politician
 
Dr saheb, do not get upset, it is not the question of some body liking your discussion, I have noticed that you have hardly given your views but asked from every body and contradicted or down played others views, dear every one of us has heart to feel good or bad, as for as the preaching is concern, I thing you started it for most of us including elders like me, brother leave other thing but have some respect for age and experience, DEAR, STILL YOU HAVE NOT GOT PROPER IDEA AS TO HOW THIS CONSTITUTION CAME UP. PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME, READ THINGS AND COME BACK FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE DONOT MIND, IT IS A DISCUSSION ONLY, YOU GIVE YOUR POINTS, regards
 
Fateh said:
Dr saheb, do not get upset, it is not the question of some body liking your discussion, I have noticed that you have hardly given your views but asked from every body and contradicted or down played others views, dear every one of us has heart to feel good or bad, as for as the preaching is concern, I thing you started it for most of us including elders like me, brother leave other thing but have some respect for age and experience, DEAR, STILL YOU HAVE NOT GOT PROPER IDEA AS TO HOW THIS CONSTITUTION CAME UP. PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME, READ THINGS AND COME BACK FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE DONOT MIND, IT IS A DISCUSSION ONLY, YOU GIVE YOUR POINTS, regards
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kindly accept my due regards and thanks my elder brother.
 
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Fateh said:
Nobody was freedom fighter, it is different thing that false certificates might have been issued to them, Dear by obtaining doctorate degree, one dose not become statesman, there is nothing to talk much about three but sharma was big roug, chour and politician
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If you think that all these great persons, who suffered at the hands of the British authorities in various ways for the country's freedom, got false certificates as freedom fighters, then what one can say further on the issue.

May their souls rest in peace at the feet of the Almighty!!
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
If you think that all these great persons, who suffered at the hands of the British authorities in various ways for the country's freedom, got false certificates as freedom fighters, then what one can say further on the issue.

May their souls rest in peace at the feet of the Almighty!!
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Dear, all Indian people WHO WERE THERE DURING BRITISH TIME, SUFFERED IN SOME WAY OR THE OTHER, so should all qualify for freedom fighter title, other wise nothing extra ordinary was done by those you have mentioned above, Yes they were lucky to reach upto the top post and thus they deserve respect but not in that contest as you said. Sanjiva ready deserve batter place out of four above due to his simplicity and love for kisaan and poor, let their soul rest in peace, regards


 
Fateh said:
Dear, all Indian people WHO WERE THERE DURING BRITISH TIME, SUFFERED IN SOME WAY OR THE OTHER, so should all qualify for freedom fighter title, other wise nothing extra ordinary was done by those you have mentioned above, Yes they were lucky to reach upto the top post and thus they deserve respect but not in that contest as you said. Sanjiva ready deserve batter place out of four above due to his simplicity and love for kisaan and poor, let their soul rest in peace, regards
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Thanks for further clarifying your views on the issue and regards.
 
VPannu said:
Madam ka ek or naya kaarnaama. Legi sab kimme samett ke - http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.co...eceived-as-president/articleshow/15330983.cms
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Pannu यो राष्ट्रपति भवन चिकल्याया कोणी जा सके के क्यूकर इ क्यूकर..... इसने भी टिकवा दयो अमरावती में..... उन भी ताई ने कीमे छोड़ा कोणी इस में पाछे .......!!!!!
 
rajpaldular said:
मित्रों ! क्या आप मुझसे सहमत हैं कि अब समय आ गया है कि हमारे भारत के "राष्ट्रपति" को राष्ट्रपति ना कहकर "राष्ट्रप्रमुख" कहा जाये, क्योंकि "राष्ट्रप्रमुख" स्त्रीलिंग एवं पुल्लिंग दोनों में प्रयोग हो सकता है जबकि राष्ट्रपति केवल पुल्लिंग में ही प्रयुक्त हो सकता है.

कृपया अपने अमूल्य विचार इस पर व्यक्त कीजिये.
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Thumbs-Up !!
 
अति सुंदर - अति सुंदर विचार है राष्ट्र प्रमुख, राष्ट्र पति की जगह जिसे उच्चारण में भी झिजक हो सकती है एक बंगलाभाषी को
 
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