Political Party by IItians...

[singh1981]

what do u say?looks like something different then usual.....


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1384411.cms


BANGALORE: Seems like Mani Rathnam's Yuva is getting off the reels. Five IITians, all in their 20s, have decided to take up mainstream politics. The youths, based in Jodhpur, will be in the city to campaign for their national party, "Paritrana'' , which was launched in Jodhpur on Friday.

"Giving up handsome pay packages, comfort of family and support of friends wasn't that easy,'' says Tanmay Rajpurohit, the national president of the party and B Tech in aerospace from IIT Bombay followed by an MS from GeorgiaTech and double masters in arts.

"But my inner voice told me that I should invest my efforts in my country rather than making my pockets heavier,'' said Ajit Ashwalayan Shukla, vice president of the party.

"People think we are crazy so much so that our families have also failed to understand our motto, but we won't give up,'' he added.

The core team of "Paritrana' ' comprises Rajpurohit , Shukla, Amit Beesen, also the vice president and a B Tech (Mechanical) from IIT Bombay and a LLB graduate, Chandrashekhar (national treasurer), B Tech (computer science) from IIT Kanpur, Bharat Sundaram, the PRO of the party and B Tech from IIT Kanpur and PhD in electronics from Melbourne.

"Paritrana means complete relief from the various causes of distress, and that is what we want to do for our people,'' added Chandrashekhar. Low funds have not discouraged them in their efforts of holding door-to-door campaigns in Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and parts of Maharashtra.

"We strongly feel that the politicians of today are no longer the voice of the common man but instead they voice their own personal agendas through which they can fetch maximum votes,'' said Shukla.

"We are not here for the power game. We are here to deal with the grassroots issues of each and every small village that we come across,'' added Shukla.

The zeal and burning desire of the five youngsters sounds sincere. "I believe that we are just five ordinary boys from the middle class family with no godfathers in politics but have dared to come forward and fight for our rights,'' said Chandrashekhar. "And we will succeed in it,'' he added.

After the launch of the party at the Suchana Kendra in Jodhpur, the party members, as a part of their promotional campaign will tour Jodhpur, Udaipur, Ahmedabad, Mumbai, Pune, Bangalore and Chennai

regrds,
Sukhbir Singh

 

[raj2rif]

Excellent Idea

It is an excellent initiative by the people who are cream of our country. I hope they can continue and maintain their agenda/vision. Their hands needs to be strengthened. Our current politicians and the mafia will do their best to unsettle them, but we the public must support them. I have not seen the movie "Rang de Basanti" but if the movie has been able to motivate the youth of the country to this extent to do some thing good for the country, then probably it may be the right choice for an oscar.
Let us wait and watch the progress of this political party. I had been advocating all along that an organization that is taking up the responsibility to do some thing good for the nation has to be a political one. We need to make our presence felt in the system, where we just can't be ignored.
Good luck to these IIT youths.

 

[singh1981]

yup at the frst glance it looks quite good......
even this is the response i got from one of my frnd.
" if they decide to contest elections from Delhi i will surely vote for them...........
I am fed up with stupid, illiterate, incompetent politicians..............."

but my point is ......
As they r from IIT's or may be from some other good eng. college....but is that sufficent to prove ki vo ek ache politican honge....
i mean physics or math ki 10 kaidi problem solve karne ka ye matlab to nahi ki vo har kaam kar sakta hai.....

 

[raj2rif]

That May Not Be True

yup at the frst glance it looks quite good......
even this is the response i got from one of my frnd.
" if they decide to contest elections from Delhi i will surely vote for them...........
I am fed up with stupid, illiterate, incompetent politicians..............."

but my point is ......
As they r from IIT's or may be from some other good eng. college....but is that sufficent to prove ki vo ek ache politican honge....
i mean physics or math ki 10 kaidi problem solve karne ka ye matlab to nahi ki vo har kaam kar sakta hai.....

Dear Mr. Sukhbir Dhanda Ji,
Firstly, while your fears may be genuine, it is a chance we need to give to our youth. Whether you can or can't solve a math problem does not in any way affect the capabilities of a social worker or a politician per say. Ability to solve the math problem certainly does give an advantage to the people to make valuable decisions for math works on logic. Unless we give them a chance we would never know if they could do it. And the best thing is that with current crop of politicians being what it is, we have nothing to lose, so why not atleast try?

 

[pammusangwan]

A Great Step Needed For Hindustani......

what do u say?looks like something different then usual.....


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1384411.cms



"We are not here for the power game. We are here to deal with the grassroots issues of each and every small village that we come across,'' added Shukla.


regrds,
Sukhbir Singh

This is really a big step forward for a NEW INDIA....., but still we can`t judge them in one go, so first atleast we need to participate them and know exactly that if they are the one who really knows the meaning of DAND and the one who can really regulate it on good side rather then negative side.
http://www.paritrana.org/ideology.htm

Their ideology (if they are on it) "The role of the System, the Government, the State, or that of a King is to "regulate" Dand, not to hold it.

this guy "Amit Beesen" National Vice-President of PARTY is from ROHTAK as well and was my senior in school and I he used to be a very decent boy in school.


Cheers

 

[rkumar]

why can't we Jatlanders form a political front along the same lines and join progressive group like these young IItians ? Let us add mass with such groups and convert into a real critical mass. We may not win elections, but we can certainly stire public views on impartant national issues. We can be a real patriotic front.

RK^2

 

[vinodks]

Rkiji, Namaste, good to see you again) Hmmm, your ever-green willingness to start something new for betterment of our community is very encouraging... Political party started by IITians is really promising step to eracidate corruption in politics...

As you showed your interest in starting something like that we support you to fullest... so lets start a political party... I was wondering if you are willing to take a lead and guide us through it... so whats the first step we do?... What is your vision and goal that may be achieved thru it? and whats is tentative deadlines by which we aim to launch this party?... What would be our agenda and how it's gonna be different from other parties?... please answer...

Thanks
Vinod

why can't we Jatlanders form a political front along the same lines and join progressive group like these young IItians ? Let us add mass with such groups and convert into a real critical mass. We may not win elections, but we can certainly stire public views on impartant national issues. We can be a real patriotic front.

RK^2

 

[rkumar]

Rkiji, Namaste, good to see you again) Hmmm, your ever-green willingness to start something new for betterment of our community is very encouraging... Political party started by IITians is really promising step to eracidate corruption in politics...

As you showed your interest in starting something like that we support you to fullest... so lets start a political party... I was wondering if you are willing to take a lead and guide us through it... so whats the first step we do?... What is your vision and goal that may be achieved thru it? and whats is tentative deadlines by which we aim to launch this party?... What would be our agenda and how it's gonna be different from other parties?... please answer...

Thanks
Vinod

Let us call it Bharat Vikas Manch. May be members might have better names to suggest. This Manch can act like a true political/ social front. Our main agenda would be to see India a real world power in next 10-20 years. This manch will be run on hard core patriotism and if required, will take even head on against all those whose actions are dragging India backward. There won't be any place for popular type of politics. We will have shadow ministers who will be true experts in their subjects. Let us meet somewhere in 3rd week of April and launch the front with full fanfare...

RK^2

 

[raj2rif]

I support it

Dear Rajendra Ji,
Yes, that is a good idea. I had been propogating to have our own political organization dedicated to the betterment of Bharat and not the individuals. We need to serve the real India which lives in villages. The IITn's Party could be a good partner in getting our message across. Let us start the discussion and see how can we best do it.

 

[rkumar]

Dear Rajendra Ji,
Yes, that is a good idea. I had been propogating to have our own political organization dedicated to the betterment of Bharat and not the individuals. We need to serve the real India which lives in villages. The IITn's Party could be a good partner in getting our message across. Let us start the discussion and see how can we best do it.

I am all for it Tavathia Sahab... Let us join hands and make it happen.. Let us support even other politicians whom we think are doing great job to make India shine and oppose openly all those who are shame for the nation.

RK^2

 

[positivelook]

Rk and tavathia uncle

I m sure u both are experienced and knows ifs and buts of life but do u people think that sitting on foreign land and making a political party in india can go together. This really a big problem and in my views it very hard to do this. One more thing abt these IIT guys is that so far they only form a party and there is no difference in agenda cos every political party talks abt all these things like corruption, bharat vikas and etc. etc. So we cant say that these guys are going to do something well for the nation at this stage atleast. Formiong a political party needs lots of things such as man power and Karyakarta who can work day and night for party.
Haan ek baat ho sakti hai akk aane wale time ke berra political party bhee Internet ke through kaam karn lag jyaan arrr poster, banner, ghoshna, election campaign sab kutch Internet par hone lag jaye than it is possible to form a political party while sitting outside India.

Abhimanyu Phougat

 

[positivelook]

Party Suprimo se nivedan hai kee agar aap mujhe party mein shaamil kar sakein toh mein bhee tyaar hoon. Ho sakta hai aapke saath meri soch bhee badal jaye.

Abhi

 

[raj2rif]

You are Right

Rk and tavathia uncle

I m sure u both are experienced and knows ifs and buts of life but do u people think that sitting on foreign land and making a political party in india can go together. This really a big problem and in my views it very hard to do this. One more thing abt these IIT guys is that so far they only form a party and there is no difference in agenda cos every political party talks abt all these things like corruption, bharat vikas and etc. etc. So we cant say that these guys are going to do something well for the nation at this stage atleast. Formiong a political party needs lots of things such as man power and Karyakarta who can work day and night for party.
Haan ek baat ho sakti hai akk aane wale time ke berra political party bhee Internet ke through kaam karn lag jyaan arrr poster, banner, ghoshna, election campaign sab kutch Internet par hone lag jaye than it is possible to form a political party while sitting outside India.

Abhimanyu Phougat

Dear Abhimanyu,
The points raised by you are valid and merit due consideration. Forming a political party is one thing and achieveing the political objectives is another.
First point first. Sitting in foreign land and controlling it or operating it: Well atleast I don't have any intention to control the party if formed for it will be the privilage of the person on the ground with masses. Our contribution could be on brainstorming the subjects and finding a workable solution to the various national and international problems that surface in a political system. We sitting abroad probably can contribute toward the organizational structure and internal administration of the party. We can't be the face of the party and that task has to be performed by the members who are in direct contact with the masses.

Just on a lighter side: If people can win elections from Jail, why can't we run a party from aborad? Think over it. It is basically the communication that is most important. With the technology so advanced, real time information can be passed and even video confrencing can be arranged for specific purposes.

Policy formation is an important issue which requires the brain of the party. We possibly could contribute to that part of the organization.

The majority of the work had to be done by the people in India.

 

[vinodks]

Arre yaar, I guess you missed my point... I am no intention of forming a political party but if RKji is going to form one I will certainly try to sit in opposition... Because cricitism would help in making the party better... You and Sumit Dahiya should join hands and help RKji and Col Tawathiaji to form such front...
I will remind RKji in 2nd week of April about the meeting in case he forgets and will ask in 4th week about the minutes of meeting... Oh yeah I will try my best to be in meeting to ask more questions))

Vinod

Rk and tavathia uncle

I m sure u both are experienced and knows ifs and buts of life but do u people think that sitting on foreign land and making a political party in india can go together. This really a big problem and in my views it very hard to do this. One more thing abt these IIT guys is that so far they only form a party and there is no difference in agenda cos every political party talks abt all these things like corruption, bharat vikas and etc. etc. So we cant say that these guys are going to do something well for the nation at this stage atleast. Formiong a political party needs lots of things such as man power and Karyakarta who can work day and night for party.
Haan ek baat ho sakti hai akk aane wale time ke berra political party bhee Internet ke through kaam karn lag jyaan arrr poster, banner, ghoshna, election campaign sab kutch Internet par hone lag jaye than it is possible to form a political party while sitting outside India.

Abhimanyu Phougat

 

[rkumar]

Rk and tavathia uncle

I m sure u both are experienced and knows ifs and buts of life but do u people think that sitting on foreign land and making a political party in india can go together. This really a big problem and in my views it very hard to do this. One more thing abt these IIT guys is that so far they only form a party and there is no difference in agenda cos every political party talks abt all these things like corruption, bharat vikas and etc. etc. So we cant say that these guys are going to do something well for the nation at this stage atleast. Formiong a political party needs lots of things such as man power and Karyakarta who can work day and night for party.
Haan ek baat ho sakti hai akk aane wale time ke berra political party bhee Internet ke through kaam karn lag jyaan arrr poster, banner, ghoshna, election campaign sab kutch Internet par hone lag jaye than it is possible to form a political party while sitting outside India.

Abhimanyu Phougat

Points well taken. Let us now ask the same questions about all those who are in politics and sitting in India;

1. How much we hear of Rahul Gandhi visiting UP or Bihar ?
2. How much Advani goes to Bihar or West Bengal?

90% of Jatlanders are in India and only 10% are outside. Those who are outside, heve their soul and heart in India. Gandhi Ji was outside when he launched his political career and then moved full time to India. Sam Pitroda is a US national and still contributing a lot for India by chairing many important missions. Where there is will, there is way. Let us make sure that we hold at least two major political conclaves each year to educate people about our programmes and some of us are regularly accessible right in India. Let us think of suitable party membership fee so that financially we can run party affairs and don't have to beg money in streets. Overseas wing of our party can do a lot by mobilising media and public opinion against corrupt politicians.

RK^2

 

[dahiyarules]

I admire the boys' enthsiasm. but, unfortunately as most of you know, I am not impressed.

The solution to government isnt more government. The solution is less government, becuase the problem is the government.

In India, government has failed at pretty much everything, except for being really good at not doing what they are supposed to do.

Forming more political parties and contesting elections ensures eternity for this problem called government.

Let private enterprises have the freedom to provide us with more services to the public. Becuase when we pay for something, we deserve to get what we pay for. And if that doesnt happen, we atleast have someone to hold accountable. When goods and services are provide by the government, we dont have anyone to hold accountable. Who has the courage to confront the government. When people phone lines die out, or their electricity connection is not turned on for ages, or their water supply is pathetic, people dont go to government offices and demand an explanation. Instead, they fold their hands, and plead for help, only if someone just had the mercy to listen to their prayers.

Dont think that this scenario will be improved by having a better government. There is no such thing as "better government." Government doesnt come in vanilla, chocolate and strawberry flavors, that you get to choose. It just comes in one flavor, and that is the one that no one likes.

We need to work more towards reducing the influence of government in private lives, if we are really concerned about the state of affairs.

Running for office to with a mission to reduce the government is something I may support. But if someone is running for office to become part of the government, is something I wont endorse even over my grave.

Please give it a thought.

I am updating my website www.sumitdahiya.com regularly. I request you to give it a glance once in a while.

Thanks,
Sumit

 

[lokeshpawar]

To all of u,
Ram-Ram,

Sir,
Frankly speaking Ihave been observing that we people share our views on each topic and that too very critically. But it is really not going to help us till and until we implement them. So we should think over this issue. How, who, when, what and why of every issue should be considered in implementation terms. Brainstorming without implementation is wastage of time and slowly we will loose our interst on these kind of issues.Tomorrow i am going to Nicobar for a month trip, I am not sure wether I will get internet facility there, if, than i will surely respond to you.

Regards,

LOKESH PAWAR>

 

[cooljat]

I salute these real young leaders of nation, only young guns can take revolutions n I think time has come now, I wish them all the very best!

salutations & kudos to them all!

rock on
Jit

 

[mukeshkumar007]

it Bharat Vikas Manch. May be members might have better names to suggest. This Manch can act like a true political/ social front. RK^2

It is indeed a good idea and now we need to shape it asap. Without forming a political manch our problem can’t be solved. If it can be done then I would surely join it as an active member.

 

[naresh.mehta]

I disagree...

Dear Mr Sumit...
I find the post by you in a very pessimistic mode.
I hope the statement by you that "Government is the problem" is something you have really pondered upon and not some usual sarcastic comment we people are so used to pass!!
If an automobile fails or breaks down, does it imply that we should stop using the vehicles itself and revert to walking ??? No, it rather indicates that something has to be changed/improved in the vehicle...
The government of Indian soverign got into action in Nov 1949 (after the end of Interim Govt) and soon the constitution saw the daylight (26 jan 50).. The Govt and the constitution are no jokes to be made fun of by pessimists at some internet forums. I find it in really bad taste and consider it a serious unpatriotic act.
There is no reason to lose faith in the system itself.. System is flawed due to antisocial elements. It is not the Govt... but the people who are corrupt and of low self esteem and rather lower ideals who keep on electing wrong candidates for some paltry aid or worse in the name of caste and religion!!
Laloo was in power for ages.. His Govt was bad... fine.. Bad govt.. But I guess it was because of the people of bihar that they had such a CM... !!
Dear Sumit, Govt does come in flavours ... flavours which people even like.. But the Chef (or watever an icemaker is called!!) got to be real good ... He has to make the icecream with pure heart and full sincerity.. The politicians at the time of freedom , had reached there after a long freedom struggle.. They had given up their bright career to fight british (Now please dont come with the usual pessimistic disparaging of Nehru and Gandhi!.. ) And no wonder the Govt under Nehru was free of corruption...
As the time passed on dynasties came and godfather system flourished.. Politics came in the hands of some few people... and the downfall began! But it is not irreversible.. things can be set back on track!
Why iitians' act is more appreciable is because they have not been driven by any urge to earn money.. They could have made decent earning in corporate world.. The only reason they are out there is to serve.. And this motive of SERVICE is what had been missing for long...
So please Sir be optimistic and do not disparage the genuine Govt servants with such an indifference!

I admire the boys' enthsiasm. but, unfortunately as most of you know, I am not impressed.

The solution to government isnt more government. The solution is less government, becuase the problem is the government.

In India, government has failed at pretty much everything, except for being really good at not doing what they are supposed to do.

Forming more political parties and contesting elections ensures eternity for this problem called government.

Let private enterprises have the freedom to provide us with more services to the public. Becuase when we pay for something, we deserve to get what we pay for. And if that doesnt happen, we atleast have someone to hold accountable. When goods and services are provide by the government, we dont have anyone to hold accountable. Who has the courage to confront the government. When people phone lines die out, or their electricity connection is not turned on for ages, or their water supply is pathetic, people dont go to government offices and demand an explanation. Instead, they fold their hands, and plead for help, only if someone just had the mercy to listen to their prayers.

Dont think that this scenario will be improved by having a better government. There is no such thing as "better government." Government doesnt come in vanilla, chocolate and strawberry flavors, that you get to choose. It just comes in one flavor, and that is the one that no one likes.

We need to work more towards reducing the influence of government in private lives, if we are really concerned about the state of affairs.

Running for office to with a mission to reduce the government is something I may support. But if someone is running for office to become part of the government, is something I wont endorse even over my grave.

Please give it a thought.

I am updating my website www.sumitdahiya.com regularly. I request you to give it a glance once in a while.

Thanks,
Sumit