Purchase of Brides

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dahiyars

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Dear all,
In a survey done by me of 12 villages in Haryana, it has been observed that purchase of brides from other states is increasing. Study showed 49 purchased brides in these villages and there was a big age difference also.The maximum number of purchased brides in one village was 13. Most of these girls are from very poor families . If this goes on it will have serios consequencies for Society of Haryana.

How to fight against this?

Dr R.S.Dahiya
 
Agree with Abhishek's response -- stop female foeticide. Additionally, we need to frankly discuss family planning and population control in our society. Also, perhaps revisit some paradigms adhered to by khap-panchayats, although not sure about this one....
 
I dont know how many of you remember a post made about two years ago. I asked Jatland members to post the first names of girls from their families below the marriageable age to prove that they were families that were safe for the girl child. You will be shocked at how few dared respond. The purchase of brides is a direct consequence of the barbaric reality that even members of Jatland are connected to this tragedy. How is it possible thateven in a selected educated segment of society there were less than a hundred girl children to report. To fix this problem tomorrow pick up a mirror today and give yourself a long hard look. The problem begins and ends with you! How many sisters do you have? How many cousins, daughters and aunts? Why are they missing and who is responsible for this systematic murder of the Jat Kaum.
 
hi all

This is really a bad thing in haryana tht we are still killing the unborn gals. This is really a serious problem which is arising day by day i think there is a need of setting up a commision on behalf of haryana govt. and some more programmes should be launched by the govt. which can help in making haryana equal on gender ratio.

Abhimanyu
jats!the real tigers.
 
positivelook said:
hi all

This is really a bad thing in haryana tht we are still killing the unborn gals. This is really a serious problem which is arising day by day i think there is a need of setting up a commision on behalf of haryana govt. and some more programmes should be launched by the govt. which can help in making haryana equal on gender ratio.

Abhimanyu
jats!the real tigers.

Is this killing of unborn girls (abortion) happpening only in haryana?
What I think can work is maybe passing a law banning abortion unless its special circumstances like rape or some other valid excuse. The doctors who abuse it then must be punished severely.
 
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You can pass as many laws as you want (and, in any case, the primary
cause of this nowadays, sex determination, is illegal already), but unless the
underlying factors that make people want to have male children do not
dissipate you'll keep on seeing this.

The solution will necessarily have to go back to the core of the problem....and the
solution to that primarily has to be social not some legal enforcement.
 
a good news from haryana govt.

hi all

I dont know whether u guys know or not but as we are discussing this topic here its just like haryana govt. has heard our voice and a "Laadli" yojna is starting on 15th august when haryana govt. will give 5000 rupees per year to every second girl born in any house in haryana and this will be given up to the age of 5 years.
A small step toward increaseing the girls in haryana from the haryana govt. !

We hope some more good announcements will come in the way as the Hooda govt. progress its term in haryana.

Abhimanyu
jats!the real tigers
 
Oh God ! A young kid claiming to be jat, talking in Bengali or bhojpuri. After all mothers have greater influence on a child.
 
Dahiya Sahab This is just a beginning . Aage aage dekho hota hai kya. Woh din door nahin jab aap 30% se jyada brides non jat paaoge. And imagine what kind of future rtelatives would be?
 
Don't We Lack Sensitivity Towards Women

raj_rathee said:
You can pass as many laws as you want (and, in any case, the primary
cause of this nowadays, sex determination, is illegal already), but unless the
underlying factors that make people want to have male children do not
dissipate you'll keep on seeing this.

The solution will necessarily have to go back to the core of the problem....and the
solution to that primarily has to be social not some legal enforcement.


Respected members,

Raj uncle has hit the nail in the head. We need to start respecting women by:
1. Treating with respect they deserve.
2. NOT TO GIVE THEM PARTIAL TREATMENT vis a vis a male child from very birth.
3. give them proper education.
4. Not taking them as burdon.
5. stop demanding dowry
6. Show respect to her gender and not treat her as a Sex object.
7. Let her breath free.

Having done that no law is required and i am sure that no body will kill their daughters. It is the fears associated with the growing ups, marriage expenditures [unwanted demandes from groom], her security from day one of her birth[as girls as young as 1 month old are being raped in this country] and then her adjustmant related ordeals after marriage that compell people to say no to a girl child. As said by Raj uncle it is a social problem and needs to be tackled as such. Let the girls stand tall and firm.




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It will be sad ofcourse

ramksehrawat said:
Oh God ! A young kid claiming to be jat, talking in Bengali or bhojpuri. After all mothers have greater influence on a child.


It will be very sad uncle ji.
 
Bingo Dhruv !

People need to realise that society is not an outgrowth of law, rather
law is an outgrowth of society.

What does law represent ? In its simplest form it is merely the set of rules
that govern the way of life and dealings that are commonly acceptable
as common sense to the average (common) citizen. No more and no less.

It represents the organisation of a society, and is merely a reflection
of it. It is not there to alter us, but is there to guide us to abide
by commonly acceptable protocols. It can't do more than that. It
won't alter who we are and how we think.

So, if society hasn't come to accept the female child as desirable
and equal to the male child, than no law can do much. It will be
impotent for all real purposes.

We already have laws agains sex determination, against dowry, against
casteism and so on. But since the underlying social mores have not changed,
the law is merely a mute, deaf and blind spectator.

Once underlying society changes, it is then that these laws will become
effectual.





dhruvdahiya said:
Respected members,

Raj uncle has hit the nail in the head. We need to start respecting women by:
1. Treating with respect they deserve.
2. NOT TO GIVE THEM PARTIAL TREATMENT vis a vis a male child from very birth.
3. give them proper education.
4. Not taking them as burdon.
5. stop demanding dowry
6. Show respect to her gender and not treat her as a Sex object.
7. Let her breath free.

Having done that no law is required and i am sure that no body will kill their daughters. It is the fears associted with the growing ups, marriage expenditures [unwanted demandes from groom], her security from day one of her birth[as girls as young as 1 month old are being raped in this country] and then her adjustmant related ordeals after marriage that compell people to say no to a girl child. As said by Raj uncle it is a social problem and needs to be tackled as such. Let the girls stant tall and firm.




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Dear All,

Thank you for participating in the debate creatively. Sorry the female members have not commented. I think they donot have much democratic space here on this web site. I think we should think on that also that how they have more innovative and frank participation on equal basis.Gender problem is seen here also. How to deal with.

More afterwords

R.S.Dahiya
 
dahiyars said:
Dear All,

Sorry the female members have not commented. I think they donot have much democratic space here on this web site. I think we should think on that also that how they have more innovative and frank participation on equal basis.Gender problem is seen here also. How to deal with.
R.S.Dahiya

Dear Sir, You have raised a very good question. Female member rarely participate in discussion. Behind it may be two reason - either they may not be interested in discussion or they haven't found a proper and healthy space....
I think they also should participate in the discussion with the valuable views especially in social topics.....
 
rkumar said:
Real Bhai Chara...LOL... jokes apart, issue is a very serious one. I am not sure if there are easy solutions. Why can't we export these exra Jats to Russia where I am told they have more women than men..or alternatively import wives from Russia..May be we would have a better gene pool..After all globalisation ka jamana hai...

RK^2
I remember four or five years back India Today ran a cover story on sharing of wives amongst jats of Muzaffarnagar district with photographs and everything.
On a lighter note, how would russian girls improve gene pool?? I thought jewish girls were better bet!
 
rkumar said:
Real Bhai Chara...LOL... jokes apart, issue is a very serious one. I am not sure if there are easy solutions. Why can't we export these exra Jats to Russia where I am told they have more women than men..or alternatively import wives from Russia..May be we would have a better gene pool..After all globalisation ka jamana hai...

RK^2

Rajendraji,

For every 100 Russian girls there are only 75-80 boys in not only Russia but almost all former USSR republics. Getting a Russian wife is not very difficult but they are difficult to maintain being spend thrift. Language, culture and their diet are other problems. My 2-3 friends married Russian girls and now they are repenting. Russian option is good only if you have enough money, know Russian and your food habits are non-vegetarian.
 
Women Problem

raj_rathee said:
its very bad that such thing of wife sharing and female foeticides are taking place in our society. we people just share our views on this site like time pass is anything done to prevent these things ? people had started to make fun of these things for our community. its very very serious problem with these kind of activities in our community i feel sometimes ashamed to be called JAT. we generally discuss who is jat and try to sort out history of jats. but my dears we will have to think of future of our community and live in present.try to do something like these things if u r real society promoter otherwise there r many sites for discussion. what i think is
1. we must focussed on education with help of gov and our society's so called industrials on village scale for standard education like baniyas r doing for so many years they take gov help to establish standard schools in the name of all societys progress but actually these r only for their own people.
2. try to get something sort of mass communication for women related problems the real cause for tyhese problem is DOWRY. IT IS ENGULFING OUR society .we can arrange something like group arrange marriages so that poor members of our society can have a positive attitude towards girls.
3. if we can organise our own mandi system that will help our farmer brothers and there will be huge amount of job generation for our own people inside panchayts itself. why r we people goes for this BANIYAS for mandis these are earning from us and makes fun of us.
these r my own ideas and beliefs. if it hurts anybody i regret for that.
IT IS THERE THERE ARE ONLY FEW WHO CAN PROGRESS THEMSELVES BUT THERE ARE MILLION ALSO WHO NEED OUR HANDS OF COOPERATION.
JAT HO TO YE KARO THABI HOGA JAT MAHAN.
 
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