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I am not scared or ashamed of using littlebit of Haryanvi Language myself including some "Jokes" of Tau or Katda if the setting is right and the audiance is able to understand what I am trying to convey, but to use it every time when the audiance/readers are as large as you see on internet, then using only Haryanvi or propogating it to that extent or identifying the use of Haryanvi with the love and hate of your own culture is some thing beyond my beliefs.

Let us grant Ekta that she did raise a good point and see her views in this light.

Col. Chacha, some of the language concerns are PERHAPS understandable..though perhaps difficult to resolve... Personally, I find it difficult to understand how anyone raised in Haryana, UP, Rajasthan, Delhi could have any serious issues in learning or at least managing with these local languages. Having had only two years of formal Hindi education, and having been outside India for most of my life, I personally do not think that most of these people would find it so difficult to at least manage. But I don't want to get into that here.

The original post and the subsequent responses were not
really directed at the use of Haryanvi language as such. If you would perhaps
care to reread Ekta's post, I feel a lot got said there...and her inability
to understand Haryanvi was NOT one of them.

And, oh by the way, Ekta DID write in English ! Clearly, judging by
her post, writing in English certainly is no fix for the "communication"
issues you were referring to. Her poorly communicated ideas might
actually suggest that she should have tried her local language instead !
 
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raj2rif said:
Dear Members,

Ms. Ekta had given a very good point to ponder, but I see lots of bashing in the garb of showing and proving to show one's love for their mother toung/language (trying to be on safer side so that the correct meaning of words is understood).

Firstly, by communicating in Haryanvi, or Jattu as many of us call it, does not mean that you are the only one who loves his/her culture. Any discussion is fruitful if it communicate well among the people. If it does not, then we land up in the discussion that is going on here. Manoj Rana has given a very good point about disussion going heywhile at some point or other if not moderated.

In the last Jat Picnic, I was trying to introduce the new members of the community, and trying to thank those who worked hard to make the function successful, using Bolchal Ki Bhasha Hindi and using some words of English, when one of our old folk interrupts, "Bhai Haryanvi Mein Bol" Well, I tried to make him happy to use some words of Haryanvi, when some members said that these kids who have been born and brought up don't understand the "Theth Haryanvi" and the Bolchal Ki Bhasha that was used was perfect for the setting. The question here is what is understood by the audiance that is what communication means. I am not a communication specialist, but I see my wise friends "most of them happen to be in IT industry which is the back bone of communication" are bashing Ekta for a very genuine point that she has raised. I may be a poor student of learning the language, but having spent most of my life with the people from Haryana, I myself have not been able to learn and understand "Theth Haryanvi" Language myself.

I am not scared or ashamed of using littlebit of Haryanvi Language myself including some "Jokes" of Tau or Katda if the setting is right and the audiance is able to understand what I am trying to convey, but to use it every time when the audiance/readers are as large as you see on internet, then using only Haryanvi or propogating it to that extent or identifying the use of Haryanvi with the love and hate of your own culture is some thing beyond my beliefs.

Let us grant Ekta that she did raise a good point and see her views in this light.




Ya bhi koe baat hooi bhai. Jatland se oos per theth na bolllenge te bihari bollenge. very strange and out of context. Ekta koon se ya?
 
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