Remembering Ch. Charan Singh.

[prashantacmet]

Originally posted by prashantacmet
mamma ke...gaal kona de rya..mere mamma bhi tomar (bijrol) hai............."



Mamma-Fuffi ke hokar bhi kolam-kola hon ko ho rahe....kya jamana aa gaya...arr wo bhi padhe-likhe samajhdaar.

Bhai Tugania, I am a die-hard supporter of chaudhary saahab. He was a pioneer in Indian politics for farmers and labourers and was a mass leader. but this guy seems to have a personal envy of chaudhary saahab. What a big deal if he did not take care of pathetic roads of Baghpat and did not set up some institutions , health centers. Is "Zamindara Abolition Act" not large enough to prove his greatness? but this guy is so adamant that he is completely neglecting all his deeds, humiliating whole farmer class of Baghpat. He even transcends all the barriers and keeping chaudhary saahab beside Lalu. Now what do you expect from me after all this ugly mess? "Dhed" ne "dhed" hi beendhya kare..issne nu na byara ek main isstai bhi bada "dhed" huin........

 

[upendersingh]

Bhai Prashant,
Thoda sa samajhne ki baat hai. Ye hamaare bhai jab desh chhodkar doosre desh mein jaate hain to inhe yaha ki bahut yaad aati hai. Abb agar inhe foreign mein rahna hai to fir apne desh mein kami nikaalni padegi jiss se ye foreign mein rahne ka koi bahana dhoondh sake. Yadi inhone aisa na kiya to fir ye waha nahi rah sakenge. Agar inhe apni jameen apne desh se pyar na ho to fir ye waha rahkar Jatland jaisi website kyon khojenge aur kyon unn par log in karenge| Baaki ye mere apne vichar hain, koi naraaz na ho.

 

[piush_tomar]

hahahaha....Now I can just laugh on you. I know laughing on others is violent and not a compassionate trait of human being but you are such a "dhed" that I cann't help you out. Eibb sunn...chaudhary saahab ne kuch na karya...na baghpat ke liye...naa iss desh ke kissano ke liye.......fer bhi wo hamamre liye "manniye" the , hain aur rahenge............tu bata ke poonchad paadega...eibb aapna raah naap............dekhya hi na intellectual..tere jisse ghane "dhed" haande .......hag ke utha kona jaata chaudhary saahab pe iljaam laan lagge.........

I think you are a idiot of Highest order..you not reply on what I mentioned:can you give me detail of any development work that these "manniye" leader did any thing for People of Baghpat. Please comment on education, health, employement, Industry, Infrastructure etc.. dont reply with out factual comment please and please dont proof that again n again..

 

[piush_tomar]

Bhai Prashant,
Thoda sa samajhne ki baat hai. Ye hamaare bhai jab desh chhodkar doosre desh mein jaate hain to inhe yaha ki bahut yaad aati hai. Abb agar inhe foreign mein rahna hai to fir apne desh mein kami nikaalni padegi jiss se ye foreign mein rahne ka koi bahana dhoondh sake. Yadi inhone aisa na kiya to fir ye waha nahi rah sakenge. Agar inhe apni jameen apne desh se pyar na ho to fir ye waha rahkar Jatland jaisi website kyon khojenge aur kyon unn par log in karenge| Baaki ye mere apne vichar hain, koi naraaz na ho.

Bhai Upender,

Mein tu aapo samajdar manta that yeh kya hua aapko: Can you give me factual comment on development of "Baghpat Lok sabha chetra".In Bapu Beta ne peechely 50 salon mein ek bhi koi rajgar ke sadhan, kisi ek bhi school me ek bhi eet lagwai ho to batao..is tara se you khali gal to weh becharey bhi laga rahe jo uskey 50 salon se gulam hey.Arrey Bihari bhi aap logon se akalband hey unhoney Lalu ko laat mar key development ki raha pakad li..kam se kam apney un Bhaio key barrey mein socho jinkey pass na jameen hey na naukri.

 

[piush_tomar]

Bhai Prashant,
Thoda sa samajhne ki baat hai. Ye hamaare bhai jab desh chhodkar doosre desh mein jaate hain to inhe yaha ki bahut yaad aati hai. Abb agar inhe foreign mein rahna hai to fir apne desh mein kami nikaalni padegi jiss se ye foreign mein rahne ka koi bahana dhoondh sake. Yadi inhone aisa na kiya to fir ye waha nahi rah sakenge. Agar inhe apni jameen apne desh se pyar na ho to fir ye waha rahkar Jatland jaisi website kyon khojenge aur kyon unn par log in karenge| Baaki ye mere apne vichar hain, koi naraaz na ho.

Bhai,
I take my word back for Chaudhry Charan Singh. I apologies for my comment only for Ch. Charan singh.
But still I want to know why Baghpat is so undeveloped when we compare it with other city like Noida, faridabad, ghaziabad,sonipat Delhi, Gurgaon.Kya waje hey sirf 20 KM per Jo log rehe rahe woh in Naukrio se, develoment,education se door hey.Uski waje yeh Neta hey Jinoheney yeh Logon ki mansikata hi badal di.App dono Bhai is par naraz ho gaye ke mainey kuch comment kiya..but even till this time both of you could'nt reply about "Baghpat Lok sabha chetra" development.. why ..I dont have any personnel grudge with these Leader but this is the realty.
Ajit singh a Computer engineer from IIT and 3 times cabinet minister who himself spent 10 yrs in US and don’t talk about Education, industry,infrasturcture development why..Because they deliberately turned jat community so undeveloped thinker in 50 years ke they cant listen single word against them. Why people dont get angry on above mentioned issues.

 

[prashantacmet]

Bhai,
I take my word back for Chaudhry Charan Singh. I apologies for my comment only for Ch. Charan singh.
But still I want to know why Baghpat is so undeveloped when we compare it with other city like Noida, faridabad, ghaziabad,sonipat Delhi, Gurgaon.Kya waje hey sirf 20 KM per Jo log rehe rahe woh in Naukrio se, develoment,education se door hey.Uski waje yeh Neta hey Jinoheney yeh Logon ki mansikata hi badal di.App dono Bhai is par naraz ho gaye ke mainey kuch comment kiya..but even till this time both of you could'nt reply about "Baghpat Lok sabha chetra" development.. why ..I dont have any personnel grudge with these Leader but this is the realty.
Ajit singh a Computer engineer from IIT and 3 times cabinet minister who himself spent 10 yrs in US and don’t talk about Education, industry,infrasturcture development why..Because they deliberately turned jat community so undeveloped thinker in 50 years ke they cant listen single word against them. Why people dont get angry on above mentioned issues.

you took ur words back...hahahhha....frustrated?...........do u think you had any other option?...u intellectual...don't mess with idiot of highest order...simjha.....na to dharti pakadni mushkil ho ja gi.......... I understand ur political propaganda very well. Just emphasize on ur reservation talk...and forget about baghpat........ ha sunn le intellectual tere jisse ka ke haal hua kare baghpat main wo tanne byara hoga....UK main baith ke hi neta paak rya hai........ristedaari bana raakhi hogi tai yashpal malik gailla..........

P.S: I don't oppose reservation for Jats.

 

[piush_tomar]

you took ur words back...hahahhha....frustrated?...........do u think you had any other option?...u intellectual...don't mess with idiot of highest order...simjha.....na to dharti pakadni mushkil ho ja gi.......... I understand ur political propaganda very well. Just emphasize on ur reservation talk...and forget about baghpat........ ha sunn le intellectual tere jisse ka ke haal hua kare baghpat main wo tanne byara hoga....UK main baith ke hi neta paak rya hai........ristedaari bana raakhi hogi tai yashpal malik gailla..........

P.S: I don't oppose reservation for Jats.

Prashant,

Dekh ab tak to tuney koi reply nahi bheja hey..kyoki kam buddhi ke aadmi tere pass koi jawab hi nahi hey..Please comment on Baghpat education, health, employement, Industry, Infrastructure development etc.. dont reply with out factual comment please and please dont proof that again n again you are the Idiot of Highest Order and I will request the Jat Lander admin kick this man out of here as this man is the real sinking un civilized breed of RLD..I would say the famous word “obnoxious breed” of Ajit singh kind of poltics ..

 

[bls31]

Ch, Charan Singh a contemporary of my father and was his friend. I remember his visiting our village Kasimpur in 1947 or so and addressing a huge meeting of Jats. Later as a student of Lucknow I had the privilege of listening to him during his visits .
I do wonder as to why we the Jats, have not been able to produce a leader of his caliber, his integrity, his principals and his sincerity and his total sway on Jats .

bls31

 

[prashantacmet]

Prashant,

Dekh ab tak to tuney koi reply nahi bheja hey..kyoki kam buddhi ke aadmi tere pass koi jawab hi nahi hey..Please comment on Baghpat education, health, employement, Industry, Infrastructure development etc.. dont reply with out factual comment please and please dont proof that again n again you are the Idiot of Highest Order and I will request the Jat Lander admin kick this man out of here as this man is the real sinking un civilized breed of RLD..I would say the famous word “obnoxious breed” of Ajit singh kind of poltics ..

Still you did not get the reply? I don't have the word for you now. "Intellectual moron" does not suit on u anymore....hahahaha............

 

[upendersingh]

Bhai Upender,

Mein tu aapo samajdar manta that yeh kya hua aapko: Can you give me factual comment on development of "Baghpat Lok sabha chetra".In Bapu Beta ne peechely 50 salon mein ek bhi koi rajgar ke sadhan, kisi ek bhi school me ek bhi eet lagwai ho to batao..is tara se you khali gal to weh becharey bhi laga rahe jo uskey 50 salon se gulam hey.Arrey Bihari bhi aap logon se akalband hey unhoney Lalu ko laat mar key development ki raha pakad li..kam se kam apney un Bhaio key barrey mein socho jinkey pass na jameen hey na naukri.

Tomar Ji,
Aap factual discussion mein believe karte hain. Bahut achchhi baat hai. Ab aap mere ko batao ki Baghpat ki badhaali ke aapke paas kya fact hai. Waha ke log Bihariyo ki tarah palayan kar rahe hain? Waha ke kisaan suicide kar rahe hain? Waha log bhookh se mar rahe hain? Aapko aisa kyon lagta hai ki waha ke 'poor sugarcane farmer' gulaam hai. Ho sakta hai jisse aap tarakki samajh rahe ho usse wo poor farmer tarakki na samajhte ho. Maine gaam mein baat ki aur mujhe pata chala ki jab Ajit Singh udyog mantri the to ussne West U.P. mein udyog lagaane ki baat ki thi, lekin yaha ke kisaano ne milkar usse aisa karne se mana kar diya tha ye kahte hue ki tu hame gaamo se nikalwana chahta hai. Ch. Charan Singh ke samay globalization nahi tha, jyada industries lagne ki gunjaish nahi thi.
Tomar Ji, Punjab jaise state mein kisaano ne suicide ki, lekin Baghpat ke gulaam kisaano ne suicide nahi ki. Maine to jindagi mein pahli baar kisi ke mooh se suna hai ki West U.P. mein badhaali hai. Nahi to maine to graduation ki Economics ki book mein yahi padha ki yadi India mein sabse jyada achchhi kheti kahi hoti hai to we Punjab, Haryana aur Western U. P. hai. Maine to akhbaaro mein yahi padha ki yadi poore U. P. mein 100 Rs. revenue ikattha hota hai to ussme se 80% Western U. P. se aata hai. Maine to yahi padha ki Western U. P. India ka leading sugarcane producing region hai, jaha se desh ki 25% cheeni aati hai. Yaha crime rate high hai to wo bhukhmari ki wajah se kam aur jato waale guroor ki wajah se jyada hai. Western U. P. ke adhiktar criminal aise hote hai, jinke paas karodo ki property hoti hai.
Tomar Ji, Western U. P. ek aisi jagah hai, jaha ke logo mein iss duniya ka koi bhi aadmi kami nahi nikaal sakta. Na yaha baadh aati, na bhookamp, na hi sookha. Aap baar-baar yaha ke mehnatkash kisaano ko gulaam kah rahe ho, isske liye aapke paas kya facts hai? Wo kiske gulaam hai? We apni jameen par shaan se kheti kar rahe hai. jin ke paas jameen kam rah gayi hai wo central U. P. mein jameen le le rahe hai. West U. P. mein 2-3 lac Rs. bigha jameen hai. Yadi kisi ke bhi paas 5 bigha bhi jameen hai to central or east U. P. mein 15-20 bigha jameen aa jaati hai. Main to hairaan hoon ki Tomar Ji aap aisi baat kaise kar rahe ho. Ek taraf aap kah rahe ho ki Baghpat Delhi se 20 K. M. door hai. Aise mein waha ke logo ko medical jaisi samasya kaise ho sakti hai. Chhoti-moti bimaariyo ke liye local docters hai, badi bimaariyo ke liye Delhi ke hospital hai. Padhai ki bhi koi aisi samasya nahi honi chahiye. Pata nahi kis aadhaar par aap ye sab baate kah rahe hain.
Tomar Ji, aap mere bhai ho aur ham baat karte rahenge, lekin jis desh mein aap rojgaar kama rahe ho, usske haalaat aur usski samasyao par bhi aapka dhyan jana chahiye. Dekho waha kuchh maheene pahle kaisi tabahi machi thi.
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[piush_tomar]

Tomar Ji,
Aap factual discussion mein believe karte hain. Bahut achchhi baat hai. Ab aap mere ko batao ki Baghpat ki badhaali ke aapke paas kya fact hai. Waha ke log Bihariyo ki tarah palayan kar rahe hain? Waha ke kisaan suicide kar rahe hain? Waha log bhookh se mar rahe hain? Aapko aisa kyon lagta hai ki waha ke 'poor sugarcane farmer' gulaam hai. Ho sakta hai jisse aap tarakki samajh rahe ho usse wo poor farmer tarakki na samajhte ho. Maine gaam mein baat ki aur mujhe pata chala ki jab Ajit Singh udyog mantri the to ussne West U.P. mein udyog lagaane ki baat ki thi, lekin yaha ke kisaano ne milkar usse aisa karne se mana kar diya tha ye kahte hue ki tu hame gaamo se nikalwana chahta hai. Ch. Charan Singh ke samay globalization nahi tha, jyada industries lagne ki gunjaish nahi thi.
Tomar Ji, Punjab jaise state mein kisaano ne suicide ki, lekin Baghpat ke gulaam kisaano ne suicide nahi ki. Maine to jindagi mein pahli baar kisi ke mooh se suna hai ki West U.P. mein badhaali hai. Nahi to maine to graduation ki Economics ki book mein yahi padha ki yadi India mein sabse jyada achchhi kheti kahi hoti hai to we Punjab, Haryana aur Western U. P. hai. Maine to akhbaaro mein yahi padha ki yadi poore U. P. mein 100 Rs. revenue ikattha hota hai to ussme se 80% Western U. P. se aata hai. Maine to yahi padha ki Western U. P. India ka leading sugarcane producing region hai, jaha se desh ki 25% cheeni aati hai. Yaha crime rate high hai to wo bhukhmari ki wajah se kam aur jato waale guroor ki wajah se jyada hai. Western U. P. ke adhiktar criminal aise hote hai, jinke paas karodo ki property hoti hai.
Tomar Ji, Western U. P. ek aisi jagah hai, jaha ke logo mein iss duniya ka koi bhi aadmi kami nahi nikaal sakta. Na yaha baadh aati, na bhookamp, na hi sookha. Aap baar-baar yaha ke mehnatkash kisaano ko gulaam kah rahe ho, isske liye aapke paas kya facts hai? Wo kiske gulaam hai? We apni jameen par shaan se kheti kar rahe hai. jin ke paas jameen kam rah gayi hai wo central U. P. mein jameen le le rahe hai. West U. P. mein 2-3 lac Rs. bigha jameen hai. Yadi kisi ke bhi paas 5 bigha bhi jameen hai to central or east U. P. mein 15-20 bigha jameen aa jaati hai. Main to hairaan hoon ki Tomar Ji aap aisi baat kaise kar rahe ho. Ek taraf aap kah rahe ho ki Baghpat Delhi se 20 K. M. door hai. Aise mein waha ke logo ko medical jaisi samasya kaise ho sakti hai. Chhoti-moti bimaariyo ke liye local docters hai, badi bimaariyo ke liye Delhi ke hospital hai. Padhai ki bhi koi aisi samasya nahi honi chahiye. Pata nahi kis aadhaar par aap ye sab baate kah rahe hain.
Tomar Ji, aap mere bhai ho aur ham baat karte rahenge, lekin jis desh mein aap rojgaar kama rahe ho, usske haalaat aur usski samasyao par bhi aapka dhyan jana chahiye. Dekho waha kuchh maheene pahle kaisi tabahi machi thi.
Link ; Flood in UK
http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2009/11/20/in_depth_world/photoessay5723429.shtml?tag=page

Bhai Upendra,
As you replied here Jat is made for only agriculture work. Uski jameen agar kam ho gayee hey to wo poorab mein ja karkey 5 ke badle 15 beeghe jameen khareed le par Rahe kisan who apney baccho ko badiya English school men na padaye, acchi health ke barrey mein sochey bas Kheti mein laga rahe.
Now as you mentioned here Jat opposed ch. Ajit singh for not to do industrilisation in Baghpat area. Can any body here on Jat land belive on this at one side people are coming for Jobs in Ghaziabad, Noida, Faridabad,gurgaon, delhi and on other side people will oppose it.Being educated person How could you reply like this.
Bhai Tugania, you look die hard supporter of ajit singh. Give me the current number of student at ” Jat Inter college baraut” and also do let me know how many student were there before 10 years. You cant give me this answer because being in UK I am still on Jameen but you guys still closing your eyes from the facts.
You are saying if a person living in KishanPur biral and got some serious health problem he should walk to delhi which is 60 KM far from delhi. Be practical Tugania, Yeh sab hamarey hi bhai behen jo waha rehe rahe hey kam se kam inkey barey mein socho.